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HELP! Bridesmaids/Groomsmen issues!!

babs0726babs0726 member
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edited June 2014 in Wedding Party
This is my first post, by the way! 

My wedding is July 26 and things are turning into a catastrophe!! I will start with the bridesmaids... So my sister(MOH) and I planned a sort of "destination" bachelorette party.. us girls planned to go to Minneapolis and the guys would go to Kansas City. We live in Iowa, so the drive was about 5 hours each way. No big deal! The stay for the weekend in a huge rented house for us girls was $80 a person and then we planned to cook our own food and mainly relax.  Not cheap, but not a giant expense either.   So we invited all of my girls, KNOWING that not everyone would be able to come due to work and money.  We also invited a few other girls that aren't a part of the party. The girls that said they could come were supposed to pay up front, because that's how the booking works.  We told them clearly that it was non refundable because we had to pay to book early, so they need to be sure that they could come! A week before, three girls still hadn't paid. One girl (who did pay) decided she could not afford it and that she wanted her money back. I told her I was sorry but it wasn't refundable and she proceeded to yell at me about how her bills and child are more important than my party (obviously).  I'm still thinking about just giving her money back, but I just can't see how I can afford it as I had to take the wrap for the other girls that said they were coming, but decided not to. 

So the day came and we left on a Friday. Two girls were supposed to come down Sat am..no shows. One said she was sick, the other said she was on her way and then when she was almost there had to "turn around and couldn't make it" for unknown reasons.. (She probably never left in the first place).  Still, not a big deal if she couldn't come, but so sketchy.  So I was left with just three other girls out of 7 and even though we had a blast, I was very disappointed that the others didn't come. 

The same girl that had to "turn around" asked me a few months ago if she could throw me a bridal shower. I said of course and got her a guest list with addresses, but she hasn't sent out invites and the party is June 29th!  I am NOT greedy, but I have family members asking me when my shower is and if no one is hosting they would like to.  I'm really bad with confrontation so I feel bad saying something even though it's her fault! What do I do??! My MOH is my amazing sister, but she is super broke and hasn't done a whole lot either. :(   I UNDERSTAND that these girls have no obligations to do things for me and that's not what I'm trying to get at whatsoever.  

Now for my FI's side... They planned the same trip to KC and got more guys to attend.   However, his BEST friend growing up told him he would be coming, but when the day came he was nowhere to be found and didn't answer any calls or texts! I feel sooo bad for my hunny.  Once again, he was not upset that he couldn't make it, but the fact that he flat out ignored him the entire weekend.  Another good friend decided last minute he couldn't come because of work but was all over Facebook the whole weekend partying.  And then to top it all off, his best man left all the guys downtown Kansas City with dead phones and no car in the middle of the night to go screw some random chick. They were lost and had to wait two hours and pay $80 for a cab back to the house!! They got back and left him there and drove home.  Yes, the best man is single and he can do as he pleases, but FI is upset because he just wanted to share the experience with him and he doesn't think that a good friend would do that.. I am also very close with the best man and now my FI is talking about kicking him out (and the others) and it really bothers me.  He thinks that the people standing next to us should be great friends no matter what and if they aren't, they don't deserve it.  I'm a very forgiving person and just want this all to go away!  And I certainly don't want to change up the party arrangements this late in the game!    I just don't know what to do! Please give me some advice!! Thanks!
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Re: HELP! Bridesmaids/Groomsmen issues!!

  • Well, you can't kick anyone out without putting your relationships with them in jeopardy, so make that clear to your FI.

    Also, you and your FI need to reduce your expectations of your wedding party members.  The only "duties" they have are to acquire the designated outfits and show up in them sober, on time, in good spirits, and well groomed.  There are no requirements that they throw parties for you or "do things for you" in terms of helping plan the wedding, setup, or cleanup.  So if someone "doesn't make an effort," just chill out.  When to start worrying is if they don't show up at your wedding wearing the appropriate outfit, and/or if they're not on time, sober, and in good spirits-not before.

  • KPBM89KPBM89 member
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    I might not have followed this right, but did you plan your bachelorette party yourself?  And then you asked everyone to pay you and many couldn't?

    No-one is required to throw you a party, whether that be a bachelorette or a bridal shower.  If they do, the host(s) of the party should privately ask the budgets of those involved and then plan something around what fits into everyone's budgets.  

