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We ended up with a partially hosted bar!

We got married last Friday (woot woot!) and everything went pretty perfectly... it was an absolutely beautiful (if not sweltering) day, we had a full three days full of family and friends, and I married my best friend.  As I recap now, there's one issue that I really can't get out of my mind.

We used a local specialty grocery store that has an in-house catering service (absolutely wonderful, local food).  The store is family owned, and the service felt like it.  Really, it was amazing.  We got married a historic community garden center where there is a physical bar but not services.  They don't have a liquor license, so it was in our contract that absolutely no money could change hands for liquor (no, "oh, it's an open bar, but we need guests to give 'tips'!" *wink wink* situations).

The store owner's son has a bartending service on the side, so we hired him to provide a bartender. The guy was wonderful, very cheerful and chatty.  The guests loved him.  I didn't even see the bar (it was in a side screened area beside the great room)...my lovely, lovely guests kept me drink-in-hand.  At 11pm, when most guests had already left, I realized that the guy had had a tip jar on the bar all evening!  It was absolutely full.  We'd prepared a very generous tip for him, but didn't give it ahead of time (my first mistake?).  I brought it up to some friends that I was upset, and insisted that it wasn't a big deal: "Every drink was only $1! That's a great deal!"  I'm so embarrassed, and really pissed that he compromised me properly hosting people.  We ended up giving him a very small tip at the end of the night.  Who even knew that bartenders carried their own tip jars?!

So now, as I begin to review vendors, I can't help the urge to call the owner and let him know that I'm upset.  It's a small town and we just moved here, so I don't want to create drama.  But I am still so angry.  What would you do?

Re: We ended up with a partially hosted bar!

  • I would absolutely let the owner know.  It was his own son compromising not only his reputation, but potentially his business by exchanging alcohol for money when it was not allowed.  He should know.  I would be livid if I found out this happened at my wedding.  Did you say anything to the bartender at the end of the night?


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    Honestly, I would rip him and his parents' catering company several new assholes.

    If it was in your CONTRACT that no money would change hands for liquor, and he charged $1 for drinks, that is breach of contract. And it makes you look like a shittastic hostess!

    I would be SO embarrassed that that had happened to me. I would probably send a $5 check to each guest that attended my wedding to compensate them for any drinks they had, and apologize for the mixup.

    And I'd make sure that the catering company compensated you for that.

    That's just so ridiculous!

    ETA: I'd also give them all scathing reviews on as many websites as I could find.
  • Did you pay for all the drinks and then he charged $1 per drink on top of that? I would be livid.
  • Did he charge a dollar a drink or is that just what people tipped? It's fairly common for bartenders to put out a tip jar, so if you didn't say anything ahead of time I think you should just move on. It's not ideal, but it's also not the worst thing. It sounds like everyone had a great time.
  • Tip jars are super tacky.



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  • Per our contract, we're paying 23% gratuity on our food and beverage bill and doing an open bar. We're also prepared to individually give extra cash tip to any of the staff who are exceptional.   I would be livid if I found out that the bartender was asking my guests for tips or charging them on top of that.  I would absolutely say something to the owner because that is one seriously shady crock of crap!
  • If it was in your contract that no money exchange hands, then yes, I would definitely say something to the company's owners, because that is breach of contract. Regardless of whether he actually charged per drink or just put out the tip jar and you had generous guests who gave him tips.
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  • He didn't charge... they just averaged a $1 tip so felt like they got a 'great deal'.  I guess I should have tipped him ahead of the wedding, but there was so much to do that it completely slipped through my fingers.  I'm just angry that I went to so much trouble to provide an open bar, and he made it seem as if it was not entirely hosted.
  • I just re-read my original post and I made it sound as if the bartending contract specificed no money...I should have typed 'venue contract'.  I spoke extensively with the bartender, and he had worked events at this venue before and knew the rule quite well.

