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Not sure what to do about nightmare bridesmaid.

Okay, this is going to be long. I'm sorry, but I really need the advice.  Here's a little bit of background on the issue:

My fiance's sister has always been a little wacky. She's super attention seeking and has all these... umm.. 'quirks' I guess you can call it. She does have a psychiatric history, claiming to have bipolar disorder, OCD, SADs, and whatever other psychiatric condition that she hears about on television. (I know this sounds very insensitive, but as a nurse and someone that grew up around true mental illness, I can honestly testify that she suffers from something called Borderline Personality Disorder and really nothing else. I've witnessed her watching TV commercials where they advertise for psychiatric drugs and she's like "I think I have that!" and will pretty much add it to her list that she tells everyone she comes in contact with about. The more illnesses she has, the more attention she gets.)

So when I met my fiance, his sister sort of latched onto me. She is a very nice person, just a little eccentric, so we were friends and would hang out and all that stuff. One day she said to me "When I get married, you'll be my maid of honor. Will I be yours?" and I told her no... it would be my best friend that I grew up with and have known for more than 20 years. She was very hurt by this and started crying. I tried to explain to her that I've only known her for a year and that my maid of honor is practically a sister to me. She said she understood but was very quiet and pouty for a good week or so after this happened. I wasn't even engaged at this point, either.

Well, my fiance and his sister do not exactly get along. They are both in their 30s and still fight like children. Honestly, the sister will sit there and pick at him about something and is just absolutely relentless. Then he will usually tell her after 30 minutes of agreeing with her to shut up and a screaming match will ensue. It doesn't matter if this happens in their living room or at a fancy restaurant. She always ends up screaming at him and making a scene until he gets mad and storms out. This also happens EVERY TIME we are together, no matter what the occasion.

So he asks me to marry him. Of course I'm very excited and happy and can't wait to get married. We do a videochat with his family (we live 400 miles away) and show the ring to his mom and dad. His sister sees the ring and says congrats. Everyone is happy. 

The next day she texted my fiance and asked if we picked out people for the bridal party yet. He said no, but he didn't want siblings in the wedding party.  (I was unaware that he was having this conversation with her.) So I was in the middle of texting someone when she called me... I picked up without realizing it. I stared at my phone for a second not realizing what happened, then it dawned on me that someone had called and I should probably say hello at some point or another.
Me: Hello?
Her: Hi! I was just wondering if you guys did anything with the bridal party yet?
Me: Ummm.... well, I know who my maid of honor is at this point. That's about it for the girls.
Her: Oh yeah? Well. So. That's neat. When do you think you'll know your bridesmaids?
Me: Not really sure... (I can sense that she's really wanting me to ask her. She starts with a guilt trip.)
Her: Yeah... So she's gonna be your maid of honor? Hmm... You know you're my best friend, right? 
(At this point I don't know what to do because I was caught completely off guard with the phone call and I know she's trying to get me to ask her to be in the wedding. I want to keep the peace with his parents and all and I know that her mother wanted her in the wedding, but I really didn't think it would be a good idea)
Me: Yeah, I guess. 
Her: I'm surprised you haven't asked me to be in the wedding yet.
Me: I-uh-well-um...
*very awkward silence*
Me: Well.. I mean, do you want to be a bridesmaid? I know you don't have a job and all and it can be expensive having to pay for some of the stuff, you know?
Her: It's okay, I still get a monthly check and mom can help.
Me: Oh. I see.
Her: So yeah, it's no problem. I'd love to be in your wedding.

Wonderful. So then all of the problems started.
 My fiance finds out about all of this. He is furious. He said he told her he didn't want siblings in the wedding because he didn't want her acting up at the wedding and all of that. I'm thinking, hey, how bad can it be?

Problem #1 
The cough.
She's got a cough. It's hard to explain, but she goes into these weird coughing fits that sound unlike anything I've ever heard before. It doesn't sound like a cough... it sounds like a screech. And they last for about 5 minutes at a time and they happen quite often. If we go out to dinner for an hour and a half there will be at least 6 5 minute coughing fits. So now I'm thinking "what are we gonna do about the cough?" 
My fiance thinks the cough is for attention, that it's not real. He says she does it whenever the attention is taken off of her. She was given medication for the cough but she does not take it, claiming it makes her hyper. 
He brought the subject up with his mother, letting her know my concerns that she'll cough through the entire ceremony. She says not to worry, she'll make sure she takes the medicine.  The sister finds out about this conversation and of course flies off the handle. Then she quits the wedding and storms upstairs. 
At this point my fiance says "Fine. I'm not begging her to be in this, I don't even want her in this. Oh well. Done and over with, problem solved."
FMIL starts crying, sister crying. Sister wants back in the wedding. FMIL starts begging, so I get involved and say "Listen, neither of you guys can carry on a conversation for more than 8 minutes without a giant fight happening. It'll always be that way. But I cannot have you in and out of the wedding with every fight. This is it. You're either in or out. If you quit again you're done." So as of this point, she's in.

Problem #2
The Flowers
Well. I have allergies. Bad allergies. She has allergies. Bad allergies. I usually take Claritin-D in the AM, Benadryl in the evening, and get 2 allergy shots a week.  She started getting allergy shots but stopped going to her appointments (my theory is they made her feel better and that wouldn't give her attention). So she hasn't had an allergy shot in over 2 years. She owns two cats, too (she says she's allergic to cats). She does not take anything orally for allergies.
She sends me a text with a little suggestion.
"I was thinking. 4 ur wedding u should get silk flowers. The real flowers will bother my allergies a lot so i dont know what u'll do about the bouquets"
Ugh.
My response 
"I was planning on just having regular bouquets." 
Hers
"Well thats gonna bother my allergies. Thats like me making u hold a cat for 45 minutes knowing how allergic u are, you know?"
You've gotta be kidding me.
My response
"Well maybe I can look into get you silk flowers for your bouquet."
Hers
"well even so ill still have everyone elses bouquet around me. maybe u should just get all silk flowers"
Me:
"Well... I wanted to have real flower bouquets."
Her:
"well i dont know what im gonna do then"

Ok. No flowers at my wedding I guess? That's kind of weird. So I'm trying to be understanding about everything and decide to look around and see if I can find options for flowers. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt because honestly, if someone made me sit in a room with a cat or hold a cat for 45 minutes, my skin would be in a burning rash and I'd be desperate for an inhaler to relieve my asthma. I mean, I think she should take medication and maybe start getting her shots again, but that seems unrealistic at this point. So I actually found a nice alternative to flower bouquets that seemed to work out well. They were a lot cheaper and very unique, so things seem okay at this point.

Problem #3
Passive-aggressive gripes about money
When I chose my bridesmaids dresses, I put a lot of thought into different factors. Each bridesmaid has a different body type, so they will all not be comfortable wearing the same thing. I looked at prices and comfort, because I didn't want to cost the ladies a fortune.  So I found this very cute dress selection that has different styles that all coordinate together. It's pretty much the same dress except there's a halter, spaghetti straps, strapless, boatneck, and one comes with a little jacket thing. So all of the bridesmaids loved these dresses... and they cost $79.99 a piece. I didn't think that was a bad price considering some of the dresses were over $400. Well, before she bought her dress we went to the mall... she spent over $400 in one store alone. She bought stuff from 2 other stores, too, but I don't know how much she spent because I stayed on a bench while she shopped. She usually goes on a yearly retreat for one of her 'conditions' so someone posted on her Facebook page asking whether or not she was going.
"No, I'm going to be in my brother's and best friend's wedding, so that's costing me a fortune since I have to buy my own dress and pay for everything myself."
Then all of the comments on the thing start.
 "Why doesn't the bride pay for the dress?"
"Ew, I wouldn't be in a wedding where the bride made me pay, that's insane!"
"Tell that bridezilla to pick a reasonable dress or maybe split the cost."

Um, excuse me, what? I thought my dresses were very reasonably priced and I told her beforehand that she would need to pay for things. If I could buy everyone's dress, I would, but I'm trying to pay for the rest of the wedding here on top of all of my other bills! I'm a full time student and I've been working close to 80 hours a week doing double shifts in the hospital to make enough money to afford what I can and she just sits home collecting a government check every month and living off of her parents (Who paid for her dress, by the way.) So I was a little hurt by these strangers calling me a bridezilla (I'm really not.) and I left a comment saying "I didn't think buying the dress would be such a burden. Especially because you were able to afford over $400 worth of clothes at (whatever the stores name was) and the dress was only $79.99. I thought that when we talked about you being in the wedding party and you said you had no problem paying for things that it was okay."   Needless to say the whole post was deleted.

Problem #4
Tattoos 
Hey, I'm all for tattoos. I don't have an issue with people who have them.  But she asked me if I wanted her to cover her tattoo (On her left shoulder blade). I told her that since her dress had a little jacket with it that it should cover the tattoo so I don't see it being an issue. Then she asked about the tattoo on her foot... well, it's maybe the size of a quarter and hardly noticeable. So I told her exactly that and said she should be fine. By the end of the week she's posting pictures of her brand new tattoo all over facebook. The tattoo covers her foot and goes halfway up her leg. (This tattoo cost her $150, mind you.) So not that I'm really a blowhard when it comes to tattoos but... I mean, come on. I figured I'd just let it go and let her show the damn thing since another bridesmaid has a tattoo on her ankle and I can't ask one to cover and not the other.  It looks ridiculous, though.

