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Is anyone else just getting the paperwork out of the way and planning a real wedding for later?

If you are, watch this video and tell me that the marriage license that you sign is "just paperwork."   


Do it.    I dare you.   
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Re: Is anyone else just getting the paperwork out of the way and planning a real wedding for later?

  • Wow. That was beautiful! It must makes me angrier at all these people with their "speshul circumstance" PPD's
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  • Thank you for sharing that, Banana! Such a powerful video.
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  • Thanks for sharing Banana, it was difficult not to tear up at work watching that
  • Beautifully done.  So sad it had to be done.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • Made me tear up. So sad that in this day and age things like this are still an issue. 
  • Beautiful video.  I agree that it is horrible that we are still dealing with this.  Hopefully it can all end in the near future with us being on the right side of history.
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  • If marriage is legal in one state, it should be recognized by the country as marriage, even if other states don't allow it. That's bull that they are continuously separated. :(
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  • A beautiful couple and video, and such a strong message.  
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  • It makes me SO sad that every couple doesn't have the same rights that my husband and I do.   I can't believe that this is still debated.
  • Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.
  • Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.
    what are you talking about?






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • What a sad story.
  • Such a sad situation! The fact the laws are still being made in this day and age specifically to discriminate against certain people is simply horrible.
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  • Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.
    Plus, I'm pretty sure he's from the UK not NZ... but you know, I'm sure you watched it carefully.  
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  • Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.
    My FI is an immigrant, he had to reside in the States for years before being ELIGIBLE for citizenship, and even still it costs hundreds of dollars to apply and go through the process.
  • keochan said:
    Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.
    My FI is an immigrant, he had to reside in the States for years before being ELIGIBLE for citizenship, and even still it costs hundreds of dollars to apply and go through the process.


    I don't know who your immigration attorney is, but you need a new one.   Of course there is a fee to apply for legal status , but if you are marrying an American, it does not take years to obtain legal spousal status. It can take up to 3 years to obtain citizenship, but your husband could still stay in the country.  You can obtain a fiancé visa as long as you plan to marry within 90 days.  Once you marry, your spouse can stay in the country while their green card, or application for permanent residence is processed.

    A gay couple never has that option.

  • We aren't married yet, the wedding is in a year, he's been here for 12 years. He is a permanent resident currently, but has to either renew or get his citizenship by February. The only reason they came over as quickly as they did was because his mom married an American. It is still a process and I never said anything about the gay couple. I was just pointing out that you can 'just' get dual citizenship.

    Its complete crap that gay couples are denied these basic rights everyone else gets simply because they're gay.
  • keochan said:
    We aren't married yet, the wedding is in a year, he's been here for 12 years. He is a permanent resident currently, but has to either renew or get his citizenship by February. The only reason they came over as quickly as they did was because his mom married an American. It is still a process and I never said anything about the gay couple. I was just pointing out that you can 'just' get dual citizenship.

    Its complete crap that gay couples are denied these basic rights everyone else gets simply because they're gay.

    Ahhh, I misunderstood your post. I apologize for that. I thought you were saying you couldn't get him legal status (FI/Marriage) and that takes years (it doesn't). 
  • cmgilpin said:
    keochan said:
    We aren't married yet, the wedding is in a year, he's been here for 12 years. He is a permanent resident currently, but has to either renew or get his citizenship by February. The only reason they came over as quickly as they did was because his mom married an American. It is still a process and I never said anything about the gay couple. I was just pointing out that you can 'just' get dual citizenship.

    Its complete crap that gay couples are denied these basic rights everyone else gets simply because they're gay.

    Ahhh, I misunderstood your post. I apologize for that. I thought you were saying you couldn't get him legal status (FI/Marriage) and that takes years (it doesn't). 
    It's cool, I was just making a point about obtaining citizenship when spousal ties ARENT in the equation, I should have been more clear.
  • Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.

    you are famous for commenting about things you know nothing about.
  • keochan said:
    cmgilpin said:
    keochan said:
    We aren't married yet, the wedding is in a year, he's been here for 12 years. He is a permanent resident currently, but has to either renew or get his citizenship by February. The only reason they came over as quickly as they did was because his mom married an American. It is still a process and I never said anything about the gay couple. I was just pointing out that you can 'just' get dual citizenship.

    Its complete crap that gay couples are denied these basic rights everyone else gets simply because they're gay.

    Ahhh, I misunderstood your post. I apologize for that. I thought you were saying you couldn't get him legal status (FI/Marriage) and that takes years (it doesn't). 
    It's cool, I was just making a point about obtaining citizenship when spousal ties ARENT in the equation, I should have been more clear.
    that makes total sense now. Yes, unless there is a family sponsorship (parent, spouse, etc.) obtaining US status is a huge pain in the ass and can take a decade and you have to hope you win the damn green card lottery, unless you have some marketable skill and some employer wants to sponsor you. 
  • Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.
    It continues to amaze me - though it shouldn't at this point - how out of touch you are with reality.



  • What a sad thing to watch. Saying good-bye for a day or two - hell, sometimes even just a few hours - is hard enough with someone you love. I cannot imagine doing this every 90 days for who knows what period of time. It is so wrong that some folks don't have anything better to worry about than keeping gay couples, even married ones, from enjoying the same privileges as straight couples. Some things in the world are difficult to fix, but this should be an EASY one.
  • Viczaesar said:
    Totally agree with previous posters, but the New Zealand guy should apply for dual citizenship with the U.S., or give up NZ to become an American, and then he would be a U.S. citizen ON HIS OWN.
    It continues to amaze me - though it shouldn't at this point - how out of touch you are with reality.
    I want to add for having a PH D in education it's sad that you didn't know the flag was a Union Jack aka Britain's flag, not New Zealand's.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • Maybe Kristin's New Zealand confusion came from a picture where the New Zealand sign was visible in an airport picture.


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  • bunni727 said:
    Maybe Kristin's New Zealand confusion came from a picture where the New Zealand sign was visible in an airport picture.


    Maybe?  But pretty early on in the video had both of them with flags under their pictures to show they are from different countries.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
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