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Re: High chairs for kids

  • lc07lc07 member
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    She was incredibly rude to you.

    However, I think you should be providing high chairs for children in that age range. We rented them with no problem.
  • The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following:

    1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable.

    2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem.

    3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly.

    4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.
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  • Thanks everyone!

    I called the boy's grandparents, who live approx. 400 yards from the reception site, they can borrow us his high chair from their house for the reception and take it with them again once they pick him up after dinner. Theirs is portable and looks like this

  • The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following: 1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable. 2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem. 3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly. 4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.
    I disagree.  If you invite the child by name, then the child is just as much a guest as any other guest and should be given reasonable accommodations, which include appropriate seating.



  • Viczaesar said:
    The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following: 1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable. 2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem. 3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly. 4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.
    I disagree.  If you invite the child by name, then the child is just as much a guest as any other guest and should be given reasonable accommodations, which include appropriate seating.
    Exactly this. Whether or not an establishment can accommodate babies should be a criteria in whether or not you choose to invite those babies. If you've already chosen to include kids, you should choose your venue accordingly. If you don't want to/aren't able to accommodate someone, you shouldn't invite them. Don't just invite someone and then wash your hands of tending to their needs.

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  • Viczaesar said:



    The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following:

    1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable.

    2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem.

    3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly.

    4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.

    I disagree.  If you invite the child by name, then the child is just as much a guest as any other guest and should be given reasonable accommodations, which include appropriate seating.

    Exactly this. Whether or not an establishment can accommodate babies should be a criteria in whether or not you choose to invite those babies. If you've already chosen to include kids, you should choose your venue accordingly. If you don't want to/aren't able to accommodate someone, you shouldn't invite them. Don't just invite someone and then wash your hands of tending to their needs.


    This. If you invite the kid by name then YOU are hosting the kid as much as you're hosting his parents.
  • Senecaf said:
    Um she is responsible for her own pumpkin. Tell her the venue has no high chairs. I suggest you find a portable booster seat lady. I'm sure you will use it in the future since you don't want to deal with you little one. Boom! $15.99 princess: http://m.target.com/p/fisher-price-table-time-turtle-booster/-/A-13269830 Leave it in your trunk. And FWIW a booster/ high chair will do little to control a 1.5 year old that wants to move. If the child is buckled it will still thrash and be unruly if it wants.


    Stuck in Box:
    Those portable booster seats only work on some chairs.  They are not universal.  So even if she brings one it may or may not fit on the venue's chairs.  A high chair actually can do a lot to control a child.  If my son is on my lap he will be grabbing at everything I touch/have and will try to get to the floor.  In a high chair he is much more controlled and can have his own food in front of him to eat.  
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  • Why in god's name wouldn't SHE have a high chair?  Does she feed her kid on the floor like a dog or something?

    So confused...
    High chairs are not generally a portable item. There are traveling ones, but most of them you can't just throw in the car and take wherever.
    I've been shopping around for high chairs (for obvious reasons), and a good majority of them have collapsible legs.  I get that not all of them are portable, but the ones that are are a very decent price.  I don't get the mindset of 'well it's someone else's problem'.  No man, your kid, your problem.

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    Ours has collapsible legs. It doesn't help with portability, it's so you can stick it in a corner a little more easily.  They are still bulky and I would not be loading one in and out of my car every time I went to a restaurant, someone's home, or a wedding.  Way too difficult to deal with and it would be incredibly disruptive to the other people there.  

    I actually don't think it would fit in the back of my car and I drive an Escape.  I would have to lay a seat down to get it in there, even with the collapsible legs.  And once I have this second child there is no way I could transport both of them and one let alone two high chairs plus stroller(s).  

    Like others have said the child is invited to the wedding, therefore the host is expected to have an appropriate seat available.  Everyone would be up in arms if adults were told their seating needs could not be accommodated and if they want a chair they should looking into bring a folding one from home.  
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  • We always compare weddings to having a party at your house. Well, when I invite people over to my house who have children, I don't provide them with a high chair. How is a wedding different?  It's kind of like the baby food analogy someone made above.

