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Engagement Party Ruined by Fiance. Sad, Disheartened, Confused. HELP!

My fiance and I have been engaged since December of 2013, but have been together for 6 years and 11 months. He comes from a very damaged family. To summarize, 10 years ago, his father suffered a traumatic brain injury (which later led to seizures) but he has since recovered and lives a normal lifestyle. As a result of the injury, his father and mother had grown apart and endured a marriage filled with cheating, verbal altercations, and long term absence from the children. His younger sister was sexually abused by a female neighbor around the age of 9, and later suffered an eating disorder in the forms of anorexia and bulimia. His mother suffers from undiagnosed borderline personality disorder, alcohol addiction, and depression. Somehow, my fiance has managed to rise from all of this as an incredibly intelligent and loving man, who cares for me a great deal.

That being said, he falls short in loving me in a lot of ways. He fails to communicate effectively (discussions are often one sided and marked by his silence). He falls short in trying to make me feel special (holidays are commemmorated with measly, late gifts... or forgotten altogether). He has become antisocial (refusing to meet up with friends), and more. Whenever we discuss these issues, he promises that he loves me dearly (which I believe), but simply does not know how to express it due to his traumatic upbringing. Please understand that I sympathize with this, and have spent the last 7 years of our relationship working tirelessly to meet his needs, encourage him, make him feel wanted, needed, and loved. As far as he says, I have succeeded. However, in the end, I find that I greatly suffer.

The most recent issue is our engagement party. My parents have shelled out $5,500 to host a beautiful party at a nearby hotel, and have invited all of our close family members and friends. Please note that I asked my fiance on MULTIPLE occasions about the party (where would he like it? who did he want to invite? what did he want to eat/drink? did he want to purchase gifts for his groomsmen? Everything!). Now that the party has been booked, invitations have been ordered, gifts have been coordinated, family members and friends have been put on alert... he tells me that he wants to CANCEL because he HATES his family! My heart is broken, and I can't help but feel sad and discouraged. Why couldn't he tell me sooner? I value his opinion and worked tirelessly to ensure that every detail of the party met his wishes. I am heartbroken.

So my question is... are my feelings of sadness selfish? Should I cancel and save my parent's money? Do I proceed with the party because people are expecting it? and most importantly... Should I feel comfortable marrying someone that has the potential to ruin such a happy occasion? PLEASE HELP!
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Re: Engagement Party Ruined by Fiance. Sad, Disheartened, Confused. HELP!

  • Wow, yeah.  Your story sounds similar to two friends of mine.  One is in a miserable marriage where they're in the verge of divorce every 6 months and the other one is getting divorced.   

    So I would definitely recommend postponement and counseling at the least.  
  • It's super creepy for a mother to marry her child, which is clearly the relationship you have with this person. Why on earth would you settle for someone who won't (can't?) be an equal partner to you?
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  • ditto PPs. Sounds like cancelling the party may be the best thing. And examining if you want to go ahead with the wedding at all. It can't be easy to break something off after so many years, but it may be for the better.

    Good luck.
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  • Sometimes love isn't enough. It isn't up to you to fix him. Postpone. 

    TBH I don't get along with my family very well and there's a lot of problems, but I wouldn't pull this kind of crap. 
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  • Cancel the party and postpone (or cancel) the wedding.  Seriously.  I feel bad that your Fi has gone through so much trauma and had a difficult life, but that does NOT mean he gets to turn around and sabotage your relationship.  Lots of people with traumatic upbringings are able to move on through seeking counseling and really working at resolving their issues.  It sounds like your Fi has not done the hard, emotional work of moving on.

    The party is not important in the grand scheme of things.  Cancel it, save that money for your parents, and postpone the wedding until these issues are sorted out.
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  • Cancel the party. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter that people are expecting this party. I would also suggest holding off on wedding planning (or possibly postponning is you have things set up). I question how you were able to be with someone who does not treat you as you deserve to be treated for so long. I am very sorry that he had such a traumatic upbringing, but that is no excuse for how he is treating you. It has been 7 years, and from your post it seems that he has not made an effort to reciprocate your love at all. You really need to go to counseling, or as hard as this sounds, as other PP's have mentioned think about possibly canceling the wedding. Are you willing to go through this for the rest of your life? You deserve love and happiness just like everyone else.

    As a side note, a good friend of mine experienced a bad childhood. His dad was basically never in his life, and his mom was a druggie/alcoholic. She used to take him to pool halls and bars as a kid while she was in there drinking, basically leaving him there unattended. He was beaten, stabbed, starved and so many other things. Today? He is a successful man, married and raising 2 beautiful little girls. From what I can see, he is a very supportive and loving husband. So your FI can rise above his upbringing, but at the moment he chooses not to. I really wish you the best of luck in this situation.
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  • This isn't about a party- it's about your fiance's deep emotional issues that he needs to work out. It sounds like he's dealing with depression- could be clinical or it could just be him trying to process and work through his childhood on his own. But I really strongly suggest that he work through those before you do any more planning. 
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  • get. therapy. now.
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  • You know, love as a feeling isn't inherently valuable to anyone other than the person feeling it.  It becomes valuable to the person who is loved because that feeling motivates and inspires loving acts toward that person.  If someone feels love for you and gets to enjoy all those warm squishies, but that doesn't inspire him to act out all of those feelings toward you, then he has already gotten enough reward for that love.  You owe him nothing, because he has given you nothing.

