NWR: Mom Changes Baby At Table

Re: NWR: Mom Changes Baby At Table

• ashley8918 member

  

  August 2014

  

  
  

  Listen, people: If you need to feed your baby, you absolutely should not EVER be banished to the bathroom because "BOOBS! OMG!"

  
  

  BUT, if you need to deal with your baby's bowel movements? Get your ass in the bathroom!

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• wandajune6 member

  

  August 2014

  Yeah.... saw a blub on this on the morning news.
  
  It's nasty. You don't wipe butts where people eat. It's gross, inappropriate, and disrespectful.
  

  

  

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• ashley8918 member

  

  August 2014 edited August 2014

  Also, even if no one else is in the restaurant, that is SO incredibly unsanitary! Someone else is going to have to eat at that table eventually! WTF?!

  
  

  ETA missing word.

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• NYCMercedes member

  

  August 2014

  Gross. I laid down my raincoat on a ladies room floor to change a diaper. The mom had options. She chose poorly.

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• lyndausvi mod

  

  August 2014

  so gross.   2 wrongs do not make a right.   

  
  

  Just like it's wrong to make a woman BF in a restroom, it's wrong to turn a dining room into a restroom.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

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• kaos16 member

  

  August 2014

  Anyone remember my post from a few weeks ago where the couple changed their infant right next to where i was eating in a restaurant? Why do people think that this is ok!!!!! Besides the thought that I find it to be rude, i'm sure the board of health would have a LOT to say about this.

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• kat1114 member

  

  August 2014

  Almost as bad as the family that encouraged their 6 year-old to poop in his plane seat... http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2014/07/28/child-poops-on-airplane-seat/

  
  

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• theartistformerlyknownas member

  

  August 2014

  Maybe I'm gross, but this generally doesn't bother me. No, diapers aren't the same as nursing and if moms want to argue that they won't feed their baby where other people wipe their asses (which I absolutely agree with), then don't wipe baby's ass where other people are eating (because logic). But most moms I know can change an infant's diaper in about 2 seconds without any drama, and I don't know that she really had a much better choice with 2 other kids tagging along. Seems like both sides are overreacting. I've smelled grown up farts worse than baby diapers.

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• mysticl member

  

  August 2014

  kat1114 said:

  Almost as bad as the family that encouraged their 6 year-old to poop in his plane seat... http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2014/07/28/child-poops-on-airplane-seat/

  
  

  Yes, that was wrong.

  
  

  When I saw the headline I was wondering if it was an issue of the flight attendants not allowing them out of their seats.  

  

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• thisismynickname2 member

  

  August 2014

  If a mother didn't have a choice, the only thing I would tolerate is kind of like what NYCMercedes said: put something (coat, blanket, changing mat) on a chair or the floor, and out of sight of any other patrons because yuck, feces. 

  No way on God's green earth should someone change a baby on a public dining room table. I do wonder what a health department would make of that. 

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• LakeR2014 member

  

  August 2014

  lolo883 said:

  Maybe I'm gross, but this generally doesn't bother me. No, diapers aren't the same as nursing and if moms want to argue that they won't feed their baby where other people wipe their asses (which I absolutely agree with), then don't wipe baby's ass where other people are eating (because logic). But most moms I know can change an infant's diaper in about 2 seconds without any drama, and I don't know that she really had a much better choice with 2 other kids tagging along. Seems like both sides are overreacting. I've smelled grown up farts worse than baby diapers.

  This is where I disagree. Having been with my nephew and niece in public not mention countless other children I've watched, she had a choice (to go to her car) she just chose not to.  Would it have been inconvienent?  Would it have been hard?  Yes.  But you're a parent, you do that stuff, and hopefully if you've raised your kids well they follow along.  
  
  I've watched three kids before and changed the diaper in a car.  You quickly change the diaper and have 8-year-old child hold 4-year-old child's hand and stand next to the car.   It's not as easy as wiping out a diaper at the restaurant table, but it's considerate of everyone else, including yourself, cause ya know, fecal particles and stuff that you can't see but can go everywhere!  Gross!
  

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• sophhabobopha member

  

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• mysticl member

  

  August 2014

  LakeR2014 said:

  lolo883 said:

  Maybe I'm gross, but this generally doesn't bother me. No, diapers aren't the same as nursing and if moms want to argue that they won't feed their baby where other people wipe their asses (which I absolutely agree with), then don't wipe baby's ass where other people are eating (because logic). But most moms I know can change an infant's diaper in about 2 seconds without any drama, and I don't know that she really had a much better choice with 2 other kids tagging along. Seems like both sides are overreacting. I've smelled grown up farts worse than baby diapers.

