Sexist wedding traditions and intelligent brides

VegasCalling · February 2012

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[QUOTE]I'm still wondering if you wear an engagement ring. And if you do if your FI does, too.
Posted by LauraChristin[/QUOTE]

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</div><div>To answer that question that has been posed several times: I used a small diamond that I just happened to have from an old piece of jewelry *I* already owned and purchased <em>myself</em> years ago. It's .50 F VVS2 Old European Cut. I gave it to my fiance about 2 years into the relationship as we both felt we were headed this way, and this way he could still propose someday in the future with an element of surprise, which was important to him. Fiance had it placed 1.5 years later in a correspondingly reasonable setting. I wanted an engagement ring because I wanted to "fit in" and I happen to love jewelry and all kinds of precious or semi-precious stones. I got my fiance an nice engagement watch after he proposed, as he doesn't really like any other kind of jewelry. </div>

LauraChristin · February 2012

I appreciate your honesty on that. This was one of those things that I was on the fence about - wearing an engagement ring - I love jewelry too but didn't like the idea that I was "taken" socially at the point of engagement but my husband was socially "single" until marriage in terms of displaying it via rings. I did end up wearing my blingy "engagement" ring about two weeks before the wedding because I got sick of waiting and wanted to share it with family coming from OOT. I did give a lot of thought to the traditions that date back to times when women were treated more like property. I kept those that I feel have evolved into something meaningful in today's context for myself or my family.

artbyallie · February 2012

So then why is it okay for you to wear an e-ring (where no one would know <em>you</em> bought the diamond until you tell them--which I get the impression you might actually do) and "fit in" with society but it's not okay for me to follow the societal tradition of walking down the aisle with my dad?<div>
</div><div>Seriously, Vegas, if you truly don't see how you're being abrasive and rude in your manner of posting, I question your social intelligence. Many posters on TK can be quite blunt in their responses, myself included, but you go far beyond that. I mean, you're offending even the people who agree with some of your principles. Instead of simply explaining your position, you make ad hominem attacks on everyone and anyone who doesn't share it wholeheartedly.</div><div>
</div><div>This one stands out as particularly egregious:</div><div>[QUOTE]<span style="background-color:#ffffff;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;">If all women in history were were like you and too damn wimpy to have a strong, unyielding WAR CRY on the issue of women's rights and gender-based injustice, then we'd still be in the piss-poor state women were in back in the 40s and 50s. I don't want wimps and fakes identifying with me anyway. Don't worry, we'll still fight the fight and keep winning battles in the war for all of you lazy ovaries.[/QUOTE]</span></div>

VegasCalling · February 2012

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[QUOTE]So then why is it okay for you to wear an e-ring (where no one would know you bought the diamond until you tell them--which I get the impression you might actually do) and "fit in" with society but it's not okay for me to follow the societal tradition of walking down the aisle with my dad? Seriously, Vegas, if you truly don't see how you're being abrasive and rude in your manner of posting, I question your social intelligence. Many posters on TK can be quite blunt in their responses, myself included, but you go far beyond that. I mean, you're offending even the people who agree with some of your principles. Instead of simply explaining your position, you make ad hominem attacks on everyone and anyone who doesn't share it wholeheartedly. This one stands out as particularly egregious:
Posted by artbyallie[/QUOTE]

<div>Have you even read any of my posts on the first 2 pages? It's like you have selective reading or something. If you had, you would see on one of the first pages that *I* have actually decided, after much ambivalence, to have *my* Dad walk me down the aisle, albeit without any words of "exchange" of any type happening once we're at the front. I never said you should or should not do anything. I posted asking about people's feelings regarding sexist wedding traditions and questioning why intelligent people would continue to engage in them. If you think that's rude, I think you are too sensitive. </div><div>I still disagree with your opinion that my posting style is rude etc. etc., and you cited one of the few where I pulled out the claws, but whatever. </div>

Gabrielle76 · February 2012

At this point, I'm confused. If I say something I think isn't rude, and then half a dozen people tell me I do, in fact, sound rude, I wouldn't keep screaming that I'm not rude, and they're all wrong. Do you think it's even a little possible that the way you're expressing yourself is abrasive?

