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NWR-Hurt feelings

Yesterday I got an email from the team mom for Fi's son's baseball team. When we registered him FI listed me as the main point of contact and put stepmom as the relationship. The team mom just emailed asking for FI and his ex wifes email because she needed to make sure DS's real parents were included in team emails. I managed to avoid being snarky and simply sent FI's email and told her I don't know his ex's email. Team mom immediately followed up with FI about getting his ex's email because "it's only fair she knows when her son is playing". FI played dumb and said he didn't know it. 

This morning FI got a ton of team emails: schedule, snack sign ups, fundraising etc. I checked the distro list and every player has both parents included on it, but DS only has his dad listed. I know it's dumb to get my feeling hurt over this, but I've spent almost two years raising him yet am apparently not worthy of being included on the parent email, but his mom who calls one every few months HAS to be on it?
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  • Does Team Mom know that Bio Mom is not really in the picture? Because if TM thinks that BM is in the picture, then I can see her point in saying that it'd be fair for BM to know when her son's games are. However, that does not excuse her kicking you out of the picture entirely. I'm sorry. :(
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  • I wish it was just her that’s a bitch. I think part of why it hurt so much was apparently being a stepmom is the worst thing in the world. As soon as his friend’s moms meet me they immediately question me about his real mom. At the end of last school year I got stopped by a teacher when I was picking him up. I was on the list of who could take him home, but they insisted they call her to get her permission even though he was already living with us full time. Even my mom is overly judgmental about it. On Christmas she told DS to ask his dad if he could have a soda and since I was right there I said it was fine. Mom responded with “you’re not his mom he doesn’t need to ask you because you can’t say yes or no”. 

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  • afox007 said:

    I wish it was just her that’s a bitch. I think part of why it hurt so much was apparently being a stepmom is the worst thing in the world. As soon as his friend’s moms meet me they immediately question me about his real mom. At the end of last school year I got stopped by a teacher when I was picking him up. I was on the list of who could take him home, but they insisted they call her to get her permission even though he was already living with us full time. Even my mom is overly judgmental about it. On Christmas she told DS to ask his dad if he could have a soda and since I was right there I said it was fine. Mom responded with “you’re not his mom he doesn’t need to ask you because you can’t say yes or no”. 

    Yikes! You have some really unsupportive people in your life! That sucks. What does your FI do about this? Does he stand up for you in these situations, or does he just let it happen?
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  • It's not dumb to be hurt. She's being disrespectful, hurtful, and ignorant. Your future stepson can't possibly be the only child with a situation like this. Follow up with the team mom and say, "I am one of DS's co-parents. Please add me to the team email distribution list. Thank you." No need to explain further. Maybe CC your FI so she knows the two of you are on the same page.
  • Does Team Mom know that Bio Mom is not really in the picture? Because if TM thinks that BM is in the picture, then I can see her point in saying that it'd be fair for BM to know when her son's games are. However, that does not excuse her kicking you out of the picture entirely. I'm sorry. :(

    She knows, last season her son was on our team she just wasn’t the team mom. She questioned us a few times on why BM wasn’t there and FI explained it. Last season we never kept her out of the loop I sent her the schedule and would text her the night before to remind her there was a game since I knew DS wanted her to come to at least one.  

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  • ElcaBElcaB member
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    Ew. I'm sorry Team Mom is being such a bitch. 

    I'd politely but firmly explain that she should focus on team activities and stop meddling in people's personal lives. I don't care what your family situation is --- whether your future stepson's biological mother is in his life or not, Team Mom is not a social worker and needs to mind her own beeswax. You and FI need to let her know that you two are to be listed as the parents of your future stepson. The end.  
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  • I'm sorry. All of that is really shitty. 
  • These people do realize the whole evil stepmom thing is disney, not reality, right?  Yeah some step parents are jerks but so are some biological parents.  

