Teacher Fired Over Blog

Simply Fated · June 2012

Just some minor thoughts....
When I was in second grade, I found out that my teachers said something bad about me behind my back and at least one other student overheard. I was really hurt and I'm still angry about what they said. Not that they said it, but what was actually said.
That's not to say that teachers shouldn't be able to talk about their students ever. Vent away in the teachers lounge or what ever.
I just think this particular teacher crossed a line she shouldn't have.

The thing is, she publicly said bad things about her employers and co-worker AND the people she works for.... and not in a constructive way. In any line of work she should expect to be dismissed.

specialk84 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : <strong>Well and teachers SHOULD be able to vent. That's what friends and/or SO's are for. <em>Not the internet.</em></strong><em> </em> I'm not mad that she vented. I'm mad that her venting was continuous whining and complaining about her students in a very vulgar manner while she didn't even TRY to do anything to change it or inspire them. <strong> Not to mention, she put that constant b!tching on the INTERNET. WITH A PHOTO OF HERSELF</strong>. Stupid teacher of the year award. She deserved to get fired and should be replaced by a teacher who understands that teenagers do suck at times, but still wants to go to work every day.
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

<div>Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't you vented about your job here? Does it not count as the internet because you think you're talking only to people who you "know"? Do you forget that other people read these boards?</div><div>
</div><div>You were accused of giving out too much detail regarding your school's recent issues. Other regs, people you know, called you out on it. How is what you did any different than what she did?</div>

whitsy · June 2012

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[QUOTE]<strong>It's important that students have teachers that believe in them.</strong> Now that her feeling about some students' laziness has been made public, I think it will definitely make her a less effective teacher and that the administration had every right to fire her.
Posted by andrea2473[/QUOTE]

<div>Very true. </div>

chelseamb11 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't you vented about your job here? Does it not count as the internet because you think you're talking only to people who you "know"? Do you forget that other people read these boards? You were accused of giving out too much detail regarding your school's recent issues. Other regs, people you know, called you out on it. How is what you did any different than what she did?
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]

Because I didn't make a blog devoted to the whining. Yeah I could be tied to what I said, you're right, but the venting I've done is nothing compared to what she has done/said. And I've never degraded my students by calling them names either like she did.

ETA not to mention, I also did stop after being called out for it.

andrea2473 · June 2012

I just think if you are that disgruntled at your job, you have more options than just blogging about it on the internet. a) quit your job. b) make huge attempts to fix the current issues at your job and make it a more positive environment. c) get a damn journal and vent privately d) go to friends and family and talk it through with them e) seek counseling (either for personal or career issues). Why must we be so AWish and run to the internet for validation? Put negative ish on the internet and it might eventually have repercussions.

While I do think Chelsea puts herself at risk with her school's administration, my main concern with the blogger is her talking about her students. I've never seen Chelsea do that. And if she does get fired for what she talks about on TK, I don't think she'd expect anyone here to coddle her about it. I'd like to think she'd own up to her errors rather than run to the media about what a victim she is.

mizutamababy · June 2012

I have a personal blog and I often vent about work. I'm also a teacher. My venting about work on my personal blog has nothing to do with work performance. Why vent? Because I have nowhere else to vent, really, and some of the problems I've encountered are illegal on the side of the schools I've worked for and some of the behavior of the students is downright appalling. Can't really blab to co-workers because you don't know who's going spill the beans back to the principals, etc. and talking about school-related issues with friends/family that don't work in that industry can be difficult since it often requires a lengthy backstory. But many of these issues aren't ones that should be hidden or not discussed.

I don't think there's any crime in venting, but people should be careful about where they post and who sees. Friending co-workers on FB and venting about work is always a gamble. You can get around that by using filters, though. I usually friends-lock the work vent entries on my personal blog so they're not visible to the public but only to fellow friends and people in the same industry (but not at my place of employment or anywhere near it). I'm also vague with details and never post pictures.

It sounds like this teacher took things too far, attacked certain students over frustration over issues with certain student behavior, and should have been more careful about how public to make her entries.

JessAndTrav · June 2012

Only once on my blog I have ever mentioned something about a student, but it wasn't bashing them, I just couldn't believe that they were complaining about a simple assignment.

This is what was written:

"-In theatre design, when designing a draft for a set, there's a standard handwriting you're supposed to use. It's all capital letters, and you're supposed to keep the letters at the same height and width as the other letters. We're between shows at the moment, so I opted to teach my students a little about drafting and theatre.