Also, I wanted to note that being intelligent doesn't necessarily mean someone will be a feminist, or support women's issues in any way. Logical, informed people will come to different conclusions about the world. Even people within the feminist community will take very different stances on what issues are important. You have come to the conclusion that it's important to think about and consider sexism in things like weddings. I see that as more or less negligible and focus on body image issues, and how women are portrayed in the media. Redheadfsu talked earlier about her work with battered women. This thread contains many intelligent, informed feminists. Most of the women sound feminist, even if they don't want the title (because it dose have some nasty associations), you're the only one who seems to feel like anyone is attacking anyone.

VegasCalling · February 2012

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[QUOTE]At this point, I'm confused. If I say something I think isn't rude, and then half a dozen people tell me I do, in fact, sound rude, I wouldn't keep screaming that I'm not rude, and they're all wrong. Do you think it's even a little possible that the way you're expressing yourself is abrasive? Also, I wanted to note that being intelligent doesn't necessarily mean someone will be a feminist, or support women's issues in any way. Logical, informed people will come to different conclusions about the world. Even people within the feminist community will take very different stances on what issues are important. You have come to the conclusion that it's important to think about and consider sexism in things like weddings. I see that as more or less negligible and focus on body image issues, and how women are portrayed in the media. Redheadfsu talked earlier about her work with battered women. This thread contains many intelligent, informed feminists. Most of the women sound feminist, even if they don't want the title (because it dose have some nasty associations), you're the only one who seems to feel like anyone is attacking anyone.
Posted by Gabrielle76[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>All I want to do now is just roll my eyes. </div><div>The Knot community is notorious for being rude, and most of the women here come across as seriously bitter and quick to jump down people's throats. I will never agree that I'm the one who started off or continued being rude or that *I'm* the problem. The Knot members established their reputation long before I ever showed up.
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artbyallie · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sexist wedding traditions and intelligent brides : Have you even read any of my posts on the first 2 pages? It's like you have selective reading or something. If you had, you would see on one of the first pages that *I* have actually decided, after much ambivalence, to have *my* Dad walk me down the aisle, albeit without any words of "exchange" of any type happening once we're at the front. I never said you should or should not do anything. I posted asking about people's feelings regarding sexist wedding traditions and <strong>questioning why intelligent people would continue to engage in them. If you think that's rude, I think you are too sensitive.</strong> I still disagree with your opinion that my posting style is rude etc. etc., and you cited one of the few where I pulled out the claws, but whatever.
Posted by VegasCalling[/QUOTE]

<div>But that is rude, because you're implying that I'm not intelligent because I had my parents 'give me away.' I am educated and strong, but my parents put me through college and raised me to be the woman I am today. I see nothing sexist in recognizing them for their support and love.</div>

jemmini6 · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sexist wedding traditions and intelligent brides : Have you even read any of my posts on the first 2 pages? It's like you have selective reading or something. If you had, you would see on one of the first pages that *I* have actually decided, after much ambivalence, to have *my* Dad walk me down the aisle, albeit without any words of "exchange" of any type happening once we're at the front. I never said you should or should not do anything. I posted asking about people's feelings <strong>regarding sexist wedding traditions and questioning why intelligent people would continue to engage in them.</strong> If you think that's rude, I think you are too sensitive. I still disagree with your opinion that my posting style is rude etc. etc., and you cited one of the few where I pulled out the claws, but whatever.
Posted by VegasCalling[/QUOTE]

This is the crux of everything that offends me about you. You seem to think that intelligence = feminism, or that education = intelligence. Just because YOU don't like these traditons, does not mean that women who do are stupid or uneducated...THIS is what is offensive about everything you post.

You can choose to find certain traditions sexist, and therefore not participate in them. But if you were as intelligent or as feminist as you claim to be, you would realize that women can also see past the sexist beginnings of certain traditions and choose to participate in them and still be intelligent. Also, just having the ability to CHOOSE their path, whether it follows yours or not, is what makes them a feminist.

And like I've said before, if you can't understand how your insinuation about equating intelligence to these traditions comes off as rude, then you are so far beyond common sense it's actually funny.