    The youngest children at my wedding were 3 years old. They sat on a regular chair. I realize there is a big difference between a 3 year old and a 1.5 year old, but the fact that this child has sat on a regular chair in the past, in my opinion means a high chair isn't necessary.
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  • We always compare weddings to having a party at your house. Well, when I invite people over to my house who have children, I don't provide them with a high chair. How is a wedding different?  It's kind of like the baby food analogy someone made above.

    The youngest children at my wedding were 3 years old. They sat on a regular chair. I realize there is a big difference between a 3 year old and a 1.5 year old, but the fact that this child has sat on a regular chair in the past, in my opinion means a high chair isn't necessary.
    It's rude to invite people to your house and give no thought to where they're going to sit down, no matter the age.  Just because you would be rude at home does not make it acceptable to be rude at your wedding.



  • banana468 said:
    Viczaesar said:
    The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following: 1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable. 2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem. 3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly. 4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.
    I disagree.  If you invite the child by name, then the child is just as much a guest as any other guest and should be given reasonable accommodations, which include appropriate seating.
    Exactly this. Whether or not an establishment can accommodate babies should be a criteria in whether or not you choose to invite those babies. If you've already chosen to include kids, you should choose your venue accordingly. If you don't want to/aren't able to accommodate someone, you shouldn't invite them. Don't just invite someone and then wash your hands of tending to their needs.
    This. If you invite the kid by name then YOU are hosting the kid as much as you're hosting his parents.
    THIS again.  When DD got married last month it was a no kid outside first cousins and bridal party kind of deal.  2 of the groomsmen either had an infant or a toddler.  I personalized the RSVPs and the last line of theirs was:  High chair required     ____yes  ____no.  We were prepared to rent highchairs and we had considered this from the beginning.  Those children were invited by name so we made sure we could accommodate them in an age appropriate fashion.  

    And I really don't think anyone would be tying the kid in the high chair so they wouldn't have to attend to him/her.  I don't know how that idea even got brought up.

    OP - her approach was beyond rude and entitled but I am glad you were able to find such an easy solution.
  • Viczaesar said:



    The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following:

    1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable.

    2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem.

    3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly.

    4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.

    I disagree.  If you invite the child by name, then the child is just as much a guest as any other guest and should be given reasonable accommodations, which include appropriate seating.


    That's a very nice thought, but children are so high maintenance at that age that it is impossible for hosts to 'reasonably accomodate' them. I mean, they need diapers on hand, extra cleaning cloths, extra clothes, toys, special silverware, special cups, and basically an army of special items. Any sane and reasonable parent hauls all this stuff with them.

    I know I personally will be bringing everything my kid needs with me, because I don't want to be a burden, and I also don't trust people to provide safe seating for my kid. Not thier kid, not thier problem.





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  • edited July 2014
    I just can't anymore with the boxes, TK! To the above; Well that's a big jump from a place to sit to providing diapers and sippy cups! The rule is to make reasonable accommodations for guests' comfort while you're hosting them. If someone wants to have just hay bales and blankets for seating, we say "that's not reasonable for guests who are elderly, dressed up, or have back/hip/knee/whatever problems. Rent chairs." No, you don't have to rent an orthopedic adustable bed for someone to witness your vows from, but rent a dang chair with a seat and a back. It's common practice to offer a vegetarian dish - but it doesn't have to be their favorite food. Someone may show up to my wedding and really want a root beer but I've reasonably accommodated them with a hundred other things to drink but sorry, I just don't have a dang root beer. If your kid needs breast milk I DEFINITELY can't help you.

    For dietary and personal hygiene needs as specific as a child, I'd expect parents to bring whatever they need and I think that's a reasonable assumption. But asking for an appropriate place to sit is not out of line. I think this is another place where a reasonable accommodation might include bending the rules - just as no other guest would be allowed to bring in take-out under the venue rules but a parent could bring baby food and formula (and reasonably expect to, since restaurants don't serve baby food and formula), I think it's ok for parents to bring strollers and hosts to ensure there's space for them. But strollers are intended to be portable; most high chairs are not. Expecting a guest to bring their own furniture from home is unreasonable.

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  • Thanks everyone!

