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  • I'm not a fan of the boots w/BM dresses thing, but that's just a personal style opinion (I'm not a cowboy boots type of person to begin with, so that's my big reason). 

    However, if you are requiring you BMs to wear cowboy boots, you absolutely, 100%, no excuses, MUST purchase them for them, and NOT as their 'gift' (if they don't already own a pair).  With ANY 'required' footwear, be it boots, chucks, or a specific heel, if you require a specific pair of shoes, YOU buy them.  Period.

    Now...if they own boots, or you are planning to buy the boots for them, I suggest looking for non-BM dresses.  Department stores are great, and not something people think of when buying BM dresses, but you can get them much cheaper (my girls got their dresses from JC Penny for $35, and they looked awesome), and you can find a style that's a little more casual that will fit your wedding.  Also another benefit with buying department store dresses is that they might actually have an opportunity to wear it again since it is not a cliche 'BM' dress.

    The other great idea that works is to select a color/length and let each girl pick their own dress.  You'll get differing shades, different fabrics, etc, but I think especially for a casual/country style wedding, that could look really cute.  Plus, it ensures that each girl will look great and be comfortable since they were able to pick for their body.
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    [QUOTE] To answer the question about my BM's owning boots. Two of them do, the other two do not. I was planning to get a new pair for the wedding so I was going to loan the other pair I have to any of the girls who wish to use them. My MOH has two pairs so she was going to do the same. And when I'm talking about the boots, <strong>I'm not asking anyone to go and spend $100+ just for shoes.</strong> I've seen boots just as cute at Target or Payless. I am a budget bride so I'm not asking anyone to spend anything unrealistic. 
    Posted by kiwi0685[/QUOTE]

    Try $200+ for cowboy boots.  I'm an English riding, city slicker but I know how damned pricey western boots are.

    It's very kind of you and your other BM to lend boots out, but they may not fit the other BM's comfortably even if they are the correct size.  How many BMs total do you have?  Maybe give those who do not already own a pair of boots the option of wearing another type of shoe?

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    [QUOTE]I've lived all over the US and travelled my whole life Finally....the truth. NOT a native Texan.
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    I never claimed to be a native Texan. But I have lived here nearly 10 years. So it's not like I've just moved here either..
  • I don't know why everyone has to attack you for you wanting cowboy boots at your wedding. Its just plain rude. People just don't understand how to keep their mouths shut if they don't have anything nice to say. LIke I said before I love the idea of boots and dresses together for a wedding especially one that isn't fru fru and more casual. Just ignore PP's and Future ones as well if they are just going to be rude.
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  • my girls are wearing dresses and boots. they bought their own boots and I bought their dresses. I actually went to thumbtack.com and found a seamstress to make sundresses out of a jersey like material and they were CHEAP! Hope it helps!
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    [QUOTE]I don't know why everyone has to attack you for you wanting cowboy boots at your wedding. Its just plain rude. People just don't understand how to keep their mouths shut if they don't have anything nice to say. LIke I said before I love the idea of boots and dresses together for a wedding especially one that isn't fru fru and more casual. Just ignore PP's and Future ones as well if they are just going to be rude.
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    [QUOTE]<strong>Texas is a big honkin' state.  The only tried and true "Texas" thing is being awesome. </strong> Everything else varies by your social circle and perhaps geographic region. OP, I agree that if you want your BMs to wear a certain type of she that she does not already own, it is proper for you to purchase them for her.  And, I agree with the PP that good boots are not cheap, and the cheap boots will be uncomfortable.   That said - I think the best approach would be to pick a shade of color and a dress length and tell your BMs to find a dress that they will feel gorgeous in and will go with their boots. 
    Posted by TXKristan[/QUOTE]

    I LOL'd at this.

    I too am a texan who would never be caught dead in cowboy boots, but I don't think it's a horrendous idea as long as your other BMs are excited for it.  I will say that you need to encourage your girls to bring back up shoes in case these borrowed/cheap cowboy boots are uncomfortable.  Take some good photos in them... then let them change into something more comfortable if they prefer.

    I really liked that country/vintage/cotton kind of look for BM dresses too at first, but ultimately let my BMs just pick what they wanted, and they picked something completely different.  When I was still looking, however, I was having very little luck, even here, and almost considered purchasing custom dresses off etsy.  There are some really cute dresses that would look good with cowboy boots.

