Do you find this bizarre/ would you attend?

monkeysip · July 2014

jenna8984 said:

mysticl said:

jenna8984 said:

Liatris2010 said:

I say this having just come from an outdoor yoga class...

That is some BS. I'm sorry you had a rough labor and delivery last time, but making your friends pay for a yoga class and eat a healthful lunch is not going to help that, and it is presumptuous to assume that people would want to do that for you.

Me too. And her first delivery wasn't some awful, life threatening situation. It was a standard C-section. I'm sorry, I've never had children, but I would think as long as we are both healthy and ok then I don't give a shit how he was delivered.

A "standard c-section" is major surgery and like any surgery it carries the risk of death to the patient. It also increases the risks during all future pregnancies. What was her experience like up to the point where they decided to operate? Is she left wondering if she actually needed the c-section? Is she questioning if her care providers provided her with the best possible care? Has she since learned that important information was withheld from her? If you haven't been through this you don't get to judge how she feels about the birth of her child because you cannot possibly relate.

And yes you have hit a huge nerve with me and I am projecting my own experiences onto this. I fully own that.

Sorry, didn't mean to make the surgery sound like a piece of cake. But when you look at your beautiful child do you think how lucky you are to have him/her or do you think about how unlucky you were to have had the C-section? I mean, I do think it's a serious surgery that sucks but your baby is healthy so that's what matters.
I'm not a doctor, but hers are strongly recommending a scheduled C-section due to her scar being so recent that it could rupture during birth and be fatal to them both. But she is determined to ignore these suggestions and try for a natural birth. Not my body, not my decision, she's free to do whatever she chooses with her body but I would not take the risk she's taking. To me personally, it doesn't offer any benefits other than a potentially faster healing time.

Ok, obviously none of us here know her full medical history, and sometimes yes, a repeat c-section is medically more advised. But VBACs can for some women be just as safe, if not safer than a repeat c-section. Repeat c-sections carry their own risks.

And it's simply not true that it doesn't offer other benefits. C-sections *can* (not always) seriously impede a woman's bonding with her baby and her ability to breastfeed. Vaginal birth also has benefits for the baby, including better immunity.

I'm not saying c-sections are never a good choice (often they are the best choice), but just saying it's a very complicated issue, and I can definitely understand why a woman would want a vaginal birth.

Yes, it seems like women would just be thankful their babies are healthy, but that's not reality. After birth, women feel all sorts of emotions and are going through all sorts of physical and hormonal challenges. Things like PPD are very real, and can be affected by the birth you had. It can be really difficult getting past the trauma and bonding with this new human being that just came out of your body.

flyingfoxes · July 2014

That is totally weird and I wouldn't go.

LabLove86 · July 2014

Its weird. I wouldn't go.

mysticl · July 2014

jenna8984 said:

mysticl said:

jenna8984 said:

Liatris2010 said:

I say this having just come from an outdoor yoga class...

That is some BS. I'm sorry you had a rough labor and delivery last time, but making your friends pay for a yoga class and eat a healthful lunch is not going to help that, and it is presumptuous to assume that people would want to do that for you.

Me too. And her first delivery wasn't some awful, life threatening situation. It was a standard C-section. I'm sorry, I've never had children, but I would think as long as we are both healthy and ok then I don't give a shit how he was delivered.

A "standard c-section" is major surgery and like any surgery it carries the risk of death to the patient. It also increases the risks during all future pregnancies. What was her experience like up to the point where they decided to operate? Is she left wondering if she actually needed the c-section? Is she questioning if her care providers provided her with the best possible care? Has she since learned that important information was withheld from her? If you haven't been through this you don't get to judge how she feels about the birth of her child because you cannot possibly relate.

And yes you have hit a huge nerve with me and I am projecting my own experiences onto this. I fully own that.