[Deleted User] · February 2012

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[QUOTE]Young ladies, I have been around since 1951. I remember how things used to be for women. It really irritates me to see young women who weren't there judge other women by how they choose to be addressed, or whether or not they think certain practices are sexist. The whole point of the women's movement in the 1960s and 1970s was to give women choices that were denied to them in earlier times. It was never anyone's intention to dictate to women how to think. I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread. You ladies weren't there when scholarships were for men only. (I was denied one because I didn't have a penis.) You ladies weren't there when women were locked in the dormatory at midnight, but men roamed the campus freely. You ladies weren't there when women started breaking into the male ranks of medicine, law, architecture and engineering. Shame on you who think you know how other women should choose their lives. You know nothing of what it is to endure the prejudice, patronization, and sexual harrassment of those days. Thank God women today have choice that women in my generation did not. One of those choices is to live a traditional lifestyle. If a woman chooses to honor tradition in her marriage ceremony, then it is none of your business. You have just been flamed.
Posted by CMGr[/QUOTE]

LOVE THIS.

Gabrielle76 · February 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_customs-traditions_sexist-wedding-traditions-and-intelligent-brides?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:36Discussion:b246a7e1-c217-4a32-ab47-46dc4b094703Post:42d30b56-9d7f-4e4a-97ec-9d0b8de1d8b0">Re: Sexist wedding traditions and intelligent brides</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sexist wedding traditions and intelligent brides : Oh, please. You managed to rile the *VEGAS* board, and that's the most chill bunch of people I know. And why? Because you wanted to poke fun at the institution of marriage by having a token gay minister (preferably a butch and not a lipstick, as you so kindly put it) as another way to fly in the face of tradition. You further riled the Gay Weddings board by posting a watered-down version there. Are you seeing a trend? Maybe it's not the site; maybe it's YOU. If you hate the traditions involved with marriage so much, why are you getting married? Why keep poking at people on a site dedicated to marriage and its traditions? Why are you binding yourself to a man under legal code/document if you are so adamantly opposed to the marriage/wedding institution?
Posted by burntofferings[/QUOTE]

Wow, that sounded interesting, so I checked out those posts. Holy goodness.

cami913 · February 2012

Here's a wild and crazy idea...if you don't like something, don't do it. It seems a little ridiculous to go on and on about how a father giving away his daughter at her wedding is oppressive to women, and then say that you're going to do it anyways. If you don't want to take your husband's name, don't. But it doesn't need to be made into a scene about "I am my own person and I'm not going to let the man get me down". It is not right to say women are less than men, or all women belong in the home and not in the workforce, so if we're being non-stereotypical, let's not say that all men are trying to oppress women by wanting to share the same last name as them, or by wanting to walk their little girl down the aisle on the biggest day of her life. Not everything needs to be made into a huge issue. If men are so awful, don't marry one.

getaclue44 · February 2012

I am confused because clearly you want to get married, but you seem to feel like it is an attack against feminism to do so. My family is very close and I am looking forward to my father walking me down the aisle--not because I am his property, but because his blessing of my marriage is very important to me. My fiance asked for my father's blessing--because he knew it was important to me.

I have friends who have not changed their names and that is a personal choice--I will be changing mine--I had one set of friends who combined their names to make a new last name that represented them both.

In the end, you need to be happy with your decisions--

em01092 · February 2012

My grandma (78) recently told me that she endured sexual harrasment in her workplace when she was young and working, but she had no one to go to about it. It wasn't talked about. HR didn't acknowledge the offense and she was afraid to go to the police out of fear of losing her livelihood. It's so sad to hear about these types of things, along with what the PPs mentioned, but it helps put things into perspective about how things were for women, and while we can debate the feminism equality vs. choice issue, the point is we didn't have a whole lot of either not that long ago, and we're making progress.