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  • You'd have to pay me to wear cowboy boots, but I will fourth? fifth? the suggestion for Modcloth. Check these out: http://www.modcloth.com/shop/search?keyword=ruffled&category=dress&commit=Search

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    [QUOTE]The cowboy boots wouldn't look horrible if she went for the "country chic" look.  Get a short, casual dress and wear the boots....what kind of reception is it?  Iced tea in mason jars, barbecue, wildflowers (Texas wildflowers are the world's prettiest), gingham and hay bales would be fun, inexpensive and old-fashioned party. My wedding was SUPER casual.  50 guests in the backyard for a barbecue catered by a local restaurant.  We had the volleyball net up and the croquet set out.  Whole thing cost less than a thousand dollars, and everyone went home stuffed with food. Now THAT'S a Texas/Southern tradition.....you don't treat your guests right unless they're so full of food they must be rolled to the front door!!!!!
    Posted by RetreadBride[/QUOTE]

    <div>That's basically what I'm going for. My fiance is born and raised in Houston so it's going to have a backyard bbq kind of feel. Less than 80 guests. Mostly family and close friends. So pretty casual. I'll probably be the most dressed up person there. </div>
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    [QUOTE]I don't know why everyone has to attack you for you wanting cowboy boots at your wedding. Its just plain rude. People just don't understand how to keep their mouths shut if they don't have anything nice to say. LIke I said before I love the idea of boots and dresses together for a wedding especially one that isn't fru fru and more casual. Just ignore PP's and Future ones as well if they are just going to be rude.
    Posted by shauntae930[/QUOTE]

    <div>Thank you! :D</div>
  • The second link and the last link, I think those looks are cute. The first link w/green dresses..yuck. Other creme colored link, the dress is too formal for the boots. I like the idea of a simple, causal type dress with the boots.

    Here is a link to a store called Maurice's. They have stores in malls but have online store. If you are looking for short dresses I think they have some really cute options depending on what colors you are going for that would look cute for a country style wedding. Plus all the dresses are under $50 and are styles your girls could easily wear again. The current style of lace or eyelet dress may look really cute.

    http://www.maurices.com/family/index.jsp?view=all&categoryId=3796186&cp=11804845

    Good luck!!
  • No dresses go with cowboy boots. Guess what. Lived and worked in Ft worth for years. Saw plenty of tacky girls in boots and dresses. They don't know how to dress.
  • I will ditto the suggestion of Old Navy.  They have quite a few (multiple styles and colors) eyelet lace dresses right now, and they're available in regular and plus sizes.
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  • I am curious why is wearing cowboy boots to a wedding such a bad thing? I feel like this comes up a lot. I totally get the whole "you shouldn't require certain shoes unless you're paying" thing but I totally wore combat boots to the last wedding I went to. I looked great and was very comfortable wrangling my toddler. I mean if it fits the look of the wedding, which it seems to, what's the big deal? I definitely think it could be made to look super cute and appropriate. Like for an outdoor wedding or the whole rustic deal that's super popular.
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    [QUOTE]I am curious why is wearing cowboy boots to a wedding such a bad thing? I feel like this comes up a lot. I totally get the whole "you shouldn't require certain shoes unless you're paying" thing but I totally wore combat boots to the last wedding I went to. I looked great and was very comfortable wrangling my toddler. I mean if it fits the look of the wedding, which it seems to, what's the big deal? I definitely think it could be made to look super cute and appropriate. Like for an outdoor wedding or the whole rustic deal that's super popular.
    Posted by ridedatbike[/QUOTE]

    It's not cowboy boots to a wedding. It's cowboy boots with a dress.
  • In Response to Re:bridesmaids: dresses :[QUOTE]In Response to Re:bridesmaids: dresses amp; cowboy boots:I am curious why is wearing cowboy boots to a wedding such a bad thing? I feel like this comes up a lot. I totally get the whole "you shouldn't require certain shoes unless you're paying" thing but I totally wore combat boots to the last wedding I went to. I looked great and was very comfortable wrangling my toddler. I mean if it fits the look of the wedding, which it seems to, what's the big deal? I definitely think it could be made to look super cute and appropriate. Like for an outdoor wedding or the whole rustic deal that's super popular.Posted by ridedatbikeIt's not cowboy boots to a wedding. It's cowboy boots with a dress. Posted by NYCMercedes[/QUOTE]



    Any dress? I look really good boots with dresses...granted they're not exactly formal.
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    [QUOTE]Oh, then boots will look fine there!  My wedding was much the same.  I wore a wedding gown and he wore silk pants and shirt, but everybody was barefoot, and all the guests were in shorts and jeans.  We sent out invitations on stationery inviting everyone to "a backyard barbecue in celebration of our marriage" with "shoes optional" at the bottom.  It was a party rather than a "wedding." Sorry about that.  You're doing a party wedding celebration.  Why not put them in a skirt and a western shirt?  Something they'd wear to go to the clubs? I looked at your bio, and your dress is darling. 
    Posted by RetreadBride[/QUOTE]

