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estranged sister + family get together

edited August 2014 in Chit Chat
It really irritates me. I have an older sister who is JUST like my father. She has walked in and out of my life several times. This past time, I put my foot down. I will NEVER let her back into my life. I know there will be social occasions where we will have to be in the same room, but I am hoping that room is full of other people. 

 My step-mom has a really good relationship with her sisters and can't fathom why we don't have a relationship with her. So she tries to arrange get togethers like we are kids and have somehow forgotten what we dislike about each other. My step-mom... I love her, but she inserts her nose where it does not belong. She told me I should invite her to my wedding. I said, absolutely not. I told her if that was the stipulation for her buying me a dress, I will get my own dress. My wedding should be the day that I am over-the-moon happy. Not a day where I am trying to force contentious relationships into something it is not. She backed down and told me she would, still, buy me the dress.
 
My step-mom, also,  shows my one year old nephew pictures of my older sister's child and says, "That is your cousin." No, it's not! Why would you confuse a two year old like that? My cat is more of a cousin to him than my sister's daughter. My sister and I both get irritated with this. Tomorrow, my step-mom is having a picnic, but only invited 10 people. That's a small crowd, for an estranged relationship. I was supposed to show my relatives my wedding video, tomorrow, but now that my older sister is coming.... i would rather die. 

   The last letter she sent to me said that neither my sister nor I would EVER have a husband because we don't know what it's like to always put a husband first. And we would die alone. I told her, that a husband comes first sometimes... unless he is wrong. Then, privately, as his wife, you should be able to tell him you disagree with him. You don't always put your husband first. Sometimes you can put yourself first. Sometimes your husband, and sometimes your family. A healthy life is about balance. Just because I am married, i will not blankly stare at a moron and tell him he is right..(her husband, not mine)  
   
   I told her, if putting a man first means not being allowed to know how much money is in our bank account, I would rather die a spinster. I told her if putting a man first is having to unload candy wrappers at my house because her husband would lose it if he finds them in her purse.... I would rather die an old maid. If I have to say "no dear", when he says, are you still going to eat that after you've been porking up, I'd rather have my tongue chopped off. To me marriage is not submission, it is an equal. One can be wrong, and you should be his equal to tell him when he is breaching boundaries. And he should be able to talk to you that way as well.
    I don't want a woman telling me I will never get married, because men are threatened by outspoken women, and I will die alone. This woman should not be watching my wedding video. I know my step-mom will try to get her to watch it as if there is some way for us to unburn this bridge. I absolutely hate her. I hate that she is a puppet to her abusive husband and I am disposable to her, because he is threatened by a woman who tells her man when he is in the wrong. there is a reason she wasn't invited to the wedding. She should not share in my day and watch my video with me, as if she was ever happy for me.  Am I being petty about her watching my video?  I know she will see it, someway, but I just can't have someone watch my special moment with me and shit on it. She wasn't invited because I did not want her with me on that day. Her husband can tell her to stop talking to me, and I should just wait idly by, until they need money, and coincidentally, I become an awesome person, again? Do I have the right to ask my step-mom, politely, to not show my wedding video with her there?

Re: estranged sister + family get together

  • TL;DR sister badmouthed me, said I wasn't marriage material because I don't stand by my man, even when he is wrong. I told her that if a marriage means always being submissive to a man, like her relationship, I would never want to get married. Her husband orders her to no longer talk to me.  Step-mother is having a small picnic, wants to show video,  then invites estranged sister.  Would it be okay to ask her not to play wedding video?  She wasn't invited to our wedding for a reason.
  • CMGragainCMGragain member
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    edited August 2014
    It really irritates me. I have an older sister who is JUST like my father. She has walked in and out of my life several times. This past time, I put my foot down. I will NEVER let her back into my life. I know there will be social occasions where we will have to be in the same room, but I am hoping that room is full of other people. 

     My step-mom has a really good relationship with her sisters and can't fathom why we don't have a relationship with her. So she tries to arrange get togethers like we are kids and have somehow forgotten what we dislike about each other. My step-mom... I lover her, but she inserts her nose where it does not belong. She told me I should invite her to my wedding. I said, absolutely not. I told her if that was the stipulation for her buying me a dress, I will get my own dress. My wedding should be the day that I am over-the-moon happy. Not a day where I am trying to force contentious relationships into something it is not. 
     