  • Our bartender also put out a tip jar but it wasn't discussed in our contract (bar manager had just started a week before our wedding so things were crazy.)  It severely reduced the tip we gave.  Since we didn't discuss it, I didn't feel the need to talk about it with them.  Since you did, I would at least mention it to the owner so he knows what is going on.  Chances are, he'd want to know this went on.
  • I'd probably question a few trusted, close guests a little more to get more information.  If they all said something similar to 'each drink was only $1', I'd find out if the bartender was specifically telling them that was the charge per drink, or if he was asking for that much per drink in tips? If he was routinely asking for payment of $1 before handing over the drink, I'd say you have a major problem contractually. If he was requesting tips but not saying it was a charge for the drink, then maybe he's just a jackass. And, I'd investigate whether he was doing this independently or if it was joint with the venue (my guess is independently, he thought he'd pocket the 'tip' money AND your tip).
  • I think your post is very misleading. From what I understand you had a hosted bar... but you seem to call it partially hosted.  Him putting out a tip jar doesn't mean you didn't host it properly.  I've seen tip jars at weddings and I don't tend to tip -- it's not my job, it's the bride/groom/whoever is hosting the wedding's role to do so, not me as a guest.  If your guests tipped, that's on them. 
  • Would it have been better if the bartender did not put out a tip jar?  Yes.  But I don't think this is such a big deal, and you should let it go.  Asking your guests about it more or sending them a check like a PP suggested (not sure if that was serious) is overkill.  
  • My cousin's friend bartended our wedding, and he set out a tip jar on our open bar as well without my permission. We were already paying him generously, so I was pretty livid when I found out. But my guests didn't seem to mind when I apologized about it after making him take it down. They actually insisted he put it back out since he apparently made pretty strong drinks. If your guests don't seem upset, don't worry about it, but definitely let the company know you were not happy that the tip jar wasn't cleared with you first, because you never would have said yes to it.
  • Sidebar: my own ridiculous tip jar story

    A friend of my mother owns a bar, and my mom hired two of the ladies who work there to tend bar at my wedding.  She offered to pay them an amount my mom and both bartenders thought was fair.  At some point the topic of tip jars came up, and from my E training I knew that we should cover the tip ourselves.  I explained it to my mom and offered to cover the tips, and she totally understood the etiquette and was fine with my decision.  Whenever it got back to the bar owner, she was absolutely livid and insisted that we were trying to fuck her employees over.  We said no one is getting fucked over, a dollar tip is a dollar tip whether it comes from us or our guests.  The woman insisted that I was a "fucking bridezilla" (what?), and has ended her friendship with my mom, in large part because of this.

    The bartenders are 30-40 year old women, and had ample opportunity to speak up for themselves or decline the gig altogether.  It was completely insane... Some of our guests did tip anyway, which is fine, but a jar sitting out prompts a person to tip and I wasn't comfortable with that.  Of course, this woman also thought I was crazy for having an open bar (versus cash).  Who's the hoosier in this scenario...

    /threadjack

    Just typing it out helped relieve some of the irritation...  I didn't specifically tell the exact bartender (just his boss) and I should have caught it in time.  I'm going to mention it to the owner of the bartending service, and leave it at that.  We only tipped him $40 of the original $100+ we had reserved, so it may have even backfired on him.  He was a great bartender, so I'm going to get over it. 

    @daveANDkristen...  I'm from Indiana, and had to google that phrase.  I lol'ed.

  • ADH0906 said:
    Just typing it out helped relieve some of the irritation...  I didn't specifically tell the exact bartender (just his boss) and I should have caught it in time.  I'm going to mention it to the owner of the bartending service, and leave it at that.  We only tipped him $40 of the original $100+ we had reserved, so it may have even backfired on him.  He was a great bartender, so I'm going to get over it. 

    @daveANDkristen...  I'm from Indiana, and had to google that phrase.  I lol'ed.


    I can't believe you've never heard "hoosier" being from Indiana!  But anyway I meant it in the slang way, which basically means white trash.
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  • I'm late to the party, but I agree you need to let this go.

    Where I'm from, fully hosted bars are incredibly uncommon. So we had stated with our venue no tip jars, etc.

    Our guests felt "bad" getting drinks for "free" from what I've heard, so my Brother in law (and lots of DH's Fire department friends) apparently insisted that a tip jar be put out. DH & I had no clue.

    One of those *shoulder shrug* moments.

  • daveANDkristen

    Oh, I've heard it...just never to mean 'white trash.'  When the shoe fits, I suppose... ;)


  • itzMS said:

    I'm late to the party, but I agree you need to let this go.

    Where I'm from, fully hosted bars are incredibly uncommon. So we had stated with our venue no tip jars, etc.

    Our guests felt "bad" getting drinks for "free" from what I've heard, so my Brother in law (and lots of DH's Fire department friends) apparently insisted that a tip jar be put out. DH & I had no clue.

    One of those *shoulder shrug* moments.

    Some people take tipping very seriously. I for one would feel like the tackiest person in the world if I spent the evening slinging back free cocktails and didn't tip the person making me those martinis. I agree with what a PP said about not having the tip jar because obviously it implies that guests must tip, but I think it is a dick move on the bride's part to spend her wedding night making a big scene to all her guests about not tipping 'the help'.  
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