    <div>If i found a shirt/skirt combo that looked really, like with a wide belt (no belt buckle) then I would totally go for it. I'm meeting up with the girls this weekend to give them colors/style guidelines and then handing the dress-shopping reins over to them. And yeah, I guess it would have helped earlier on to mention how casual the whole thing is so people wouldn't keep assuming I wanted everyone in ball gowns and boots.  ;)</div>
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    [QUOTE]The second link and the last link, I think those looks are cute. The first link w/green dresses..yuck. Other creme colored link, the dress is too formal for the boots. I like the idea of a simple, causal type dress with the boots. Here is a link to a store called Maurice's. They have stores in malls but have online store. If you are looking for short dresses I think they have some really cute options depending on what colors you are going for that would look cute for a country style wedding. Plus all the dresses are under $50 and are styles your girls could easily wear again. The current style of lace or eyelet dress may look really cute. <a href="http://www.maurices.com/family/index.jsp?view=all&categoryId=3796186&cp=11804845" rel="nofollow">http://www.maurices.com/family/index.jsp?view=all&categoryId=3796186&cp=11804845</a> Good luck!!
    Posted by Erikan73[/QUOTE]

    <div>I checked out that Maurices website and those dresses are super cute! And there's one nearby the Houston area where we're going to be this weekend! I think you may have solved my problem! :::fingers crossed:::  :)</div>
  • Speaking of judgy pants.....wow

    I'm doing boots for my girls too and yeah ladies on here are definitely not a fan but it is what it is, you can't please everyone. I'm in the farmland of IL, all my friends already have boots and no one will side-eye it. It's your wedding. As long as you have the boot situation covered, which it sounds like you do, I say go for it!

    I had a really hard time finding dresses too. My problem was that I was looking for dresses that were too formal and it just didn't look right. I ended up finding some navy eyelet cotten dresses at a local boutique. The girls picked out which style they liked (fabric and color) was the same. I would suggest looking at Old Navy and ModCloth like PP or focusing on something more like a "sundress". ModCloth even has stylists you can email letting them know what you are looking for and they will try to find something to fit what you're looking for. They are awesome! Chiffon is also something I think compliments the boots a lot better than a satin or more formal fabric.
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  • edited April 2013
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: bridesmaids: dresses & cowboy boots : Excuse me! I posted my question in the hopes to get suggestions of stores where I could find the kind of dresses I'm looking for, since I am obviously striking out at AA and DB. What I wasn't expecting was being told repeatedly that my idea was ugly since no one here likes cowboy boots. So pardon me and my individual tastes. My earlier reply was me just shedding more light as to why I wanted boots. Not heels, not flats. So I am sorry that you took it so far out of context as to be offended. And frankly I was already considering your advice, of letting them go find dresses on their own. I was just trying the traditional route of dress shopping first, since I am actually planning all of this long distance and wanted some kind of time with my friends. 
    Posted by kiwi0685[/QUOTE]

    <div>Im actually doing cowboy boots for my wedding as well :) everyone in our BP rodeo & ranch so its fitting! Ignore the rude comments!! I found an alfred angelo dress that does look cute with boots- they are knee length & simple. Hope you find the right dress :)</div>
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  • Born in Texas, have horses, more boots that I've worn out riding than I care to think about, and have had friends and family suggest I wear boots beneath my wedding gown. 

    Not.Happening.

    I get wanting a casual wedding; mine, for the most part, is pretty laid back.  All 2 of my attendants (MOH and my BM) have been told "Go.  Find a dress -you- like, just make sure it matches this color if you can please!"  Both of them are very different body types, and I didn't want the stress of looking.  Both offered to do whatever I wanted for their dresses, but, I love them way to much to do that to them.  I'd rather they got something they could wear again and like wearing in the first place!

    I 100% getting wanting to spend time with your BP.  I really do.  My two are my best friend of 25+ years and my sister.  But, I'd rather go to a movie, lunch or just hang out rather than spend time looking at dresses. 

    Do your party a favor and do the same.

    Also, I might have missed it; are you purchasing the boots?  I buy inexpensive, plain black, lace up Ariats most of the time, and those are $120 a shot.  PLEASE, for all that's good in the world, do them a favor and either buy them, or let them off the hook for boots.  Mostly because, I'd be irritated blowing my "boot money" on boots I wouldn't step in horse crap in!!  :)

    Beyond that, I hope your wedding is fun and everyone enjoys!!  :)
  • I LOVE the cowboy boots idea. I'm from Iowa and getting married June 2014. I'm doing the same thing. About 2 out of the 4 bridemaids have boots, and the other girls wanted to get them anyways. This is just a good excuse to get them. They are paying for there own. If they really didn't want to spend alot of money they have boots that are just for looks for around $25. For getting in girl time, I'm having a BBQ at my house with all the bridemaids and we are going to discuss what colors and syle I'm looking at for the wedding. I'm going to bring pictures from my pinterest account to show them exactly what I have visioned. I'm more that happy to go with them or they can go online or they can go on there own time. I'm pry just going to ask them to send me a picture so I know what to give them for a gift, which I'm thinking a necklace or bracelet.  The sun dresses are cheaper than typical bridemaids dresses so if they had to buy boots for around $25,  it would be cheaper or about the same price. They can purchase there dress based on there budget. From where I'm from were going to look at Deb's, Rue 21, JCPenny's and Maurices.