     @Returnofkuus I just have to say the way you put this was great! I love it! I kind of want to cut and paste and make a face book posting out of it. Of course the funny part would be people scratching there heads when at the end it says "quote by Returnofkuus"...
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  •  @Returnofkuus I just have to say the way you put this was great! I love it! I kind of want to cut and paste and make a face book posting out of it. Of course the funny part would be people scratching there heads when at the end it says "quote by Returnofkuus"...
    My real name is Aletheia, if that helps.
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  • OP Your Fi almost sounds like my husband. My husband had an awful childhood and is rising above that. Your Fi might want some counseling. The party definitely doesn't sound like a good idea right now. As for the love thing, he just might not know how to show it. I have to tell my husband how I see love, which for me is cuddles. So he knows that the best way to show me love is to suggest we order pizza and watch Netflix while cuddling. You're husband might need some direction on showing love. He also might not think holidays are a big deal. I taught my husband how I like to celebrate holidays and we compromise.

    Ps. To anyone who wants to know, we've scheduled our first counseling session.
  • @Teddy917 I am so glad you scheduled a counselling session. I hope its helps you and your H get to a better place.
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  • I'm not quite sure what you mean by this... If you have time, maybe elaborate? Thanks!
  • You're super insightful.. thanks for your reply!
  • Tough crowd! But thanks for your honesty. I've seriously considered many of your thoughts (and thrown some of the brainless and negative comments away), and here is an update for those of you that may be interested:

    The night after I saw some of these posts, my fiance and I decided to meet up with his father. We discussed their past family issues and came to the conclusion that all of us would see a psychologist. We have an appointment this Wednesday. My fiance needs to tackle many of his family issues before he can have a healthy marriage and family... we all understand that and have agreed to help him through. Many of his communication issues stem from his family problems. During our meeting with his father, my fiance let us know that he has trouble communicating problems because his parents mis-handled troublesome situations when he was little, and no one ever considered his feelings. He cried, and thanked me for 'giving him a voice'. He let us know that I am the only person that has ever loved him completely, and that he will do whatever it takes to see me feel the same. He just needs to learn new skills, because no one else has ever done it for him. This does not make my fiance disposable, and worthy of leaving behind. To anyone who simply advised that I break it off without offering helpful advice, you are a heartless woman and I will pray for your significant other and future children.

    Also, I have alerted my family to our issues, and they have agreed to lend a helping hand with whatever we need. We are all family, and care for one another enough to help, not just dispose of a person who is very worthy of the love and care that he never received.

    As for the wedding, there is no date set, and we are going to take our time with planning the event. My fiance's health, and the health of our relationship matters way more than any party. To those of you who alluded to that issue, you are all most certainly right, and I thank you for your insight. Many of you gave wonderful advice, and I am so glad to have heard from you!

    As for the rest of you who spew stupidity and negativity, I guess someone in the world has to be a disgruntled diner waitress.


  • thejucheideathejucheidea member
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    BCH325 said:
    To anyone who simply advised that I break it off without offering helpful advice, you are a heartless woman and I will pray for your significant other and future children.

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    As for the rest of you who spew stupidity and negativity, I guess someone in the world has to be a disgruntled diner waitress.


    I think I'm lumped into the helpful ones (but don't know who the positive responses were directed toward in the posts above?), but lol, it's a new 'I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR HUSBANDS'.

    I'm glad you guys are getting the help you need and wish you the best in the future.

  • thejucheidea you are so insightful and wonderful!! :-)
  • It definitely sounds like a good plan not to worry about getting married at this time.
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  • I guess someone in the world has to be a disgruntled diner waitress.

     

    That's a first.

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  • My real name is Aletheia, if that helps.
    That is a beautiful name.  I'm sure you already know this, but it means "truth" in Greek. 



  • You shouldn't cancel it. It would be rude to you and your parents, as well as selfish, if ya'll canceled it because he doesn't want to see his family. I would just have him un-invite his relatives. Saves the awkwardness for when you guys actually get married. If he doesn't want them at an engagement party, I'm sure he would feel the same for the wedding day.

    Sorry to hear! :(
  • You shouldn't cancel it. It would be rude to you and your parents, as well as selfish, if ya'll canceled it because he doesn't want to see his family. I would just have him un-invite his relatives. Saves the awkwardness for when you guys actually get married. If he doesn't want them at an engagement party, I'm sure he would feel the same for the wedding day.

    Sorry to hear! :(
    This is bad advice, and I would not recommend heeding it.

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