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I have a daycare situation

We have a system for DS to earn money. He gets a quarter for feeding the dogs, getting ready for daycare/bed, and good behavior. The good behavior means that he has to be good at daycare and at home. Lately, he hasn't been earning that quarter because he's misbehaved at daycare. Here's the kicker- he's getting roped into it by another kid. Said kid is a few months older and is generally not good. Any time I go to pick up DS, he's usually in timeout. There is another boy at daycare that is the same age as DS, and he has a similar problem. We are working with DS about not following others especially when they are doign something they shouldn't. So any suggestions on that are welcome.

In addition to the bad behavior to the other kid, his sibling is just as bad. I often pick up and drop off to find one of those kids screaming at other kids, hitting (DS has been hurt many times by these kids), and being just poorly behaved. As for the hurting, it really is minor and our daycare lady addresses it immediately and always tells us.

Now comes the fun, the two bad kids. They are my niece and nephew. Younger SIL's kids. Honestly, younger SIL is becomign more and more of a cunt. Yes, it's a horrible word but it's true. She's a bitch, she's fucking a married man, her parenting is questionable as evidenced by her kids. I know if either myself or DH say something it will be WWIII with her. But at the same time, I'm tired of her kids ruining daycare. It isn't the responsibility of our DCP to parent the kids- watch them and teach is one thing. I have been there when younger SIL picks the kids up and DCP tells her about their behavior. She just sort of brushes it off or says she'll punish them when they get home. But I've seen her at home and I've never seen her punish her kids. When they aren't at daycare, everything is way more peaceful. Our DCP looks way more calm. It's obvious sometimes how much they stress her out but I don't think she'll ever say anything to younger SIL (or her ex-H for that matter).

So would you say something? What would you do?

Re: I have a daycare situation

  • mrsconn23mrsconn23 member
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    edited July 2014

    Since working with your SIL is probably going to cause nothing but trouble, is there a game plan you can think of to come up with your sitter to ease the situation?  Is finding a different daycare an option?  I find it frustrating that your sitter won't tell SIL that her kids are going to have to go if they can't shape up.  

    As far as trying to get DS to remember to behave at daycare...Does he respond well to visual reminders?  Like buy him something he wants (a firetruck, candy, a new game) and put it up in a place where he can see it, but not reach it, and say he has to be good at daycare for X number of days and he can have it? ETA: I know you do the money thing, but since this is a special issue/circumstance...maybe doing a side thing may help him to remember/think of his actions? 

    I feel for you.  DefConn goes to the same sitter with neighbor kid (the one I mentioned in my morning post).   Luckily, neighbor kid is more of a loner in his misbehaving.  But there have been some issues here and there.   

  • GBCKGBCK member
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    urgle.

    Is there any way they could be in separate classes?  I know it'll be WWIII, but the argument of "I want them to be able to establish relationships w/ others without it being triangulated w/ their relationships w/ their cousins" is plausible enough sounding.

    Is there any push to be 'nice' to cousins?   don't want to sound like I think your kids should shun these kids...but sometimes the very subtle "be nice to your cousin/they're faaaamilly"(which likely comes from someone other than you guys :) ) gets heard as "you should make your cousin happy and play w/ him even when he's a jerk"--because kids are weird that way.
    Could you give explicit 'permission' to your kids to put distance between them and these kids?  Or to help have a 'script' where your kids know they can/should  say things like "you are doing somethng that will get me in trouble--I am going to go play with the cars instead"?

    Kid issues magnified by family sucks
  • NavyBlue143NavyBlue143 member
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    edited July 2014
    What a parent at my school did was have a little whiteboard her son came in with every day. On it was either a smiley or frowny face. Smiley face meant he had a good morning, frowny meant he had made some bad choices. It was his "job" to keep that smiley face or turn a frowny face into a smiley one with his behavior throughout the day. The teacher would tell him he was earning a smiley or frowny face periodically, depending on how he was behaving. She would draw the face that coincided with the behavior and show it to him. At the end of the day the teacher would draw the face he had earned on that board and give it to mom. Going home with smiley faces meant a little prize. Eventually, to further hammer in accountability, he had to be the one to draw the face and show mommy, good or bad. It worked pretty well. He's still not a perfect child, but he learned to take pride in making good choices.
  • 1.  Have you tried role playing with DS?  DD had an issue a few months ago where, frankly, one of the other girls was being horrible to her:  she would tell DD that she couldn't play with so-and-so, or she had to go play by herself, or whatever.  Future Mean Girl.  So we spent a lot of time role playing, until she got the idea that if Sofia told her to go play by herself, it had absolutely no bearing on her, and Sofia could stuff it.  I think DD responded well because it was like a game for us, and she really just needed practice shutting this kid down.

    2.  You are probably already doing this, but depending on DS's personality, try heaping positive reinforcement if he responds well to that.  Aside from the actual, tangible quarter/toy/whatever, if positive reinforcement motivates him, then I'd serve up an extra helping whenever he does what he's supposed to, until it becomes the norm again. 

    3.  You can say something to SIL, but honestly, if the fact that her kids are brats isn't motivation enough for her to shape up, then I'm not sure your opinion will be, either.  In your shoes, I'd be dying to say something, but it doesn't seem likely to accomplish anything.  You can try, but it sounds like you may have to choose between finding a new DCP, or learning to deal with SIL's misbehaving kids.  The latter isn't a bad life lesson to start working on:  these won't be the last bad influences your DS will cross paths with, and it will be inconvenient to switch schools every time he's in class with a bad seed.


  • 6fsn6fsn member
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    I have no advice, but I'm sorry you are going through this. 
  • So we do lots of positive reinforcement. Praise in public, punish in private. And we try to be effusive about the praise. The quarter system feeds into that- DH bought a bunch of Lego kits for him (cheap of eBay) and he can "shop" the store for a prize once he earns enough. So he has motivation it's just that he gets swept up with it when nephew sort of drags everyone into it. I've seen him at my house- he has a lot of energy and I think part of it is he doesn't know how to direct it. DS is very laid back, go-with-the-flow and he will feed off nephew.

    DH and I are at the point where we won't (and probably) won't confront SIL because it will be a lost cause. I know in speaking to the mother of the other boy that is DS's age, she feels like I do. This is a parenting problem and needs to be addressed by the parents but she feels sort of powerless too.

    Thank you for the suggestions. I'll continue to work with DS and I'll talk to our DCP about what we can do with him (including telling her that if necessary, they could and should be separated).
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