    I called the boy's grandparents, who live approx. 400 yards from the reception site, they can borrow us his high chair from their house for the reception and take it with them again once they pick him up after dinner. Theirs is portable and looks like this

    That may not work. It is a booster that attaches to a chair. Chairs are not a uniform size or shape.  So that may not attach to the chairs at the venue. 
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  • The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following: 1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable. 2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem. 3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly. 4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.
    I disagree.  If you invite the child by name, then the child is just as much a guest as any other guest and should be given reasonable accommodations, which include appropriate seating.
    That's a very nice thought, but children are so high maintenance at that age that it is impossible for hosts to 'reasonably accomodate' them. I mean, they need diapers on hand, extra cleaning cloths, extra clothes, toys, special silverware, special cups, and basically an army of special items. Any sane and reasonable parent hauls all this stuff with them. I know I personally will be bringing everything my kid needs with me, because I don't want to be a burden, and I also don't trust people to provide safe seating for my kid. Not thier kid, not thier problem.
    No, a sane and reasonable parent quickly figures out what you really need and what you don't need.  If you are lugging furniture with you every time you go out you are quickly going to leave the land of the sane.  Sometimes I carry a diaper bag, sometimes I carry a large purse that has a couple of diapers, some wipes, a baby spoon, and a toy in it.  Maybe a sippy cup and/or a spare outfit depending on what we are doing.  And if you really need a seat for them the stroller works just fine in a pinch.  
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  • Viczaesar said:
    We always compare weddings to having a party at your house. Well, when I invite people over to my house who have children, I don't provide them with a high chair. How is a wedding different?  It's kind of like the baby food analogy someone made above.

    The youngest children at my wedding were 3 years old. They sat on a regular chair. I realize there is a big difference between a 3 year old and a 1.5 year old, but the fact that this child has sat on a regular chair in the past, in my opinion means a high chair isn't necessary.
    It's rude to invite people to your house and give no thought to where they're going to sit down, no matter the age.  Just because you would be rude at home does not make it acceptable to be rude at your wedding.
    No one said I gave no thought to where people sit at my house. You have some nerve saying that.

    My friends brought their daughters over to my house this afternoon. They brought their own mini high chair for their youngest, and their oldest sat at a pub chair at our dining room table.  I don't have children, so I don't have a high chair for them. 

    Seriously, how many of you on here rent a high chair for your friends children who come to your house? I would bet almost no one.
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  • We are having friends over with a toddler next week. I assume the parents will bring something, but my husband wants us to go ahead and buy a booster seat to have on hand for such situations.
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  • The reason I believe a high chair is the parents' responsibility is for the following: 1) Not every place has them. Expecting eveyone else to be prepared for your special angel, when you can't be bothered to do it yourself, is unreasonable. 2) You are a parent. It is YOUR job to see to your child's needs. If something is already present, great! If it's not, then YOU make arrangements. Your decision to reproduce shouldn't be someone else's problem. 3) Don't blindly trust childless people to know what the hell they are doing when it comes to kids. If you'd asked me a year ago what kind of highchair/booster is appropriate for a 1 year old, I would have looked at you blankly. 4) Communicate without entitlement. Most people ARE willing to bend over backwards to accomodate a kid. Until you turn it into a commandment from Queen Entitled of Entitleville.
    I disagree.  If you invite the child by name, then the child is just as much a guest as any other guest and should be given reasonable accommodations, which include appropriate seating.
    That's a very nice thought, but children are so high maintenance at that age that it is impossible for hosts to 'reasonably accomodate' them. I mean, they need diapers on hand, extra cleaning cloths, extra clothes, toys, special silverware, special cups, and basically an army of special items. Any sane and reasonable parent hauls all this stuff with them. I know I personally will be bringing everything my kid needs with me, because I don't want to be a burden, and I also don't trust people to provide safe seating for my kid. Not thier kid, not thier problem.
    Yeah, no.  That's just an attempt at reductio ad absurbum.  As a host you are required to provide seating for your guests.  You do not need to provide diapers any more than you need to provide sanitary napkins for the female guests.