Problem # 5
The Bridal Shower
My MOH is planning a bridal shower (she had to tell me a date since I live out of state and need to beg for a weekend off from work to drive home). Well, the MOH has been emailing all of the girls in the bridal party asking for any input and ideas they may have. So sister calls the MOH and tells her that one thing that's super important to do: "You need to put somewhere on the invitations that people shouldn't buy the bride any lingerie because her breasts are so large that they won't look right in anything."

My MOH was like "are you serious?"
And she was.
Now, yes, I'm VERY top heavy and lingerie won't fit me properly... but it's something I've always been self conscious of and more than half the people there are going to be from the groom's side. These are people I've never met. I don't want them staring at my freakishly large boobs the first time I meet them! Jesus! So MOH does not put the special note. 
Sister gets upset that her idea wasn't used.
Calls MOH and leaves a VM complaining about it. MOH calls back and tries to explain that she felt I would be uncomfortable with a message like that. Sister "Well you don't know her like I do!" 
So now we add some real animosity to the mix.

Problem #6
The Dress
Oh, the dress. Well, since the very first day I've known this girl she's been a skinny little thing. Maybe weighing 110 and 5'10". So the wedding is in July and here comes March and she hasn't ordered or dress or anything yet. The place that we purchased the dresses from takes 10-12 weeks. So I call her and tell her that she needs to get the dress taken care of. She goes and gets fitted and orders the dress.
2 weeks ago I go home for a visit and get together with her. She looks great. Honestly. She put on some weight, but it looked very healthy. I asked her what she was doing and she said "I've been pigging out. I've been eating ice cream every night for like a month."
This raises a red flag with fiance.
"are you gonna fit into your dress?"
She says she should. I don't know how big she was when she actually went for her fitting because it had been a good 10 months since I saw her. So her mother says "I don't think it will fit."
So last week they go back to the store to try on the size she ordered, just to be on the safe side.
Doesn't fit. Doesn't zipper. She gained over 30 lbs since March... this was the first week of May. 
They ask about ordering a larger size...No go. Won't be in on time. Even with a rush order it won't be in on time. So I get the phone call
Her: "The dress doesn't fit."
Me: "No kidding? Um.. Can they get you a bigger size?"
Her: "No. They said even with a rush order it won't be ready."
Me: "What about if you wore a shaper maybe?"
Her: "Still won't work. Zipper doesn't come close."
Me: "Ok. Um. Wow. Alright. Is there any way they can maybe take it out some?"
Her: "She said they can but it still probably won't fit."
Me: " Can they add extra material? I'm not really sure what to do here."
Her: "She said they don't have any material to add on, I asked. Do you think i can maybe go to a different store and get a different dress?"
Me: "Well... how different of a dress? I mean... I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but I really had my heart set on the way those dresses coordinated together and they worked really well with my dress. I'm scared something from a different store might not match colors right and it'll stand out."
Her: "Well, I don't know what to do" and she hangs up.
Well.. I don't know what to do either. I mean... I'M NOT HAVING FLOWERS AT MY WEDDING BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE HER. She's going to cough through the whole damn ceremony, her big old eye sore of a tattoo will be showing, did I mention she wanted to dye her hair fire red for the wedding and wear a halo of flowers? You know, the kind children wear when they are flower girls?  Her and my fiance will probably get into a huge argument at some point during the reception, she'll tell anyone that will listen at the reception about the endless list of medical conditions she suffers from and will hit on any breathing male in eyesight- even if his girlfriend or wife is right there! And now she wants to wear a different dress altogether? Come on. Can I at least have some control over my wedding without being the bad guy here? I don't want to tell her to lose weight because she looks HEALTHY. But I don't want her to wear a different dress. These were the dresses I liked from the beginning and there were 4 different styles! It's not like the place ordered the wrong size, she admitted to eating ice cream pretty much every night!

So of course she posts on her damn Facebook page about "never thought I'd be on a diet. This sucks"  so people, knowing how thin she is, start commenting asking why she's on a diet. Of course, "Well, I'm in the wedding and I can't fit into my dress and they can't get a new one in time. The bride doesn't want me to wear a different dress." So here comes the bashing of the bridezilla again! All of these people are flipping out talking about what a terrible person I am when I've tried so hard to make everyone comfortable and have a good time.  Again, I picked different dresses for different body types. For shoes? Whatever the hell you want as long as they're white. I don't care if you wear flats, heels, whatever. Whatever you're comfortable in.  Hair and makeup? Up to you. You can put it up, wear it down, get it done, whatever. Nails? Again, if you wanna get them done, great! If not, who cares? Bridesmaid from out of town needs a place to stay? Well, I can't pay for it all, but I'll try to split the hotel bill since you're spending all this money on me anyway. When my MOH told me she was throwing me a shower and needed me to be home for it, I cried and told her she didn't have to do that at all, I wasn't expecting one and am very grateful for it. 
I haven't been demanding. I haven't been needy. I've been understanding of everyone's situation and I've really gone out of my way to accommodate people. Now my future sister-in-law is becoming a huge source of stress for me. I don't know what to do because at this point I'm ready to tell her she's out of the wedding, I'll pay for the dress, I don't care anymore. But this is my future sister in law and I don't want to cause a rift in the family. I spoke to my FMIL about some of the issues I was having and she just said "Oh, well, she has problems and you need to just be patient with her." But I HAVE been patient. I really have. (Oh, and while I was talking to the FMIL, sister is in the background eating a giant bowl of ice cream with chocolate syrup and whipped cream [video chat]). She's also very manipulative, so when someone makes her mad she tries to turn people against them (I've seen it with my fiance and one of her ex-friends). I'm worried that if I put my foot down and say no, she'll be pouting at the wedding and telling all of the relatives that she was a bridesmaid and I kicked her out because I wanted her to lose weight.  I told her if she found a dress with the color matching, we might be able to do something... So far all of the colors have been off. So I just don't know what to do.  Obviously planning a wedding is horribly stressful, especially when you are trying to handle a lot of the financial burden and you want to repeatedly hit one of your bridesmaids with a large, heavy object.  So I'm scared that I'm being irrational and just letting the stress come out, but I REALLY don't want her to wear a different dress that doesn't match anything. Am I overreacting? My fiance says "Oh well, she's out of the wedding, end of story." But I just don't want to cause friction between us and his parents. I just want at least ONE thing to go my way with this damn wedding. Ugh, I don't know what to do.   If you made it this far, thank you. This was quite a rant.
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Re: Not sure what to do about nightmare bridesmaid.

