Might be pregnant. Need some advice. update in comments

themuffinman16 · January 2015

I, finally, got a hold of my doctor. I explained the situation to her, and she told me that in most cases, I would be okay if I used a mask and gloves. She told me, because of my history, not to risk it. Some people get immunity towards it, but in severe cases like mine, she would not want me to chance getting it again.

I talked to my SIL, and she is more than happy to do it. I explained the situation to her, and she promised me she would be discreet. She has PCOS, so she knows what it is like to have fertility issues. She understands why I'd be so tight-lipped about sharing the situation. I am so lucky to have someone as understanding and sweet as her in my life. She would give anyone the shirt off her back... and now, she is my sister

! I am going to wait until Friday to take a pregnancy test, to make sure I miss my period, by then.

Thank you all for your support. You ladies have been so helpful.

KatWAG · January 2015

Okay, this is my inner-bumpie coming out. Beware.

If you are pregnant enough to get symptoms, you are pregnant enough to get a positive result. A negative test, means you are not pregnant right now. And PMS symptoms are very similar to early pregnancy symptoms.

Are you temping? Do you know when you ovulated? Because if you arent, then you dont really know when to expect your period.

While, I think its wise to take extra procautions surrounding the cat liter, I would trust the test over your symptoms.

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

KatWAG said:

Okay, this is my inner-bumpie coming out. Beware.

If you are pregnant enough to get symptoms, you are pregnant enough to get a positive result. A negative test, means you are not pregnant right now. And PMS symptoms are very similar to early pregnancy symptoms.

Are you temping? Do you know when you ovulated? Because if you arent, then you dont really know when to expect your period.

While, I think its wise to take extra procautions surrounding the cat liter, I would trust the test over your symptoms.

I've had this debate here before... but I really disagree with this. Lots of people have "pregnancy symptoms" before getting a BFP. Maybe they weren't truly pregnancy symptoms at the time, but I think when you're TTC, it's so easy to misinterpret other things as pregnancy symptoms because you want so badly for them to be. You start to pay closer attention to every little thing your body does than you do when you're not TTC. Lots of symptoms are shared between early pregnancy, ovulation, and your hormones adjusting to not being on BC anymore (like sore boobs; apparently I'm 3 months pregnant), so you could have those symptoms before you produce enough pregnancy hormone to get a positive test.

KatWAG · January 2015

lolo883 said:

KatWAG said:

Okay, this is my inner-bumpie coming out. Beware.

If you are pregnant enough to get symptoms, you are pregnant enough to get a positive result. A negative test, means you are not pregnant right now. And PMS symptoms are very similar to early pregnancy symptoms.

Are you temping? Do you know when you ovulated? Because if you arent, then you dont really know when to expect your period.

While, I think its wise to take extra procautions surrounding the cat liter, I would trust the test over your symptoms.
I've had this debate here before... but I really disagree with this. Lots of people have "pregnancy symptoms" before getting a BFP. Maybe they weren't truly pregnancy symptoms at the time, but I think when you're TTC, it's so easy to misinterpret other things as pregnancy symptoms because you want so badly for them to be. You start to pay closer attention to every little thing your body does than you do when you're not TTC. Lots of symptoms are shared between early pregnancy, ovulation, and your hormones adjusting to not being on BC anymore (like sore boobs; apparently I'm 3 months pregnant), so you could have those symptoms before you produce enough pregnancy hormone to get a positive test.

I think its a lot of wishful thinking and hoping. You start farting more and all of the sudden its a pregnancy symptom, even though you ate a huge bowl of chili for lunch.

I really am not trying to be insensitive but I would just be cautious.

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

KatWAG said:

lolo883 said:

KatWAG said:

Okay, this is my inner-bumpie coming out. Beware.

If you are pregnant enough to get symptoms, you are pregnant enough to get a positive result. A negative test, means you are not pregnant right now. And PMS symptoms are very similar to early pregnancy symptoms.

Are you temping? Do you know when you ovulated? Because if you arent, then you dont really know when to expect your period.

While, I think its wise to take extra procautions surrounding the cat liter, I would trust the test over your symptoms.
I've had this debate here before... but I really disagree with this. Lots of people have "pregnancy symptoms" before getting a BFP. Maybe they weren't truly pregnancy symptoms at the time, but I think when you're TTC, it's so easy to misinterpret other things as pregnancy symptoms because you want so badly for them to be. You start to pay closer attention to every little thing your body does than you do when you're not TTC. Lots of symptoms are shared between early pregnancy, ovulation, and your hormones adjusting to not being on BC anymore (like sore boobs; apparently I'm 3 months pregnant), so you could have those symptoms before you produce enough pregnancy hormone to get a positive test.