    I'd like to address other points in your post, but I'm getting lost in the big block of text.
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  • phiraphira member
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    This is my first post, by the way! So my wedding is July 26 and things are turning into a catastrophe!! I will start with the bridesmaids... So we planned a sort of "destination" bachelorette party.. us girls planned to go to Minneapolis and the guys would go to Kansas City. We live in Iowa, so the drive was about 5 hours each way. Not a big deal! The stay for the weekend in a huge rented house for us girls was $80 a person and then we planned to cook our own food and mainly relax. (Not a huge expense..) So I invited all of my girls, KNOWING that not everyone could come, and a few other girls that aren't a part of the party. The girls that said they could come were supposed to pay me up front. I told them clearly that it was non refundable because we had to pay to book early, so to BE SURE that they could come! A week before, three girls still hadn't paid. One girl (who did pay) decided she could not afford it and that she wanted her money back. I told her I was sorry but it wasn't refundable and she proceeded to yell at me about how her bills and child are more important than my party (obviously). So the day came and we left on a Friday. Two girls were supposed to come down Sat am..no shows. One said she was sick, the other said she was on her way and then when she was almost there had to "turn around and couldn't make it" for unknown reasons.. (She probably never left in the first place) So I was left with just three other girls out of 7 and even though we had a blast, I was very disappointed that the others didn't make an effort! The same girl that had to "turn around" asked me a few months ago if she could throw me a bridal shower. I said of course and got her a guest list with addresses, but she hasn't even sent out invites and it's June 29th!! I'm really bad with confrontation so I feel bad saying something even though it's her fault! What do I do??! My MOH is my amazing sister, but she is super broke and hasn't done a whole lot either. :( Now for my FI's side... He planned the same trip to KC and got more guys to attend. However, his BEST friend growing up told him he would be coming, but when the day came he was nowhere to be found and didn't answer any calls or texts!! I feel sooo bad for my hunny. Another good friend decided last minute he couldn't come because of work but was all over facebook the whole weekend partying! And then to top it all off, his best man left all the guys downtown Kansas City with dead phones and no car in the middle of the night to go screw some random chick. They were lost and had to wait two hours and pay $80 for a cab back to the house!! They got back and left him there and drove home. I am also very close with the best man and now my FI is talking about kicking him out (and the others) and it really bothers me and I just don't know what to do! Please give me some advice!! Thanks!
    My advice is to chill. You shouldn't have been hosting your own bachelorette party, and if anyone couldn't afford it, then that's their decision. However your shower is being hosted, it's not being hosted by you. Stay out of it.

    Your fiance isn't here asking for advice, but my advice for him is that kicking people out of the wedding party is relationship-ending.
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  • Um, okay literally no one helped me, you all just criticized me. Thanks, lol I'm not a dumb ass. I clearly never said anyone needed to "do things for me". And I typed paragraphs into the text as I wrote it, but for some reason they didn't show up.. I only planned my trip because I had the connection with the house rentals.
    I asked everyone wayyyy before hand what their budgets were for the trip and everyone was willing to go.
    Well you all wasted my time, and made me feel worse..thanks a bunch!

  • Um, okay literally no one helped me, you all just criticized me. Thanks, lol I'm not a dumb ass. I clearly never said anyone needed to "do things for me". And I typed paragraphs into the text as I wrote it, but for some reason they didn't show up.. I only planned my trip because I had the connection with the house rentals. I asked everyone wayyyy before hand what their budgets were for the trip and everyone was willing to go. Well you all wasted my time, and made me feel worse..thanks a bunch!
    Look, you asked us what to do, and we said, "Let it go." You can't do much of anything about any of the situations you listed above unless you want to start ending friendships. 

    We told you to tell your FI that kicking his best man out is friendship-ending move and to have him think on that.

    We also said no one will care as much about your wedding as you, which is one of the best pieces of wedding advice I've ever received. 

    If you just wanted someone to commiserate with, you shouldn't have asked for advice. 
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  • All of this is unimportant, junior high bullshit. I recommend a good dose of getting over it.