Sorry, didn't mean to make the surgery sound like a piece of cake. But when you look at your beautiful child do you think how lucky you are to have him/her or do you think about how unlucky you were to have had the C-section? I mean, I do think it's a serious surgery that sucks but your baby is healthy so that's what matters.
I'm not a doctor, but hers are strongly recommending a scheduled C-section due to her scar being so recent that it could rupture during birth and be fatal to them both. But she is determined to ignore these suggestions and try for a natural birth. Not my body, not my decision, she's free to do whatever she chooses with her body but I would not take the risk she's taking. To me personally, it doesn't offer any benefits other than a potentially faster healing time.

First bold: When I look at him, no. When I think about his birth, absolutely. I think about the fact that key information about induction was kept from me. Which makes me question all of my prenatal care. I expressed a concern more than once but it was treated like no big deal (and since I'm not a doctor or nurse I trusted them). Only then it became a big, potentially life threatening, deal that required induction. So now I question if it really wasn't a big deal at first or did they drop the ball in treating me. And if they should have treated me earlier could I have avoided the induction that lead straight to c-section. Plus the question of did the medical staff sabotage me and I didn't really need the c-section because the on-call doctor wanted to cut me. He was ready to skip over the induction all together.

Second bold: Just getting pregnant after ever having a c-section is putting her at risk of rupture. She could rupture on the operating table or she could rupture before she goes into labor. Eighteen months between deliveries is considered the safe distance for a c-section patient so she actually has and extra two months on top of that provided she goes full term. And again the c-section is not without risk, she could die on the table and it puts the next pregnancy at even greater risk. And that risk of rupture in a non-complicated pregnancy is less than 1%.

Third bold: Decreased healing time, decreased risk to future pregnancies, increased bonding with baby, increase chance of success in breastfeeding, decreased chance of a NICU stay for the baby.

I have done a lot of research on this topic as I am planning a VBAC for this pregnancy.

jdluvr06 · July 2014

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

JCbride2015 · July 2014

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

I agree.

bethsmiles · July 2014

@mysticl - I loved all your posts but I also want to say how amazing I think it is that you are taking control of your birth experience. A lot of my research focuses on this subject area and it's great to see someone who has obviously done her research! I hope you get the birth experience you want this time.

As for the subject in the OP - I agree with @jdluvr06, outside of the mom putting this in the context of a second shower, I don't really find this odd. I would probably attend.

theartistformerlyknownas · July 2014

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

Honestly, I say I'm sending vibes or mojo or whatever because I know some people get offended when you say you're praying for them. But I do say a prayer for people on here and I always say a prayer for my friends having babies.

mysticl · July 2014

bethsmiles said:

@mysticl - I loved all your posts but I also want to say how amazing I think it is that you are taking control of your birth experience. A lot of my research focuses on this subject area and it's great to see someone who has obviously done her research! I hope you get the birth experience you want this time.

As for the subject in the OP - I agree with @jdluvr06, outside of the mom putting this in the context of a second shower, I don't really find this odd. I would probably attend.

Thank you.

VulgarGirl · July 2014

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

I've actually been to something like this, but it wasn't yoga.

My mom's friend runs a metaphysical shop and one of the girls that works there pregnant. My mom's friend offered to throw her baby shower but the girl turned it down as a friend of her's had thrown her small one already and she didn't think they needed anything more (I know right? I love this girl, she's fantastic). Anyways my mom's friend says she still wants to do a little something so someone suggested a guided mediation of sorts, mom-to-be is cool with this plan. So we all come, sit in a circle around mom and meditate on good thoughts for mom and baby, and easy delivery. It was actually really cool, and there was cake afterwards and mom said she felt really great and loved and supported.

She did have an easy uncomplicated birth. I can't say for sure the positive thinking did it, but I also can't say it hurt. And it was nice to be surrounded by women all supporting another woman. It was really cool.

VulgarGirl · July 2014

lolo883 said:

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

Honestly, I say I'm sending vibes or mojo or whatever because I know some people get offended when you say you're praying for them. But I do say a prayer for people on here and I always say a prayer for my friends having babies.