    I'm sorry everyone is giving you so much crap, it's absolutely ridiculous of them.  Saying you're not a real mom because you're not the biological parent isn't just offensive to you, it's offensive to anyone who has ever adopted a child.  Parents are the people who raise you and love you.  Wether you happen to share DNA with them or not is irrelevant.
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  • Oh, that's just plain awful - I'm so sorry you are being treated so poorly. My FI has a 15-year-old son and thankfully, I've yet to face such disrespect with others regarding and hope to never. I think HisGirl has some great advice with the email back to TM. Good luck!
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  • afox007 said:
    Yesterday I got an email from the team mom for Fi's son's baseball team. When we registered him FI listed me as the main point of contact and put stepmom as the relationship. The team mom just emailed asking for FI and his ex wifes email because she needed to make sure DS's real parents were included in team emails. I managed to avoid being snarky and simply sent FI's email and told her I don't know his ex's email. Team mom immediately followed up with FI about getting his ex's email because "it's only fair she knows when her son is playing". FI played dumb and said he didn't know it. 

    This morning FI got a ton of team emails: schedule, snack sign ups, fundraising etc. I checked the distro list and every player has both parents included on it, but DS only has his dad listed. I know it's dumb to get my feeling hurt over this, but I've spent almost two years raising him yet am apparently not worthy of being included on the parent email, but his mom who calls one every few months HAS to be on it?

    That is total bullshit and 100% just that woman's bad attitude and baggage coming through. My daughter has a stepmom (and a soon to be stepdad that she already refers to as her stepdad) and you better believe that all of her school and extracurricular paperwork lists:

    Mom's name and number
    Dad's name and number
    Stepdad's name and number
    Stepmom's name and number

    We are all parenting her, so we all need to know what's going on. You shouldn't have been disrespected that way. *hugs*


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  • I'm so sorry that people are being so awful to you. Despite how others are treating you, you are your son's real mother. DNA only goes so far when raising a child.
  • I'm in agreement that Team Mom is being a really horrible person.

    I would e-mail her back, and CC your FI on it, and say, 'As a primary caregivers for DS -- he lives with us full-time, I/we pick him up from school, I'm going to be his step-mother, etc. -- FI and I were concerned that these e-mails came only to him and not to both parents parenting DS. We're sure you didn't mean to be exclusionary, or to imply by your contact that you knew more about our family's dynamics than we do, but your actions were inappropriate. FI and I are the primary caregivers, and therefore primary points of contact, for DS. Bio-mom is not in the picture, and is not going to be in the picture. In future, please regard any information about our family from us as being correct without trying to modify it as you see fit."

    I would absolutely nail her down on this, because it's inappropriate -- she doesn't get to make a judgement call about who gets what information about YOUR SON. She has absolutely no right to know any of this information -- and what if there had been a protective order in place that PROHIBITED bio-mom from knowing anything about DS? Then what, nosy Team Mom lady? Huh huh huh? THEN WHAT??

    Not cool, Team Mom Lady, not cool.

    This is great advice and exactly what I would do in your shoes.

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  • Thanks ladies! Hearing so many of you call him my son made me feel a lot better. I sent her am email like suggested so now we wait and see.

    The funny thing is I feel like all these judgey people would change their mind in an instant if they had to spend 5 minutes with bio mom.
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    afox007 said:
    Thanks ladies! Hearing so many of you call him my son made me feel a lot better. I sent her am email like suggested so now we wait and see. The funny thing is I feel like all these judgey people would change their mind in an instant if they had to spend 5 minutes with bio mom.
    I totally feel you there. A lot of people are like, "Why are you estranged from your dad?" and it's like, "Look, go spend a few minutes in conversation with him and then tell me whether or not you need me to give you an answer."
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  • phira said:


    afox007 said:

    Thanks ladies! Hearing so many of you call him my son made me feel a lot better. I sent her am email like suggested so now we wait and see.

    The funny thing is I feel like all these judgey people would change their mind in an instant if they had to spend 5 minutes with bio mom.

    I totally feel you there. A lot of people are like, "Why are you estranged from your dad?" and it's like, "Look, go spend a few minutes in conversation with him and then tell me whether or not you need me to give you an answer."