  • Um, okay literally no one helped me, you all just criticized me. Thanks, lol I'm not a dumb ass. I clearly never said anyone needed to "do things for me". And I typed paragraphs into the text as I wrote it, but for some reason they didn't show up.. I only planned my trip because I had the connection with the house rentals. I asked everyone wayyyy before hand what their budgets were for the trip and everyone was willing to go. Well you all wasted my time, and made me feel worse..thanks a bunch!
    1.  You planned your own bachelorette party.
    2.  You planned a party where you were counting on other people's time, and money to pay for it.
    3.  You planned an expensive, out of town party that was not convenient or easy to attend.

    What did you expect?
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  • Oh I'm sorry, I had just thought that this was a good place to vent and where other brides would support me.  Guess I was wrong, it's a board for everyone else to critique my ideas and tell me everything I'm doing wrong.  I read through my post again and realized I was a little overboard with how I expressed everything, so I guess I set my own tone.  I'm just extremely stressed out and it was the first time I have talked about it at all.  Now I wish I would have just kept it in.

    I love my girls and I feel like I am a very good friend to each and every one of them.  I should have said in the first place that this was not my actual bachelorette party, just a trip to get away with the girls.  So no, I did not technically plan my own bachelorette party in my eyes, but if you want to call it that, okay.  I went out of my way to talk it over thoroughly with each girl to see if they could get the time off, could fit it in their budget, etc.  I knew that not everyone would be able to come and I was completely fine with that.  I just wanted to get away and relax.  Not like I was going to Vegas or something.  I'm not sure what kind of advice I wanted about my girls not showing, I guess maybe wanted someone to say that this is all normal and it will blow over?? I don't know!

    So what everyone is saying for the shower is that I should just wait til the 29th and if there's no shower, there's no shower?  I went ahead and texted her and asked if there was anything she needed help with and she just said, "sure, want to address invites?" Not sure where to go with that.  If I don't have a shower than so be it, I just have family members that keep asking if I'm having one and that if not, they'd like to throw one.  So yeah I'm just really not sure what to do without coming off as greedy because I "want all these gifts..."  (Really?)

    It's pretty obvious that my FI kicking out his best man would cause their relationship to end..  I was asking for advice on how to talk him out of it or how to resolve it..  Or again, maybe someone to relate to what's happening and tell me it's going to blow over.

    Now I just feel like I'm doing my entire wedding planning wrong and I'm a horrible friend.  I feel way worse, I just thought this community was more welcoming.  :( Sad day.
  • If "wasting your time" your time means offering opinions other than what you wanted to hear then, sure. Your time was wasted.
    Or maybe you wasted our time.
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  • Oh I'm sorry, I had just thought that this was a good place to vent and where other brides would support me.  Guess I was wrong, it's a board for everyone else to critique my ideas and tell me everything I'm doing wrong.  I read through my post again and realized I was a little overboard with how I expressed everything, so I guess I set my own tone.  I'm just extremely stressed out and it was the first time I have talked about it at all.  Now I wish I would have just kept it in.

    I love my girls and I feel like I am a very good friend to each and every one of them.  I should have said in the first place that this was not my actual bachelorette party, just a trip to get away with the girls.  So no, I did not technically plan my own bachelorette party in my eyes, but if you want to call it that, okay.  I went out of my way to talk it over thoroughly with each girl to see if they could get the time off, could fit it in their budget, etc.  I knew that not everyone would be able to come and I was completely fine with that.  I just wanted to get away and relax.  Not like I was going to Vegas or something.  I'm not sure what kind of advice I wanted about my girls not showing, I guess maybe wanted someone to say that this is all normal and it will blow over?? I don't know!

    So what everyone is saying for the shower is that I should just wait til the 29th and if there's no shower, there's no shower?  I went ahead and texted her and asked if there was anything she needed help with and she just said, "sure, want to address invites?" Not sure where to go with that.  If I don't have a shower than so be it, I just have family members that keep asking if I'm having one and that if not, they'd like to throw one.  So yeah I'm just really not sure what to do without coming off as greedy because I "want all these gifts..."  (Really?)

    It's pretty obvious that my FI kicking out his best man would cause their relationship to end..  I was asking for advice on how to talk him out of it or how to resolve it..  Or again, maybe someone to relate to what's happening and tell me it's going to blow over.

    Now I just feel like I'm doing my entire wedding planning wrong and I'm a horrible friend.  I feel way worse, I just thought this community was more welcoming.  :( Sad day.
    First bolded: where to go with that... go over there and help her address invites. You already asked, and she already gave you an answer. 