  • edited May 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_not-sure-nightmare-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:37Discussion:198ddb00-296a-4124-96e0-02d199d2d777Post:f14842e0-925d-4e43-a52e-b0ed6b5532be">Not sure what to do about nightmare bridesmaid.</a>:
    [QUOTE]Okay, this is going to be long. I'm sorry, but I really need the advice.  Here's a little bit of background on the issue: My fiance's sister has always been a little wacky. She's super attention seeking and has all these... umm.. 'quirks' I guess you can call it. She does have a psychiatric history, claiming to have bipolar disorder, OCD, SADs, and whatever other psychiatric condition that she hears about on television. (I know this sounds very insensitive, but as a nurse and someone that grew up around true mental illness, I can honestly testify that she suffers from something called Borderline Personality Disorder and really nothing else. I've witnessed her watching TV commercials where they advertise for psychiatric drugs and she's like "I think I have that!" and will pretty much add it to her list that she tells everyone she comes in contact with about. The more illnesses she has, the more attention she gets.) So when I met my fiance, his sister sort of latched onto me. She is a very nice person, just a little eccentric, so we were friends and would hang out and all that stuff. One day she said to me "When I get married, you'll be my maid of honor. Will I be yours?" and I told her no... it would be my best friend that I grew up with and have known for more than 20 years. She was very hurt by this and started crying. I tried to explain to her that I've only known her for a year and that my maid of honor is practically a sister to me. She said she understood but was very quiet and pouty for a good week or so after this happened. I wasn't even engaged at this point, either. Well, my fiance and his sister do not exactly get along. They are both in their 30s and still fight like children. Honestly, the sister will sit there and pick at him about something and is just absolutely relentless. Then he will usually tell her after 30 minutes of agreeing with her to shut up and a screaming match will ensue. It doesn't matter if this happens in their living room or at a fancy restaurant. She always ends up screaming at him and making a scene until he gets mad and storms out. This also happens EVERY TIME we are together, no matter what the occasion. So he asks me to marry him. Of course I'm very excited and happy and can't wait to get married. We do a videochat with his family (we live 400 miles away) and show the ring to his mom and dad. His sister sees the ring and says congrats. Everyone is happy.  The next day she texted my fiance and asked if we picked out people for the bridal party yet. He said no, but he didn't want siblings in the wedding party.  (I was unaware that he was having this conversation with her.) So I was in the middle of texting someone when she called me... I picked up without realizing it. I stared at my phone for a second not realizing what happened, then it dawned on me that someone had called and I should probably say hello at some point or another. Me: Hello? Her: Hi! I was just wondering if you guys did anything with the bridal party yet? Me: Ummm.... well, I know who my maid of honor is at this point. That's about it for the girls. Her: Oh yeah? Well. So. That's neat. When do you think you'll know your bridesmaids? Me: Not really sure... (I can sense that she's really wanting me to ask her. She starts with a guilt trip.) Her: Yeah... So she's gonna be your maid of honor? Hmm... You know you're my best friend, right?  (At this point I don't know what to do because I was caught completely off guard with the phone call and I know she's trying to get me to ask her to be in the wedding. I want to keep the peace with his parents and all and I know that her mother wanted her in the wedding, but I really didn't think it would be a good idea) Me: Yeah, I guess.  Her: I'm surprised you haven't asked me to be in the wedding yet. Me: I-uh-well-um... *very awkward silence* Me: Well.. I mean, do you want to be a bridesmaid? I know you don't have a job and all and it can be expensive having to pay for some of the stuff, you know? Her: It's okay, I still get a monthly check and mom can help. Me: Oh. I see. Her: So yeah, it's no problem. I'd love to be in your wedding. Wonderful. So then all of the problems started.  My fiance finds out about all of this. He is furious. He said he told her he didn't want siblings in the wedding because he didn't want her acting up at the wedding and all of that. I'm thinking, hey, how bad can it be? Problem #1  The cough. She's got a cough. It's hard to explain, but she goes into these weird coughing fits that sound unlike anything I've ever heard before. It doesn't sound like a cough... it sounds like a screech. And they last for about 5 minutes at a time and they happen quite often. If we go out to dinner for an hour and a half there will be at least 6 5 minute coughing fits. So now I'm thinking "what are we gonna do about the cough?"  My fiance thinks the cough is for attention, that it's not real. He says she does it whenever the attention is taken off of her. She was given medication for the cough but she does not take it, claiming it makes her hyper.  He brought the subject up with his mother, letting her know my concerns that she'll cough through the entire ceremony. She says not to worry, she'll make sure she takes the medicine.  The sister finds out about this conversation and of course flies off the handle. Then she quits the wedding and storms upstairs.  At this point my fiance says "Fine. I'm not begging her to be in this, I don't even want her in this. Oh well. Done and over with, problem solved." FMIL starts crying, sister crying. Sister wants back in the wedding. FMIL starts begging, so I get involved and say "Listen, neither of you guys can carry on a conversation for more than 8 minutes without a giant fight happening. It'll always be that way. But I cannot have you in and out of the wedding with every fight. This is it. You're either in or out. If you quit again you're done." So as of this point, she's in. Problem #2 The Flowers Well. I have allergies. Bad allergies. She has allergies. Bad allergies. I usually take Claritin-D in the AM, Benadryl in the evening, and get 2 allergy shots a week.  She started getting allergy shots but stopped going to her appointments (my theory is they made her feel better and that wouldn't give her attention). So she hasn't had an allergy shot in over 2 years. She owns two cats, too (she says she's allergic to cats). She does not take anything orally for allergies. She sends me a text with a little suggestion. "I was thinking. 4 ur wedding u should get silk flowers. The real flowers will bother my allergies a lot so i dont know what u'll do about the bouquets" Ugh. My response  "I was planning on just having regular bouquets."  Hers "Well thats gonna bother my allergies. Thats like me making u hold a cat for 45 minutes knowing how allergic u are, you know?" You've gotta be kidding me. My response "Well maybe I can look into get you silk flowers for your bouquet." Hers "well even so ill still have everyone elses bouquet around me. maybe u should just get all silk flowers" Me: "Well... I wanted to have real flower bouquets." Her: "well i dont know what im gonna do then" Ok. No flowers at my wedding I guess? That's kind of weird. So I'm trying to be understanding about everything and decide to look around and see if I can find options for flowers. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt because honestly, if someone made me sit in a room with a cat or hold a cat for 45 minutes, my skin would be in a burning rash and I'd be desperate for an inhaler to relieve my asthma. I mean, I think she should take medication and maybe start getting her shots again, but that seems unrealistic at this point. So I actually found a nice alternative to flower bouquets that seemed to work out well. They were a lot cheaper and very unique, so things seem okay at this point. Problem #3 Passive-aggressive gripes about money When I chose my bridesmaids dresses, I put a lot of thought into different factors. Each bridesmaid has a different body type, so they will all not be comfortable wearing the same thing. I looked at prices and comfort, because I didn't want to cost the ladies a fortune.  So I found this very cute dress selection that has different styles that all coordinate together. It's pretty much the same dress except there's a halter, spaghetti straps, strapless, boatneck, and one comes with a little jacket thing. So all of the bridesmaids loved these dresses... and they cost $79.99 a piece. I didn't think that was a bad price considering some of the dresses were over $400. Well, before she bought her dress we went to the mall... she spent over $400 in one store alone. She bought stuff from 2 other stores, too, but I don't know how much she spent because I stayed on a bench while she shopped. She usually goes on a yearly retreat for one of her 'conditions' so someone posted on her Facebook page asking whether or not she was going. "No, I'm going to be in my brother's and best friend's wedding, so that's costing me a fortune since I have to buy my own dress and pay for everything myself." Then all of the comments on the thing start.  "Why doesn't the bride pay for the dress?" "Ew, I wouldn't be in a wedding where the bride made me pay, that's insane!" "Tell that bridezilla to pick a reasonable dress or maybe split the cost." Um, excuse me, what? I thought my dresses were very reasonably priced and I told her beforehand that she would need to pay for things. If I could buy everyone's dress, I would, but I'm trying to pay for the rest of the wedding here on top of all of my other bills! I'm a full time student and I've been working close to 80 hours a week doing double shifts in the hospital to make enough money to afford what I can and she just sits home collecting a government check every month and living off of her parents (Who paid for her dress, by the way.) So I was a little hurt by these strangers calling me a bridezilla (I'm really not.) and I left a comment saying "I didn't think buying the dress would be such a burden. Especially because you were able to afford over $400 worth of clothes at (whatever the stores name was) and the dress was only $79.99. I thought that when we talked about you being in the wedding party and you said you had no problem paying for things that it was okay."   Needless to say the whole post was deleted. Problem #4 Tattoos  Hey, I'm all for tattoos. I don't have an issue with people who have them.  But she asked me if I wanted her to cover her tattoo (On her left shoulder blade). I told her that since her dress had a little jacket with it that it should cover the tattoo so I don't see it being an issue. Then she asked about the tattoo on her foot... well, it's maybe the size of a quarter and hardly noticeable. So I told her exactly that and said she should be fine. By the end of the week she's posting pictures of her brand new tattoo all over facebook. The tattoo covers her foot and goes halfway up her leg. (This tattoo cost her $150, mind you.) So not that I'm really a blowhard when it comes to tattoos but... I mean, come on. I figured I'd just let it go and let her show the damn thing since another bridesmaid has a tattoo on her ankle and I can't ask one to cover and not the other.  It looks ridiculous, though. Problem # 5 The Bridal Shower My MOH is planning a bridal shower (she had to tell me a date since I live out of state and need to beg for a weekend off from work to drive home). Well, the MOH has been emailing all of the girls in the bridal party asking for any input and ideas they may have. So sister calls the MOH and tells her that one thing that's super important to do: "You need to put somewhere on the invitations that people shouldn't buy the bride any lingerie because her breasts are so large that they won't look right in anything." My MOH was like "are you serious?" And she was. Now, yes, I'm VERY top heavy and lingerie won't fit me properly... but it's something I've always been self conscious of and more than half the people there are going to be from the groom's side. These are people I've never met. I don't want them staring at my freakishly large boobs the first time I meet them! Jesus! So MOH does not put the special note.  Sister gets upset that her idea wasn't used. Calls MOH and leaves a VM complaining about it. MOH calls back and tries to explain that she felt I would be uncomfortable with a message like that. Sister "Well you don't know her like I do!"  So now we add some real animosity to the mix. Problem #6 The Dress Oh, the dress. Well, since the very first day I've known this girl she's been a skinny little thing. Maybe weighing 110 and 5'10". So the wedding is in July and here comes March and she hasn't ordered or dress or anything yet. The place that we purchased the dresses from takes 10-12 weeks. So I call her and tell her that she needs to get the dress taken care of. She goes and gets fitted and orders the dress. 2 weeks ago I go home for a visit and get together with her. She looks great. Honestly. She put on some weight, but it looked very healthy. I asked her what she was doing and she said "I've been pigging out. I've been eating ice cream every night for like a month." This raises a red flag with fiance. "are you gonna fit into your dress?" She says she should. I don't know how big she was when she actually went for her fitting because it had been a good 10 months since I saw her. So her mother says "I don't think it will fit." So last week they go back to the store to try on the size she ordered, just to be on the safe side. Doesn't fit. Doesn't zipper. She gained over 30 lbs since March... this was the first week of May.  They ask about ordering a larger size...No go. Won't be in on time. Even with a rush order it won't be in on time. So I get the phone call Her: "The dress doesn't fit." Me: "No kidding? Um.. Can they get you a bigger size?" Her: "No. They said even with a rush order it won't be ready." Me: "What about if you wore a shaper maybe?" Her: "Still won't work. Zipper doesn't come close." Me: "Ok. Um. Wow. Alright. Is there any way they can maybe take it out some?" Her: "She said they can but it still probably won't fit." Me: " Can they add extra material? I'm not really sure what to do here." Her: "She said they don't have any material to add on, I asked. Do you think i can maybe go to a different store and get a different dress?" Me: "Well... how different of a dress? I mean... I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but I really had my heart set on the way those dresses coordinated together and they worked really well with my dress. I'm scared something from a different store might not match colors right and it'll stand out." Her: "Well, I don't know what to do" and she hangs up. Well.. I don't know what to do either. I mean... I'M NOT HAVING FLOWERS AT MY WEDDING BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE HER. She's going to cough through the whole damn ceremony, her big old eye sore of a tattoo will be showing, did I mention she wanted to dye her hair fire red for the wedding and wear a halo of flowers? You know, the kind children wear when they are flower girls?  Her and my fiance will probably get into a huge argument at some point during the reception, she'll tell anyone that will listen at the reception about the endless list of medical conditions she suffers from and will hit on any breathing male in eyesight- even if his girlfriend or wife is right there! And now she wants to wear a different dress altogether? Come on. Can I at least have some control over my wedding without being the bad guy here? I don't want to tell her to lose weight because she looks HEALTHY. But I don't want her to wear a different dress. These were the dresses I liked from the beginning and there were 4 different styles! It's not like the place ordered the wrong size, she admitted to eating ice cream pretty much every night! So of course she posts on her damn Facebook page about "never thought I'd be on a diet. This sucks"  so people, knowing how thin she is, start commenting asking why she's on a diet. Of course, "Well, I'm in the wedding and I can't fit into my dress and they can't get a new one in time. The bride doesn't want me to wear a different dress." So here comes the bashing of the bridezilla again! All of these people are flipping out talking about what a terrible person I am when I've tried so hard to make everyone comfortable and have a good time.  Again, I picked different dresses for different body types. For shoes? Whatever the hell you want as long as they're white. I don't care if you wear flats, heels, whatever. Whatever you're comfortable in.  Hair and makeup? Up to you. You can put it up, wear it down, get it done, whatever. Nails? Again, if you wanna get them done, great! If not, who cares? Bridesmaid from out of town needs a place to stay? Well, I can't pay for it all, but I'll try to split the hotel bill since you're spending all this money on me anyway. When my MOH told me she was throwing me a shower and needed me to be home for it, I cried and told her she didn't have to do that at all, I wasn't expecting one and am very grateful for it.  I haven't been demanding. I haven't been needy. I've been understanding of everyone's situation and I've really gone out of my way to accommodate people. Now my future sister-in-law is becoming a huge source of stress for me. I don't know what to do because at this point I'm ready to tell her she's out of the wedding, I'll pay for the dress, I don't care anymore. But this is my future sister in law and I don't want to cause a rift in the family. I spoke to my FMIL about some of the issues I was having and she just said "Oh, well, she has problems and you need to just be patient with her." But I HAVE been patient. I really have. (Oh, and while I was talking to the FMIL, sister is in the background eating a giant bowl of ice cream with chocolate syrup and whipped cream [video chat]). She's also very manipulative, so when someone makes her mad she tries to turn people against them (I've seen it with my fiance and one of her ex-friends). I'm worried that if I put my foot down and say no, she'll be pouting at the wedding and telling all of the relatives that she was a bridesmaid and I kicked her out because I wanted her to lose weight.  I told her if she found a dress with the color matching, we might be able to do something... So far all of the colors have been off. So I just don't know what to do.  Obviously planning a wedding is horribly stressful, especially when you are trying to handle a lot of the financial burden and you want to repeatedly hit one of your bridesmaids with a large, heavy object.  So I'm scared that I'm being irrational and just letting the stress come out, but I REALLY don't want her to wear a different dress that doesn't match anything. Am I overreacting? My fiance says "Oh well, she's out of the wedding, end of story." But I just don't want to cause friction between us and his parents. I just want at least ONE thing to go my way with this damn wedding. Ugh, I don't know what to do.   If you made it this far, thank you. This was quite a rant.
    Posted by CharDrahos[/QUOTE]