I think its a lot of wishful thinking and hoping. You start farting more and all of the sudden its a pregnancy symptom, even though you ate a huge bowl of chili for lunch.

I really am not trying to be insensitive but I would just be cautious.

Oh I totally agree that it's often wishful thinking. But that doesn't mean that the negative result is wrong, it could mean that what you're feeling isn't a pregnancy symptom YET. Maybe this week's sore boobs are an ovulation symptom, and your little zygote just hasn't implanted yet. It could still be your successful cycle (and one would still want to avoid dangerous things at that point), even though the test isn't positive yet.

jdluvr06 · January 2015

lolo883 said:

KatWAG said:

lolo883 said:

KatWAG said:

Okay, this is my inner-bumpie coming out. Beware.

If you are pregnant enough to get symptoms, you are pregnant enough to get a positive result. A negative test, means you are not pregnant right now. And PMS symptoms are very similar to early pregnancy symptoms.

Are you temping? Do you know when you ovulated? Because if you arent, then you dont really know when to expect your period.

While, I think its wise to take extra procautions surrounding the cat liter, I would trust the test over your symptoms.
I've had this debate here before... but I really disagree with this. Lots of people have "pregnancy symptoms" before getting a BFP. Maybe they weren't truly pregnancy symptoms at the time, but I think when you're TTC, it's so easy to misinterpret other things as pregnancy symptoms because you want so badly for them to be. You start to pay closer attention to every little thing your body does than you do when you're not TTC. Lots of symptoms are shared between early pregnancy, ovulation, and your hormones adjusting to not being on BC anymore (like sore boobs; apparently I'm 3 months pregnant), so you could have those symptoms before you produce enough pregnancy hormone to get a positive test.

I think its a lot of wishful thinking and hoping. You start farting more and all of the sudden its a pregnancy symptom, even though you ate a huge bowl of chili for lunch.

I really am not trying to be insensitive but I would just be cautious.

Oh I totally agree that it's often wishful thinking. But that doesn't mean that the negative result is wrong, it could mean that what you're feeling isn't a pregnancy symptom YET. Maybe this week's sore boobs are an ovulation symptom, and your little zygote just hasn't implanted yet. It could still be your successful cycle (and one would still want to avoid dangerous things at that point), even though the test isn't positive yet.

I started having pregnancy symptoms two weeks before I got a BFP. I took a test a week before the BFP that was BFN. I didn't even want to test again because I was so postive I wasn't pregnant. My cousin talked me into it. So I don't think muffin should count herself out yet.

themuffinman16 · January 2015

I am roughly five days before my missed period. I all ready ovulated this month (took fertility piss challenge). I agree, a lot of my symptoms could mean a brutal period, is coming , but I was cramping last week and nothing this week. I just want to make sure I don't take a chance with the litter because my previous experience was so scary.
There is a good likelihood that I am looking for symptoms, that is why I want to wait 5 days to retest myself, and I am not doing the prenancy piss challenge every day. But I just want to be safe, in case I am pregnant . The darkening of the nips is highly odd, though.

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

LMAO at "piss challenge."

Hang in there Muffin! The wait is the worst.

KatWAG · January 2015

jdluvr06 said:

lolo883 said:

KatWAG said:

lolo883 said:

KatWAG said:

Okay, this is my inner-bumpie coming out. Beware.

If you are pregnant enough to get symptoms, you are pregnant enough to get a positive result. A negative test, means you are not pregnant right now. And PMS symptoms are very similar to early pregnancy symptoms.

Are you temping? Do you know when you ovulated? Because if you arent, then you dont really know when to expect your period.

While, I think its wise to take extra procautions surrounding the cat liter, I would trust the test over your symptoms.
I've had this debate here before... but I really disagree with this. Lots of people have "pregnancy symptoms" before getting a BFP. Maybe they weren't truly pregnancy symptoms at the time, but I think when you're TTC, it's so easy to misinterpret other things as pregnancy symptoms because you want so badly for them to be. You start to pay closer attention to every little thing your body does than you do when you're not TTC. Lots of symptoms are shared between early pregnancy, ovulation, and your hormones adjusting to not being on BC anymore (like sore boobs; apparently I'm 3 months pregnant), so you could have those symptoms before you produce enough pregnancy hormone to get a positive test.