    Second bolded: Maybe try reminding your fiance that while his night turned a little shitty, it was just one night compared to years of friendship. And also, his best friend/ best man is presumably single. Remind your fiance that not everyone is all happy and in love and ready to get married, which it sounds like his best man is not. How he manages his love life is his business. Tell your fiance to be grateful that he doesn't need to look for random hook ups anymore and have a laugh about it rather then getting all bent out of shape and throwing away a friendship. 
  • Um, okay literally no one helped me, you all just criticized me. Thanks, lol I'm not a dumb ass. I clearly never said anyone needed to "do things for me". And I typed paragraphs into the text as I wrote it, but for some reason they didn't show up.. I only planned my trip because I had the connection with the house rentals. I asked everyone wayyyy before hand what their budgets were for the trip and everyone was willing to go. Well you all wasted my time, and made me feel worse..thanks a bunch!
    Also, I thought @PDKH advice was pretty helpful and spot on.  Here it is again just in case you missed it...


    PDKH said:

    1. Paragraphs are your friend. Walls of texts are not easy on the eye/reading comprehension. 

    2. You should not have been planning your own b-party. I'm sorry people bailed; that sucks. But it happens a lot. There's not a whole lot you can do on that count anymore. For nonrefundable stuff in the future, get money in advance. And try to remember the good time you had, not all the negative things. $80+ IS expensive for a bachelorette party. Taking a weekend off is a big deal. It may not be to you, but it's not these girls' parties or weddings. It's probably way down the priority list for them. 

    3. If this girl hasn't said anything else about the shower, I'd be letting it go. I'd maybe ask once, "Hey, were you still planning a shower the 29th? Just trying to get my schedule down." If she isn't planning one, just let it go. If she is still and invites haven't gone out, stay out of it. It is a gift to you; you should not be planning it. Yes, she should follow through if she made the offer, but you can't really demand a gift from someone, you know? 

    4. Your FI should not have planned his own b-party. And same deal - sounds like his friends had way different priorities. Yes, the best man sounds like he pulled a dick move, but unless he promised to be DD, I'm not sure how the dead phones and cab are his fault. 

    5. Your FI needs to have a conversation with his friend first about their friendship. The wedding/best man role comes second. If he wants to talk to him about how he felt like he abandoned them, leave it at that. Kicking him out will be a friendship-ending move. Your FI needs to be prepared for that if he chooses to kick him out. Is the friendship worth one night?

    6. Breathe!!!! No one will care as much about all your wedding festivities as much as you and your FI, and that's ok. Try to remember that. Focus on the prize: getting married. 

    ETA: I'd be pretty damned pissed if you wouldn't give my money back either. That girl didn't enter a contract with you. 


  • Thanks for all your input. 
  • This is a board for grownups. This high school crap is never going to get you any respect. The most helpful advice I can give you is to grow up. You are about to be a married woman. Stop creating high school drama. Oh, and don't throw your own parties. That's just basic.
  • Woah. I can't even get past how immature and crazy you sound. It sounds like you need to step back, breathe, and get a huge reality check.
  • babs0726babs0726 member
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    edited June 2014
    I'm really not sure how I'm being immature?  

    In fact, I think you guys are the immature ones.  I may have come off a little crazy in my first post and I can admit that, but it's you hags that sit on here all day waiting to pounce on someone that you think is wrong.  By the way, who entitled you as the Wedding Gods??  Everyone's wedding is different and I don't feel that (minus being a decent human being and using common sense) there is one certain way that every wedding should be planned!  

    You guys try to make me feel like crap and say I'm immature but you're sitting there in front of your computer screen making fun of and blasting innocent brides!  Maybe you should take a short break from internet trolling and actually spend a little time with your significant other and kids.. your ASS will thank you!  I'm very unimpressed with this abomination of a site because of you bitchy people.  It's ridiculous, grow up.
  • lilacck28lilacck28 member
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    edited June 2014
    Oh I'm sorry, I had just thought that this was a good place to vent and where other brides would support me.  Guess I was wrong, it's a board for everyone else to critique my ideas and tell me everything I'm doing wrong.  I read through my post again and realized I was a little overboard with how I expressed everything, so I guess I set my own tone.  I'm just extremely stressed out and it was the first time I have talked about it at all.  Now I wish I would have just kept it in.

