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shower discomfort and confusion

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edited April 2014 in Wedding Etiquette Forum

So, so far my shower is turning out to be way more of a hassle than the wedding. My FMIL has a bunch of women she insists have to be invited to the shower for reasons that seem to be political/gift grabby/things that make me uncomfortable. Or some relative's friend is going to be "devastated if she is not invited". I am just uncomfortable with showers in general, and really anxious at the thought of having to announce gifts on a microphone in front of all these people I don't even know. Ugh. I did tell my FMIL this and we got a little bit heated about the guest list. Let me also add that her other children's showers were 100-200 people, where someone was delegated to unwrap a gift, hand it to the bride, who announced what it was/said thank you, handed it to a third person, who quickly packaged it back up. Like an assembly line. Then, a "personal shower" was held at her house for very close female family and friends, maybe 20 people. What I would consider a normal shower. I did make it very clear that I did not want more than one shower.

FI was telling her to back off, that a shower is for the bride, that there is no such thing as a personal shower (vehement disagreement from FMIL and SIL's mother), and to do what I want basically. But I want her to be happy too, they are doing soo much for our wedding and I'm very grateful. (My mom has stepped up and said she wants to pay for the shower but FMIL initially planned on throwing it). It's not that there's particular people I don't want there, it's just the thought of being the center of attention and a third of the guests being strangers to me that makes me uncomfortable.

  Then the subject of invitations came up- she (FMIL) texted me that since she's no longer throwing the shower she wants her name off the invite, thanks, and I can put her name on the wedding invitation. (What, we weren't planning to do that.. I guess that's a subject for another thread). That's when I realized that these women she's inviting aren't even going to know who I am when they get the shower invitation. I mentioned this and she said that for her daughter's wedding, they wrote "fiance of ..." under her name. I don't even know how to put into words that that whole thing just makes me so uncomfortable. I just do not want to be part of an event where I have to label "fiance of" so that the invitees even know who I am. I feel like people who do not know who I am should probably not be invited. But I also don't want to cause drama and hurt my FMIL's feelings etc. when she's only trying to do nice things for me.

 Should I just let this all go? Can I just put my name on the invitation, maybe these people will not know who I am and not come? :) Is it standard practice to write "fiance of" and not know all the guests, and I'm just being crazy?

Is the shower for FI and I, or just me? Even that point confuses me...

and have you ever heard of a personal shower??

Sorry so long! :)

 

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  • I have never ever heard of a "personal shower". Honestly I'd be tempted to decline all showers if they were going to be that large. I think you are right to feel overwhelmed, and she should try to respect that.

    Perhaps you need a new approach: have you let her know that you feel overwhelmed by the idea of there being that many people? Not from the perspective of thinking it's rude, or something like that, so you're not offending her--just perhaps suggesting that you can't mentally handle that many people at once.
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  • Everything your FMIL suggests? Just do the opposite of.
    If any one invited doesn't know who you are by your name, then they can either find out or decline.

    And, honestly, I don't think anyone should be invited who doesn't know you. The shower is for you, not for your in-laws to score you gifts. It's just so bizarre. Large showers are one thing, to each their own, but the guests not knowing the bride at the shower? WTF?
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  • A bridal shower is for the bride's nearest and dearest friends and family.  If the groom's family wants to host a shower for their side of the family it is fine as long as the guests lists don't overlap (except for moms and siblings).

    1) All wedding guests DO NOT need to be invited to the shower, but ALL invited shower guests need to be invited.  Maybe you can use this to trim down the list.

    In my opinion anything over 30 people is too much unless you honestly have a large family.  I can understand your discomfort over having that many people stare at you (and if there are so many people you have to use a microphone to be heard it is another sign it is too big).

    If FMIL can't trim the guest list to something you are comfortable with then you can decline the shower.

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  • Question - are these random friends of FMIL invited to the wedding?  If not, it is completely inappropriate to invite them to the shower.  So that can be your way out.  Tell her your shower guest list wll be made up of only women that are invited to the wedding.  Leave it at that.