I never understand people getting offended if you saying you're praying for them when they're going through a rough time. I'm not religious. And I usually say positive thought/vibes because that's more likely to be what I'm doing (hey honesty right). But if someone told me they were praying for me, I knew they used prayer in their daily lives, I'd be really touched. Just because it isn't something that I do doesn't make it negative.

Now if someone says "I'm praying for your soul" because I'm gay/agnostic/pro-choice/whatever pisses you off, well they can just fuck off.

theartistformerlyknownas · July 2014

MagicInk said:

lolo883 said:

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

Honestly, I say I'm sending vibes or mojo or whatever because I know some people get offended when you say you're praying for them. But I do say a prayer for people on here and I always say a prayer for my friends having babies.

I never understand people getting offended if you saying you're praying for them when they're going through a rough time. I'm not religious. And I usually say positive thought/vibes because that's more likely to be what I'm doing (hey honesty right). But if someone told me they were praying for me, I knew they used prayer in their daily lives, I'd be really touched. Just because it isn't something that I do doesn't make it negative.

Now if someone says "I'm praying for your soul" because I'm gay/agnostic/pro-choice/whatever pisses you off, well they can just fuck off.

Oh I totally agree. Just like I would be touched if someone wished me a happy (insert holiday I don;t celebrate). But I've seen people get really pissy about it so I just tend to avoid it. I even have a friend who gets ragey when one of his colleagues tells him to "have a blessed day." OK don't, have a fucked up, cursed, awful day day. Be my guest.

bethsmiles · July 2014

MagicInk said:

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

I've actually been to something like this, but it wasn't yoga.

My mom's friend runs a metaphysical shop and one of the girls that works there pregnant. My mom's friend offered to throw her baby shower but the girl turned it down as a friend of her's had thrown her small one already and she didn't think they needed anything more (I know right? I love this girl, she's fantastic). Anyways my mom's friend says she still wants to do a little something so someone suggested a guided mediation of sorts, mom-to-be is cool with this plan. So we all come, sit in a circle around mom and meditate on good thoughts for mom and baby, and easy delivery. It was actually really cool, and there was cake afterwards and mom said she felt really great and loved and supported.

She did have an easy uncomplicated birth. I can't say for sure the positive thinking did it, but I also can't say it hurt. And it was nice to be surrounded by women all supporting another woman. It was really cool.

That sounds pretty awesome and if there's cake afterwards that's just more awesome!

monkeysip · July 2014

MagicInk said:

lolo883 said:

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

Honestly, I say I'm sending vibes or mojo or whatever because I know some people get offended when you say you're praying for them. But I do say a prayer for people on here and I always say a prayer for my friends having babies.

I never understand people getting offended if you saying you're praying for them when they're going through a rough time. I'm not religious. And I usually say positive thought/vibes because that's more likely to be what I'm doing (hey honesty right). But if someone told me they were praying for me, I knew they used prayer in their daily lives, I'd be really touched. Just because it isn't something that I do doesn't make it negative.

Now if someone says "I'm praying for your soul" because I'm gay/agnostic/pro-choice/whatever pisses you off, well they can just fuck off.

This is good to hear. I often worry that my atheist/agnostic friends will be offended by my offer for prayers, but obviously I only offer it because I think it will help them, not because I want to offend them with my beliefs.

And yeah, you do need to be careful because sometimes people will say "I'll pray for you" in a condescending way, lol, like "Oh, you poor heathen/sinner/messed up person.... I'll pray for you." Those people are obviously just a**holes.

jdluvr06 · July 2014

@lolo883 ok. That is fair. I have people ask me not to pray for them all the time. That is because I'm a Pagan though and they are scared if I pray to my "heathen gods" on their behalf then it will some how offend their God. Idk. Honestly I don't understand that reasoning, we could all be wrong about our beliefs so you might as well take all the help and support you can get.