The assignment? Write your ABC's and the numbers 0-9 in the correct handwriting. The next assignment? Copy an excerpt of As You Like It. Simple enough, right? I mean, after all, it's COPYING and/or writing down your ABC's and numbers. It's no real thought process needed to complete the assignment.

You would have thought that I asked them to copy the entire dictionary whilst solving algebraic equations.

When I was in high school, if my teacher offered this assignment I would have been all over such a simple assignment.

I had a student tell me that writing in all capital letters would mess up their grammar.

Um, sure?"

I can't imagine anyone getting offended over that, TBH.

andrea2473 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]I have a personal blog and I often vent about work. I'm also a teacher. My venting about work on my personal blog has nothing to do with work performance. Why vent? Because I have nowhere else to vent, really, and some of the problems I've encountered are illegal on the side of the schools I've worked for and some of the behavior of the students is downright appalling. Can't really blab to co-workers because you don't know who's going spill the beans back to the principals, etc. and talking about school-related issues with friends/family that don't work in that industry can be difficult since it often requires a lengthy backstory. But many of these issues aren't ones that should be hidden or not discussed. I don't think there's any crime in venting, but people should be careful about where they post and who sees. Friending co-workers on FB and venting about work is always a gamble. You can get around that by using filters, though. I usually friends-lock the work vent entries on my personal blog so they're not visible to the public but only to fellow friends and people in the same industry (but not at my place of employment or anywhere near it). I'm also vague with details and never post pictures. It sounds like this teacher took things too far, attacked certain students over frustration over issues with certain student behavior, and should have been more careful about how public to make her entries.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

But why blog? Just keep a journal. Or if you prefer to type, then a Word document. Why does it HAVE to be public?

mizutamababy · June 2012

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[QUOTE]It's important that students have teachers that believe in them. Now that her feeling about some students' laziness has been made public, I think it will definitely make her a less effective teacher and that the administration had every right to fire her.
Posted by andrea2473[/QUOTE]

I agree with this to a certain extent... But I also think society expects teachers to coddle their students beyond their limits and that attitude's not really helping.

Often times when I get difficult students who are unsuccessful, it isn't because I never believed in them or tried to work with them; it's because they couldn't try do any better for themselves. Education is a privilege, not a right. I think somewhere along the line many students and parents have forgotten this and have very unreal expectations.

JessAndTrav · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : I agree with this to a certain extent... But I also think society expects teachers to coddle their students beyond their limits and that attitude's not really helping. <strong>Often times when I get difficult students who are unsuccessful, it isn't because I never believed in them or tried to work with them; it's because they couldn't try do any better for themselves. </strong>Education is a privilege, not a right. I think somewhere along the line many students and parents have forgotten this and have very unreal expectations.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

<div>This exactly. A lot of the parents expect us (the teachers) to do ALL of the work and don't encourage their kids to get it together.</div><div>
</div><div>That's my POV as a HS teacher.</div>

mizutamababy · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : But why blog? Just keep a journal. Or if you prefer to type, then a Word document. Why does it HAVE to be public?
Posted by andrea2473[/QUOTE]

Don't misunderstand, my blog is like a personal journal online and is not for the sole purpose of venting about work. I mostly write about my daily life whether good or bad like a diary. I keep it public so friends back home can keep up with my life while I'm overseas and vice versa, as well as meet other people. Only people I've friended can see the work vent entries, and many of these people are teachers or people who wish to become teachers if they are not my personal friends. Sometimes they even offer good insight into the issue, or we can exchange teaching methods and material.

If I were to write about these issues in a paper journal... for me, it would be nothing different than keeping those feelings inside without being able to tell someone. I also like the clean look of writing online. Now would I post about direct issues on a public forum like TK? Probably not unless it related to the topic at hand and was done in very vague wording.

andrea2473 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : I agree with this to a certain extent... But I also think society expects teachers to coddle their students beyond their limits and that attitude's not really helping. Often times when I get difficult students who are unsuccessful, it isn't because I never believed in them or tried to work with them; it's because they couldn't try do any better for themselves. Education is a privilege, not a right. I think somewhere along the line many students and parents have forgotten this and have very unreal expectations.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

I understand, but I think you are talking in extremes here. Name calling and ridiculing with phrases like "lazy" is not the only alternative to coddling. For what it's worth, I could never be an educator. I have zero patience and I'm honestly just not very good at teaching people things. I don't know what it's like in the classroom as the person in charge of several students, some of which have no interest to learn. Some without the aptitude to learn what you are trying to teach. I'm SURE it is frustrating, coupled with the lack of benefits and recognition. I still think it's not right to post your frustrations on a public forum. Like I stated above, there are several other ways to deal with it. But if you do it, you should be willing to face the consequences. No administrator (or boss in general) wants a potentially insubordinate employee and not student wants a teacher that they don't trust. It's pretty simple to me.