I think its a lot of wishful thinking and hoping. You start farting more and all of the sudden its a pregnancy symptom, even though you ate a huge bowl of chili for lunch.

I really am not trying to be insensitive but I would just be cautious.
Oh I totally agree that it's often wishful thinking. But that doesn't mean that the negative result is wrong, it could mean that what you're feeling isn't a pregnancy symptom YET. Maybe this week's sore boobs are an ovulation symptom, and your little zygote just hasn't implanted yet. It could still be your successful cycle (and one would still want to avoid dangerous things at that point), even though the test isn't positive yet.

I started having pregnancy symptoms two weeks before I got a BFP. I took a test a week before the BFP that was BFN. I didn't even want to test again because I was so postive I wasn't pregnant. My cousin talked me into it. So I don't think muffin should count herself out yet.

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One week post-ovulation (or about a week before your period is due), if there was a fertilized egg, it has not implanted yet, meaning there is no HCG, which means any "symptoms" are not related to pregnancy, as you were not pregnant yet.

I think those symptoms would fall into the catergory that Lolo was referencing above. ie wishing/ hoping for something so badly.

But its great that it ended in a BFP for you

VulgarGirl · January 2015

I do not care when other women piss on whatever sticks they piss on. Just don't show me said stick. You pee'd on it. I don't need to see it to believe you. I believe you. (wifey is the only exception here)

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

KatWAG said:

One week post-ovulation (or about a week before your period is due), if there was a fertilized egg, it has not implanted yet, meaning there is no HCG, which means any "symptoms" are not related to pregnancy, as you were not pregnant yet.

I think those symptoms would fall into the catergory that Lolo was referencing above. ie wishing/ hoping for something so badly.

But its great that it ended in a BFP for you

I think the difference is whether you're talking about "a cycle in which you become pregnant" or "pregnancy at the time of implantation." Whether they're wishful thinking symptoms, or ovulation symptoms, or early pregnancy symptoms doesn't matter. This isn't some philosophical or scientific argument like we're debating whether Plan B "aborts a baby," it's paying attention to whatever signs might make me think there's a BFP in my future this month. Lots of people won't risk a dental x-ray or MRI during their 2WW not because they're scientifically pregnant yet, but because they don't want to risk harming the little zygote that might be floating around in there trying to hang on. So while "if you got a BFN, you're not pregnant" might be technically accurate, it's not particularly helpful to someone trying to decide what dangers to avoid to have the best chance of having a baby.

southernbelle0915 · January 2015

themuffinman16 said:

I am roughly five days before my missed period. I all ready ovulated this month (took fertility piss challenge). I agree, a lot of my symptoms could mean a brutal period, is coming , but I was cramping last week and nothing this week. I just want to make sure I don't take a chance with the litter because my previous experience was so scary. There is a good likelihood that I am looking for symptoms, that is why I want to wait 5 days to retest myself, and I am not doing the prenancy piss challenge every day. But I just want to be safe, in case I am pregnant . The darkening of the nips is highly odd, though.

Ooooo - that means you can take a test in the next few days if you get one of those early detection ones!! Will you tell us if it's positive?

I was surprised to read on the box that 4 days prior is only 58% accurate (like, that's about how well my MIND can predict it). Then 3 days prior it's 88%. Then 2 days prior it's 98%.

themuffinman16 · January 2015

Of course. You ladies will be the third to know. And sharing piss sticks with people is repulsive. In the show, Friends, all I could say when Rachel is hugging Monica and Phoebe was, " you are just shaking a piss stick everywhere, and hugging them."
I wouldn't be friends with anyone who touched me with a pee stick. I will always trust someone when they tell me they are pregnant. I don't need a golden moment with anyone.

mileybangerz · January 2015

MagicInk said:

I do not care when other women piss on whatever sticks they piss on. Just don't show me said stick. You pee'd on it. I don't need to see it to believe you. I believe you. (wifey is the only exception here)

I pee on stuff all the time. SO I shouldn't post pics? Huh.... interesting.

WhatawagSBNy · January 2015

Something people trying to conceive often overlook: Most of the advice you read and that given by practitioners is focused on giving the greatest number of people the greatest likelihood of getting pregnant. I haven't looked up the exact numbers recently though I did for someone not long ago. But although most people have one time in the month when they show a markedly different temperature, and test differently chemically, some have two. Since people tracking chemicals or taking tests usually stop for the month when they get the change, figuring that is their one ovulation time, they don't realize it. Like looking for something, you stop when you find it. So ten to fifteen percent of women aim all their get pg baby dancing at that time, then take a break from it.
As a result, the people in the percentage who ovulate, for the only or the second time in a month, not mid cycle but just before their period is due with the egg coming down the tube just before, during, or at the very end of their period, don't realize their egg is hanging in there alive and waiting for up to five more days.