    Wow.

    Going to attempt to break this down in a secondary post...
  • em01092em01092 member
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    edited May 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_not-sure-nightmare-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:37Discussion:198ddb00-296a-4124-96e0-02d199d2d777Post:f14842e0-925d-4e43-a52e-b0ed6b5532be">Not sure what to do about nightmare bridesmaid.</a>:
    [QUOTE]Okay, this is going to be long. I'm sorry, but I really need the advice.  Here's a little bit of background on the issue: My fiance's sister has always been a little wacky. She's super attention seeking and has all these... umm.. 'quirks' I guess you can call it. She does have a psychiatric history, claiming to have bipolar disorder, OCD, SADs, and whatever other psychiatric condition that she hears about on television. (I know this sounds very insensitive, but as a nurse and someone that grew up around true mental illness, I can honestly testify that she suffers from something called Borderline Personality Disorder and really nothing else. I've witnessed her watching TV commercials where they advertise for psychiatric drugs and she's like "I think I have that!" and will pretty much add it to her list that she tells everyone she comes in contact with about. The more illnesses she has, the more attention she gets.) So when I met my fiance, his sister sort of latched onto me. She is a very nice person, just a little eccentric, so we were friends and would hang out and all that stuff. One day she said to me "When I get married, you'll be my maid of honor. Will I be yours?" and I told her no... it would be my best friend that I grew up with and have known for more than 20 years. She was very hurt by this and started crying. I tried to explain to her that I've only known her for a year and that my maid of honor is practically a sister to me. She said she understood but was very quiet and pouty for a good week or so after this happened. I wasn't even engaged at this point, either. Well, my fiance and his sister do not exactly get along. They are both in their 30s and still fight like children. Honestly, the sister will sit there and pick at him about something and is just absolutely relentless. Then he will usually tell her after 30 minutes of agreeing with her to shut up and a screaming match will ensue. It doesn't matter if this happens in their living room or at a fancy restaurant. She always ends up screaming at him and making a scene until he gets mad and storms out. This also happens EVERY TIME we are together, no matter what the occasion. So he asks me to marry him. Of course I'm very excited and happy and can't wait to get married. We do a videochat with his family (we live 400 miles away) and show the ring to his mom and dad. His sister sees the ring and says congrats. Everyone is happy.  The next day she texted my fiance and asked if we picked out people for the bridal party yet. He said no, but he didn't want siblings in the wedding party.  (I was unaware that he was having this conversation with her.) So I was in the middle of texting someone when she called me... I picked up without realizing it. I stared at my phone for a second not realizing what happened, then it dawned on me that someone had called and I should probably say hello at some point or another. Me: Hello? Her: Hi! I was just wondering if you guys did anything with the bridal party yet? Me: Ummm.... well, I know who my maid of honor is at this point. That's about it for the girls. Her: Oh yeah? Well. So. That's neat. When do you think you'll know your bridesmaids? Me: Not really sure... (I can sense that she's really wanting me to ask her. She starts with a guilt trip.) Her: Yeah... So she's gonna be your maid of honor? Hmm... You know you're my best friend, right?  (At this point I don't know what to do because I was caught completely off guard with the phone call and I know she's trying to get me to ask her to be in the wedding. I want to keep the peace with his parents and all and I know that her mother wanted her in the wedding, but I really didn't think it would be a good idea) Me: Yeah, I guess.  Her: I'm surprised you haven't asked me to be in the wedding yet. Me: I-uh-well-um... *very awkward silence* Me: Well.. I mean, do you want to be a bridesmaid? I know you don't have a job and all and it can be expensive having to pay for some of the stuff, you know? Her: It's okay, I still get a monthly check and mom can help. Me: Oh. I see. Her: So yeah, it's no problem. I'd love to be in your wedding. Wonderful. So then all of the problems started.  <strong>My fiance finds out about all of this. He is furious. He said he told her he didn't want siblings in the wedding because he didn't want her acting up at the wedding and all of that. I'm thinking, hey, how bad can it be? </strong>Problem #1  The cough. She's got a cough. It's hard to explain, but she goes into these weird coughing fits that sound unlike anything I've ever heard before. It doesn't sound like a cough... it sounds like a screech. And they last for about 5 minutes at a time and they happen quite often. If we go out to dinner for an hour and a half there will be at least 6 5 minute coughing fits. So now I'm thinking "what are we gonna do about the cough?"  My fiance thinks the cough is for attention, that it's not real. He says she does it whenever the attention is taken off of her. She was given medication for the cough but she does not take it, claiming it makes her hyper.  He brought the subject up with his mother, letting her know my concerns that she'll cough through the entire ceremony. She says not to worry, she'll make sure she takes the medicine.  The sister finds out about this conversation and of course flies off the handle. Then she quits the wedding and storms upstairs.  At this point my fiance says "Fine. I'm not begging her to be in this, I don't even want her in this. Oh well. Done and over with, problem solved." FMIL starts crying, sister crying. Sister wants back in the wedding. FMIL starts begging, so I get involved and say "Listen, neither of you guys can carry on a conversation for more than 8 minutes without a giant fight happening. It'll always be that way. But I cannot have you in and out of the wedding with every fight. This is it. You're either in or out. If you quit again you're done." So as of this point, she's in. Problem #2 The Flowers Well. I have allergies. Bad allergies. She has allergies. Bad allergies. I usually take Claritin-D in the AM, Benadryl in the evening, and get 2 allergy shots a week.  She started getting allergy shots but stopped going to her appointments (my theory is they made her feel better and that wouldn't give her attention). So she hasn't had an allergy shot in over 2 years. She owns two cats, too (she says she's allergic to cats). She does not take anything orally for allergies. She sends me a text with a little suggestion. "I was thinking. 4 ur wedding u should get silk flowers. The real flowers will bother my allergies a lot so i dont know what u'll do about the bouquets" Ugh. My response  "I was planning on just having regular bouquets."  Hers "Well thats gonna bother my allergies. Thats like me making u hold a cat for 45 minutes knowing how allergic u are, you know?" You've gotta be kidding me. My response "Well maybe I can look into get you silk flowers for your bouquet." Hers "well even so ill still have everyone elses bouquet around me. maybe u should just get all silk flowers" Me: "Well... I wanted to have real flower bouquets." Her: "well i dont know what im gonna do then" Ok. No flowers at my wedding I guess? That's kind of weird. So I'm trying to be understanding about everything and decide to look around and see if I can find options for flowers. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt because honestly, if someone made me sit in a room with a cat or hold a cat for 45 minutes, my skin would be in a burning rash and I'd be desperate for an inhaler to relieve my asthma. I mean, I think she should take medication and maybe start getting her shots again, but that seems unrealistic at this point. So I actually found a nice alternative to flower bouquets that seemed to work out well. They were a lot cheaper and very unique, so things seem okay at this point. Problem #3 Passive-aggressive gripes about money When I chose my bridesmaids dresses, I put a lot of thought into different factors. Each bridesmaid has a different body type, so they will all not be comfortable wearing the same thing. I looked at prices and comfort, because I didn't want to cost the ladies a fortune.  So I found this very cute dress selection that has different styles that all coordinate together. It's pretty much the same dress except there's a halter, spaghetti straps, strapless, boatneck, and one comes with a little jacket thing. So all of the bridesmaids loved these dresses... and they cost $79.99 a piece. I didn't think that was a bad price considering some of the dresses were over $400. <strong>Well, before she bought her dress we went to the mall... she spent over $400 in one store alone</strong>. She bought stuff from 2 other stores, too, but I don't know how much she spent because I stayed on a bench while she shopped. She usually goes on a yearly retreat for one of her 'conditions' so someone posted on her Facebook page asking whether or not she was going. "No, I'm going to be in my brother's and best friend's wedding, so that's costing me a fortune since I have to buy my own dress and pay for everything myself." Then all of the comments on the thing start.  "Why doesn't the bride pay for the dress?" "Ew, I wouldn't be in a wedding where the bride made me pay, that's insane!" "Tell that bridezilla to pick a reasonable dress or maybe split the cost." Um, excuse me, what? I thought my dresses were very reasonably priced and I told her beforehand that she would need to pay for things. If I could buy everyone's dress, I would, but I'm trying to pay for the rest of the wedding here on top of all of my other bills! I'm a full time student and I've been working close to 80 hours a week doing double shifts in the hospital to make enough money to afford what I can and she just sits home collecting a government check every month and living off of her parents (Who paid for her dress, by the way.) So I was a little hurt by these strangers calling me a bridezilla (I'm really not.) and I left a comment saying "I didn't think buying the dress would be such a burden. Especially because you were able to afford over $400 worth of clothes at (whatever the stores name was) and the dress was only $79.99. I thought that when we talked about you being in the wedding party and you said you had no problem paying for things that it was okay."   