    My step-mom, also,  shows my one year old nephew pictures of my older sister's child and says, "That is your cousin." No, it's not! Why would you confuse a two year old like that? My cat is more of a cousin to him than my sister's daughter. My sister and I both get irritated with thia. Tomorrow, my step-mom is having a picnic, but only invited 10 people. That's a small crowd, for an estranged relationship. I was supposed to show my relatives my wedding video, tomorrow, but now that my older sister is coming.... i would rather die. 

       The last letter she sent to me said that neither my sister nor I would EVER have a husband because we don't know what it's like to always put a husband first. And we would die alone. I told her, that a husband comes first sometime... unless he is wrong. Then, privately, as his wife, you should be able to tell him you disagree with him. You don't always put your husband first. Sometimes you can put yourself first. Sometimes your husband, and sometimes your family. A healthy life is about balance, but just because I am married, i will not blankly stare at a moron and tell him he is right..  
       
       I told her, if putting a man first means not being allowed to know how much money is in our bank account, I would rather die a spinster. I told her if putting a man first is having to unload candy wrappers at my house because her husband would lose it if he finds them in her purse.... I would rather die an old maid. If I have to say "no dear", when he says, are you still going to eat that after you've been porking up, I'd rather have my tongue chopped off. To me marriage is not submission, it is an equal. One can be wrong, and you should be his equal to tell him when he is breaching boundaries. And he should be able to talk to you that way as well.
        I don't want a woman telling me I will never get married, because men are threatened by outspoken women, and I will die alone. This woman should not be watching my wedding video. I know my step-mom will try to get her to watch it as if there is some way for us to unburn this bridge. I absolutely hate her. I hate that she is a puppet to her abusive husband and I am disposable to her, because he is threatened by a woman who tells her man when he is in the wrong. there is a reason she wasn't invited to the wedding. She should not share in my day and watch my video with me, as if she was ever happy for me. 
    I am sorry that your family is so troubled.  Many of us come from unhappy situations like yours.

    1.  She is your sister.  Her child IS your child's cousin.  This is simple fact.

    2.  Your choice in this matter is to either attend your step-mother's party, OR to decline.  No explanations are required for a decline to an invitation.  Your step-mother will be left to make any excuses.  Are you sure you want to give her that opportunity?

    3.  Your step-mother has the right to invite whomever she wishes to her home.

    4.  It is your right to decide how much contact you will have with your sister.  It is not your right to tell your step-mother whom she can invite to her own home.

    5.  Your post is filled with anger.  Have you tried therapy to help you deal with your anger and negative feelings?  I think this is much more important than whether, or not, your sister sees your wedding video.  You need to address your anger issues before they hurt you and your children.  Family issues can affect people for generations of hurt.  Good luck to you.
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  • My step-mom has every right to see her other daughter.  It is her house.  i am irritated that it is such a small gathering, but I can deal.  I would be irritated if my step-mom tries to get me to watch my wedding video with my older sister.  And my twin sister would be irritated if my step-mom gives my older sister her baby to hold.
        I know she is my sister, and her child is my nephew's cousin.  But she isn't at the same time.  She doesn't want to know me, then to me, she is not a sister when strangers treat me better. Answering a medical evaluation for genetically pre-diposed  conditions, I have a 4 siblings.  Talking to anyone else, I have 2 siblings. If my future children want to visit her, they can do it when they get old enough to defend themselves. I would not encourage or discourage it.  But when they are young, you have every right to protect them from awful people.
       My problem is not attending the party.  I all ready said I would, and I knew she had been invited.  My problem is there is a reason she wasn't invited to my wedding, and I don't really want to watch my wedding video with her.
       Six months ago, we were at a baby shower, together.  I said "Hello" to her. She ignored me. I can be civil.  What ticks me off is that I did not invite to our wedding for a reason.  i don't think it is right to sit with her and watch a video, when I did not want her to be there. She can be a part of my step-mother's life, I just don't want her in my personal life.
  • You get to make that decision for yourself.  I do come from one of these families, and it makes your situation look very tame.
    Please consider getting counseling to help you deal with your anger and family issues.  I did.  Is my family fixed?  Hell, no.  I'm not tearing myself up about it (much) any more, and that helped make me a better mother to my own children.
    Like I said, you can decline your step-mother's invitation and tell her that you will be unable to attend her party.  People will talk, though.  It is your decision.
    Good luck.  Please think about what I said.
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  • I usually don't even think about her much, I really did go off like a nutcase, but I just got upset that people are trying to control my relationship with her. If it will ever be worked out between us , it will be because we worked it out . I will go to the picnic, if it gets uncomfortable I will leave a little early
  • If you don't want her to see your wedding video, then tell your step mother your wedding video is NOT to be played and that the discussion is closed. 
    What did you think would happen if you walked up to a group of internet strangers and told them to get shoehorned by their lady doc?~StageManager14
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  • Can you just "forget" the video?  Or have technical difficulties?