Many women shed much but not all of the uterine lining so they do have a period right after an egg has passed down but is not fertilized, or shed most after fertilization with the tiny area around the implanted fertilized egg staying in place.

Yes, most conceive in the central 2 1/2 week window named as most likely. But fully 15 % or so are conceived in the other 1 1/2 week around their menstrual period. And that means millions of babies are or could be conceived at the time lots of people have stopped thinking it possible. So many people follow what they have been advised and do not conceive for months or years. Then they stop trying, start doing it every 3-4 days round the calendar and not just in their window, and damn if they don't get pregnant.

This is why the rhythm method of birth control has around a fifteen percent failure rate, all those babies conceived outside the window. It is not that Catholics or others using rhythm are all bad at math. The conception stats are the problem.

For anyone considering a potentially risky behavior, changing cat litter or handling rabbits ir other rodents, or drinking a lot, or other drink/ drug possibilities including a little to drink plus a painkiller , it is not safe to say this is the day before my period, I don't test pregnant so I can take risks for the next week and a half till we start trying next month. Because their may be an egg coming down the tube or at the top of your uterus, or their may be a fertilized egg that had only been fertilized for a day or three and has not shown up in hormone levels. But you may be ready to conceive or just barely pregnant. What you think are preggers symptoms may be just that, or you may have just ovulated which for some has similar symptoms.

So no risky behavior that could affect a conceived child. And don't stop fucking because you think it is a lost cause for the month. Maybe you are one on the ten or fifteen percent who is most likely to conceive right now.

Wegl13 · January 2015

Wait am I hearing that people that are actively trying to make a baby only bang in their fertile window? I always thought it was the stress of being like "omg baby NOW"... But if TTC means only having sex during your ideal fertile window, I get it now.

themuffinman16 · January 2015

H and I have been having sex every other day, throughout the month. We make sure we stick to porking every other day when I am ovulating. Unfortunately... he is out of town, for 14 days this month, so we only had that window to work with. I am an IT widow for the month of January.

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

Wegl13 said:

Wait am I hearing that people that are actively trying to make a baby only bang in their fertile window? I always thought it was the stress of being like "omg baby NOW"... But if TTC means only having sex during your ideal fertile window, I get it now.

Not "only" then. For us, just more specifically then, and I didn't get up to, um, express the spunk out right away. But we still have sex the rest of the time too, because sex.

Unless, of course, your partner has low sperm count, then it's advised to abstain for a few days before banging it out on your most fertile day.

JaniV123 · January 2015

@WhatawagSBNy

I seriously did not understand your post but I am absolutely sure that you have some errors in your train of thought.

It is absolutely impossible to ovulate at the same time you have your period, like not humanly possible. The reason that people have trouble conceiving is because there is a 25% chance of fertility each cycle. This is so because of the hostile environment of the vagina and uterus, and also inflammatory processes. Stress increases these factors and as such cause even more hostility so it is less likely that sperm and egg will meet.

Now ovulation can be delayed as well, or absent, for various reasons that are not exactly understood. You could have all the signs of ovulation and then something happens that it simply doesn't. If this happens your body can a) not ovulate and continue to have a normal period b) gear up to ovulate again and thus having a delayed period.

Anyway implantation occurs 7-9 days after ovulation so until then no hCG would be present in the body. Levels start rising soon after that.

ETA: premature posting

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

JaniV123 said:

@WhatawagSBNy

I seriously did not understand your post but I am absolutely sure that you have some errors in your train of thought.

It is absolutely impossible to ovulate at the same time you have your period, like not humanly possible. The reason that people have trouble conceiving is because there is a 25% chance of fertility each cycle. This is so because of the hostile environment of the vagina and uterus, and also inflammatory processes. Stress increases these factors and as such cause even more hostility so it is less likely that sperm and egg will meet.

Now ovulation can be delayed as well, or absent, for various reasons that are not exactly understood. You could have all the signs of ovulation and then something happens that it simply doesn't. If this happens your body can a) not ovulate and continue to have a normal period b) gear up to ovulate again and thus having a delayed period.

Anyway implantation occurs 7-9 days

Almost. You continue to have what APPEARS to be a normal period, but is really withdrawal bleeding from the drop in hormones, not menstruation.

