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How did that apple fall from the same tree?

edited July 2014 in Chit Chat
   I took my mom to get her MOB dress to get fitted, today. She calls me up and asks me to meet her at a department store, before we head o the tailor. She tried to buy makeup, at the department store) and she had insufficient funds in her account. Her bank account was wiped out. She usually gives my "recovering addict" of a little sister money, but because of my wedding, her budget is stretched tight. My FI and I are paying for her dress alterations, and her dress (because of her disability it was very expensive to alter and find the right dress for her shape). She is paying for her undergarments, and a dress to wear to the rehearsal dinner. My aunt is paying for her hair and makeup for the wedding day. 

 My mother is serious about not giving my little sister any money and wanted to check the bank to see if she was right and my sister stole it or if it was a bank error. Yep. My mother's account was wiped clean minus $5.46. My little sister is "disabled"... I guess that's we call junkies, these days. So she gets government assistance too. She told my mother they were taking away her food stamps and asked her for money. My mother said she could not swing it, this month. So my sister went into her purse, took her bank card, and bought pizza with it a few times, and took out $700 in a week (the same week she gets her check... but apparently it is never enough.)

   My mother said she did not want to press charges when asked. I said, "This is why she does not learn her lesson. There are NO consequences. If you put her in jail, when she asks you why you pressed charges, all you say is, 'That is how I would react if ANYONE stole my wallet.'" This girl has no remorse and no soul. My mother gives her everything, and it is never enough. I know my mother does not have money for a new rehearsal dinner dress (which she wanted to buy, but she could wear jeans or a sundress. This restaurant is very casual). I did not offer any extra financial help to her. This is the third time my sister has wiped out her bank account. If she allows her to keep doing this, why should my FI and I pay more than what we all ready offered her? It seems like a very cold thing to do to your mother, but I can't keep enabling my mother to enable my sister. Am I wrong? I am so disgusted with my sister. How can she do that to her own mother? It sickens me that I am related to her.

*edited for clarity. I bought her MOB dress all ready. I am, still, paying for the alterations. But I do not want to buy the extra stuff she intended to buy with her own money (a new dress for the rehearsal dinner, chicken cutlets, and her day to day makeup)

Re: How did that apple fall from the same tree?

  • Why paragraphs.... WHY!!!!!
  • Oh... and my little sister is 28 years old... not 16
  •    I took my mom to get her dress to get fitted, today. She calls me up and asks me to meet her at a department store. She tried to buy makeup and she had insufficient funds in her account. Her bank account was wiped out. She usually gives my "recovering addict" of a little sister money, but because of my wedding, her budget is stretched tight. My FI and I are paying for her dress alterations, and her dress (because of her disability it was very expensive to alter and find the right dress for her shape). She is paying for her undergarments, and a dress to wear to the rehearsal dinner. My aunt is paying for her hair and makeup for the wedding day. 

     My mother is serious about not giving my little sister any money and wanted to check the bank to see if she was right and my sister stole it or if it was a bank error. Yep. My mother's account was wiped clean minus $5.46. My little sister is "disabled"... I guess that's we call junkies, these days. So she gets government assistance too. She told my mother they were taking away her food stamps and asked her for money. My mother said she could not swing it, this month. So my sister went into her purse, took her bank card, and bought pizza with it a few times, and took out $700 in a week (the same week she gets her check... but apparently it is never enough.)

       My mother said she did not want to press charges when asked. I said, "This is why she does not learn her lesson. There are NO consequences. If you put her in jail, when she asks you why you pressed charges, all you say is, 'That is how I would react if ANYONE stole my wallet.'" This girl has no remorse and no soul. My mother gives her everything, and it is never enough. I know my mother does not have money for a new dress, but I did not offer any financial help to her. This is the third time my sister has wiped out her bank account. If she allows her to keep doing this, why should my FI and I pay for it? It seems like a very cold thing to do to your mother, but I can't keep enabling my mother to enable my sister. Am I wrong? I am so disgusted with my sister. How can she do that to her own mother? It sickens me that I am related to her.
    I would not rescind your offer to buy your mom's dress because of this.  Yeah, your mom is enabling your sister, but it would be really cruel to take back the offer, which you already made and she is counting on, when you know your mom has no money to buy the dress.  