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    http://pinterest.com/pin/565412928187454489/
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    I hope those help! Good luck on wedding planning.
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  • My bridesmaids are also wearing cowboy boots 1 they all own at least 3 pairs 2 none of them like heels and 3 its what they are most comfortable in. I've started looking for dresses that would flatter three very different body types. Not happening. So instead of looking to buy dresses I've found several different sundress patterns that can be changed to flatter each girl. I'm lucky enough to know multiple people that can sew and are willing to help. If you know someone who can sew and is willing to it may be a good option. Since this is how I'm doing it I'm buying fabric on sale so the girls won't have to spend a dime if they don't want to.
  • wow can you say super bitch? it is her wedding and she can do whatever she wants! she is on here asking for help with her ideas, not for some bride wars stunt double to tear them down! I think cowboy boots are a fun and really cute idea for a wedding! I'm wearing them to mine too, and buying my bridesmaids some cheaper ones from target that are still quite cute :) my bridesmaids are wearing some simple flowy bridesmaids dresses that are knee length... they actually were a lot more then I was going to ask them to buy, but when I asked the girls individually what they would be comfortable spending. and they said more then I was expecting. you can find lots of pretty dresses at all different price ranges.... just keep them in the girls comfort zones price wise AND modesty wise... and you can all be happy. remember your wedding is about your style so don't let caddy would-be-bridezillas effect you! put your girls in boots and dresses and enjoy your pictures for years to come! oh and I always find so many cute dresses on modclothe.com!
  • wow can you say super bitch? it is her wedding and she can do whatever she wants! she is on here asking for help with her ideas, not for some bride wars stunt double to tear them down! I think cowboy boots are a fun and really cute idea for a wedding! I'm wearing them to mine too, and buying my bridesmaids some cheaper ones from target that are still quite cute :) my bridesmaids are wearing some simple flowy bridesmaids dresses that are knee length... they actually were a lot more then I was going to ask them to buy, but when I asked the girls individually what they would be comfortable spending. and they said more then I was expecting. you can find lots of pretty dresses at all different price ranges.... just keep them in the girls comfort zones price wise AND modesty wise... and you can all be happy. remember your wedding is about your style so don't let caddy would-be-bridezillas effect you! put your girls in boots and dresses and enjoy your pictures for years to come! oh and I always find so many cute dresses on modclothe.com!
    Oh lord.

    You're an articulate and well-adjusted peach aren't you? And I am a Realtor, not a caddy. I don't play golf and I definitely don't walk around carrying clubs. Unless you meant "catty?"



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  • I truly have no idea where to find dresses that would go with cowboy boots, but I think it's an awesome idea. My mom wore cowboy boots for her second wedding, and it's really all about who you are, never mind what anyone else says. I would say that if your girls don't already have boots, you'll want to take them out boot shopping sooner rather than later, so they can get a pair they're comfortable in and get them fitting their feet.
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    wow can you say super bitch? it is her wedding and she can do whatever she wants! she is on here asking for help with her ideas, not for some bride wars stunt double to tear them down! I think cowboy boots are a fun and really cute idea for a wedding! I'm wearing them to mine too, and buying my bridesmaids some cheaper ones from target that are still quite cute :) my bridesmaids are wearing some simple flowy bridesmaids dresses that are knee length... they actually were a lot more then I was going to ask them to buy, but when I asked the girls individually what they would be comfortable spending. and they said more then I was expecting. you can find lots of pretty dresses at all different price ranges.... just keep them in the girls comfort zones price wise AND modesty wise... and you can all be happy. remember your wedding is about your style so don't let caddy would-be-bridezillas effect you! put your girls in boots and dresses and enjoy your pictures for years to come! oh and I always find so many cute dresses on modclothe.com!
    Sorry, but if you post on a discussion board, by definition you are asking for opinions.  And you're going to get them.   What you're not going to get, and are not entitled to, is automatic validation of your ideas or stroking of your ego.  It isn't rude to disagree with someone.

    The bolded doesn't go over well here in TheKnot...especially after insulting everyone here by calling us names.  Just because someone is a "bride" does not mean it is "her wedding" or that "she can do whatever she wants" without there being consequences, including potentially bad ones.  We're actually trying to do her a favor by pointing potential bad consequences when someone suggests a bad idea or one that violates etiquette.  It does not make anyone here a "super bitch" to disagree with the OP.

    If all you want is automatic validation because "I'm the bride! I can do whatever I want!" then this forum is not the place for you.
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    I'm so glad this thread was dredged up from the murky depths of the Wedding Party archives.

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