@magicink my mom has meditation circles all the time. She owns a new age store so they have one every couple of weeks. I like to go when I get the chance. It is very soothing.

JCbride2015 · July 2014

monkeysip said:

MagicInk said:

lolo883 said:

jdluvr06 said:

I'm curious. Other than the mom to be assuming she was getting a second baby shower what about this outing is weird? Yoga is a great way to de-stress and stress isn't good during pregnancy. Also the power of the mind is a very strong thing, if she feels like sending positive vibes her way will make this birth easier for her then it might. We constantly say we are sending prayers and positive thoughts to eachother on here so I'm not sure what makes this any different.

Honestly, I say I'm sending vibes or mojo or whatever because I know some people get offended when you say you're praying for them. But I do say a prayer for people on here and I always say a prayer for my friends having babies.

I never understand people getting offended if you saying you're praying for them when they're going through a rough time. I'm not religious. And I usually say positive thought/vibes because that's more likely to be what I'm doing (hey honesty right). But if someone told me they were praying for me, I knew they used prayer in their daily lives, I'd be really touched. Just because it isn't something that I do doesn't make it negative.

Now if someone says "I'm praying for your soul" because I'm gay/agnostic/pro-choice/whatever pisses you off, well they can just fuck off.

This is good to hear. I often worry that my atheist/agnostic friends will be offended by my offer for prayers, but obviously I only offer it because I think it will help them, not because I want to offend them with my beliefs.

And yeah, you do need to be careful because sometimes people will say "I'll pray for you" in a condescending way, lol, like "Oh, you poor heathen/sinner/messed up person.... I'll pray for you." Those people are obviously just a**holes.

I also am touched when people say they will pray for me.

I don't know how to describe my religion-- I definitely believe there is a God or some other kind of universal force. But I am really turned off by organized religion for various personal and political reasons.

So sometimes I send mojo or vibes to people. Sometimes I actively pray. Sometimes I visualize healing white light around loved ones or myself or internet strangers going through problems. I think it's all different sides of the same coin. Positive energy.

littlemushroom · July 2014

@lolo883 I am another person who hates being told "have a blessed day." It probably has something to do with a job I had answering correspondence from people to a company. The letters that were the most hateful and rude where always the ones that closed with "Have a blessed day" and had bible verses enclosed. I always hear that phrase as condescending no matter who says it.

jenna8984 · July 2014

@mysticl Great points about the c-sections and risks and benefits. Like I sai I don't have kids so I haven't done too much research on it yet. I tend to go along with my MOH's opinions since she is in medical school. If she tells me something is risky, I beleive her. But there are absolutely different perspectives and situations and she is not a doctor yet, let alone an OB/GYN expert.

To everyone else, I didn't find the actual yoga class to be that weird. Moreso the wording of "instead of a shower" like she was expecting one and expecting gifts. I find that kind of tacky/ taboo for a second child especially so close in age and the same gender. If I lived in her town, I would consider meeting them for the lunch after, since I do not do yoga and have interest in trying it lol.

hikebikebemerry · July 2014

Meh, I would totally go. I dislike the wording, but would probably just ignore it.

Then again, I'm pretty into yoga and sending positive vibes/energy to people.

loveislouder · July 2014

I'm about to sound very niave but I had zero idea you only have one baby shower lol. I obviously don't have kids yet. And like others, I have no desire to push a watermelon sized object our of my woo ha. I love kids and all, but I watch natural birthing videos on youtube and stuff and I just don't trust that my body would be able to handle it.

mysticl · July 2014

NikkiJay3333 said:

@lolo883 I am another person who hates being told "have a blessed day." It probably has something to do with a job I had answering correspondence from people to a company. The letters that were the most hateful and rude where always the ones that closed with "Have a blessed day" and had bible verses enclosed. I always hear that phrase as condescending no matter who says it.