    Also, this whole line of thinking just bugs me. DH is estranged from his parents for Very Good Reasons, and every time someone mentions how awful it is to not be in touch with 'family,' I want to slap them. Like, dude, until you know what we're dealing with here, STFU,
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  • These people do realize the whole evil stepmom thing is disney, not reality, right?  Yeah some step parents are jerks but so are some biological parents.  

    I'm sorry everyone is giving you so much crap, it's absolutely ridiculous of them.  Saying you're not a real mom because you're not the biological parent isn't just offensive to you, it's offensive to anyone who has ever adopted a child.  Parents are the people who raise you and love you.  Wether you happen to share DNA with them or not is irrelevant.
    Really?  They all seem pretty evil to me.
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  • My first thought was"the team mom is a bitch" !   I think you should call her out on this with a phone call.
  • phiraphira member
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    @HisGirlFriday13 Yeah, it's like, "I mean, it's less awful than DEALING WITH HIM."
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  • @phira A.MEN. I have said to people, after being asked several times, 'Well, I don't question your life choices, now do I?' and then they usually drop it, but MAN it bugs me.

    And ditto -- it's much less awful than dealing with any of them. Although BSC granny has been calling DH and trying to get him to agree to a 'family dinner' on Saturday night. That's been fun. /sarcasm
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  • lc07lc07 member
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    This is so weird, OP. You're not good enough to sign up to bring snacks because you aren't a bio-mom? They don't want you to fundraise? This lady's all sorts of cra-zy.
  • doeydo said:
    These people do realize the whole evil stepmom thing is disney, not reality, right?  Yeah some step parents are jerks but so are some biological parents.  

    I'm sorry everyone is giving you so much crap, it's absolutely ridiculous of them.  Saying you're not a real mom because you're not the biological parent isn't just offensive to you, it's offensive to anyone who has ever adopted a child.  Parents are the people who raise you and love you.  Wether you happen to share DNA with them or not is irrelevant.
    Really?  They all seem pretty evil to me.
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    Please please please tell me you were thinking of me when you wrote this..."sarcasm"

    OP - I am glad  you sent the email and hope to  hear an update later on.  The way you were treated is inexcusable.

    I am a stepmom (but was not a custodial one) and my 2 bioDDs have a stepmom.  It is not up to team mom to decide your role and how you will be included.  She makes me angry for you, and so does your mom.  Kudos to FI for having your back (especially with your mom!).

    My stepDDs are grown now (although I would still do this given the opportunity) but I used to introduce myself to their friends as "C's wicked stepmom" or "S's evil stepmom".

  • afox007 said:
    I got an email this morning saying she would add me. FI also got an email saying I was added to the list, but she would really appreciate the moms email address. FI replied with a short simple email that just said here is DS's mom's email and listed my email address.
    seriously? what a cuntwaffle (can I steal that?). Good job FI! :)

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  • afox007 said:
    I got an email this morning saying she would add me. FI also got an email saying I was added to the list, but she would really appreciate the moms email address. FI replied with a short simple email that just said here is DS's mom's email and listed my email address.
    THIS STILL PISSES ME OFF. It's none of her freaking business what your son's bio-mom's e-mail address is. It's just not. If you and FI -- YOUR SON'S PARENTS -- are saying, 'We are the point of contact for this child,' then BY GOD that needs to be good enough for her. 

    Whatever her own personal feelings are about step-mothers -- and I don't know, maybe she had an awful step-mother like my friend's wife is being to his kids -- she needs to put them aside.

    I applaud your FI for what he did. I would probably have added a line about, 'This is the last time I am going to tell you this, so please pay attention. My son's bio-mom IS. NOT. IN. THE. PICTURE. His mother, for the purposes you need, is afox007, and here is her e-mail address and phone number. I trust that having now told you this three times, you will have internalised the information and we will not have to have this conversation again.'
    Now you have me all fired up again! Everyone here and FI calmed me down and now I'm determined to go on a crusade on behalf of all stepmoms in the baseball league :)
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  • @afox007 - Go your FI!!!  That's an awesome response!  As to the team Witch, ignore her and her ignorance.   She probably hasn't experienced enough diversity in her life and is ignorant of how to deal with it.
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