  This is where I disagree. Having been with my nephew and niece in public not mention countless other children I've watched, she had a choice (to go to her car) she just chose not to.  Would it have been inconvienent?  Would it have been hard?  Yes.  But you're a parent, you do that stuff, and hopefully if you've raised your kids well they follow along.  
  
  I've watched three kids before and changed the diaper in a car.  You quickly change the diaper and have 8-year-old child hold 4-year-old child's hand and stand next to the car.   It's not as easy as wiping out a diaper at the restaurant table, but it's considerate of everyone else, including yourself, cause ya know, fecal particles and stuff that you can't see but can go everywhere!  Gross!
  

  We have done this in restaurants that didn't have changing tables before. However, one of us took the kid to the car an the other one stayed at the table.  If the restaurant had seen the mother get up, gather her belongings, and herd all of her kids outside, I have to wonder would they have called the police on her for skipping out on the check?  I don't agree with changing the baby at the table but I can see how someone would make that decision.  

  

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• LakeR2014 member

  

  August 2014

  mysticl said:

  LakeR2014 said:

  lolo883 said:

  Maybe I'm gross, but this generally doesn't bother me. No, diapers aren't the same as nursing and if moms want to argue that they won't feed their baby where other people wipe their asses (which I absolutely agree with), then don't wipe baby's ass where other people are eating (because logic). But most moms I know can change an infant's diaper in about 2 seconds without any drama, and I don't know that she really had a much better choice with 2 other kids tagging along. Seems like both sides are overreacting. I've smelled grown up farts worse than baby diapers.

  This is where I disagree. Having been with my nephew and niece in public not mention countless other children I've watched, she had a choice (to go to her car) she just chose not to.  Would it have been inconvienent?  Would it have been hard?  Yes.  But you're a parent, you do that stuff, and hopefully if you've raised your kids well they follow along.  
  
  I've watched three kids before and changed the diaper in a car.  You quickly change the diaper and have 8-year-old child hold 4-year-old child's hand and stand next to the car.   It's not as easy as wiping out a diaper at the restaurant table, but it's considerate of everyone else, including yourself, cause ya know, fecal particles and stuff that you can't see but can go everywhere!  Gross!
  

  We have done this in restaurants that didn't have changing tables before. However, one of us took the kid to the car an the other one stayed at the table.  If the restaurant had seen the mother get up, gather her belongings, and herd all of her kids outside, I have to wonder would they have called the police on her for skipping out on the check?  I don't agree with changing the baby at the table but I can see how someone would make that decision.  

  What's wrong with telling the waiter what you're doing before you leave?  In that statement she could've also made a point of saying they don't have a changing table:  'I have to go to the car to change my baby because there's no changing table in the restroom, we'll be right back.'   
  

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• theartistformerlyknownas member

  

  August 2014 edited August 2014

  @thisismynickname the article said she did just that - used a changing pad on the chair. She didn't just put the baby's bare poopy ass on the table.

  
  

  @mysticl the bill skipping worry was my thought too. Or having your food cleared when everyone gets up and leaves the table.

  
  

  She obviously didn't make the best choice... but I don't think it's as big a deal as people are making it out to be. 

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• KatieinBkln member

  

  August 2014

  I think we can all agree, as a society, to keep poop away from eating surfaces.

  
  

  This baby knows exactly how I feel

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• mysticl member

  

  August 2014

  LakeR2014 said:

  mysticl said:

  LakeR2014 said:

  lolo883 said:

  Maybe I'm gross, but this generally doesn't bother me. No, diapers aren't the same as nursing and if moms want to argue that they won't feed their baby where other people wipe their asses (which I absolutely agree with), then don't wipe baby's ass where other people are eating (because logic). But most moms I know can change an infant's diaper in about 2 seconds without any drama, and I don't know that she really had a much better choice with 2 other kids tagging along. Seems like both sides are overreacting. I've smelled grown up farts worse than baby diapers.

  This is where I disagree. Having been with my nephew and niece in public not mention countless other children I've watched, she had a choice (to go to her car) she just chose not to.  Would it have been inconvienent?  Would it have been hard?  Yes.  But you're a parent, you do that stuff, and hopefully if you've raised your kids well they follow along.  
  
  I've watched three kids before and changed the diaper in a car.  You quickly change the diaper and have 8-year-old child hold 4-year-old child's hand and stand next to the car.   It's not as easy as wiping out a diaper at the restaurant table, but it's considerate of everyone else, including yourself, cause ya know, fecal particles and stuff that you can't see but can go everywhere!  Gross!
  

