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Re: Women's Rights

  • MP - I took ENGR 194, met Janice Voss there, and it played a role in my joining Phi Rho (I might have anyway - as there was a phi rho in my spanish class and one of my dad's friend's daughters was a purdue phi rho so I was getting it from a lot of angles, haha).

    I sincerely appreciate the struggle that lead to where we are today - but sometimes listening to those lectures I couldn't help but think they were still fighting a fight that I didn't see existing anymore :-/
  • Kate, while I haven't noticed anything at my office, and you say that you haven't either, I had an interesting discussion with a woman in a blog comments section about her experience.  She said that she was still having issues being a woman in engineering.  I should go find it.  But I think she might have also been in NC or more down south.  Perhaps it's different there than in Boston or Chicago.

    My boss has actually made ONE comment that if I had discussed it with HR, they wouldn't have been happy.  Right after I got married, we had a client meeting. He was trying to tell our clients that we were all prepared to work really hard to complete the work.  When I introduced myself, I stumbled in trying to remember my new name.  My boss then joked "Oh yeah, Anne just got married.  But don't worry, we told her that she can't have a baby so that she can work hard on this project."  I know that he was just joking and brushed it off.  But I did raise my eyebrows at the comment.
  • Special -- I'm really impressed by your church's commitment to the LGBT community.  I don't hear of things like that often.  Would you mind sharing what church you belong to?
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  • Title IX actually kind of sucks for student athletes.  Generally, more men continue participating in sports than women.  With Title IX, certain sports must cut men's teams/members first, unless they meet a certain quota of females.  So to have 100 men on the track team, there must be 60 females or something like that.  Football gets 100, because for football and ice hockey we have field hockey, equestrian, and sailing.  We also have cheer but that's not NCAA so doesn't count.  It's really weird but it kind of sucks that the guys teams have to make cuts just because there are LITERALLY not enough female athletes.  The women's team makes zero cuts because the interest level isn't as high and they need numbers so they can have more guys.  It's effed.

    I voted in 2008, so I wouldn't have been able to do that.  Or probably run in college.  My grandmother's whole family (3 girls two boys) went to college, and as it was uncommon it was something their parents wanted for them, very progressive.  

    CRFB we would probably have to run in skorts.  I wouldn't have minded because I have a few pair but I prefer my spandex.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_womens-rights?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fa885695-38a6-4243-8dd3-8370e3c9e298Post:f50d875c-93ca-4bbf-b698-82f77ead0c3b">Re: Women's Rights</a>:
    [QUOTE]Special -- I'm really impressed by your church's commitment to the LGBT community.  I don't hear of things like that often.  Would you mind sharing what church you belong to?
    Posted by Avion22[/QUOTE]

    <div>I go to a UU church. They're pretty liberal, especially in terms of human rights and other social issues. Our minister is woman, and I think that's pretty awesome.</div><div>
    </div><div><a href="http://www.uua.org/beliefs/principles/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.uua.org/beliefs/principles/index.shtml</a> </div>
  • I come from a big feminist family (my mom's side - the side i'm closer to), where all the women kept their maiden names, and on both sides of my family my aunts, grandmothers, and most of my great-grandmothers went to college. My mom is a radiologist, and I was raised in a house where boys and girls could do the same exact things, x vs y chromosomes be damned :) It wasn't until I was much older that I realized how recently gender equality has developed.

    Besides being able to vote, have my own credit card and bank account, live in an apt by myself, play lacrosse and other sports, and have control over my reprodcutive system, I can also choose my own career and know my gender will not hold me back as much as it would have 50 years ago. Things are still not perfect, women are still paid less than men in several fields at equivalent positions, but it's kind of amazing talking to my grandma about how her father didn't want to support her dream of becoming a doctor, so she got her masters in math instead and taught high school math. 
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  • My mother was one of the first to get a grad degree in electrical engineering and become a computer programmer.  I've followed in her footsteps with much less resistance. (Although I was absolutely the odd one out in a boy's club at college, the only female computer science major in my graduating class, and there was only one in the class before me, and two the class after.)
  • Both of my paternal great-grandmothers worked - one was a teacher, the other worked in a factory or cannery - in addition to being farm wives.  Both of my grandmothers worked, and my mom was the breadwinner in our family for most of my life.  In fact, my dad was a stay at home dad for a while.  My parents split chores fairly evenly - mom did the cooking but dad did dishes, both did the laundry, dad did the vacuuming while mom mowed the lawn.  There were not a lot of traditional gender roles in my house.

    H's family, on the other hand, is very traditional.  Dad worked and made money, Mom took care of the kids and the house.  Dad never changed a diaper or wiped the kids when they were potty training, never did laundry, never made a meal.  Mom, on the other hand, never did any of the home maintenance.  H and I struggled in the beginning of our relationship and our marriage because I was not about to be put into a gender-role box.  I would go nuts if I stayed home, and he knows it.  A big part of the reason we aren't having kids is because if we did either my job or my kids would suffer...and I'm afraid it would be the kids.

    So I guess it's given me the opportunity to do what I want and be emotionally supported instead of chastised for that decision.
  • I am stoked I can vote. I hate that reproductive rights are still an issue. And there is a lot of fear around our reproductive system thus forcing processes on us we don't need. I like that I can work in management jobs. I hate Title IX, for reasons PPs said. I hate that women are still sluts for having multiple sex partners yet men can have as many women they want and it's "cool." I like how women suffragists were striking terror in England at the turn of the 20th Century. Then Americans learned from them. Direct action makes me smile. I hate that feminists can not all agree on what needs to be done, putting strain on the movement. This is similar to what is happenin in the Occupy movement. I have a lot more to say, I am sure. But I am on the iPhone and I am exhausted. I will gladly elaborate, if asked.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_womens-rights?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fa885695-38a6-4243-8dd3-8370e3c9e298Post:f152f039-6828-4159-b892-abab8cc4f287">Re: Women's Rights</a>:
    [QUOTE]I am stoked I can vote. I hate that reproductive rights are still an issue. And there is a lot of fear around our reproductive system thus <strong>forcing processes on us we don't need</strong>. I like that I can work in management jobs. I hate Title IX, for reasons PPs said. I hate that women are still sluts for having multiple sex partners yet men can have as many women they want and it's "cool." I like how women suffragists were striking terror in England at the turn of the 20th Century. Then Americans learned from them. Direct action makes me smile. I hate that feminists can not all agree on what needs to be done, putting strain on the movement. This is similar to what is happenin in the Occupy movement. I have a lot more to say, I am sure. But I am on the iPhone and I am exhausted. I will gladly elaborate, if asked.
    Posted by Nickivegan[/QUOTE]

    <div>Have you heard about the unnecessary vaginal probe procedure for women seeking abortions in VA? I really honestly can't believe that in 2012 there is such a large scale attack on reproductive rights. It's kind of mind boggling considering 98% of sexually active women use a form of birth control in their lifetimes.</div>
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