     

    Ideally, either the wedding invitations or STDs go out before the shower invitatons, so since everyone that is being invited to the shower is also in possession of a wedding invitation or STD, they should recognized your name.  I just had my shower last weekend, and a few of FI's relatives that I had never met did attend.  But they knew who I was because they had received a STD and wedding invitation with both my name and FI's name on it.  You should absolutely not have to write "fiancee of" below your name on an invitation for a party being thrown in your honor.  That is preposterous.

     

    If all of these random women ARE being inited to the wedding i have to ask - why are you doing that?  is FMIL paying for the reception?  if they're being invited to the wedding, you may as well get used to being the center of attention for hundreds of people you've never met before at your shower, because it will happen again at the wedding.

     

    Big ups to your FI for supporting you.

  • My mother is paying for the shower. FMIL just assumed from the beginning she would be throwing it, but wanted to include my mom- after looking at things and realizing the cost was manageable for her, my mom said she would like to do it. (FI's parents are paying for the majority of our wedding and mine are unable to contribute). 

    A personal shower to FMIL has nothing to do with lingerie- from what I can figure, it just means it's more personal than the huge other shower you had.

    I think part of this is that FI is the youngest- FMIL has planned 3 weddings, which were much larger affairs, and has it set in her mind how everything should go and the guest list already set in place.  The smallest I could possibly get our wedding guest list was down to 180- FMIL keeps telling everyone what a small wedding we are having. :-\

     

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  • You're not wrong, that's crazy town to have 200 people at a shower.  The invitees should be closed friends and relatives., not strangers and courtesy invites.

    I don't even know if you could call those courtesy invites since being summoned to give a gift is hardly a courtesy.

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  • scribe95 said:
    If she is no longer throwing the shower then who is? 
    True.  If your mom is doing it now, then give her your guest list and call it a day.

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  • So, so far my shower is turning out to be way more of a hassle than the wedding. My FMIL has a bunch of women she insists have to be invited to the shower for reasons that seem to be political/gift grabby/things that make me uncomfortable. Or some relative's friend is going to be "devastated if she is not invited". I am just uncomfortable with showers in general, and really anxious at the thought of having to announce gifts on a microphone in front of all these people I don't even know. Ugh. I did tell my FMIL this and we got a little bit heated about the guest list. Let me also add that her other children's showers were 100-200 people, where someone was delegated to unwrap a gift, hand it to the bride, who announced what it was/said thank you, handed it to a third person, who quickly packaged it back up. Like an assembly line. Then, a "personal shower" was held at her house for very close female family and friends, maybe 20 people. What I would consider a normal shower. I did make it very clear that I did not want more than one shower.

    FI was telling her to back off, that a shower is for the bride, that there is no such thing as a personal shower (vehement disagreement from FMIL and SIL's mother), and to do what I want basically. But I want her to be happy too, they are doing soo much for our wedding and I'm very grateful. (My mom has stepped up and said she wants to pay for the shower but FMIL initially planned on throwing it). It's not that there's particular people I don't want there, it's just the thought of being the center of attention and a third of the guests being strangers to me that makes me uncomfortable.

      Then the subject of invitations came up- she (FMIL) texted me that since she's no longer throwing the shower she wants her name off the invite, thanks, and I can put her name on the wedding invitation. (What, we weren't planning to do that.. I guess that's a subject for another thread). That's when I realized that these women she's inviting aren't even going to know who I am when they get the shower invitation. I mentioned this and she said that for her daughter's wedding, they wrote "fiance of ..." under her name. I don't even know how to put into words that that whole thing just makes me so uncomfortable. I just do not want to be part of an event where I have to label "fiance of" so that the invitees even know who I am. I feel like people who do not know who I am should probably not be invited. But I also don't want to cause drama and hurt my FMIL's feelings etc. when she's only trying to do nice things for me.

     Should I just let this all go? Can I just put my name on the invitation, maybe these people will not know who I am and not come? :) Is it standard practice to write "fiance of" and not know all the guests, and I'm just being crazy?

    Is the shower for FI and I, or just me? Even that point confuses me...

    and have you ever heard of a personal shower??

    Sorry so long! :)


    If she's no longer throwing the shower she no longer gets input.  In other words she doesn't get to have her 200 guests, 2nd "personal shower", or people who you have no idea who they are.  It makes perfect sense to remove her name from the shower invitation since she is not the host.  

