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Bachelorette Party Drama

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Cuz you can't have a good bachelorette party without some drama, amirite? Okay, so my girls planned my bachelorette party a few months ago, they rented a house, and we are spending a couple of nights in the Hamptons (YAY!). My MOH reached out to everyone, and started a FB group chat so that they could all discuss logistics, throw out ideas, etc. The point was to make sure that everyone agreed and was comfortable with whatever the plan would be. I have a friend, let's call her J Lo. She was my HS BFF, and I wanted her to be invited. A couple of months ago my MOH told me she was having a hard time with her. Apparently, she was involved in the beginning, but once it was time to finalize things and make final decisions, she just went MIA. My MOH messaged her several times, and she could see that J Lo read the messages, but she was not responding. She even texted her privately. At this point, all the girls agreed on the destination, were fine with the house, and they just needed a finalized count. Everyone was in, except for J Lo, who refused to respond to any more messages. MOH tried one last time to get her to respond by saying that they needed the finalized count so that they could tell everyone the final price. 8 girls were confirmed, and she would have been the 9th, which actually drives up the price (which she was told). She said she was not sure, she can't take off work for 2 days, etc. My MOH reiterated that this would need to be a 2 day commitment - as discussed - because anything else would drive up the price. J Lo never responded, so they booked the house, boom. Confirmation messages were sent, everyone was happy, this was in November.

Well, yesterday, she dug up the chat from November, and basically wrote something along the lines of "I don't understand how me going drives up the price, shouldn't it be less money if I go? FYI people have work, family, responsibilities, you should at least let me try to be involved." My BM explained again why the price would change. J Lo then rudely shot back, "So if I go for just one night, what? I'm supposed to just stay at a hotel?"  So MOH responded by essentially saying "Hey Jlo, no one said you can't be involved, Pinkcow actually told me she wanted you involved. Like BM said, she had to sign a contract and indicate how many pple were coming. When I started this chat, we involved you, and it took you a while to respond. We needed to have this booked by a certain date. It will be great if you can make it, BM will  try and speak with the owner."

My girls handled that extremely well, but I am really annoyed. J Lo and I had a falling apart when I was on college, where she pulled a similar line to the "People have responsibilities, blah blah." We actually did not speak from my sophomore year, until after I graduated. I saw all the conversations, and I saw how many times they tried reaching out to her; I saw that she read the messages and chose not to respond. And for her to act like she is the only one with responsibilities, and this is why she can't make it 2 nights kinda pisses me off. I totally understand that she can't take off work 2 days, even if given advance notice. I know that all jobs are different (she is a teacher).  What rubs me the wrong way is that it's as if she is saying her responsibilities are more important than everyone else's. This is exactly why my MOH started the chat, so that they could all discuss things like these, and maybe change dates, or plans.  I didn't write her messages verbatim, but they were pretty rude.

I am definitely not getting involved, since I shouldn't, and I know that the BM's are mature enough to handle the situation, but I know that they are exasperated by J Lo. As am I. I don't want to vent to my MOH or cousin (we tell each other everything, which is why I know so many details), because I don't want to badmouth her to them. I just really needed to vent to you guys! Honestly, can't we all just get along?!
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  • Sorry you're dealing with this! I had some drama with my bachelorette party the day before we left. Thankfully, everything went okay bachelorette weekend, but the drama still stressed me out. I know it's tough...vent away!
  • Ugh I'm sorry. That's so annoying. At least your BMs did a great job of handling it instead of letting it blow up into worse drama. J Lo just sounds like she's being a jerk, and that's her problem, not theirs and not yours. 
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  • scribe95 said:
    Just out of curiosity, why would the cost go up for 9 people vs. 8 given that it was a house? 
    That was my question too, when my MOH first told me. The house sleeps 8 people (at least that is how the owner states it. I've seen pics, I think it can sleep 10 tbh). So the owner charges for 8 people. Anything above that, she charges extra. I guess that is just her policy. This is exactly why they were trying to get her to confirm whether or not she cold make it. When she ignored all the messages, they decided to move ahead since they had 8 confirmed guests. 
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  • Uuuuggh there really is not bachelorette party that is drama-free, I swear. I attended one where the bride's cousin and aunt got in a fist fight in the bar and we all got kicked out. These were 40 year old women, not 20 year olds!

    For mine, my MOH planned a beach day. Apparently, my friend C was a pain the butt and was like "well I don't like being crammed in full cars, I'll drive myself. But can people give me gas money?" MOH was like um, no, they aren't even giving me money to drive them so why would they do that?? So then C said fine but I can't afford lunch at a restaurant, can we pack a cooler of sandwiches? MOH was disappointed and wanted to bring me for a seafood lunch but agreed and bought $50 worth of food for a cooler.