  We have done this in restaurants that didn't have changing tables before. However, one of us took the kid to the car an the other one stayed at the table.  If the restaurant had seen the mother get up, gather her belongings, and herd all of her kids outside, I have to wonder would they have called the police on her for skipping out on the check?  I don't agree with changing the baby at the table but I can see how someone would make that decision.  

  What's wrong with telling the waiter what you're doing before you leave?  In that statement she could've also made a point of saying they don't have a changing table:  'I have to go to the car to change my baby because there's no changing table in the restroom, we'll be right back.'   
  

  Nothing.  If you can find a waiter. And if you think of it.  I don't agree with the woman's actions but I understand why she did it.  

  

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• mysticl member

  

  August 2014

  And if it's pouring rain or freezing outside going to the car (especially with other kids in tow) is not a viable solution. We were on a road trip last December and stopped at a WaWa for gas, food, and bathrooms. No changing table in the men's or women's room. I really didn't want to change DS in the car because it was cold out. The manager (who is a father and hates that they don't have changing tables) let us into the break room to change the baby in there.

  

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• lyndausvi mod

  

  August 2014

  LakeR2014 said:

  mysticl said:

  LakeR2014 said:

  lolo883 said:

  Maybe I'm gross, but this generally doesn't bother me. No, diapers aren't the same as nursing and if moms want to argue that they won't feed their baby where other people wipe their asses (which I absolutely agree with), then don't wipe baby's ass where other people are eating (because logic). But most moms I know can change an infant's diaper in about 2 seconds without any drama, and I don't know that she really had a much better choice with 2 other kids tagging along. Seems like both sides are overreacting. I've smelled grown up farts worse than baby diapers.

  This is where I disagree. Having been with my nephew and niece in public not mention countless other children I've watched, she had a choice (to go to her car) she just chose not to.  Would it have been inconvienent?  Would it have been hard?  Yes.  But you're a parent, you do that stuff, and hopefully if you've raised your kids well they follow along.  
  
  I've watched three kids before and changed the diaper in a car.  You quickly change the diaper and have 8-year-old child hold 4-year-old child's hand and stand next to the car.   It's not as easy as wiping out a diaper at the restaurant table, but it's considerate of everyone else, including yourself, cause ya know, fecal particles and stuff that you can't see but can go everywhere!  Gross!
  

  We have done this in restaurants that didn't have changing tables before. However, one of us took the kid to the car an the other one stayed at the table.  If the restaurant had seen the mother get up, gather her belongings, and herd all of her kids outside, I have to wonder would they have called the police on her for skipping out on the check?  I don't agree with changing the baby at the table but I can see how someone would make that decision.  

  What's wrong with telling the waiter what you're doing before you leave?  In that statement she could've also made a point of saying they don't have a changing table:  'I have to go to the car to change my baby because there's no changing table in the restroom, we'll be right back.' 

  
  

  
  

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  Yep.

  
  

  The boat I worked on didn't have a changing table.  When a parent needed to change their kids diaper the  ALWAYS asked us what they are to do.   We would grab a towel for them to lay on the deck for them.  Once they changed the diaper we would take the towel directly to the laundry bag.  We would wipe down the area with Clorox.  It was the best we could do under the circumstances.  

  
  

  It's not that hard to ASK what their options are.  Had she asked for assistance they could have provided a table cloth to lay down, offered to watch the other kids while she went to the care, maybe they had a back office or something that she could have gone to.    Then they would also see the issue and hopefully order a changing table for the future.   
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

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• MairePoppy mod

  

  August 2014 edited August 2014

  mysticl said:

  And if it's pouring rain or freezing outside going to the car (especially with other kids in tow) is not a viable solution. We were on a road trip last December and stopped at a WaWa for gas, food, and bathrooms. No changing table in the men's or women's room. I really didn't want to change DS in the car because it was cold out. The manager (who is a father and hates that they didn't have changing tables) let us into the break room to change the baby in there.

  When my children were babies, there weren't changing tables in most public rest rooms. I usually took them to the car, even on  cold, rainy days, where I had all the conveniences of home ready. It's nice to have the option of a changing table, but I'd still use my car if possible.

  It was rude and gross of the mom to change her baby tableside, at a restaurant. I know she was in a tough spot, but she should have gone the extra mile to avoid offending people. She could have asked if there was a place to change the baby or inconvenient as it is, take her kids to the car to change the baby.
  

