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luckya23 · May 2014

I guess I'm in the minority that the double standard doesn't really bother me - and that naked dudes don't so much do it for me either! lol

My SO has bigger ones than me, so neither of us will be out in public topless! lol

lilacck28 · May 2014

I don't want to walk around topless, but double standards like this on top of the vast amount of injustice related to gender politics really really makes me angry. This particular "women's bodies are so tempting and evil and sexual and they must be covered" is ridiculous and part of the rampant rape culture that is pervading the world. I can't even... it makes me so mad.

eilis1228 · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

I don't want to walk around topless, but double standards like this on top of the vast amount of injustice related to gender politics really really makes me angry. This particular "women's bodies are so tempting and evil and sexual and they must be covered" is ridiculous and part of the rampant rape culture that is pervading the world. I can't even... it makes me so mad.

PREACH! I hate that when a woman is raped, one of the first questions asked is, "Well, what was she wearing?" Why the fuck does that matter? It enrages me!

BreMR · May 2014

Late to the party here, but I was raised in a house where I could not walk around with my top off by the time I was about 8.. but my brother was ALWAYS roaming around shirtless. So naturally I was raised to think that women's upper-half was more private. However, I am a total free bird when it comes to my own nudity... I've often sunbathed nude, skinny dipped, I walk around my own house naked quite often... I am definitely not offended by boobs.

Blue & White · May 2014

@breMR isn't it bizarre how brothers walk around half naked all the time? My brother AND my H's brother have both just walked by in boxers and nothing else while I was there...

I guess since I'm a teacher the question is how can we change this in society? Obviously people that care about this sort of thing will likely pass it on to their children, but I feel like we are still in the minority (although, thankfully, I THINK the minority is growing and getting a bit more media coverage.)

I'm not saying we all have to run around topless all the time. I'm saying that we all should be proud and accept our bodies as they are and not feel shamed by flashing a boob while feeding our kids or something

Peaseblossom55 · May 2014

When I spent the summer in europe for grad school I went to the beaches there, most were topless and some were clothing optional. It was just nice to see how a woman being topless over there was no big deal at all. I don't get why it is over here. I really wanted to go topless, it would have been fun but I didn't want to be the one girl in the MBA program to go topless on the beach.... I wish I had though....

I'm not sure what Instragram's deal is I'v never been on the website before.

Blue & White · May 2014

@peaseblossom55 I feel like facebook has had issues with their "no nipples" policy before too, so same idea.

lilacck28 · May 2014

My family is liberal, and open-minded, and generally very thoughtful. But my mother freaked out if I walked around in my pajamas (usually a tshirt/ some type of bottoms) without a bra. "Your father and brother will see you! It is not appropriate!" Of course, she didn't want my brother or father walking around shirtless either. I'm pretty modest in my clothing, and certainly body conscious when it comes to myself, and I judge people's butts hanging out of their pants (really? You want to reference your asses availability in prison?), but nudity in general doesn't bother me at all. Maybe it was all the figure drawing classes I took.

bethsmiles · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

My family is liberal, and open-minded, and generally very thoughtful. But my mother freaked out if I walked around in my pajamas (usually a tshirt/ some type of bottoms) without a bra. "Your father and brother will see you! It is not appropriate!" Of course, she didn't want my brother or father walking around shirtless either. I'm pretty modest in my clothing, and certainly body conscious when it comes to myself, and I judge people's butts hanging out of their pants (really? You want to reference your asses availability in prison?), but nudity in general doesn't bother me at all. Maybe it was all the figure drawing classes I took.

That's funny because my parents (especially my mom) are pretty conservative and can be close-minded about things but nudity was never an issue at our house. We have a ridiculous number of pictures of my brother and me running around topless when we were little.

Swazzle · May 2014

Kelani23 said:

I guess I'm in the minority that the double standard doesn't really bother me - and that naked dudes don't so much do it for me either! lol
My SO has bigger ones than me, so neither of us will be out in public topless! lol

Do you also believe a woman should not breast feed in public?

luckya23 · May 2014

I probably wouldn't do it, but I guess I don't have a problem with it.

My sister is currently BFing, I don't think she could get used to it either. She goes in the other room around our family.

GoldenPenguin · May 2014

Kelani23 said:

I guess I'm in the minority that the double standard doesn't really bother me - and that naked dudes don't so much do it for me either! lol
My SO has bigger ones than me, so neither of us will be out in public topless! lol

I just CANNOT IMAGINE being a woman and not caring about the double standard and how it perpetuates rape culture in this country.

Or how you can say something like "men are different beasts" like it's okay for women to not be able to go topless because all men are animals who can't control themselves. Do you think that if a woman is drunk, or if she goes home with a guy, or is wearing a short skirt, it's her fault if she gets raped, because HE couldn't control himself?