Needless to say the whole post was deleted. Problem #4 Tattoos  Hey, I'm all for tattoos. I don't have an issue with people who have them.  But she asked me if I wanted her to cover her tattoo (On her left shoulder blade). I told her that since her dress had a little jacket with it that it should cover the tattoo so I don't see it being an issue. Then she asked about the tattoo on her foot... well, it's maybe the size of a quarter and hardly noticeable. So I told her exactly that and said she should be fine. By the end of the week she's posting pictures of her brand new tattoo all over facebook. The tattoo covers her foot and goes halfway up her leg. (This tattoo cost her $150, mind you.) So not that I'm really a blowhard when it comes to tattoos but... I mean, come on. I figured I'd just let it go and let her show the damn thing since another bridesmaid has a tattoo on her ankle and I can't ask one to cover and not the other. <strong> It looks ridiculous, though. </strong>Problem # 5 The Bridal Shower My MOH is planning a bridal shower (she had to tell me a date since I live out of state and need to beg for a weekend off from work to drive home). Well, the MOH has been emailing all of the girls in the bridal party asking for any input and ideas they may have. So sister calls the MOH and tells her that one thing that's super important to do: "You need to put somewhere on the invitations that people shouldn't buy the bride any lingerie because her breasts are so large that they won't look right in anything." My MOH was like "are you serious?" And she was. Now, yes, I'm VERY top heavy and lingerie won't fit me properly... but it's something I've always been self conscious of and more than half the people there are going to be from the groom's side. These are people I've never met. I don't want them staring at my freakishly large boobs the first time I meet them! Jesus! So MOH does not put the special note.  Sister gets upset that her idea wasn't used. Calls MOH and leaves a VM complaining about it. MOH calls back and tries to explain that she felt I would be uncomfortable with a message like that. Sister "Well you don't know her like I do!"  So now we add some real animosity to the mix. Problem #6 The Dress Oh, the dress. Well, since the very first day I've known this girl she's been a skinny little thing. Maybe weighing 110 and 5'10". So the wedding is in July and here comes March and she hasn't ordered or dress or anything yet. The place that we purchased the dresses from takes 10-12 weeks. So I call her and tell her that she needs to get the dress taken care of. She goes and gets fitted and orders the dress. 2 weeks ago I go home for a visit and get together with her. She looks great. Honestly. She put on some weight, but it looked very healthy. I asked her what she was doing and she said "I've been pigging out. I've been eating ice cream every night for like a month." This raises a red flag with fiance. "are you gonna fit into your dress?" She says she should. I don't know how big she was when she actually went for her fitting because it had been a good 10 months since I saw her. So her mother says "I don't think it will fit." So last week they go back to the store to try on the size she ordered, just to be on the safe side. Doesn't fit. Doesn't zipper. She gained over 30 lbs since March... this was the first week of May.  They ask about ordering a larger size...No go. Won't be in on time. Even with a rush order it won't be in on time. So I get the phone call Her: "The dress doesn't fit." Me: "No kidding? Um.. Can they get you a bigger size?" Her: "No. They said even with a rush order it won't be ready." Me: "What about if you wore a shaper maybe?" Her: "Still won't work. Zipper doesn't come close." Me: "Ok. Um. Wow. Alright. Is there any way they can maybe take it out some?" Her: "She said they can but it still probably won't fit." Me: " Can they add extra material? I'm not really sure what to do here." Her: "She said they don't have any material to add on, I asked. Do you think i can maybe go to a different store and get a different dress?" Me: "Well... how different of a dress? I mean... I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but I really had my heart set on the way those dresses coordinated together and they worked really well with my dress. I'm scared something from a different store might not match colors right and it'll stand out." Her: "Well, I don't know what to do" and she hangs up. Well.. I don't know what to do either. I mean... I'M NOT HAVING FLOWERS AT MY WEDDING BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE HER. She's going to cough through the whole damn ceremony, her big old eye sore of a tattoo will be showing, did I mention she wanted to dye her hair fire red for the wedding and wear a halo of flowers? You know, the kind children wear when they are flower girls?  Her and my fiance will probably get into a huge argument at some point during the reception, she'll tell anyone that will listen at the reception about the endless list of medical conditions she suffers from and will hit on any breathing male in eyesight- even if his girlfriend or wife is right there! And now she wants to wear a different dress altogether? Come on. Can I at least have some control over my wedding without being the bad guy here? I don't want to tell her to lose weight because she looks HEALTHY. But I don't want her to wear a different dress. These were the dresses I liked from the beginning and there were 4 different styles! It's not like the place ordered the wrong size, she admitted to eating ice cream pretty much every night! So of course she posts on her damn Facebook page about "never thought I'd be on a diet. This sucks"  so people, knowing how thin she is, start commenting asking why she's on a diet. Of course, "Well, I'm in the wedding and I can't fit into my dress and they can't get a new one in time. The bride doesn't want me to wear a different dress." So here comes the bashing of the bridezilla again! All of these people are flipping out talking about what a terrible person I am when I've tried so hard to make everyone comfortable and have a good time.  Again, I picked different dresses for different body types. For shoes? Whatever the hell you want as long as they're white. I don't care if you wear flats, heels, whatever. Whatever you're comfortable in.  Hair and makeup? Up to you. You can put it up, wear it down, get it done, whatever. Nails? Again, if you wanna get them done, great! If not, who cares? Bridesmaid from out of town needs a place to stay? Well, I can't pay for it all, but I'll try to split the hotel bill since you're spending all this money on me anyway. When my MOH told me she was throwing me a shower and needed me to be home for it, I cried and told her she didn't have to do that at all, I wasn't expecting one and am very grateful for it.  I haven't been demanding. I haven't been needy. I've been understanding of everyone's situation and I've really gone out of my way to accommodate people. Now my future sister-in-law is becoming a huge source of stress for me. I don't know what to do because at this point I'm ready to tell her she's out of the wedding, I'll pay for the dress, I don't care anymore. But this is my future sister in law and I don't want to cause a rift in the family. I spoke to my FMIL about some of the issues I was having and she just said "Oh, well, she has problems and you need to just be patient with her." But I HAVE been patient. I really have. (Oh, and while I was talking to the FMIL, sister is in the background eating a giant bowl of ice cream with chocolate syrup and whipped cream [video chat]). She's also very manipulative, so when someone makes her mad she tries to turn people against them (I've seen it with my fiance and one of her ex-friends). I'm worried that if I put my foot down and say no, she'll be pouting at the wedding and telling all of the relatives that she was a bridesmaid and I kicked her out because I wanted her to lose weight.  I told her if she found a dress with the color matching, we might be able to do something... So far all of the colors have been off. So I just don't know what to do.  Obviously planning a wedding is horribly stressful, especially when you are trying to handle a lot of the financial burden and you want to repeatedly hit one of your bridesmaids with a large, heavy object.  So I'm scared that I'm being irrational and just letting the stress come out, but I REALLY don't want her to wear a different dress that doesn't match anything. Am I overreacting? My fiance says "Oh well, she's out of the wedding, end of story." But I just don't want to cause friction between us and his parents. I just want at least ONE thing to go my way with this damn wedding. Ugh, I don't know what to do.   If you made it this far, thank you. This was quite a rant.
    Posted by CharDrahos[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Your FI should be mad. He told you he didn't want siblings in the wedding and you went behind his back and caved. I know it was awkward and weird, but YOU gave in. You cannot do this in a marriage. If you and him decide on something, that is what you decide. You talk about it together and come to a conclusion. Too late for this issue, but you should try to work on this in the future. </div><div>
    </div><div>How she spends her money is not your concern, unfortunately. Yes, she is being a little weird, but people gain weight. It happens. I don't know what to tell you other than you are going to have to let her wear another dress if she is to be in the WP. I agree that kicking her out would be a bad move for your family. Your FI knew stuff like this would happen and he tried to stop  you, but you made her a BM anyway. Kicking her out would be bad news bears. I know your FI is not close with her, but you're right about it causing problems. </div><div>
    </div><div>So yeah this sucks. </div><div> </div><div>Edit: Kelly is right, I guess she has in fact removed herself by not getting the right dress. That was her one major job, besides showing up sober and smiling for pictures. </div><div>
    </div><div>I mean, would I put up with this crap? No, I'd be done and over it. But you're right about her being in the family forever and I see why you want to try and keep some aspect of peace. However, unless you are ok with her in a different dress, she's out it looks like. </div><div>
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  • em01092em01092 member
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    edited May 2011
    Summary for other posters:

    FSIL does not get along with FI. FSIL asked OP to be BM and OP caved even though FI was against the idea. FSIL has coughing fits and allergies and can't be around flowers. FSIL is complaining about not being able to afford the BM dress (~$80) but spends lots of money on other things so OP is upset. FSIL got a tattoo that OP thinks looks bad and so OP is upset, but is getting over it. FSIL made an inappropriate comment about the bridal shower invites/the OP being top-heavy. FSIL outgrew her dress and the store cannot order another in time so she needs to wear a different dress and the OP does not want her to. FI wants to kick FSIL out of the WP but OP is afraid this will cause problems. 
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  • "My fiance's sister has always been a little wacky. She's super attention seeking and has all these... "
    It sounds like you've known all a long that she's this way. People don't change simply because you're getting married...

    "(At this point I don't know what to do because I was caught completely off guard with the phone call and I know she's trying to get me to ask her to be in the wedding. I want to keep the peace with his parents and all and I know that her mother wanted her in the wedding, but I really didn't think it would be a good idea)"
    Then you should have stuck to your guns that the wedding party hadn't been decided on yet and lef tit at that. No one can FORCE you to pick them. She didn't have a gun to your or your FI's head, nor did your FMIL.

    "Problem #1 

    The cough.... He brought the subject up with his mother, letting her know my concerns that she'll cough through the entire ceremony."
    I'm going to assume this is another one of those "you've know about this for a while..." type things. This also has really nothing to do with her standing up for you as a BM - I'm assuming she'll be an invited guest, regardless, and thus will be there to cough (or not cough) throughout the entire ceremony anyway. I have no suggestions, other than to have FI ask your FMIL if FSIL will kindly remove herself from the area in which the ceremony is taking place if one of these fits occurs so as not to disturb the ceremony or other guests.

    Problem #2
    The Flowers
    It sounds like you've solved this problem yourself... and I can't really blame FSIL for being concerned. If it were any other BM with the concern, would this have been an issue at all? Or is it just because you and your FSIL have such an odd relationship that it's suddenly so tragic? Many brides are opting for silk flowers these days - they are often comparable in price and last forever.

    "Problem #3
    Passive-aggressive gripes about money
    When I chose my bridesmaids dresses, I put a lot of thought into different factors. Each bridesmaid has a different body type, so they will all not be comfortable wearing the same thing. I looked at prices and comfort, because I didn't want to cost the ladies a fortune.  So I found this very cute dress selection that has different styles that all coordinate together. It's pretty much the same dress except there's a halter, spaghetti straps, strapless, boatneck, and one comes with a little jacket thing. So all of the bridesmaids loved these dresses... and they cost $79.99 a piece. I didn't think that was a bad price considering some of the dresses were over $400. Well, before she bought her dress we went to the mall... she spent over $400 in one store alone. She bought stuff from 2 other stores, too, but I don't know how much she spent because I stayed on a bench while she shopped"
    Did you ask your BM's what they could afford before shopping? No, $79.99 is not, IMO, a bad price for a BM dress... but that is still quite a sum of money. That's almost an entire paycheck for me, and I'm a FT student with student loans, CC debt, and looking to purchase a house with FI. $400 for a BM dress is ridiculous.

    "I left a comment saying "I didn't think buying the dress would be such a burden. Especially because you were able to afford over $400 worth of clothes at (whatever the stores name was) and the dress was only $79.99. I thought that when we talked about you being in the wedding party and you said you had no problem paying for things that it was okay."   Needless to say the whole post was deleted."
    This comment is very inappropriate, and was not necessary on your part. You should have messaged her privately or called her, rather than posting it publicly and stooping to her level - which clearly irks you. While it is okay to be upset that she is griping to people about not having money because of your wedding (especially when she does seem to be doing so in such a passive-aggressive manner), but it is NOT okay to judge how she spends her money. Because it's just that - HERS.

    "By the end of the week she's posting pictures of her brand new tattoo all over facebook. The tattoo covers her foot and goes halfway up her leg. (This tattoo cost her $150, mind you.) So not that I'm really a blowhard when it comes to tattoos but... I mean, come on. I figured I'd just let it go and let her show the damn thing since another bridesmaid has a tattoo on her ankle and I can't ask one to cover and not the other.  It looks ridiculous, though."
    Once again, it is not up to you to decide what she spends her money on. I also find your judgement of her new ink a little off-putting. FI has tattoos on both legs, as well as full sleeves that extend onto his hands... would I get them like he has? No. But it's not my place to judge his decision to do so, just as it is not your place to judge your FSIL's. But you are correct - if you ask one BM to cover her tattoos, you must ask all of them to do so. Especially since it seems your FSIL would make a scene of it if she was the only one asked to do so.

    The bridal shower/no lingerie comment
    Yeah. That's just weird and inappropriate. Can I ask how old FSIL is?

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    If she fails to get the right dress (or cannot fit into it), then she has removed herself from the wedding party. It sounds like you've tried to be fairly accomodating to her situation. Has she tried taking the dress to an independent seamstress? Sometimes they are able to do things that bridal salons claim they can't do (after all, the bridal salon will make more money if she has to buy a whole new dress).


    She sounds like a PITA, and I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. But it also sounds like this is typical behavior for her that you and FI should not have expected to change just because you're getting married. It's unfortunate, but that's reality.

    Overall, you and your FI need to sit down and have a serious chat, figure out what needs to be done, and HE needs to deal with this, since it's his family.
  • OP, I'm sorry you're dealing with this. She does sound like a PITA and you seem to have tried to be accomodating - I can see issues on both sides.

    I feel like I need to defend you a little... PPs, you keep saying OP went behind fiance's back to ask FSIL to be a BM. Thats not how I read it. I read that as a convo the FI had with FSIL, that OP wasn't aware of.

    So when FSIL came to her, she had no knowledge of that conversation and felt like she had to agree.

    Am I reading that right?
  • Wow, she sounds like a gem. I think that she removed her self from the wedding by no longer being able to wear her bridesmaids dress. Its not like it was damaged by an act of God. She made the choice to eat riduculasly and our grow her dress. The only thing a bridesmaid is required to do is show up IN THE RIGHT DRESS and smile for pictures. If she can't wear the dress, then she can't be in the wedding. Maybe ask her to be a reader or help you with last minute stuff the day off as a personal attendent?
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  • Wow really sucks and I feel for you, OP. I agree with the PP that when she outgrew her dress, she outgrew her right to be a BM. You have been so understanding and trying to accomodating to everyone. I agree that since you knew about it since the beginning that you shouldn't have been surprised BUT it's done and over with. Definitely talk with the fi about it and have him handle his family. GL!

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  • The next day she texted my fiance and asked if we picked out people for the bridal party yet. He said no, but he didn't want siblings in the wedding party.  (I was unaware that he was having this conversation with her.)

    OP was not aware that her FI had just talked to her and told her this. It sounds like OP was caught off guard, which lets be honest, we all have been at some point and kind of got stuck agreing to things that we didn't want to.

    I do aware that OP is a little judgy in her post (i.e. tattoo comments, spending comments etc) but I also think OP has really tried to be accomdating and work through most of the problems. I agree with OP that it honestly does sound like Borderline Personality disorder, not gonna lie, which means that no matter what OP does FSIL is going to make OP out to be the bad person again and again. OP can accomodate until she is blue in the face but FSIL will find another way for drama. But, with that, it is FSIL and you will have a relatonship with her at some point for another. I'm not quite sure what to do about the dress situation. Is there a store near you that can order it maybe or something and rush it?
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  • She went behind your FI's back and weazeled her way into the BP.  You have accomodated her at every step of othe way and she just comes up with a new idea.  Ice cream every night?  Really?  What a delish way to get in the spotlight again.

    You and FI need to sit down and talk.  And agree with pp that you need to quit talking to your FMIL about these things.  She enables her daughter so your discussion will do no good.

    You guys need to make the decision - is she in or out?  I would have been patient with her to a point, but I would not have gone the distance you have.