em01092 · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sexist wedding traditions and intelligent brides : Many women who don't want to be called feminist are perfectly strong and fighting for what's right, they just don't like how you do it or what you think is right. Frankly, I think its right to address all people how they wish to be addressed, as a way of respecting that person, <strong>so when my friend wants her invitation to read Mr. and Mrs. what's his name, then thats how I address it.</strong> Further even if this were WRONG is it really the fight thats worth having right now, or are there maybe real problems we should be focusing on instead of telling other women how they should be addressed and what their name should be or how to walk in at their wedding? Lastly, I believe that many of the things women who call themselves feminist do to move women's rights forward to not have the effect they are looking for.
Posted by KatyRoseM[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Did you seriously have a conversation with all of your friends/family about this? The B&G have to pick a style for invitations (Mr. and Mrs. John Smith, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, or Jane and John Smith), and it just doesn't seem practical to call each one and ask how they might like to be addressed. Or maybe you'd address older couples or people you refer to by last name (people at my grandma's church/her friends) differently than those you call by first name.</div><div>
</div><div>The only reason it came up with the friend/BM I mentioned is because we lived together for 2 years and have both been planning our weddings, respectively. She emailed me her GL when I asked to throw her a shower, and I saw how she had her guests (Mr. and Mrs. John Smith) in her Excel sheet. I never told her explicitly that I personally thought this was wrong or that I planned to do it any differently for my own wedding. She'll just find out when I send her the invitation addressed as Mr. and Mrs. Smith. </div><div>
</div><div>Maybe she is doing the former version because it's more formal/traditional? Our wedding is not so much. Like I said, I know it's a very common and accepted thing, but I wouldn't shed a tear if it was a custom that died.

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Poppy101212 · February 2012

Both my parents are walking me down the aisle.

Don't tell my PhD.

Abar0302 · February 2012

Lol. Yikes! so sensitive. But everyone has their reasons. Just do what you want and be who you are. Let's agree to disagree... It's just one of those topics. Though I love reading everyone's points of view. Happy wedding planning - no matter how you choose to make it down the aisle.

harpsdesire · February 2012

My FI asked both my mother and father for their blessing (as opposed to 'permission') before asking me to marry him. I thought it was a sweet gesture, and I appreciate that it made them feel included.

I see the 'being given away' as more a symbolic transition from the family that raised you to the new family you are creating through marriage. I'm planning to have my father walk me, but probably will not use the 'who gives this woman' language. I think 'who blesses' is a nice option. I might ask all four parents (FI's an mine) to say 'we do'.

What I'm NOT doing is forcing the single ladies to vy for my flowers in an attempt to get some marriage mojo. I think THAT tradition, along with the garter toss, is a little sexist and gross.

KatyRoseM · February 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sexist wedding traditions and intelligent brides : Did you seriously have a conversation with all of your friends/family about this? The B&G have to pick a style for invitations (Mr. and Mrs. John Smith, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, or Jane and John Smith), and it just doesn't seem practical to call each one and ask how they might like to be addressed. Or maybe you'd address older couples or people you refer to by last name (people at my grandma's church/her friends) differently than those you call by first name. The only reason it came up with the friend/BM I mentioned is because we lived together for 2 years and have both been planning our weddings, respectively. She emailed me her GL when I asked to throw her a shower, and I saw how she had her guests (Mr. and Mrs. John Smith) in her Excel sheet. I never told her explicitly that I personally thought this was wrong or that I planned to do it any differently for my own wedding. She'll just find out when I send her the invitation addressed as Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Maybe she is doing the former version because it's more formal/traditional? Our wedding is not so much. Like I said, I know it's a very common and accepted thing, but I wouldn't shed a tear if it was a custom that died.
Posted by em01092[/QUOTE]

I did ask all my married guests what they preferred. (Ok, I asked my friends, FI asked his and parents either knew because of previous weddings or asked their friends). It didn't seem like a big deal.

AngelRiddle · March 2012

Throughout my short life so far, I've held steady positions such as audio engineer and information technology engineer. I don't say this to boast, but I'm just saying that I'd like to think that I'm pretty well-educated and intelligent.

That being said, I am still having my father walk me down the aisle. I feel this helps convey the honor, love, and respect I have for the man who raised me and provided for me as a child and through college. It's not a transfer of ownership, but one of responsibility. This is a tradition that I can back up.

I'm pretty neutral about the "giving away" vs "blessing" wording. I feel that either way it's appropriate.