  • ViczaesarViczaesar member
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    edited July 2014
    Viczaesar said:
    We always compare weddings to having a party at your house. Well, when I invite people over to my house who have children, I don't provide them with a high chair. How is a wedding different?  It's kind of like the baby food analogy someone made above.

    The youngest children at my wedding were 3 years old. They sat on a regular chair. I realize there is a big difference between a 3 year old and a 1.5 year old, but the fact that this child has sat on a regular chair in the past, in my opinion means a high chair isn't necessary.
    It's rude to invite people to your house and give no thought to where they're going to sit down, no matter the age.  Just because you would be rude at home does not make it acceptable to be rude at your wedding.
    No one said I gave no thought to where people sit at my house. You have some nerve saying that.

    My friends brought their daughters over to my house this afternoon. They brought their own mini high chair for their youngest, and their oldest sat at a pub chair at our dining room table.  I don't have children, so I don't have a high chair for them. 

    Seriously, how many of you on here rent a high chair for your friends children who come to your house? I would bet almost no one.
    On the other hand, you also didn't indicate that you give any consideration to where babies sit at your house.  Yes, as a good host, I would expect you (general you) to contact the guests and have a discussion with them about what kinds of accommodations they need for their children, and if they can't bring it with them then I would expect you to figure something out, which may include not having a sit-down dinner.  It would be bad hosting to just say "Too bad, not my problem." 

    My sister, as a matter of fact, keeps a high chair at her house because she invites people with babies over a lot, even though her own children are over 21.  I don't have room for a high chair and my apartment is not baby proof, so I don't invite over babies, even though I love kids. 

    ETA: Despite my flippant answer in the first line, I was actually thinking general you when I wrote "Just because you would be rude at home does not make it acceptable to be rude at your wedding."  I didn't make that at all clear, however, and I'm sorry for not doing so.  I stand behind the general sentiment, but I was not assuming that you necessarily fall under that category of rudeness; as I said above, there isn't enough information to know whether you do or not.



  • The verbiage of your guest was rude.

    However, I'm believe in a seat for every but, that includes any kids I'm might have invited.   I do not have any kids but I'm aware that some kids of a certain age need high chairs and I definitely would have inquired with the parents to see if they needed one or not.


    I think a proper seat for a child is as much as a reasonable request as making sure there is a vegetarian dish for your vegetarian guest.

    I dont' know the couple in question, but I think people are reading too much into they don't want to look after him at dinner.  In a high chair the child is secure enough for a parent to be able to use 2 hands to eat their own dinner.  The parent can even turn to the other side to answer a question or engage in conversation. 

       In a regular seat there is a greater chance of the child falling off the seat.  Especially a squirmy 1.5 year old.  The parent will have to all of their attention on the child so they don't fall off the chair.  Actually I'm not sure I would even put a 1.5 year on a regular chair, they would more than likely end up on my lap instead.
     






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • We always compare weddings to having a party at your house. Well, when I invite people over to my house who have children, I don't provide them with a high chair. How is a wedding different?  It's kind of like the baby food analogy someone made above.

    The youngest children at my wedding were 3 years old. They sat on a regular chair. I realize there is a big difference between a 3 year old and a 1.5 year old, but the fact that this child has sat on a regular chair in the past, in my opinion means a high chair isn't necessary.
    The child sat on a regular chair at a back yard BBQ, that is a lot different than a wedding. I would be fine with sitting on a lawn chair or at a picnic table at a BBQ but would not be cool with it at a wedding.  
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  • mysticl said:
    We always compare weddings to having a party at your house. Well, when I invite people over to my house who have children, I don't provide them with a high chair. How is a wedding different?  It's kind of like the baby food analogy someone made above.

    The youngest children at my wedding were 3 years old. They sat on a regular chair. I realize there is a big difference between a 3 year old and a 1.5 year old, but the fact that this child has sat on a regular chair in the past, in my opinion means a high chair isn't necessary.
    The child sat on a regular chair at a back yard BBQ, that is a lot different than a wedding. I would be fine with sitting on a lawn chair or at a picnic table at a BBQ but would not be cool with it at a wedding.  
    Ok, that's fair. :)
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