WhatawagSBNy · January 2015

Lolo883 says "Almost. You continue to have what APPEARS to be a normal period, but is really withdrawal bleeding from the drop in hormones, not menstruation".

Exactly. You may have an egg in process of coming down. You may have a super recently fertalized one barely implanting itself. And your body is keeping enough uterine tissue. But shedding a little older tissue and some blood that sure looks like a period.

It is not the most common thing. But many millions of babies involved. As with any conception, many do not make it past a few days, natural selection.

But it screws up people 's calculations, and affects them emotionally. Lots of people so upset they did not conceive AGAIN. They do not feel like the joy of sex for a week or so.

loveislouder · January 2015

Am I the only one that is patiently waiting for it to be Friday so we know whether to have a drink for Muffin this weekend or let her drink for herself?

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

WhatawagSBNy said:

Lolo883 says "Almost. You continue to have what APPEARS to be a normal period, but is really withdrawal bleeding from the drop in hormones, not menstruation". Exactly. You may have an egg in process of coming down. You may have a super recently fertalized one barely implanting itself. And your body is keeping enough uterine tissue. But shedding a little older tissue and some blood that sure looks like a period. It is not the most common thing. But many millions of babies involved. As with any conception, many do not make it past a few days, natural selection. But it screws up people 's calculations, and affects them emotionally. Lots of people so upset they did not conceive AGAIN. They do not feel like the joy of sex for a week or so.

Mmmmm... where are you getting this info? Yes, it's possible to ovulate from both ovaries in one month, but the hormones produced by the second would prevent the withdrawal bleeding.

themuffinman16 · January 2015

Hey, sorry to be a buzzkill, but I might wait a couple of days longer to take a pregger test. My mom goes in for surgery, tomorrow, and I just want to focus on how she is doing. I feel bad, I am sick, and couldn't even see her before her surgery. So please send warm thoughts for my mom.

It's supposed to be a minor surgery, but my mother has been smoking for the past 40 years. She never tends to recover well from surgery, so I worry.

Inkdancer · January 2015

We can be patient. We'd just be really happy for you!

theartistformerlyknownas · January 2015

All the mojo for lots of good news for you both, Muffin! Take care of yourself.

classicalandedgy · January 2015

themuffinman16 said:

Hey, sorry to be a buzzkill, but I might wait a couple of days longer to take a pregger test. My mom goes in for surgery, tomorrow, and I just want to focus on how she is doing. I feel bad, I am sick, and couldn't even see her before her surgery. So please send warm thoughts for my mom.
It's supposed to be a minor surgery, but my mother has been smoking for the past 40 years. She never tends to recover well from surgery, so I worry.

Positive thoughts going out to you and your mom.

JaniV123 · January 2015

WhatawagSBNy said:

Lolo883 says "Almost. You continue to have what APPEARS to be a normal period, but is really withdrawal bleeding from the drop in hormones, not menstruation". Exactly. You may have an egg in process of coming down. You may have a super recently fertalized one barely implanting itself. And your body is keeping enough uterine tissue. But shedding a little older tissue and some blood that sure looks like a period. It is not the most common thing. But many millions of babies involved. As with any conception, many do not make it past a few days, natural selection. But it screws up people 's calculations, and affects them emotionally. Lots of people so upset they did not conceive AGAIN. They do not feel like the joy of sex for a week or so.

no... what lolo is saying is right, I forgot to put the quotations for "normal period" because she is right, it is withdrawal bleeding. Withdrawal bleeding starts a new cycle in theory, but no egg will be coming down the fallopian tubes. Ovulation will happen if/when the hormone levels get back to the appropriate levels to induce that process.

ETA: if you shed any of the endometrium (uterine lining) implantation wont occur. Now every month only the first 2 layers of the endometrium are shed, the other one remains in order to serve as parent tissue for the next cycle.

JaniV123 · January 2015

themuffinman16 said:

Hey, sorry to be a buzzkill, but I might wait a couple of days longer to take a pregger test. My mom goes in for surgery, tomorrow, and I just want to focus on how she is doing. I feel bad, I am sick, and couldn't even see her before her surgery. So please send warm thoughts for my mom.
It's supposed to be a minor surgery, but my mother has been smoking for the past 40 years. She never tends to recover well from surgery, so I worry.

well wishes for your mom, and for you! we will be patiently waiting for the news!!

emmaaa · January 2015

We will be (not so) patiently waiting for an answer.

Good luck with your mom!

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