                     

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• OnceUponAVine member

  

  August 2014

  I'm a nanny and when i take my charges out to eat I would NEVER change one of them anywhere but the bathroom of a restaurant. It doesn't matter how quickly/quietly you can change a kid its just unsanitary.

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• Maggie0829 member

  

  August 2014

  I am pretty sure everyone would agree that in regards to adults who have to wear diapers, them changing themselves at a restaurant table would be inappropriate and disgusting so why is it different with a baby? The answer is it isn't different.

  
  

  Would it be great if every single bathroom in every single restaurant/store/rest stop/etc had a changing table?  Sure, but that isn't the case.  Maybe one day it will be, but until that time comes, as a parent you need to be prepared to adjust to your surroundings.  And an appropriate adjustment is to not lay your kid down on a table in the middle of a public restaurant, whether there are other patrons or not, and change their diaper.

  
  

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• Maggie0829 member

  

  August 2014

  scribe95 said:

  She went to the restroom and realized no table. So just use the changing mat you have, put it on the floor and change the baby. Doing it anywhere near the table and other customers was horrible. And it is her choice to have freaking 3 kids. If the kids have to stand in the bathroom her then that's what has to happen.

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• RebeccaB88 member

  

  August 2014

  Poop belongs in the bathroom.  Period. 
  
  Moms and dads with kids in diapers always need a Plan B, C, D, E, F, and sometimes G.
  
  Besides, babies (and any kid who needs a diaper change) have the right to a quick and PRIVATE diaper change. Granted, babies don't care who sees their privates, but you have no idea who might be sitting close by.  There are sick people everywhere who get off on naked children. Unless you REALLY KNOW all the people in the same room as the diaper change, you don't know if someone is that sick person or not.  Why take that chance?  Especially with cameras on phones. And really, everyone, no matter their age, has the right to not have their privates displayed for the world to see. If you have your 90 year old grandmother out and she needs a diaper change, you're going to take her to the bathroom, right?  Your 9 month deserves the same respect.
  

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• sarawifenow member

  

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• ashley8918 member

  

  August 2014

  RebeccaB88 said:

  Poop belongs in the bathroom.  Period. 
  
  Moms and dads with kids in diapers always need a Plan B, C, D, E, F, and sometimes G.
  
  Besides, babies (and any kid who needs a diaper change) have the right to a quick and PRIVATE diaper change. Granted, babies don't care who sees their privates, but you have no idea who might be sitting close by.  There are sick people everywhere who get off on naked children. Unless you REALLY KNOW all the people in the same room as the diaper change, you don't know if someone is that sick person or not.  Why take that chance?  Especially with cameras on phones. And really, everyone, no matter their age, has the right to not have their privates displayed for the world to see. If you have your 90 year old grandmother out and she needs a diaper change, you're going to take her to the bathroom, right?  Your 9 month deserves the same respect.
  

  This, exactly.

  
  

  It is unsanitary, and otherwise gross.

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• levioosa member

  

  August 2014

  Poop is poop, no matter the size or age of the person. Disease is transmitted just as easily from a newborn's feces as from an adult. Your child does not poop butterflies and roses. He poops like any other human being, and as such, he should be changed on a surface that is not used for any activity involving food. Come on, people, common sense stuff here.

  
  

  
  

  

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• LakeR2014 member

  

  August 2014

  Time2strtliving said:

  Poop is poop, no matter the size or age of the person. Disease is transmitted just as easily from a newborn's feces as from an adult. Your child does not poop butterflies and roses. He poops like any other human being, and as such, he should be changed on a surface that is not used for any activity involving food. Come on, people, common sense stuff here.

  I actually worry that we're starting to live in an age where the sense of entitlement is overpowering common sense.
  

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• jdluvr06 member

  

  August 2014

  That is so disgusting. There are always other options. Up until last year our local zoo didn't have changing tables in the bathroom so when I had to change my nephew's diaper I got the changing pad out and did it on the bathroom floor.

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• lyndausvi mod

  

  August 2014

  
  

  LakeR2014 said:

  Time2strtliving said:

  Poop is poop, no matter the size or age of the person. Disease is transmitted just as easily from a newborn's feces as from an adult. Your child does not poop butterflies and roses. He poops like any other human being, and as such, he should be changed on a surface that is not used for any activity involving food. Come on, people, common sense stuff here.

  I actually worry that we're starting to live in an age where the sense of entitlement is overpowering common sense.
  

  Seriously.   It's nice that we have all the modern conveniences, but it's causing people to lose the ability to figure out how to solve a problem using common sense.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  

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