I am taking on my husband's last name as well, not because I will be "property," but because it's also a symbolism of unity of the couple to me.

mbrischoux · March 2012

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[QUOTE]Also, I am absolutely dreading being referred to as "Mrs. Scott HisLastName." We are asking the preacher not to say this after the ceremony ( I now pronounce you...).<strong> I have my own first name., I don't need to be referred to by his. </strong>I know most people don't care, and I have to get over it because we will receive mail like this, but it irks me. This DOES make it seem like I have no indentity other than my FI's/H's wife, though I know it's not true. I wish this one would die, but it probably won't.
Posted by em01092[/QUOTE]

Yes. I'm Mrs. MyName OURname, thanks so much!

missaprilmarie1988 · March 2012

I almost wonder if the OP was posting JUST to ruffle feathers?? I am not fortunate enough to have my biological or adoptive dad walk me down the isle. My adoptive dad I only had the luxury of knowing and being raised by for a couple years before he passed on, and as for my bio father never met him. I am however incredibly close to adoptive cousin, he and I grew up together and he is pretty much like my brother, my rock, and I look up to him. I will have him walk me down the isle because it in my opinion is a symbolism of me growing to the young woman I am today and starting a new chapter in my life with my FH and starting my own family. I think the OP has a few screws loose and is honestly trying to stir something up.

prymar08 · March 2012

I COMPLETELY understand where you are coming from! I finally decided to hyphenate, because I like to think of us as a family unit, but there are no lasting males to carry on my family name, so I feel that it would be sad to let it die now. If we ever do have children, they will take both of our last names as well.

prymar08 · March 2012

<div>Vegas, I agree with all of your points. In the future, you might try to remove the personal aspect from your argument - instead of asking a question like "what the hell is your problem," ask it in a way that simply addresses the issue. Yes, you should feel free to speak however you feel, but realize that it probably won't win over any converts or make much of a statement to people, and honestly, this is what you want right? I certainly want more women AND men to embrace feminism (that being said, if you actually read the definitition of the word and don't agree with it, you are living in the dark ages). I also want people to care about animal suffering, but I'm not going to scare people off with PETA rants, because I know it's only going to hurt my cause. That being said, sometimes extreme viewpoints do make a difference, as I point out later.
</div><div>Nonetheless, the points that Vegas made ARE points that we should all consider. I'm not saying that you can't have your Father walk you down the isle, but realize that many of these traditions had sexist meaning. And I think the real root of the problem is this:<strong> sexism absolutely still exhists today</strong>. Because it still exhists, it is important for us to keep in mind that certain "gender roles" and adhering to sociatal norms may keep the sexism alive to some extent.
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[QUOTE]Young ladies, I have been around since 1951. I remember how things used to be for women.<strong> It really irritates me to see young women who weren't there judge other women by how they choose to be addressed, or whether or not they think certain practices are sexist. </strong>The whole point of the women's movement in the 1960s and 1970s was to give women choices that were denied to them in earlier times. It was never anyone's intention to dictate to women how to think. I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread. You ladies weren't there when scholarships were for men only. (I was denied one because I didn't have a penis.) You ladies weren't there when women were locked in the dormatory at midnight, but men roamed the campus freely. You ladies weren't there when women started breaking into the male ranks of medicine, law, architecture and engineering. Shame on you who think you know how other women should choose their lives. You know nothing of what it is to endure the prejudice, patronization, and sexual harrassment of those days. Thank God women today have choice that women in my generation did not. One of those choices is to live a traditional lifestyle. If a woman chooses to honor tradition in her marriage ceremony, then it is none of your business. You have just been flamed.
Posted by CMGr[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>But wasn't some of the extremism of the 60's and 70's partially to thank for the rights that we now have as women? I don't think that Vegas necessariily judging everyone, but she was pointing out that we should be aware of things that continue to propogate sexism. She certainly isn't burning bras and telling people that they are unintelligent if they wear a wedding ring.
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</div><div>Sometimes the truth does come accross as extreme. </div><div>
</div><div>As for myself, I have stuggled with this concept of "the traditional wedding" and my views on gender roles/historical implications, and I have decided to do something sort of in-between. Everyone has this right to decide, but everyone should also think about this subject as the strong women that we are. You may decide that some traditions/gender roles may not make the most sense and may even be harmful to our sex. </div>

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