    If she is out what is she likely to do at your wedding?  If she is in, she needs a dress.  It is way past time for a come to Jesus meeting with her.  I'm going to guess in all her days no one has ever looked her in they eye and said "I know what you are doing here" and called her on her actions.  She may have some mental issues, but she needs to be called on the carpet at some point.  Mommy won't always be there.

    You guys need to make the right decision for your married life, not just your wedding day.  consider what she is likely to do if she is out, what will happen if she remains in the wedding, and what can you deal with the most.

    FI needs to have a chat with his mom because she is walking all over you and you are letting her.

    I hope you will come back and let us know what happens.  Good luck.
  • Wow, she is a nightmare.  But she kicked herself out by not getting a dress that would fit.  That's her fault not yours.  I would count yourself lucky that she outed herself, and you did not have to kick her out.  Atleast now, you're free of her being in your wedding party and if she wants to whine and complain, then fine.  If she has issues like you say, then everyone else will understand that anything coming from her will have a second side.
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    You're right, I did misunderstand OP with regards to the issue with her FI. It wasn't that she went behind his back, but rather just did not talk about things prior.  My bad. =D

    OP: Still, I think you should have at least talked with him before you agreed to let her in. Did you know anything about how your FI felt with regards to wedding party size, people in mind, etc? That just seems like something you should be on the same page about. Not to say that you have to have even numbers or anything, but just to be sure you're considering what the other person had in mind. 

    You knew she was a piece of work, so does it surprise you that this happened? lol  If you had simply said, "Well I FI and I are still discussing things right now" the first time she asked you about it (that convo after she spoke with your FI, and went behind his back) all of this could have been avoided. 

    But I realize what's done is done and I think you were beyond nice about all accommodations. You did a lot to try and make things work for her, so I do commend you on that. It's more than I would have done for sure. 
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  • ooooomg the lingerie thing just pisses me off... I mean.. some stuff is annoying, but that one would have sent me through the roof (I'm a bigger boobed chick too).  If ANYONE said something like that to me I seriously... wow.. lol. Ok. I know this is a meaningless, useless post. I just feel for you and wanted to tell you that I'm sorry you're having to deal with dumb drama.  :(
  • My fiance spoke to her when she asked him. I was UNAWARE of the conversation. My fiance and I didn't discuss her being in the wedding. She asked him and he told her no, then asked me without my knowledge of the conversation.
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    [QUOTE]My fiance spoke to her when she asked him. I was UNAWARE of the conversation. My fiance and I didn't discuss her being in the wedding. She asked him and he told her no, then asked me without my knowledge of the conversation.
    Posted by CharDrahos[/QUOTE]

    <div>I know, I get that now. I'm sorry for misunderstanding and making you look bad in that regard.</div><div>
    </div><div> But what I'm saying is regardless, I would have still suggested that you discuss your WP plans with your FI prior to saying yes to her. Did you know how he felt about having a WP in general, regardless of her? What if FI wanted no WP? What if he wanted 12 people per side? It just seems like maybe you just hadn't discussed what either of you wanted yet so IMO it was a little early to be naming people members. </div><div>
    </div><div>Even though you didn't know she went behind your FIs back, you still knew she was crazy and that she and your FI were not close and don't get along. You didn't have to say yes to her, though I totally understand why you did. That was weird and awkward of her to ask like she did, so I can't say I blame you for caving, but you did. </div><div>
    </div><div>So yeah, my bad on my PP. And lucky for you none of this matters anymore. I'd be so relieved. Just clarifying my point. </div>
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  • She sounds like a real peach. Neither of you want her in the wedding so i would just tell her unless she can fit into the dress on the day of the wedding then she can just be a guest. If she starts any drama at the wedding just have her removed. You will never please everyone and more often than not there will be that one person that trys to make it all about them. React differently, do not deal with her. 
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  • This whole situation really sucks, lol. I feel the need to clarify things a little, or provide more info.
    She's 32 years old and lives at home with her folks. The reason why I talk to her mom about these issues is because her mom is her POA, and when sister-in-law ever has any issue, she usually discusses it with mom and has mom talk to whoever she's having the issue with.  Sister can be very defensive and sensitive, usually flies off the handle and starts crying and talking about killing herself and all that jazz, so me telling her she can't cough would've caused a huge problem. Her mother knows the best ways to handle her, so mom usually handles any issues like this with her.

    As far as me being judgmental? Well, I can understand why it sounds like that but I'm really not. I honest to God don't care about tattoos... my fiance has one on his forearm. No issue. My issue was with her asking me if she needed to cover her tattoos with me explaining that since she will be covered by the dress and the one on her foot was small, no. Then she went and got this large foot/leg tattoo.  As far as her spending? I don't care how she spends her money. My issue is with her complaining to everyone that will listen that she can't afford to do anything because she's in our wedding and had to buy the dress and all that crap.  I picked very affordable dresses and for her to complain about not being able to do stuff while she's dropping all sorts of money on clothes, purses, tattoos and all that stuff really irked me.  It's like she's going out of her way to make me look/feel bad. I told her when she asked to be in the wedding that she would be paying for a dress and she said she had no problem with it. 

    I know that I didn't have to say yes to her, but when someone puts you on the spot like that and takes you completely off guard, it's very hard to say no. Especially knowing how upset she would be. She would tell all of her relatives about what a jerk I am and all sorts of stuff, and the last thing I want is for my fiance's entire family to think I'm some sort of monster.  I knew there would probably be a few headaches associated with it, but I didn't think it would be this bad. 

    People with BPD are usually very manipulative and very attention seeking. They always have to somehow be the center of attention. With her, she loves to play the victim role. If she can't fit into the dress and I don't let her get a new dress (which she wants so she can be different from everyone else) she'll be sulking the whole reception and telling every person that she possibly can that she was supposed to be in the wedding but I kicked her out because she wouldn't lose weight. She'll spin the situation to make me look like a horrible person and she'll be the innocent victim. So it's one of them situations where it's a rock and a hard place.  My fiance told me that I need to stand my ground with this, and he told his mother that if she can't fit in the dress she's out. Mom is assuring that she'll fit, but I'm very very doubtful. Especially because she's not really making any effort to stop eating junk food at 2am. 

    I'm usually a very laid back person, I promise. I've been calm and collected through this whole process. I've been working 16 hour shifts and my very stressful job, taking 15 credits in school, and trying to plan a wedding that will take place in a different state, 400 miles away. I've been holding it together with everything so far, have really compromised a lot with people (her, really), but I feel like she's making me crazy at this point. My MOH thinks I'm crazy for putting up with all this and says she thinks I'm going to snap and go crazy on the sister in front of everyone and I'll look like one of them nutjob brides they always show on TV.  I feel like the whole thing is just lose-lose. 
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  • This might get me some negative responses, but I'd kick her behind out of my wedding.  Anyone who really knows you, and her (ie the people who she will be talking to at the reception) already know all about how she is and will just take her ranting with a grain of salt.  Besides, how bad is she going to look bad mouthing the bride at her wedding?  And I'd be willing to bet your FI will defend you if it gets out of hand. 

    Above all, this is YOUR DAY!!  Have the flowers if you want them and if she can't handle them say "Well I am sorry but this is what I want and I'll be happy to provide you with an allergy pill."  If she doesn't accept, she's out. 

    The dress...I'd kill to find my girls a dress that cheap!  If she wants to bitch about it, again, then tell her "I'm sorry you feel you can't afford the dress I have choosen."  That's it.  No offer to find something different, no offer to help, no comment about her spending nothing.  And if she can't fit into it and there is no option to replace the SAME DRESS your other BMs are wearing, she's out.  Enough said.

    Again, I can't stress this enough, this is YOUR DAY!!  This is the celebration of your relationship and love with your FI, not his sister.  You sound like you have enough to worry about, say just tell her, and your FMIL that while you love them both and hope this doesn't ruin your families relationship, you simply can not have your FSIL in your wedding.  Don't feel you have to defend yourself, just say that's that....
  • I feel like kicking her out would just be a huge relief in one way, but it will cause more stress in another way. I figured that her relatives probably get how she is, but who knows? My fiance thinks that she bad mouths him to relatives, too. There are some family members that he's very close with but most of his cousins he really has no communication with. He thinks that they don't really talk because the sister bashes him to them and they think he's a horrible person. The thing is, I've seen her in action. She doesn't outright badmouth someone. She'll talk about the person or something the person did, and very subtly say things that make the person look like a complete douche. She does it in such a casual way that it doesn't seem like she's talking smack about a person, but it definitely makes the person look bad. 

    I don't know. The dress was just kind of the last straw for me. It's just a number of things added up and I think the whole wedding stress is coming to the surface now that it's getting so close. And I know that people have commented saying I knew she was like this, but I can assure you- she was always eccentric/whacky. I knew that. I wouldn't expect anything different from her. But right now I feel like this is something more than her usual self. I can deal with her little quirks, I have for years now, but these are not her typical quirks.  People gain weight, I get that. I can throw on 30 lbs REAL quick... it's just the fact that she's always weighed the same since I've met her. After the dress fitting she gains 30 lbs? Come on, now. When I'm going to be participating in something like this where I have to order a dress, I watch what I'm eating. This is the first time I've ever seen her gain any sort of weight and of course it's after she orders the dress. Again, I think she looks great with the weight on and would never tell her to lose weight, but I'm stuck in a bind here. My fiance thinks it's a sabotage attempt lol. It's just the icing on the cake. I'm just scared something is going to set me off at the wedding.