Some things make me go RAGING feminist, and this is one of them.

lilacck28 · May 2014

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

GoldenPenguin · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

I think it's kind of strange, but to each their own. I personally wouldn't want an unpredictable child with sharp teeth near my nipples, but that's why I'm not having children.

luckya23 · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

Yuck, and my nephew will be a year in 1 month.

Like my cousin, I don't think sis will give it up until he refuses it!

lilacck28 · May 2014

GoldenPenguin said:

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

I think it's kind of strange, but to each their own. I personally wouldn't want an unpredictable child with sharp teeth near my nipples, but that's why I'm not having children.

My thoughts exactly.

lilacck28 · May 2014

ps- @goldenpenguin , was it you who I saw mentioned living in Maine? I went to college in Maine! Love it there.

Swazzle · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

I think over a certain age, it's a bit strange. I don't happen to know what age that is though. I don't know much about kids' ages and when things are "supposed" to happen, honestly.

There was that magazine cover a few years ago and the woman on the cover was BFing an older child and it definitely shocked me.

BreMR · May 2014

I stick by the quote from Sex and the City "If the kid is old enough to eat a steak, he should not be breastfeeding" haha!!

luckya23 · May 2014

GoldenPenguin said:

Kelani23 said:

I guess I'm in the minority that the double standard doesn't really bother me - and that naked dudes don't so much do it for me either! lol
My SO has bigger ones than me, so neither of us will be out in public topless! lol

I just CANNOT IMAGINE being a woman and not caring about the double standard and how it perpetuates rape culture in this country.

Or how you can say something like "men are different beasts" like it's okay for women to not be able to go topless because all men are animals who can't control themselves. Do you think that if a woman is drunk, or if she goes home with a guy, or is wearing a short skirt, it's her fault if she gets raped, because HE couldn't control himself?

Some things make me go RAGING feminist, and this is one of them.

Of course I don't think it would be her fault, but I'm not really an advocate for a naked society! I think everyone should be wearing clothes in public - No shirt, no shoes, no service!

It's not that I think men can't control themselves. Of course they should. I don't want to have to see many naked parts in public, because let's be honest - who is really that great looking to want to ogle??

I don't feel at all repressed by being expected to wear a shirt, that's all. I would wear one anyway for the good of humanity.

GoldenPenguin · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

ps- @goldenpenguin , was it you who I saw mentioned living in Maine? I went to college in Maine! Love it there.

I grew up in Maine! My whole family still lives there (within like a 10 minute radius - I'm the black sheep who left), and I absolutely love going back to visit. Where did you go to school? You can PM me if you don't want to put it out there

bethsmiles · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

It's recommended that you breastfeed for the first year (6 months exclusively and for support up to the 1st year mark) and I can see going to year 2 but I'm not sure if I personally would do it any longer than that.

But there doesn't seem to be any documented evidence that it negatively impacts kids to do it longer, aside from one or two news articles that pop up on Google citing possible tooth decay after year 2 of breastfeeding. So I guess whatever floats your boat.

buddysmom80 · May 2014

I give BF moms a ton of credit because as of right now if I had a kid, I'll pay the $30 a day for formula thank you very much.

My one BM BF her son up until 2.5 years old because she wanted to lose weight. What about teeth???? Ouch!!!!!

lilacck28 · May 2014

bethsmiles said:

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

It's recommended that you breastfeed for the first year (6 months exclusively and for support up to the 1st year mark) and I can see going to year 2 but I'm not sure if I personally would do it any longer than that.

But there doesn't seem to be any documented evidence that it negatively impacts kids to do it longer, aside from one or two news articles that pop up on Google citing possible tooth decay after year 2 of breastfeeding. So I guess whatever floats your boat.

My dad is a dentist. This would be a major no no in my house.

I'm by no means an expert, but I've tended to feel like biology says its time for you (child) to be eating solid food, which means breast milk is no longer necessary. It was hard enough for me to leave the nest as it (daddy's girl, mommy's girl), I wouldn't want to make it even harder on my future kids! Although, is that the "attachment parenting" theory? That breast feeding and sleeping with your kids for a long time makes them feel safer and therefore able to be independent quicker? I don't know. I haven't read up on it, because I know I'm keeping the chompers away from me!

lilacck28 · May 2014

GoldenPenguin said:

lilacck28 said:

ps- @goldenpenguin , was it you who I saw mentioned living in Maine? I went to college in Maine! Love it there.

I grew up in Maine! My whole family still lives there (within like a 10 minute radius - I'm the black sheep who left), and I absolutely love going back to visit. Where did you go to school? You can PM me if you don't want to put it out there

Just sent one!

bethsmiles · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

bethsmiles said:

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

It's recommended that you breastfeed for the first year (6 months exclusively and for support up to the 1st year mark) and I can see going to year 2 but I'm not sure if I personally would do it any longer than that.

But there doesn't seem to be any documented evidence that it negatively impacts kids to do it longer, aside from one or two news articles that pop up on Google citing possible tooth decay after year 2 of breastfeeding. So I guess whatever floats your boat.

