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NEW TOS - Please Read before posting

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Hi Knotties,

The TOS has been updated. Please read the rules below. Would love your feedback!

http://wedding.theknot.com/wedding-tools-help-center/the-knot-about-us/articles/knot-community-rules.aspx

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    kmbryant2413kmbryant2413 member
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    I still think this needs to go out to each and every board, not just CC and E.
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    PrettyGirlLostPrettyGirlLost member
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    "linking to a thread to call out a user on their post"

    So, no more thread linking in FFF?

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    AddieCakeAddieCake member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:511279b4-71e9-47ca-b43e-230f5072c00a">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]I still think this needs to go out to each and every board, not just CC and E.
    Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]
    I agree. 
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    KnotJackieKnotJackie member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:511279b4-71e9-47ca-b43e-230f5072c00a">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]I still think this needs to go out to each and every board, not just CC and E.
    Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

    I am asking mods to post on their boards and we will cover the rest.
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    GoofyAssChickGoofyAssChick member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:511279b4-71e9-47ca-b43e-230f5072c00a">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]I still think this needs to go out to each and every board, not just CC and E.
    Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

    I thought the same thing. And maybe with a sticky with a different color to draw attention to it.  I'm an avid lurker so I would catch it but a lot of people wouldn't if they hadn't known what's going on lately. 
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    bunni727bunni727 member
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    I haven't finished reading, but would it be possible to be more inclusive of non-engaged or already-marrieds in the introductory paragraph?

    Lots of brides get on here, ask for advice, then give us a "this website is for brides to support each other, why are you even here?" when married ladies give advice. The way it currently reads, they have a point.
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    lyndausvilyndausvi mod
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    sounds like no FFF at all.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
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    TKzillaTKzilla member
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    So long FFF, I hardly knew ye.
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    AddieCakeAddieCake member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:d3afe52a-e5be-4bb2-9a13-0f63fec638ce">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting : I thought the same thing. And maybe with a sticky with a different color to draw attention to it.  I'm an avid lurker so I would catch it but a lot of people wouldn't if they hadn't known what's going on lately. 
    Posted by GoofyAssChick[/QUOTE]
    This. If people have been gone or new people come along, they will not even notice. 
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    edited April 2013
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:4f1f0480-e77b-4e25-8637-b06ff95a9c82">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]I haven't finished reading, but would it be possible to be more inclusive of non-engaged or already-marrieds in the introductory paragraph? Lots of brides get on here, ask for advice, then give us a "this website is for brides to support each other, why are you even here?" when married ladies give advice. The way it currently reads, they have a point.
    Posted by bunni727[/QUOTE]
    Especially when it also says "If you're married, we recommend you move over to The Nest." <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif" border="0" alt="Frown" title="Frown" /><div>
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    Some of this TOS conflicts with itself.  Did different people write different sections?

    ETA:  The section that gives TK the 'right' to pirate and sell all of our photos and uploads doesn't legally fly.  I'm not sure why the legal department really even tried that one.
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    kmbryant2413kmbryant2413 member
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    Lol Court.

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    Yes, thank you for this, and I think another valid question, especially in regards to what could be misconstrued as personal attacks:

    So when we respond to posts with memes or images, is it acceptable to perhaps have a gif of someone rolling their eyes if the post has been beat to death, but unacceptable to have one saying that someone is stupid? According to what YOU (and maybe Knot Irene) have seen the past few weeks, have our gif and meme usage been acceptable?

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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:4dbbe50c-b4f8-4272-9b83-04ee5c9fdc9a">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting : Especially when it also says "If you're married, we recommend you move over to The Nest." 
    Posted by AddieL73[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>I recommend this language gets removed or else you'll have the blind leading the blind over here.

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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:9fa0b5e1-d989-4186-81ba-be6a798996a2">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]Lol Court. Yes, thank you for this, and I think another valid question, especially in regards to what could be misconstrued as personal attacks: So when we respond to posts with memes or images, is it acceptable to perhaps have a gif of someone rolling their eyes if the post has been beat to death, but unacceptable to have one saying that someone is stupid? According to what YOU (and maybe Knot Irene) has seen the past few weeks, have our gif and meme usage been acceptable?
    Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]

    I think we could post an eyeroll in a thread, but not necessarily quote a post and post a gif eyerolling at that?
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    TKzillaTKzilla member
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    The part about moving to the Nest is crap.
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    misshart00misshart00 member
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    In Response to Re:NEW TOS Please Read before posting:[QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEW TOS Please Read before posting:In Response to Re: NEW TOS Please Read before posting : Especially when it also says "If you're married, we recommend you move over to The Nest."nbsp;Posted by AddieL73I recommend this language gets removed or else you'll have the blind leading the blind over here. Posted by kristbot[/QUOTE]

    I agree with all of this. What if you just really like weddings?

    Also, the format of the nest is slightly different and I found it difficult to get used to.

    Why do we only have to be planning a wedding to be here?
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    PrettyGirlLostPrettyGirlLost member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:335df18c-b99a-47a4-9fce-c910d7e329d8">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]sounds like no FFF at all.
    Posted by lyndausvi[/QUOTE]

    poop.