    Try your best to stay out of everything between your mom and your sister.  My mom has her own issues and even though I think I know what's best, any time I've ever inserted myself into her drama she has gotten angry.
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  • edited July 2014
    I all ready bought her the dress she is wearing to the wedding, and I will pay for the alterations, as planned.  But I do not want to pay for her rehearsal dinner dress. That is what she was going to buy on her own. And, I do not want to buy her day to day makeup or chicken cutlets to go in her bra. Those were her only expenses that she said she would be buying. I feel I should not add to the $600 we have all ready spent on her wedding day attire (including alterations), because she does nothing when my sister wipes out her account.
       We just don't want to do more than what we all ready offered because she always puts herself in these positions.  We only offered for her dress and alterations for the wedding day. We never offered for the rehearsal dinner dress, or bust enhancer, or her day to day makeup. 
  • I wouldn't be replacing the income lost by what daughter/sister stole or buying the things that mom would have bought with it (makeup and chicken cutlets...lol).   I would buy food to go in the fridge so she wouldn't go hungry, but that is about it, or pay a bill myself if need be. But I wouldn't be handing cash over to her. 
  • I'm so sorry. I don't have siblings, now am I going through a situation like this, but what I will say is that you are correct in stating that your mom is an enabler. Your sister will never learn because there are no consequences to her actions. I grew up with really strict parents. I still think that they were a bit too strict with me, and in certain ways I resent it because as a child they did not always allow me to play with friends who had parents that they did not approve of. This was mostly my mom because she is extremely judgemental. I was not allowed to go to my best friends (now MOH) 10th birthday party because my mom did not approve of her mom. But, all that aside, I was not a perfect kid, and when I screwed up, my actions had consequences. If my parents let me do whatever I wanted, I would not be the person I am now.

    With that being said, I agree with @JCbride2015 in saying that you should not rescind your original offer to your mother. At the end of the day, she is a mother. A mothers love is unconditional. I know it is tough on you, but it is also tough on your mom, and she probably feels that she is not being a good mother if she sends your sister to jail, etc. I know that this is hard on you, but it must also be extremely hard on your mother. I think the best course is to stay out of anything between them. Your Mom is an adult, and no matter what you tell her, she will make her own decisions. It sucks, but that's the reality, you can't change someone. And it is hard to break through a mothers love. As much as my mom and I clash, and as much as she states her disappointment in me in certain aspects of my life (living with my FI) I know that she loves me. Despite us moving in, my rebellious phase, she is still there (even though I should be disowned by now by her standards.)

    I do feel your pain because it is frustrating when you see a relationship like that (enabler/addict). Hopefully your Mom realizes that sometimes tough love is the best route.
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  • Her boyfriend takes care of the housing expenses and food. I used to buy my mother groceries, until they moved in together
  • Wow, how about simply getting a new card with a new number?  Opening up a new account your sister does not have access too?   Not keeping your card in a place she can steal it from?

     I *get* why mom doesn't want to press charges- okay, not completely, but whatever - however, there are ways to stop her from wiping her out in the future.






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  • edited July 2014
    I know! FI doesn't even know my PIN number or my computer passwords, and we share an apartment. If there is anyone who is okay to know your PIN number would be your FI or husband, if you are okay with having a joint account Sometimes my mother is too sick to go to the pharmacy and gives my sister her bank card. Apparently she has always remembered that PIN number. SCUM
  • I know DH's pins and most of his passwords.  He doesn't know mine.    He's never asked - LOL.   He doesn't even know our joint account user names or passwords.

    I do have them in a spot in case of an emergency.  Although I'm not sure he even remembers where that spot is anymore.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • You're right, Muffinman. Keep your original offer to your Mom, but that's it. 
    Mom's been sucked into that terrible cycle of enabling. I understand why, because a Mom's strongest instinct is to protect her children, and it's very typical for parents of addicts to tumble into it. 
    But you're doing absolutely the right thing by not joining in. Then you'd be enabling Mom's enabling, and crap. It never ends.
    Sorry you have to deal with all of that. You're being the good apple, and that shouldn't suck.

    Has your Mom ever considered Nar-anon, or a similar program for parents of addicts? I had a friend that did this, and it helped her a lot. She actually started saying no. No, I won't save you, or give you money, or enable you. 

  • edited July 2014
    My mother knows she enables her. She feels guilty for my sister's childhood, and my sister will never let her forget  what happened, either... she will always remain in control, this way.
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