It bugs me too. In my case it's because a co-worker used it on her outgoing message on her work voice mail. We were not religiously affiliated and had enough issues will foster parents wanting to impose their religion on the kids in our care. I felt that having that on a professional voice mail could give the impression that we promoted religion.

mysticl · July 2014

loveislouder said:

I'm about to sound very niave but I had zero idea you only have one baby shower lol. I obviously don't have kids yet. And like others, I have no desire to push a watermelon sized object our of my woo ha. I love kids and all, but I watch natural birthing videos on youtube and stuff and I just don't trust that my body would be able to handle it.

Your body was designed to handle it. But it is absolutely 100% your choice about what you do. I just hate to see people psych themselves out because there is a strong mental component to it. If you believe you can't do something then probably you can't. Now if you don't want to that is a whole other ball game and like I said totally your choice.

Senecaf · July 2014

I would go (if local) Second showers don't bother me and I'm all about positive energy. She could have worded it differently yes.

For some, bringing a baby into the world is a big deal. You are taught from early on that your body is meant to bear children. So when something happens to prevent that from happening normally it can be devastating. You plan it for 9 months. It's natural to feel like your body failed.

My mom's best friend had 2 sucessful VBACs at home. It can be done!

thisismynickname2 · July 2014

Yes, I find it bizarre. No, I would not attend. I'm not into yoga at all. If I were, perhaps my attitude would be different. My best friend and my sister love yoga, but they're not batty enough to come up with that kind of bullshit excuse for a baby celebration. Geez. Who is she, Gwenyth Paltrow?

jenna8984 · July 2014

thisismynickname said:

Yes, I find it bizarre. No, I would not attend. I'm not into yoga at all. If I were, perhaps my attitude would be different. My best friend and my sister love yoga, but they're not batty enough to come up with that kind of bullshit excuse for a baby celebration. Geez. Who is she, Gwenyth Paltrow?

hahhhaha right? I do refer to her as my hippy friend because she's all vegan and into that "positive vibe" kind of stuff which I'm just not into. I'm like hey- load me up with steak and epidurals!

ohannabelle · July 2014

beethery said:

Sucks that childbirth was rough but I don't need to attend a woowoo yoga session followed by a woowoo meal and pay for both just so you don't have to woowoo by yourself to wish you luck on your next baby. Peace be the journey namasté et cetera but I'm gonna be at home watching spongebob and killing baddies in my video game. Short form: naw I wouldn't go to this. And hell yes it's bizarre.

(Why I love Beethery.)

Honestly, I have many wooowoo friends, so being invited to a woowooo meditationy healing power circle healing thing wouldn't be bizarre to me, but I probably would decline, because excessive eye rolling can hurt.

If you want your friends to give you healing energy, yes, namaste and peace. If you ask your friends to pay for the healing experience in lieu of gifts, here comes the giant metal chicken. (Knock knock and namaste, motherf#%*er. )

beethery · July 2014

ohannabelle said:

beethery said:

Sucks that childbirth was rough but I don't need to attend a woowoo yoga session followed by a woowoo meal and pay for both just so you don't have to woowoo by yourself to wish you luck on your next baby. Peace be the journey namasté et cetera but I'm gonna be at home watching spongebob and killing baddies in my video game. Short form: naw I wouldn't go to this. And hell yes it's bizarre.

(Why I love Beethery.)
Honestly, I have many wooowoo friends, so being invited to a woowooo meditationy healing power circle healing thing wouldn't be bizarre to me, but I probably would decline, because excessive eye rolling can hurt.
If you want your friends to give you healing energy, yes, namaste and peace. If you ask your friends to pay for the healing experience in lieu of gifts, here comes the giant metal chicken. (Knock knock and namaste, motherf#%*er. )

Also namaste, motherf#%*er just made my day! I just pictured a cyborg rooster kicking someone's door in with an OM symbol on its chest and it yells NAMASTE MOTHERFUCKER. SO GOOD.

theartistformerlyknownas · July 2014

beethery said:

ohannabelle said:

beethery said:

Sucks that childbirth was rough but I don't need to attend a woowoo yoga session followed by a woowoo meal and pay for both just so you don't have to woowoo by yourself to wish you luck on your next baby. Peace be the journey namasté et cetera but I'm gonna be at home watching spongebob and killing baddies in my video game.