SpartanCat · June 2012

I disgree with the part that adults should be held to a higher standard. Why can't kids be held accountable for what they say? When they legally become an adult at 18, are they suddenly more mature then they were the day before when they were 17? Any kid brought up being taught to respect one's elders and those around them should most definitely know better by the time they're in high school. Reinforcing the fact that they're immature and can't control what they say or type is not teaching them to be mature. It's telling them they have a free pass to do and say what they want and that's a tough mindset to get out of when they do become adults.

Edit- I did not read the link so I do not know what age she was teaching. This is a general complaint.

Simply Fated · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : But why blog? Just keep a journal. Or if you prefer to type, then a Word document. Why does it HAVE to be public?
Posted by andrea2473[/QUOTE]
This X 10.

@JessAndTrav I wish you had been my teacher! I was never told that everything had to be in all caps, so I had to redo my entire design because when I went to erase the writing, the erasing smudged on the paper and it looked messy.

SpartanCat · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:ab158743-c6c2-4f42-9ec0-97068a996cf0">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE] I don't think there's any crime in venting, but people should be careful about where they post and who sees. Friending co-workers on FB and venting about work is always a gamble. You can get around that by using filters, though. I usually friends-lock the work vent entries on my personal blog so they're not visible to the public but only to fellow friends and people in the same industry (but not at my place of employment or anywhere near it).
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>This is dangerous too though. When I was in college, my RA started out cool and a bunch of us on the floor friended her. About halfway through the year, she posted a board in the hallway about being careful about what you put on facebook because you don't know who can see it. She proceeded to print out and hang pictures of a bunch of the students that lived on the floor drinking and doing other possibly illegal activities. I was over 21 at the time so it didn't bother me too much but the fact she did it was upsetting. The majority of the people whos pictures were printed had their settings so only friends could see tagged photos. If someone's in your circle that decides to comment, use your photo in some way, etc., there's still nothing you can do about it.

</div>

andrea2473 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : This is dangerous too though. When I was in college, my RA started out cool and a bunch of us on the floor friended her. About halfway through the year, she posted a board in the hallway about being careful about what you put on facebook because you don't know who can see it. She proceeded to print out and hang pictures of a bunch of the students that lived on the floor drinking and doing other possibly illegal activities. I was over 21 at the time so it didn't bother me too much but the fact she did it was upsetting. The majority of the people whos pictures were printed had their settings so only friends could see tagged photos. If someone's in your circle that decides to comment, use your photo in some way, etc., there's still nothing you can do about it.
Posted by SpartanCat[/QUOTE]

Did anyone report her? I find it incredibly questionable that she did that while she was supposed to be the mentor on your floor. There are other ways to make a point with humiliating people.

JessAndTrav · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : @JessAndTrav I wish you had been my teacher! I was never told that everything had to be in all caps, so I had to redo my entire design because when I went to erase the writing, the erasing smudged on the paper and it looked messy.
Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

<div>Well, I am awesome. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" /></div>

ArynBaker · June 2012

N is going to wake up any minute so this is a P&R and probably doesn't relate to the current discussion but you would think an English teacher would know enough words to express frustration without so much profanity.

SpartanCat · June 2012

She had a meeting with the higher ups, came back and ripped it down. Didn't really speak to any of use for the next 4 months or so. I don't know if she was disciplined or not.

mizutamababy · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:eb928883-c1f0-4986-9a1d-3f6e7ca134d9">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : I understand, but I think you are talking in extremes here. Name calling and ridiculing with phrases like "lazy" is not the only alternative to coddling. For what it's worth, I could never be an educator. I have zero patience and I'm honestly just not very good at teaching people things. I don't know what it's like in the classroom as the person in charge of several students, some of which have no interest to learn. Some without the aptitude to learn what you are trying to teach. I'm SURE it is frustrating, coupled with the lack of benefits and recognition. I still think it's not right to post your frustrations on a public forum. Like I stated above, there are several other ways to deal with it. But if you do it, you should be willing to face the consequences. No administrator (or boss in general) wants a potentially insubordinate employee and not student wants a teacher that they don't trust. It's pretty simple to me.
Posted by andrea2473[/QUOTE]

I didn't say I thought this teacher in particular was justified. I already posted that it was not good for her to attack her students on the internet, and she should have vented about the issues overall instead of naming names.

