getting skimped on holidays

Brina105 · November 2012

dirty delete so no one in my office sees!: )

lyndausvi · November 2012

Do you have an employee handbook with a holiday schedule?

Honestly I would talk to your boss. You have a reasonable right to assume you will be closed. I'm okay with changing holidays for the NEXT year, but when you are already in a calendar year I think it's pretty shitty to change without any notice.

OliveOilsMom · November 2012

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[QUOTE]hi! So i usually don't post on this board and was going to post this on the 9-5 board on TN but that entire site has crickets...Anyway. I thought i would put it here since this is an active board and I needed some advice. I have worked at the same employer for 3 years. Over the past 3 years we have taken Presidents Day, (not MLK day), Good Friday, Fourth of July, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving, Day after and Christmas Well now ater columbus day passed this year my boss said we are no longer taking it off because one of our customers (ONE of liek 10) was open. Then My coworkers emailed her her monthly schedule (she has a flex schedule) and she wrote"Novemebr 12th closed" and our boss wrote bnack that we are "no longer taking that holiday" I already went ahead and booked a hotel room with my husband for a weekend away! we were going Sun-monday since he works saturday... and driving up early sunday am. If i cancel, ther eis a cancelation fee since it is less than 30 days notice (its a small inn). What am i supposed to do? Should it ell my employer this. For the last 3 years I had veteran's day off...NOT to mention that my husband and my coworkers husband is a veteran!
Posted by Brina105[/QUOTE]

You're boss should have informed everyone sooner that Columbus Day & Veterans Day will no longer be office holidays. (My office has never had these days off!) But since that did not happen, I think you have 2 options: try to see if the inn will move your reservation to a different night, without you having to pay a penalty or take a vacation day.

You could attempt to speak with your boss as well, maybe if you explain that since this has been a long standing day off, many employees have already decided to take a getaway that weekend. Try to convince the boss to start the new Holiday schedule in 2013.

Brina105 · November 2012

We don't have any employee handbook. We are a 3 person company and have asked Many times if we could put together a handbook and revise it every year.
No on keeps track of my vacation time, so I am just going to take it as a "vacation" day and say I have 3 left instead of the 2 I have... so it all comes out in the wash, but she could always say no to the vacation time off...

Brina105 · November 2012

The other thing is my boss dind't even tell ME we don't have the day off yet... she told my coworker who told me...so when am I supposed to assume we are not working?? The day before?

QueerFemme · November 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re:getting skimped on holidays: Do the other two people in your office knot?
Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

And um, you were quoted... so, what's the point?

MyNameIsNot · November 2012

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[QUOTE]The other thing is my boss dind't even tell ME we don't have the day off yet... she told my coworker who told me...so when am I supposed to assume we are not working?? The day before?
Posted by Brina105[/QUOTE]

<div>Are you suggesting playing dumb and just not saying anything? It seems like the path of least resistance, but when the boss asks where you are on Monday morning, the other co-worker is probably going to mention the email. </div>

Brina105 · November 2012

sorry I DD before I realized I was quoted. Anyway...they don't knot ...but you just can never be too careful.

My point was, this was a private email between a part time employee and my boss. Which I was not included in. And I have not received an email since.
I have worked here for 3 years and have for each of these years received Veterans day off. HOw else am I supposed to know the vacation days? She just always tells us that we take the same days as the year before, its the unwrtten rule. So I think I was right to assume. Should I assume that we are no longer taking thanksgiving and christmas soon? How was I to know she would decide to take away a holiday that I have had for 3 yearsand past employees had for 9 years (she just got fired)....

Its not hte point of the reservation. I can move it, or i can pay the fee to get out of it, or offer it to my brother. The point is not being told I "don't" have a company holiday off we have had in the past. When is she going to tell me? two days before?
My husband is a veteran and we Always go away this weekend. It's my treat to him.

the email to my coworker was a private email that also disuccsed her pay and what not. so if my coworker somehow throws me under the bus and says she told me about this email ... well... I can say I didin't know that paplied to me, siince she is Part time and i am full time- Which is the honest truth!! How do i even know this applies?

I decided I'm going to just mention to her my plans for the holiday weekend when we have our weekly recap and ask her what i need to finish before it, and then if she tells me we don't ahve it off- to me, directly, I will explain the situation and asked to take a vacation day.

Maggie0829 · November 2012

Why don't you just come right out and ask your boss if you have that day off? Be a big girl and just talk to your boss. It is quite simple, "Hey boss, I was just wondering if our company will be open on X day since it is a holiday?" Not hard. If your boss says that the company is open then ask to take a vacation day.

Stop trying to be sneaky or sly or whatever the word is I am looking for (so irritating!) and just be upfront about the situation.

Edit: And just because your husband and your co-workers husband are veterans does not mean that you automatically get off on veterans day. So this is really a moot point.