    Everyone shows up at my house that morning, and MOH is like "Ok so we're just waiting on C then we can leave". I was like umm she didn't tell you that she's not coming? She gave me some excuse about having to work. MOH flipped a shit and told me about all the things above. I felt so bad!

    I think your girls are being MORE than accomodating, I'm a bitch and I would have said that we hounded you and you ignored us and the deadline, so you can't come.

                                                                     

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  • KahlylaKahlyla member
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    ^ That makes sense. I rent out three units via AirBnb and it specifically asks you how many it sleeps and what you want to charge for extra guests. Extra guests will mean more water usage and higher utility bills (and possibly more complaints when they run out of hot water and can't all fit in the driveway and such), so it does make sense to call those guests "extra" even if they can share beds or sleep on the floor or what have you. It kind of gives guests a heads-up that they perhaps shouldn't expect the exact same levels of comfort and privacy.

    I will say that the reason I've personally cited the numbers I have on my listings is because, even though our places can technically sleep more people, I don't want anyone to be disappointed or irate that they wouldn't have a proper bed to themselves, or think I was trying to pull a fast one on them. If people want to bring some friends along and they tell me they're all right sleeping on the floor in a sleeping bag, I'm definitely fine with it and would probably even waive the charge if they asked. But I don't list the place as "Sleeps 6" when it only has two bedrooms, even though there's also a living room and sunroom and three couches, etc. that people could sleep on.

    Long story short, if it helps any perhaps your MOH could simply explain the situation to the owner and ask for a deal. I pretty much always give a deal to anyone who asks, to be honest.
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  • jenna8984 said:

    Uuuuggh there really is not bachelorette party that is drama-free, I swear. I attended one where the bride's cousin and aunt got in a fist fight in the bar and we all got kicked out. These were 40 year old women, not 20 year olds!

    For mine, my MOH planned a beach day. Apparently, my friend C was a pain the butt and was like "well I don't like being crammed in full cars, I'll drive myself. But can people give me gas money?" MOH was like um, no, they aren't even giving me money to drive them so why would they do that?? So then C said fine but I can't afford lunch at a restaurant, can we pack a cooler of sandwiches? MOH was disappointed and wanted to bring me for a seafood lunch but agreed and bought $50 worth of food for a cooler.

    Everyone shows up at my house that morning, and MOH is like "Ok so we're just waiting on C then we can leave". I was like umm she didn't tell you that she's not coming? She gave me some excuse about having to work. MOH flipped a shit and told me about all the things above. I felt so bad!

    I think your girls are being MORE than accomodating, I'm a bitch and I would have said that we hounded you and you ignored us and the deadline, so you can't come.

    Did you post about that? I feel that I remember you posting about the fist fight... either that, or someone else posted about a fist fight at a bachelorette party!

    And Ummm, she wanted people to give HER gas money? That is ridiculous.

    Honestly, I feel the same way. They gave her plenty of time to make up her mind, for her to just rudely message them like that. My cousin (another BM) was going to send a really snarky reply. She just had her 3rd baby last week, and is well aware of responsibilities. She was so infuriated when she saw the message. She decided to stay quiet as to not start anything lol.
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  • Kahlyla said:
    ^ That makes sense. I rent out three units via AirBnb and it specifically asks you how many it sleeps and what you want to charge for extra guests. Extra guests will mean more water usage and higher utility bills (and possibly more complaints when they run out of hot water and can't all fit in the driveway and such), so it does make sense to call those guests "extra" even if they can share beds or sleep on the floor or what have you. It kind of gives guests a heads-up that they perhaps shouldn't expect the exact same levels of comfort and privacy.

    I will say that the reason I've personally cited the numbers I have on my listings is because, even though our places can technically sleep more people, I don't want to anyone to be disappointed or irate that they wouldn't have a proper bed to themselves, or think I was trying to pull a fast one on them. If people want to bring some friends along and they tell me they're all right sleeping on the floor in a sleeping bag, I'm definitely fine with it and would probably even waive the charge if they asked. But I don't list the place as "Sleeps 6" when it only has two bedrooms, even though there's also a living room and sunroom and three couches, etc. that people could sleep on.

    Long story short, if it helps any perhaps your MOH could simply explain the situation to the owner and ask for a deal. I pretty much always give a deal to anyone who asks, to be honest.
    I knew there must have been some reason as to why the extra charge for the extra person. This all makes total sense. I didn't think of any of the reasons you stated above. I don't think they used Air BnB, they may have used HomeawayfromHome or a similar site, so it is probably the same kind of thing. As far as I know, my BM contacted the owner last night, which was really nice of her after those messages they all received.
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  • I had a very similar situation. My friends decided to take me away for the weekend and rent a house in the Finger Lakes. One girl Laney initially said she'd be going for the whole weekend. Then when it came time to book the house, she became totally unresponsive. My MOH told her that they needed a final count by a certain date. She reached out to Laney numerous times, and was completed ignored. 
    Finally after the house was already booked, Laney said she was coming for the weekend. Then she was just coming for one night. It went back and forth like this for weeks apparently. 