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  • They are all invited to the wedding.  And my shower list is at about 60, which is a lot more manageable than 200.  FI does have a huge family, I do not.
    Everything your FMIL suggests? Just do the opposite of.
    If any one invited doesn't know who you are by your name, then they can either find out or decline.

    And, honestly, I don't think anyone should be invited who doesn't know you. The shower is for you, not for your in-laws to score you gifts. It's just so bizarre. Large showers are one thing, to each their own, but the guests not knowing the bride at the shower? WTF?
    Thank you... thanks everyone.  I honestly just wasn't confident about my own feelings.  I guess it's tough feeling like you are clear on what's right and makes sense, but in real life I can't very well tell FMIL that she's wrong in her firm beliefs, because women on a website told me so. :-D

     

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  • Oh my gosh I can't imagine giving my guest list to my mom and not inviting any of FMIL's guests.  She would go crazy.  And not in an angry kind of way, in a hurt kind of way.

    OK, I'm definitely not putting "fiance of" on the invitations.  I think that's what really sent me over the edge in the first place.

     

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  • Oh my gosh I can't imagine giving my guest list to my mom and not inviting any of FMIL's guests.  She would go crazy.  And not in an angry kind of way, in a hurt kind of way.

    OK, I'm definitely not putting "fiance of" on the invitations.  I think that's what really sent me over the edge in the first place.

    Good call.
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  • Everything your FMIL suggests? Just do the opposite of.
    If any one invited doesn't know who you are by your name, then they can either find out or decline.

    And, honestly, I don't think anyone should be invited who doesn't know you. The shower is for you, not for your in-laws to score you gifts. It's just so bizarre. Large showers are one thing, to each their own, but the guests not knowing the bride at the shower? WTF?

    I dont think this is all that crazy. I met several of MIL'S friends at my shower. She's close to them and they were invited to the wedding and I met them that day. We're talking about 5 or 6 women that do this for each other as their kids get married and have babies. Similarly, DH'S extended family is rather large and while I had met all of them before my shower, SIL lives 600 miles away and meet some of those relatives and friends for the first time. This was perfectly acceptable for this social group.
  • To me, at least in current times, a shower is for both the B&G even if it is often only the bride and her female friends/relatives/groom's relatives who are there.

    Though I've also been to co-ed showers where both the B&G are in attendance and both male and female friends and relatives are there.

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  • I personally feel that if your FMIL has taken herself out of the planning and not contributing anything financially to the shower than her extra guests whom you do not know and are not inviting to the wedding should not be invited.  If she wants to throw a gigantic shindig with random people you don't know that she needs to do it herself.  Maybe this isn't a hill to die on for you, but I would  be extremely uncomfortable having my own mother host people I don't know and didn't care to invite. 

    Personal note:  My shower was a few weeks ago, hosted by my MOH and my FMIL had no say in guests.  She didn't ask and I didn't advertise.  There were quite a few women that I didn't invite because they're only on the wedding guest list because of FI's family (friends), and I did this because I did not want people to think that they were only invited to give me a gift.
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  • @Rebl90,  I see what you are saying, and really I agree and that's how I feel.  I just don't know if it's that simple. 

    My FMIL just started, quickly and on her own, to plan a shower for me.  She invited my mom to host it with her, although at that point she already had location, favors, etc chosen in her mind.  I think once my mom actually started thinking about the shower (FMIL has hosted 3 weddings, I don't know if my mother has even BEEN to 3 weddings), she thought it was something she should be throwing/paying for, and she told FMIL that she wanted to pay for it but they would still be cohosting.  Somewhere in here, my mom chose a completely different venue, favors, everything, that was more "me".  Which I am relieved about, but we basically completely co-opted the shower, even though FMIL took it upon herself in the first place,  I kind of feel like it would add insult to injury to not invite her guests.

    After reading everyone's input, I think it was the invitation thing that put me over the edge.  I'll stick with the guest list, and people who recognize my name can come, and I'll deal with it and be grateful ;) 

    Thanks for your advice!

     

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  • I think the guest list should be up to the bride (or bride and groom if it is a couple's shower) as long as the shower guests are invited to the wedding and whoever is hosting the shower has agreed that they can host X amount of guests.
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