    :*(

    I liked it because many times I'd miss some real gems until you ladies linked them!

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    KnotJackieKnotJackie member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:905f34b3-2b3f-48af-a304-1ea71042ef31">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]"linking to a thread to call out a user on their post" So, no more thread linking in FFF?
    Posted by cmsciulli[/QUOTE]

    If you read carefully - you can link, just can't link to attack a person -- only things like overall ideas, etc.

    No linking to say "HOW DUMB IS [MEMBER NAME]" but you can say "I don't like the idea of [topic] so i am flaming this thread".... something like that
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    "to call out a user on their post, thoughts or beliefs (not a topic)" - this is waaaay to vague. 

    "If you are already married, we recommend you move over to The Nest - in other words get the hell out of here and let the blind lead the blind.
      
    Jackie, no offense but 99% of the time, it is not the regs causing the problems.  And if someone is going to come onto a thread knowing that their opinion is going to get them flamed then they should expect it.  I expect it every single time I post on the Catholic Weddings Board (because I honestly do not recognize the Catholicism discussed there).  If you come on an international board and use your religious beliefs as the basis for supporting or opposing something, you just put those beliefs into fair play territory for comment. 


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    PrettyGirlLostPrettyGirlLost member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:06b827a9-c438-4bd8-8509-9d63456da184">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting : If you read carefully - you can link, just can't link to attack a person -- only things like overall ideas, etc. No linking to say "HOW DUMB IS [MEMBER NAME]" but you can say "I don't like the idea of [topic] so i am flaming this thread".... something like that
    Posted by Knot Jackie[/QUOTE]

    I suspected so, but I just wanted to be clear.

    Thanks!

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    winelover123winelover123 member
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    The best advice I've received or seen on here is from the married ladies. Why on earth should they be "recommended" to move to the Nest?
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    IMHO, you shouldn't have to read carefully.  It should be spelled out in super clear language.  That's just me though.
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    Knot Jackie, the TOS conflicts with itself about 'vulgar' language.  What is the final word on that?

    "and no, we’re not going to ban you for using profanity, sarcasm or sharing your opinion in conversation"

    "No strong, vulgar, obscene, or otherwise harmful language"

    Which line takes precedent? 

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    I'm going to hope TK doesn't REALLY want us married hags to leave, and yet by that being in there, it gives fuel to the newbs who want to know why we are here. I can see it now. "Look! Even TK says you should leave!"
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    QueerFemmeQueerFemme member
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    I also think the part about moving to thenest or thebumb should be removed. It's sort of, well...  rude.  Like, "Oh, you aren't a bride???  Well, get the F outta here then!"

    I also noticed a few typos. 

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    http://4realequalityweddings.com/2014/05/16/g-christina/

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    If The Knot is recommending that those who are already married move to The Nest, why are there still month boards dating back to January 2011? While the point of this website is wedding planning, I don't think it would be beneficial to have all those who have had their day leave. How do we learn if not by the experience of others?
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    kjlambkjlamb member
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    No nest moving!  I am planning my wedding and these married ladies have helped me in so many ways I have lost count! If they were not here I would probably have a Honeymoon registry, Dollar Dance and  a Cash bar! (Shudder)  Keep the marrieds!! We love them so!!


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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:384adfa9-27ef-4dc4-abf6-27bba7645e91">Re:NEW TOS Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:NEW TOS Please Read before posting: I agree with all of this. What if you just really like weddings?<strong> Also, the format of the nest is slightly different and I found it difficult to get used to.</strong> Why do we only have to be planning a wedding to be here?
    Posted by misshart00[/QUOTE]

    I always wondered why the format differed from TK to TN?  What is the point in that?

    I also do not like the line "If you are already married, we recommend you move over to The Nest."  WTH is that?  So basically you just want all of the regs to just get up and leave once their wedding date arrives?  So I should have been off these boards almost two years ago.  Good to know.

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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:760c624d-cc13-4029-a428-fc0ebf661034">Re:NEW TOS Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]Personal Attacks section is still super vague. The fact that creating an AE at ALL is bannable is crap. The "move to the Nest" line is super offensive. You realize you will have no parent of the brides or anyone who can offer advice based on how they actually handled a sticky wedding situation and the results, right? <strong>And the right to sell our images if we post them on here has no legal basis that I can see.</strong> Not to mention the typos listed above. With all due respect, we waited all this time for this?
    Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

    It doesn't.  My husband would laugh pretty hard at this.  You can stipulate that someone has to sell you a purple unicorn in the TOS, but that doesn't make it a request that would stand up in any court.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_new-tos-please-read-before-posting?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:1598705f-80b2-4235-bc88-21d9d1028cccPost:e4b40621-cc88-4dbc-90b2-956dc419e3e9">Re: NEW TOS - Please Read before posting</a>:
    [QUOTE]The best advice I've received or seen on here is from the married ladies. Why on earth should they be "recommended" to move to the Nest?
    Posted by winelover123[/QUOTE]

    To address The Nest concern --- we are not asking you to leave The Knot. We do, however, think once married, you would benefit from the boards on The Nest. You can totally stay on these boards, it is just a recommendation for those who may want to escape wedding world.
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