BAD: Jane is one of the dumbest students in my class; she never does her homework and always sleeps and therefore it's no surprise she doesn't know the answer. Her head is probably full of nothing but air from all the hairspray she uses to style her do. Maybe if she spent as much time studying as she did getting ready in the morning she'd be passing. But hey, what can I expect? Tucker High School is one of the lowest ranking schools in the whole GISD district.

ACCEPTABLE: The weather's been really hot lately, and without any AC in the school there's been a real decline in student motivation and concentration during class. There are a couple of classes this year where every lesson feels like pulling teeth, but I'm trying hard to get through them until summer break and I have a little more time to relax and rethink my approach. I've already tried talking to the HRT of one of the problem classes but it's not doing much good.

I do think there are lazy students, though. I also don't think it's OK to ignore that and not point it out. I have no problem telling my students when I know they can do better and they've been slacking. Sometimes this opens up dialogue for them to tell me if anything out of the ordinary is going on that might be affecting their work. There is an old saying tbat goes something like love is sometimes best communicated through fair discipline. I would say this is pretty accurate as relates to teaching and overall, when working with children.

andrea2473 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]She had a meeting with the higher ups, came back and ripped it down. Didn't really speak to any of use for the next 4 months or so. I don't know if she was disciplined or not.
Posted by SpartanCat[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh.... sounds like she probably got a bit of a talking to. While she didn't do anything illegal, she definitely violated your trust. I see where she was going with her point, but it sounds like her execution was very flawed. I hope she learned a lesson about crossing lines.

mizutamababy · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:e287450f-e230-4c60-a2b6-e739f0522931">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : This is dangerous too though. When I was in college, my RA started out cool and a bunch of us on the floor friended her. About halfway through the year, she posted a board in the hallway about being careful about what you put on facebook because you don't know who can see it. She proceeded to print out and hang pictures of a bunch of the students that lived on the floor drinking and doing other possibly illegal activities. I was over 21 at the time so it didn't bother me too much but the fact she did it was upsetting. The majority of the people whos pictures were printed had their settings so only friends could see tagged photos. If someone's in your circle that decides to comment, use your photo in some way, etc., there's still nothing you can do about it.
Posted by SpartanCat[/QUOTE]

I did mention in my original post that posting anything on FB is a gamble. You can try to make the odds better by making friends list filters, but nothing is 100%.

Pretty crappy of the RA to do, but this could have possibly been avoided if they had used the friends list filter. Personally I would never post something like that for anyone with any kind of authority over me to see.

SpartanCat · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:fb7814bd-c8ca-4765-91f1-f736b690697e">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : Ahhhh.... sounds like she probably got a bit of a talking to. While she didn't do anything illegal, she definitely violated your trust. I see where she was going with her point, but it sounds like her execution was very flawed. I hope she learned a lesson about crossing lines.
Posted by andrea2473[/QUOTE]

<div>I agree. It was a totally valid point that I complete agree with. BUT she did it to people she had friended AND we lived on the first floor of the dorm that people actually used to get from one building in that dorm complex to another. If it had been random people she didn't know and was able to get the pictures, that would be a completely different story because they posted them truly publically. Even that doesn't seem right to me though.</div>

andrea2473 · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:eff04b03-7cfd-4af8-bddc-9ba2a489016d">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : I didn't say I thought this teacher in particular was justified. I already posted that it was not good for her to attack her students on the internet, and she should have vented about the issues overall instead of naming names. BAD: Jane is one of the dumbest students in my class; she never does her homework and always sleeps and therefore it's no surprise she doesn't know the answer. Her head is probably full of nothing but air from all the hairspray she uses to style her do. Maybe if she spent as much time studying as she did getting ready in the morning she'd be passing. But hey, what can I expect? Tucker High School is one of the lowest ranking schools in the whole GISD district. ACCEPTABLE: The weather's been really hot lately, and without any AC in the school there's been a real decline in student motivation and concentration during class. There are a couple of classes this year where every lesson feels like pulling teeth, but I'm trying hard to get through them until summer break and I have a little more time to relax and rethink my approach. I've already tried talking to the HRT of one of the problem classes but it's not doing much good. I do think there are lazy students, though. I also don't think it's OK to ignore that and not point it out. I have no problem telling my students when I know they can do better and they've been slacking. Sometimes this opens up dialogue for them to tell me if anything out of the ordinary is going on that might be affecting their work. There is an old saying tbat goes something like love is sometimes best communicated through fair discipline. I would say this is pretty accurate as relates to teaching and overall, when working with children.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

I completely agree with your last paragraph. As long as you are taking a direct approach. Not posting it passive-aggresively in a blog. I'm not even sure I completely agree with your 'good' approach unless you are 100% anonymous and speaking to teachers on a forum. None of which who know you. But only if you want to have a vague discussion. I still think a journal would be best.