    I'm not sure what your situation is, but we have a situation with FI's brother too.  He still talks to mom and sister and some extended family, but he is not part of "our" family (dad, SM, other brother/sil/niece and nephew). 

    Mom and sister are always trying to push the relationship on us (thankfully not in person), but they also live on the other side of the country and didn't witness the shitshow he caused here.  There feelings are based on what the brother tells them.  And he is a compulsive liar, so...

    Anyway, it sucks, and I don't necessarily have advice, but I do sympathize with your situation.  Good luck!




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  • lc07lc07 member
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    I'm sorry you have to deal with a difficult family situation, muff. Honestly, I'd probably just not attend the party. If your SM already has the video (meaning whether you bring it or not it's already in her possession) it doesn't sound like she would respect your wishes for it not to be played. 

    You already know you can't control your SMs behavior or your sister's behavior. I don't think you can even control information/videos/photos being shared with your sister if other people chose to. But you can control how you respond and react and you can choose whether or not to subject yourself to being present when she has the opportunity to voice her opinion about you and your marriage (/video etc.)

    I wouldn't go.
  • Sorry in advance for the super snarky response, but am I the only one who would want my sister to watch the video of her whole family where she wasn't welcome? Show her that her actions have consequences. Let her say whatever she wants while your SM shows the video. You know it was (potentially) the best day of your life so far. There is nothing your sister could say to take that away.
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  • Your stepmom has the right to invite who she wants to her home. No question about it.

    However, you have the right to control the messages that your child hears. You also have the right to control who sees your video. Sadly, it sounds like the only way to control these things is by cutting back on your communications with your mom.

    I've been on the opposite side of things: I had an old boyfriend who came from a deeply troubled family. He was close with one sister but estranged from his mom and other sister. I frequently got calls from family members trying to push him into seeing people. I screwed up and talked him into seeing people, only to realize that I was in the wrong.

    No real advice here, just warm thoughts going your way.
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  • Guys it's not the OPs child, it's her nephew. 

    Good luck OP. Your sister's husband sounds awful, and I hope if one day she decides to leave him, you'd hopefully help her if she needed it.
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  • I would help her, if that were the case.  He is the only reason I will never have a relationship with her. She is in an abusive relationship, she has to decide when it's enough. No one can make that decision for her. I am not the only one on the chopping block.  He has made her cut ties with our father, our mother, our step-mother, my twin sister, and our grandmother, at one time or another.... not to mention.... ALL of her friends.  Because everyone sees the way he treats her and everyone else.  She is the only one who can keep her mouth shut about it. It's a shame.  I thought she was stronger than that.
       If she ever leaves him (which I highly doubt), but if she did, I would be the first to help her. Because she would be taking a huge step of putting anyone other than him first (heaven forbid.... put herself first). If she could do that, I know she would be the sister I used to know. It's hard to watch someone in an abusive relationship and stick around.  To me, an abusive relationship is a lot like an addiction.  No one is in an abusive relationship for the lows, but for the extreme highs. Until you can realize the highs aren't worth the lows you get in that package deal, you will remain in that situation. .  I hope she, someday, will see her situation like everyone else does, and I hope it's not too late.
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