Brina105 · November 2012

I realize that just because tey are veterans we don't get the day off. I am not an idiot.I am just saying as am employer of military families, it's pretty jerky to take this holiday OF all holidays away. Take away the day after thanksgiving for all I care, but as she said "its a non-essential holiday we will no longer be taking off.." was the email to my coworker comes off kind of rude.

I shouldn't have to ask if I have a day off a week before a holiday. I received the holiday in the past, its part of hte holiday schedule.
That is ridiculous. I'm not being "sneaky" I am just saying My boss did not approach me to let me know so I will wait until I do instead of jumpting to conclusions.If my boss told my coworker she was getting a 10% paycut and my coworker said "we are getting 10 prercent pay cuts" I wouldn't expect to see it in my check, I would wait until she approached me.
the rule in our office is that you only "bother" the boss for essential questions. She is here for limited hours and days so she likes to work in her office with the door closed uninterupted.

Brina105 · November 2012

sorry I'm not trying to get snippy. I am just trying to "not jump to conculsions" and assume we don't have the day off as I had done... because that's just silly. I am going about the day as if we had it off, as we had in teh past, until I hear otherwise. None of this hearsay nonsense.
I'm not not "being a big girl" I just am not going to stir the pot. The person that stirs the pot is always the one no one likes in the office. You don't get a head by whining to the boss. That is why i whined here lol

Brina105 · November 2012

What? Are you an insane person?

Brina105 · November 2012

ok dragon lady!

Maggie0829 · November 2012

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[QUOTE]sorry I'm not trying to get snippy. I am just trying to "not jump to conculsions" and assume we don't have the day off as I had done... because that's just silly. I am going about the day as if we had it off, as we had in teh past, until I hear otherwise. None of this hearsay nonsense. I'm not not "being a big girl" I just am not going to stir the pot. <strong>The person that stirs the pot is always the one no one likes in the office. You don't get a head by whining to the boss</strong>. That is why i whined here lol
Posted by Brina105[/QUOTE]

How would asking your boss if that day is still considered a holiday being whiny?

And you think sitting around just hoping your boss is going to say something to you is the better option? Or just assuming that the day is still a holiday and not coming into work when your company may or may not be open is a good option as well?

GoodLuckBear14 · November 2012

Clarification =/= whining.

Telling you this does not make one insane...it generally makes one a person who has experience with life. If you come off as whiny when asking about clarifications for anything, especially work related, you really have some work to do.

"Hey boss. I'm hearing rumors that we aren't getting Veteran's Day off. True or not true?"

How hard it that????

RamonaFlowers · November 2012

Dude. Go to your boss and say "Look, I already made plans for Veteren's Day, because we have always been closed that day, but now there's rumors flying around the office that we don't have that day off this year. If this is true, is it too late for me to put in a request to use a vacation day that day?".

It's not that flucking hard. I can guarantee that your boss would much rather you approach her directly than to just wait for next week to roll around and just see if your boss says something like "Oh, see you on Monday!" on Friday night and then get hit with "Oh, I'm working that day? I just figured I was off since I always am for Veteren's Day. I booked a hotel room and everything". That just puts her in the annoyingly awkward (And completely avoidable) situation of having to either just let you have the time off (Regardless of if you should or shouldn't) or having to "be the bad guy" and tell you that you're SOL, because you need to be there.

And what if this opportunity to bring this up that you're sitting on your @$$ waiting for never presents itself? Are you just going to not show up for work and hope for the best? Yes, I'm sure your boss will find it to be a waaaaaaaaaaay smaller inconvenience if you just flat out miss an entire day of working with no notice because you just assumed that you had the day off than you taking 2 minutes of her time a week in advanced to work this out.

Brina105 · November 2012

i think you all need to take into account that I work in my office so I best understand the environment... "rumors" don't work in a 3 person office- that is kind of absurd to say. And also, I know that she bites my head off if I come to ask her for anything that is not work "project" related. She said all personal "work" emails ie: time off, vacation, pay, benies, etc are to be discussed at our annual meeting or via email and she said she will get to the questions when she has free time to do so. So I can email her all i want but she won't answer. She does tis ALL the time.I asked for vacation time off for my honeymoon a year in advance and she approved it 3 weeks before- I had to bite my nails everday. And when i went into her office to check on it, in a very professional manner, she said she is only available to discuss "pressing" issues at the time....
so i am afraid if i ask I will ahve my head bitten off again...ok?

RamonaFlowers · November 2012

Are you seriously trying to tell me that there is NO possible way for you to tweak the general wording of my suggestion of how to approach your boss to be applicable? Seriously?

Summer2011Bride · November 2012

Well if every option we throw at you (namely just talking to your boss) you feel is off the table, then I guess the only option you have is to cancel your vacation and go to work on the 12th. If you refuse (or say you feel that you can't) talk to you boss about this (which is ridiculous) then if you want to keep your job there, I'd err on the side of caution, cancel or postpone the trip and have every intention of working Veteran's Day.

StefffiC · November 2012

I generally verify company holidays prior to making non refundable travel plans.

Wouldn't that be easier?

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