    When I've been to weddings before I tend to notice things that I find odd or negative about the experience. Like the food being terrible or the music being too loud or too low. Or if something odd is going on.  I feel like at my wedding people will be saying 
    "Did you hear that bridesmaid coughing like that? The one that had the dress that looked off? Wasn't that ridiculous? And wasn't it crazy when the bride started hitting her repeatedly with her shoe? That was crazy!" 
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  • Thank you for your response. Someone up above was saying I was being judgmental about all of this crap, so I was just addressing that. 

    As far as my fiance explaining things to his sister/mother... Him and his sister don't really get along that great anymore because he won't put up with her garbage at all. They usually end up in a huge screaming match and it's always a huge nightmare. Any time he tries to talk to her about something that she does it becomes this huge "YOU'RE ATTACKING ME!" thing. Whatta nightmare.
    So last night him and I got into a huge fight over a sandwich which ended with me yelling something along the lines of "YOU'RE SISTER IS TRYING TO SABOTAGE EVERYTHING AND I FXXXING HATE HER!"
    While I was at work (I worked night shift last night) he called his mother and had a serious heart to heart with her about my recent mental breakdowns related to his sister. She says "Don't worry, she'll fit in the dress. She won't get another one. I'm gonna take her to the doctors so she can get cough medicine. She'll just have to deal with it if she doesn't like the side effects." So I'm hoping that she is right. Again, I'm doubtful.

    Oh, and someone mentioned above about if it were a different bridesmaid would the flower thing but such a tragedy... Weddings typically have flowers. Not even elaborate decor, but the bouquets at least. If one of my bridesmaids brought up the concern about allergies and flowers, I would pretty much react the same way- a little upset but understanding.  Imagine having an idea in your head about something that you felt is essential to your wedding then someone more or less telling you that you have to change it. Most brides would flip their lid about it and not do it. I didn't, I said I understood and did what I could to fix the situation. So I don't think I made this a tragedy at all, it just sucked that I can't have flowers at my wedding. I didn't give her an attitude about it at all, I told her I understood but was irritated on the inside. I mentioned the flowers to kind of give background to some of the things I was dealing with because of her.

    A POA is Power of Attorney. She handles everything with her medical issues and all so she knows everything that's going on with her. Her mom is also pretty much involved in everything the sister does and every decision made with the sister. 

    Oh, btw, your dog is adorable. I have 2 wieniesSmile 

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  • These are sabotage attempts. She is testing you, looking for any way possible to throw snags into the process to see what you'll do. This is mentally ill behavior. I'd let her family, especially FMIL, run interference from now on. Ultimately this is their problem, not yours. I'm sure your FMIL doesn't want to see her son's wedding ruined and will do everything she can to keep FSIL from embarrassing herself and the family.
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    [QUOTE]Oh, and what is a POA?
    Posted by LucyHC[/QUOTE]
    Power of Attorney.<div>
    </div><div>And OP, you've bent over backwards the whole way.  The one thing that's repeatedly said here is that all a BM has to do is buy the dress and show up wearing it.  Well, if she can't be wearing it, she's done for.  Don't kick her out.  If she can't wear the dress that day, she's kicked herself out.</div>
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  • OP- You're getting some good feedback but I know you're just stuck.
    Here's one thing I learned about Borderline Personality disorder. I work as a mental heatlh counselor and take a lot of trainings on BPD. The biggest thing to remember that is usually the HARDEST thing to do, is to remember what they are doing isn't manipulation to hurt you per se, it's just the only way they know how to be (if that makes sense). Basically, she is that way because of the personality disorder, and in her mind thats the only way she knows how to be. Especially if she doesn't get any kind of counseling to manage some of the behaviors. It sounds like she doesn't get any.  Just keep doing the best you can with this. You're right  that your MIL might not follow through, especially since she does enable her, but she might surprise you. I wish you the best of luck. I know it's tough on you.
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  • We're I in this situation I'd kick her out and say to hell with what she may tell people. Then again...I've had to show chest x-rays to prove I have a heart, so... You've done everything you possibly can to accommodate her and it's still turned out this way. You and your FH deserve to have the wedding you both want; a day that's focused on your love for one another and starting your life together. *Not* a day that's ruined by your FSIL and her drama. If she's gonna bad mouth you anyway maybe it'd be worth just saying she's not invited at all. Just my $0.02.
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    [QUOTE]This might get me some negative responses, but I'd kick her behind out of my wedding.  Anyone who really knows you, and her (ie the people who she will be talking to at the reception) already know all about how she is and will just take her ranting with a grain of salt.  Besides, how bad is she going to look bad mouthing the bride at her wedding?  And I'd be willing to bet your FI will defend you if it gets out of hand. <strong> Above all, this is YOUR DAY!!</strong>  <strong><u>Have the flowers if you want them and if she can't handle them say "Well I am sorry but this is what I want and I'll be happy to provide you with an allergy pill."  If she doesn't accept, she's out.</u></strong>  The dress...I'd kill to find my girls a dress that cheap!  If she wants to bitch about it, again, then tell her "I'm sorry you feel you can't afford the dress I have choosen."  That's it.  No offer to find something different, no offer to help, no comment about her spending nothing.  And if she can't fit into it and there is no option to replace the SAME DRESS your other BMs are wearing, she's out.  Enough said. <strong>Again, I can't stress this enough, this is YOUR DAY!!</strong>  This is the celebration of your relationship and love with your FI, not his sister.  You sound like you have enough to worry about, say just tell her, and your FMIL that while you love them both and hope this doesn't ruin your families relationship, you simply can not have your FSIL in your wedding.  Don't feel you have to defend yourself, just say that's that....
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    *facepalm*

    Do NOT follow this advice. It seems you are concerned with keeping the peace (and understandbly so), and any/all of the above is only going to cause you a bigger headache in the long run.

    It sounds like you've come to terms with the flower issue - as I said before, MANY brides these days are choosing alternatives to fresh flowers, which are expensive and do not keep long. Silk flowers are a fantastic alternative (you can keep them forever), and I've also seen some "wooden" flowers mentioned here that are actually quite amazing. Telling her to suck it up and that you'll "provide her an allergy pill" is going to do NOTHING to help your situation.


    And it ceases to be "all about you" when you ask people into a wedding party and invite guests. Then you become hosts and must act as such. [FTR, I don't believe you have this attitude, OP, but I do feel this needed to be addressed since the comment was made.]


    As I said earlier, the dress seems to be the final straw, so to speak. If she cannot fit into it, she's removed herself from the wedding. End of story. People will understand, I promise, especially if they are aware that this is just the way she is.
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    [QUOTE]Applause to you for not beating her senseless. If she were my future sister in law, my wedding would probably take place in jail for having knocked her teeth out.
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    agreed.
  • Wow...I too read your whole post and was entertained/outraged. I have concerns (albeit mild compared to yours) and just hope and pray that your FSIL can tame her behavior for ONE day. If the dress doesn't fit, she's out. She can't blame you or anyone else for what she's done. You didn't make her ice cream every night and force feed it to her.
  •  And it ceases to be "all about you" when you ask people into a wedding party and invite guests. Then you become hosts and must act as such. [FTR, I don't believe you have this attitude, OP, but I do feel this needed to be addressed since the comment was made.] As I said earlier, the dress seems to be the final straw, so to speak. If she cannot fit into it, she's removed herself from the wedding. End of story. People will understand, I promise, especially if they are aware that this is just the way she is.
    Posted by KellyBrian2013[/QUOTE]


    Yeah, I totally understand that. I don't want it to be all about me, lol. I like things to be as low key and laid back as possible. I don't need people compromising their comfort or even walking on eggshells around me just because I'm the one wearing the wedding dress.  The day is for our families and friends to celebrate with us. Not a ME ME ME fest. People keep reminding me that I'll be the center of attention, which makes me very uneasy, actually, haha. I'm terrified of walking down the aisle, simply because everyone's eyes will probably be on me and knowing how I typically am I will probably trip and maybe break a tooth on one of the pews. Hopefully if that happens it'll get a good laugh, though. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_not-sure-nightmare-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:37Discussion:198ddb00-296a-4124-96e0-02d199d2d777Post:99d0012a-9eee-41a1-95e7-f165ebc7d99d">Re: Not sure what to do about nightmare bridesmaid.</a>:
    [QUOTE]  Yeah, I totally understand that. I don't want it to be all about me, lol. I like things to be as low key and laid back as possible. I don't need people compromising their comfort or even walking on eggshells around me just because I'm the one wearing the wedding dress.  The day is for our families and friends to celebrate with us. Not a ME ME ME fest. People keep reminding me that I'll be the center of attention, which makes me very uneasy, actually, haha. I'm terrified of walking down the aisle, simply because everyone's eyes will probably be on me and <u>knowing how I typically am I will probably trip and maybe break a tooth on one of the pews</u>. Hopefully if that happens it'll get a good laugh, though. 
    Posted by CharDrahos[/QUOTE]

    I admit that I laughed because I'm the same way... I'm terrified I'm going to catch a heel on the cobblestone where our outdoor ceremony is going to take place and pull my stepdad or dad down with me. (And FI is terrified he's going to mess up the vows... he's already said "what if I have to look at the Reverand and say 'what?'" LOL Poor guy...)

    Here's to hoping none of the above happen to anyone!


    And as I said, I didn't get the impression that you are a bridezilla with the attitude of - <em>OMG ITS ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEE</em> but the comment was made by a subsequent poster that its THE BRIDE'S DAY, blah blah blah, and that view is really frowned upon here.
  • I wouldn't even worry about what your FI's family thinks of you because of her negative talk.  Presumably, they all understand that your FSIL is unstable and manipulative. 
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