SpartanCat · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:4a219dd2-b5c8-461f-a28a-17f02a2ed77c">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : I did mention in my original post that posting anything on FB is a gamble. You can try to make the odds better by making friends list filters, but nothing is 100%. Pretty crappy of the RA to do, but this could have possibly been avoided if they had used the friends list filter. Personally I would never post something like that for anyone with any kind of authority over me to see.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]

<div>I don't know if you could block certain people at that time, it was a number of years ago. I know I had mine set to friends only. Since then up to now, no one but me can see tagged photos. I also turn down any check ins and photo tags. I actually hate how public facebook is now but I don't have any other way of staying in contact with many of my friends and family.</div>

andrea2473 · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:ddd3e7b9-4bc4-4a29-ab2d-30f8a7573971">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : I agree. It was a totally valid point that I complete agree with. BUT she did it to people she had friended AND we lived on the first floor of the dorm that people actually used to get from one building in that dorm complex to another. If it had been random people she didn't know and was able to get the pictures, that would be a completely different story because they posted them truly publically. Even that doesn't seem right to me though.
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Maybe her point was, "you can't even necessarily trust your "friends" on FB"? But still, why would she burn that bridge for herself? Very dumb. I can't believe she posted them so publicly. She could have gone about this in SO many ways. Eek.

SpartanCat · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:1171ea62-cc7c-4220-89b5-055ba7273c37">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : Maybe her point was, "you can't even necessarily trust your "friends" on FB"? But still, why would she burn that bridge for herself? Very dumb. I can't believe she posted them so publicly. She could have gone about this in SO many ways. Eek.
Posted by andrea2473[/QUOTE]

<div>I'm just going to assume she had good intentions but did not think it through.</div>

whitsy · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_teacher-fired-over-blog?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8be47363-fa54-4918-bfd6-d3355d58da6dPost:eff04b03-7cfd-4af8-bddc-9ba2a489016d">Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teacher Fired Over Blog : I didn't say I thought this teacher in particular was justified. I already posted that it was not good for her to attack her students on the internet, and she should have vented about the issues overall instead of naming names. BAD: Jane is one of the dumbest students in my class; she never does her homework and always sleeps and therefore it's no surprise she doesn't know the answer. Her head is probably full of nothing but air from all the hairspray she uses to style her do. Maybe if she spent as much time studying as she did getting ready in the morning she'd be passing. But hey, what can I expect? Tucker High School is one of the lowest ranking schools in the whole GISD district. ACCEPTABLE: The weather's been really hot lately, and without any AC in the school there's been a real decline in student motivation and concentration during class. There are a couple of classes this year where every lesson feels like pulling teeth, but I'm trying hard to get through them until summer break and I have a little more time to relax and rethink my approach. I've already tried talking to the HRT of one of the problem classes but it's not doing much good. I do think there are lazy students, though. I also don't think it's OK to ignore that and not point it out. I have no problem telling my students when I know they can do better and they've been slacking. Sometimes this opens up dialogue for them to tell me if anything out of the ordinary is going on that might be affecting their work. There is an old saying tbat goes something like love is sometimes best communicated through fair discipline. I would say this is pretty accurate as relates to teaching and overall, when working with children.
Posted by mizutamababy[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>I mean, I get your point with the "Acceptable" paragraph, but I still get pretty nervous posting any vents about school or students. I may have here before, I'm really not sure, but the one instance I specifically remember I used an AE. </div><div>
</div><div>AS for your last paragraph, yes definitely. I don't have a problem saying to a student, who I know is capable of more, "You're being lazy here not capitalizing your I and you can do better than that." I'm probably gonna get sued one day haha.

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pkontk · June 2012

In the case of the RA, I'd almost think it would have been smarter of her to do that to those she was NOT fb friends with. I'm an advisor for a sorority and we always tell the women to keep drinking photos off facebook, or at least keep their profiles completely private. And I've definitely searched for some of their names just to see what I can see - better I find a drinking picture than someone from headquarters.

amorg334 · June 2012

This happened in my neighboring school district and the girl did write some really rude posts about students and cursing about them and other teachers that she worked with. She removed the posts that actually got in her trouble at the school. It was really disrespectful what she did and as a teacher you need to take the bad with the good. The internet is not private and if you need to vent speak to friends or write it in a journal. Not on the internet for your co workers or students to find. It was students who the found the blog and the students knew which people this woman was speaking about

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