Short form: naw I wouldn't go to this. And hell yes it's bizarre.

(Why I love Beethery.)
Honestly, I have many wooowoo friends, so being invited to a woowooo meditationy healing power circle healing thing wouldn't be bizarre to me, but I probably would decline, because excessive eye rolling can hurt.
If you want your friends to give you healing energy, yes, namaste and peace. If you ask your friends to pay for the healing experience in lieu of gifts, here comes the giant metal chicken. (Knock knock and namaste, motherf#%*er. )

Also namaste, motherf#%*er just made my day! I just pictured a cyborg rooster kicking someone's door in with an OM symbol on its chest and it yells NAMASTE MOTHERFUCKER. SO GOOD.

I love you both.

erollis · July 2014

mysticl said:

erollis said:

JCbride2015 said:

The two hospitals I have worked in push c sections because they can be planned. When I hear someone's baby was born at an odd hour I know baby was ready to come (c section or vaginally).

I wouldn't call any birth easy (I haven't given birth) for 99% of the population. Unless you went, oh goodness contractions! And then baby comes out in one push about two minutes later. And I imagine it would still hurt to some degree.

That is horrible. Major surgery should not be encouraged because it's convenient for the hospital.

It's not about the birth being easy or pain free, it's about it not being traumatic.

________________________________________

It's not really the hospitals. It's the doctors mainly. As another poster mentioned the doctor wanted to immediately start the c section. Less babies are born on Saturdays and Sundays because doctors schedule days/times for mom to have baby.

Friday and Saturday are two of the busiest days for what I do because of the babies born on Thursday and Friday. The days leading up to a holiday are crazy. CRAZY! What doctor wants to work on a Holiday?

If a woman is able to do a natural birth then she should. It really is better for mom and baby. And others have touched on that subject.

A nurse recently had a water birth and said it was the "easiest" birth. Major hospitals don't do water births. You have to go to a birthing center or something similar.

mysticl · July 2014

erollis said:

erollis said:

JCbride2015 said:

The two hospitals I have worked in push c sections because they can be planned. When I hear someone's baby was born at an odd hour I know baby was ready to come (c section or vaginally). I wouldn't call any birth easy (I haven't given birth) for 99% of the population. Unless you went, oh goodness contractions! And then baby comes out in one push about two minutes later. And I imagine it would still hurt to some degree.

That is horrible. Major surgery should not be encouraged because it's convenient for the hospital.

It's not about the birth being easy or pain free, it's about it not being traumatic.
________________________________________ It's not really the hospitals. It's the doctors mainly. As another poster mentioned the doctor wanted to immediately start the c section. Less babies are born on Saturdays and Sundays because doctors schedule days/times for mom to have baby. Friday and Saturday are two of the busiest days for what I do because of the babies born on Thursday and Friday. The days leading up to a holiday are crazy. CRAZY! What doctor wants to work on a Holiday? If a woman is able to do a natural birth then she should. It really is better for mom and baby. And others have touched on that subject. A nurse recently had a water birth and said it was the "easiest" birth. Major hospitals don't do water births. You have to go to a birthing center or something similar.

Stuck in the freaking box:
The doctors also should not be doing that and the hospital should not be allowing them to schedule unnecessary surgeries just because they don't want to work weekends. The are Obstetricians, babies come when they come. If they didn't want to get called out of bed in the middle of the night or work on weekends/holidays they should have picked a different specialty.
I am the poster that the doctor wanted to cut instead of induce. It was a Friday morning. Instead he had to come in on Saturday. Since I did have a c-section I cannot give birth at a birthing center.

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