My dad is a dentist. This would be a major no no in my house.

I'm by no means an expert, but I've tended to feel like biology says its time for you (child) to be eating solid food, which means breast milk is no longer necessary. It was hard enough for me to leave the nest as it (daddy's girl, mommy's girl), I wouldn't want to make it even harder on my future kids! Although, is that the "attachment parenting" theory? That breast feeding and sleeping with your kids for a long time makes them feel safer and therefore able to be independent quicker? I don't know. I haven't read up on it, because I know I'm keeping the chompers away from me!

From my very brief, not deep research of it - there aren't any studies that show that kids who breastfeed longer would be less independent. And from what I've read on attachment parents (not much) I do think that is one of the ideas behind that approach to parenting.

GoldenPenguin · May 2014

lilacck28 said:

bethsmiles said:

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

It's recommended that you breastfeed for the first year (6 months exclusively and for support up to the 1st year mark) and I can see going to year 2 but I'm not sure if I personally would do it any longer than that.

But there doesn't seem to be any documented evidence that it negatively impacts kids to do it longer, aside from one or two news articles that pop up on Google citing possible tooth decay after year 2 of breastfeeding. So I guess whatever floats your boat.

My dad is a dentist. This would be a major no no in my house.

I'm by no means an expert, but I've tended to feel like biology says its time for you (child) to be eating solid food, which means breast milk is no longer necessary. It was hard enough for me to leave the nest as it (daddy's girl, mommy's girl), I wouldn't want to make it even harder on my future kids! Although, is that the "attachment parenting" theory? That breast feeding and sleeping with your kids for a long time makes them feel safer and therefore able to be independent quicker? I don't know. I haven't read up on it, because I know I'm keeping the chompers away from me!

Everything I've ever seen about attachment parenting seems the complete opposite. I haven't done any research though, so I could be 100% wrong, but it seems counterproductive?

bethsmiles · May 2014

GoldenPenguin said:

lilacck28 said:

bethsmiles said:

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

It's recommended that you breastfeed for the first year (6 months exclusively and for support up to the 1st year mark) and I can see going to year 2 but I'm not sure if I personally would do it any longer than that.

But there doesn't seem to be any documented evidence that it negatively impacts kids to do it longer, aside from one or two news articles that pop up on Google citing possible tooth decay after year 2 of breastfeeding. So I guess whatever floats your boat.

My dad is a dentist. This would be a major no no in my house.

I'm by no means an expert, but I've tended to feel like biology says its time for you (child) to be eating solid food, which means breast milk is no longer necessary. It was hard enough for me to leave the nest as it (daddy's girl, mommy's girl), I wouldn't want to make it even harder on my future kids! Although, is that the "attachment parenting" theory? That breast feeding and sleeping with your kids for a long time makes them feel safer and therefore able to be independent quicker? I don't know. I haven't read up on it, because I know I'm keeping the chompers away from me!

Everything I've ever seen about attachment parenting seems the complete opposite. I haven't done any research though, so I could be 100% wrong, but it seems counterproductive?

Agreed. It seems like it would make kids a lot less independent but I think it is actually supposed to make them more independent somehow. I don't really get it, I'd have to do way more research on it.

beanbot2002 · June 2014

Kelani23 said:

I probably wouldn't do it, but I guess I don't have a problem with it.
My sister is currently BFing, I don't think she could get used to it either. She goes in the other room around our family.

Are you kidding me?? I just don't get that. As a currently BFing mom, I just don't get it at all. Shoot, half the time our 11 year old son is sitting next to me watching TV. He sees nothing wrong with it, because there is NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. Nothing sexual about it, I'm just feeding his little brother. I'm so glad that I can help him to see that breasts aren't these taboo things that must be kept under wraps. If I had to go into another room every time No-Uh wanted to eat (which can be all the damn time some days) I'd never see my family. On Saturday, we were out at the mall. No-Uh was hungry. Oh no! What's a mom to do??? Uh...I popped myself down on a bench in the middle of the mall and nursed him. Of the many people who walked by I got only 2 side eyes. Guess who they were from? Two teenage girls. Not even the teenage boys or the grandpa that walked by had an issue with it. Nope. Two teenage girls. And I was sad for them. I hope that as they grow and mature, they realize that their bodies are to be celebrated and cherished, and not shamed under a blanket.

beanbot2002 · June 2014

lilacck28 said:

On the topic of breastfeeding... thoughts on kids breast feeding when they're older? like, older than a year, with teeth, eating solid food? I know its a current hot thing, and I firmly believe in "your body, your choice" but.... I'll be honest, I find it strange. Curious to hear other opinions.

I nursed Bean (currently 11) until he was almost 2. By that point he was down to nursing just once a day, when I got home from work. I didn't find it to be strange or icky at all. I was glad that I could continue to provide that comfort to him. But, at the same time, when he weened (it happened very suddenly and was my choice) I was happy too.

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