    I love my girls and I feel like I am a very good friend to each and every one of them.  I should have said in the first place that this was not my actual bachelorette party, just a trip to get away with the girls.  So no, I did not technically plan my own bachelorette party in my eyes, but if you want to call it that, okay.  I went out of my way to talk it over thoroughly with each girl to see if they could get the time off, could fit it in their budget, etc.  I knew that not everyone would be able to come and I was completely fine with that.  I just wanted to get away and relax.  Not like I was going to Vegas or something.  I'm not sure what kind of advice I wanted about my girls not showing, I guess maybe wanted someone to say that this is all normal and it will blow over?? I don't know!

    So what everyone is saying for the shower is that I should just wait til the 29th and if there's no shower, there's no shower?  I went ahead and texted her and asked if there was anything she needed help with and she just said, "sure, want to address invites?" Not sure where to go with that.  If I don't have a shower than so be it, I just have family members that keep asking if I'm having one and that if not, they'd like to throw one.  So yeah I'm just really not sure what to do without coming off as greedy because I "want all these gifts..."  (Really?)

    It's pretty obvious that my FI kicking out his best man would cause their relationship to end..  I was asking for advice on how to talk him out of it or how to resolve it..  Or again, maybe someone to relate to what's happening and tell me it's going to blow over.

    Now I just feel like I'm doing my entire wedding planning wrong and I'm a horrible friend.  I feel way worse, I just thought this community was more welcoming.  :( Sad day.
    Disregarding your first post, as you admitted in the highlighted section that you sounded a bit over the top... the bolded sections are where you come off a little frantic/ immature/ whiny. Just your tone/ punctuation and "you should have responded a certain way!" comments.  It is hard to get tone across on the internet, we all know that. I would recommend re reading what you write on here before posting to control for that. It's also why you got a lot of "calm down" responses. 

    And really, the actions you described in your post just sound like silly immature things people do in high school when they're trying to prove they are cool by partying a bunch. "So and So didn't come to the event!! How lame is that??? what a biotch! I'm an amazing person and friend and THAT"s how she repays me??!?!?!" That's what you sounded like. And with comments about how your MOH sister is amazing but isn't doing much, you sound like your expectations are WAY too high, and based on what you see on tv. Hence the "immature" comments. 

    Also, I didn't say it in my first response, but he (bestman) was definitely an ass if he left his friends stranded. Still, other than a simple talk about how that was a jerky way to act as a friend outside of being a best man, there's not much your fiance can do besides kicking him out and not being friends anymore. 

    When we're stressed, everything feels like a huge deal. That's the biggest issue here. It's fine, we all type out insane rants every once in a while that make us sound just as crazy. Just take a deep breath. 

    ETA: you didn't really "go out of your way to talk to each girl" because that's what you NEED to do for a trip like that. Playing the martyr didn't help your case
  • You should never have planned your own bach party. That's hella tacky. 

    Here's some advice. Grow up. And treat your friends better. 
  • I'm really not sure how I'm being immature?  

    In fact, I think you guys are the immature ones.  I may have come off a little crazy in my first post and I can admit that, but it's you hags that sit on here all day waiting to pounce on someone that you think is wrong.  By the way, who entitled you as the Wedding Gods??  Everyone's wedding is different and I don't feel that (minus being a decent human being and using common sense) there is one certain way that every wedding should be planned!  

    You guys try to make me feel like crap and say I'm immature but you're sitting there in front of your computer screen making fun of and blasting innocent brides!  Maybe you should take a short break from internet trolling and actually spend a little time with your significant other and kids.. your ASS will thank you!  I'm very unimpressed with this abomination of a site because of you bitchy people.  It's ridiculous, grow up.
    This whole post makes you look immature.
  • You're all trolls.  I'm sorry that you were the ugly ones in high school and now you feel important. lmao

  • lilacck28lilacck28 member
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    edited June 2014
    Jeez. All I said was that you sounded frantic in your first post (which you agreed with), and your tone was a bit mean/ whiny in the second. And then I said it was all okay because we've all been there. 

    You asked why people were saying what they were saying, so I pointed out the parts that gave off the (hopefully wrong) impression that you were immature, and what they ended up sounding like. Isn't that what you were asking for?? 
  • You're all trolls.  I'm sorry that you were the ugly ones in high school and now you feel important. lmao

    wow. 
  • I'm sorry, but you are in this situation because you planned your own bachelorette party. Usually, if someone decides to throw you a party, they host it, or coordinate away from the guest of honour beforehand so things like this don't happen.

    But what is done is done. So where to go from here?

    1.) Don't worry about the Shower- if it happens, great! If it doesn't, oh well. You have NO say in this and should have no place in planning it. Don't let yourself get stressed about things that you don't have to do.

    2.) Yes, weddings are stressful! but don't get sucked into this artificial drama. Focus on your friends instead of expecting your friends to only focus on you. It is a two way street and you will enjoy the wedding and planning a lot more if you and your friends are all happy.

    3.) Did one of your friends honestly come to you about the stress with money to feed her child and you were upset about her going to your bachelorette party? I realise you said "obviously" but that tone did make you seem a bit callous. I know you need to vent but that was a "Whoa! Priorities!" moment.

    4.) Yes, some people on here can be blunt (myself included), but don't get so defensive. We ALL need a vent, but you actually received a lot of really good advice.

    Here is the key piece of advice:
    Don't make stress for yourself by having these ideal "visions" of how things should go in your head. It seems like the root cause of a lot of these problems are disappointment to people not living up to the script you have written. The real wedding stress is something that will cause you to not get married, like an officiant backing out. Everything you are worried about is the gravy of the wedding (nice and extra, but not required). 

    You will still be married on your wedding day if you didn't have a bachelorette party or a shower. Is it not what you wanted? Maybe. But that is life- it doesn't go to plan and we don't always get what we want. 
  • I love my girls and I feel like I am a very good friend to each and every one of them.  I should have said in the first place that this was not my actual bachelorette party, just a trip to get away with the girls.  So no, I did not technically plan my own bachelorette party in my eyes, but if you want to call it that, okay.  
    YOU called it your bachelorette party.
  • LondonLisa, thank you for being the first person to not attack me! 

    As far as my bridesmaid that backed out because of finances..I have a son and bills too..  So I completely understand where she was coming from.  I just felt like she knew everything so far ahead of time and I didn't go off into a tangent about how she is really irresponsible and doesn't even have her child most of the time...a whole other story.  I worked it out with her and just sucked it up and gave her the money back.
  • LondonLisaLondonLisa member
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    edited June 2014
    LondonLisa, thank you for being the first person to not attack me! 

    As far as my bridesmaid that backed out because of finances..I have a son and bills too..  So I completely understand where she was coming from.  I just felt like she knew everything so far ahead of time and I didn't go off into a tangent about how she is really irresponsible and doesn't even have her child most of the time...a whole other story.  I worked it out with her and just sucked it up and gave her the money back.
    OK, I am happy to help, but I think you need to realise you did most of the attacking on this board. Some people were blunt, but they only based that on what you were writing, which even you admit wasn't the best tone or phrasing. I have been on here a bit and these regs really, really know what they are talking about! They have been SO invaluable at preventing me from doing rude/ thoughtless things because they aren't just "yes women/men". It may be hard at first, but maybe try to not get so defensive (and swearing and name calling doesn't help either- that is just rude). The wedding industry forces brides up on a pedestal in order to buy more things with the mantras: It is your day! They will support you no matter what! If they really loved you they wont care! etc. So when someone doesn't do that, sometimes people feel like the rug is pulled out from under them. The people on here are give some of the best and most real advice on weddings (and more) I have found online. I do think you owe them an apology. 

    Edited- typo
  • You're all trolls.  I'm sorry that you were the ugly ones in high school and now you feel important. lmao

    Again, this is why you are immature.

  • You're all trolls.  I'm sorry that you were the ugly ones in high school and now you feel important. lmao

    So, I'm guessing you peaked in high school, right? And that you graduated about two years ago. 
  • You're all trolls.  I'm sorry that you were the ugly ones in high school and now you feel important. lmao

    So, I'm guessing you peaked in high school, right? And that you graduated about two years ago. 
    See I am guessing that she is still in high school and is "Ms. Popular" who will get a massive smack in the face (figuratively of course) when she steps out in the real world.

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