    My MOH and few other friends then booked a house for the weekend right near my venue. Laney pulled the same nonsense. Originally said that she wanted in on the house for the wedding. Then said no. After they booked the house, Laney begged them to let her and her boyfriend stay. They ended up getting the room with the pull out couch, and Laney flipped her shit. Mama, that's what happens when your jerk people around on plans! 
  • Thank goodness you have some level-headed friends with all that drama going on! It's crazy how just one person can make it so difficult for everyone else.

     

    My bachelorette party was drama-filled. Two of my best friends attempted to plan this weekend away at a lake house in our area (so less than a 30 minute drive). It had a pool I believe and they had organized all the food, alcohol, games, etc. They had been in touch with the girls I wanted to invite starting in about April - party was in August. Everyone was given ample time to decide if they were able to come and everyone agreed to the plans/cost/etc.

     

    Well, within about two weeks of the party, every single person but one aside from the two planning people bailed - including my sister. My poor friends dealt with so much bullshit and drama and name-calling during that time. They were so scared to tell me because they had been saying what a huge surprise they had for me and it just all fell apart. I was fine with it because honestly, what could I have done? Thrown a fit? Cry? (I did cry when I saw H after they told me). We ended up just having a sleepover a few weeks later with the three of us and drank and ate lots of junk food and watched Mean Girls. Still a lot of fun but all the drama leading up to it sucked.  

  • JLo sounds really self-centered and whiny. It just reeks or people who can't get their shit together so they make it someone else's problem.

    If she's so busy and important, how does she have time to go at all?
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  • I had a very similar situation. My friends decided to take me away for the weekend and rent a house in the Finger Lakes. One girl Laney initially said she'd be going for the whole weekend. Then when it came time to book the house, she became totally unresponsive. My MOH told her that they needed a final count by a certain date. She reached out to Laney numerous times, and was completed ignored. 
    Finally after the house was already booked, Laney said she was coming for the weekend. Then she was just coming for one night. It went back and forth like this for weeks apparently. 

    My MOH and few other friends then booked a house for the weekend right near my venue. Laney pulled the same nonsense. Originally said that she wanted in on the house for the wedding. Then said no. After they booked the house, Laney begged them to let her and her boyfriend stay. They ended up getting the room with the pull out couch, and Laney flipped her shit. Mama, that's what happens when your jerk people around on plans! 
    I totally forgot some of the drama. My MOH had sent out an email in January about going away in July. Literally the next day, I get a text from Laney saying that she wouldn't be able to afford it. I didn't even know what she was talking about at that point. Seriously, who does that? 
  • amelisha said:
    So, just a general thing and not pointed at anyone specifically..but guys, planning stuff like this is pretty much guaranteed to be a headache.

    My friends love to book group holidays, but we are OVER trying to coordinate because there's always some garbage like this every time. We now say "Hey, so-and-so and I have booked this for these dates. We're staying here if you want to book too." and leave it at that. No more group shares of anything unless we can get all the people in the room together with cash in hand.

    We did a group rental of a houseboat (sleeping up to 22 people) for years, and every year it was drama from someone at first so we had to start saying "You have a month to give [friend] $400 to cover your bed, food, gas, and the kegs. First payment gets the best cabins. If you don't pay in time we're just going to keep offering the space to other people until it gets filled so that [friend] isn't footing the bill for this huge boat for a week. Not waiting no matter how much we love you, sorry." But even that after a while just got super frustrating and we haven't done it for a couple years because getting people to commit is such a pain. 

    So yeah...not advice for OP, but lurkers etc., stop trying to do group shares and vacation homes unless you have the money in hand from the people who are interested. It's just too much work.
    I will say that with my core group (Laney not included) we usually don't have any problems booking group trips like this. No one is wishy washy, and people pony up the money right away. 
  • Yes I feel like there is always some drama when it comes to planning outings like this! Glad to see I am not the only one that has experienced it.

    I agree with PP that your spot is reserved once you pay. I did that with a friends bachelorette and almost everyone came and we ended up having like $200 extra after I paid for all of our rooms. I used that money to buy food for a continental breakfast and extra snack food for everyone!

    I am worried about a summer trip we are planning. As kids my parents and aunt and uncle would take us to Maine every year. The parents handled everything and us kids just went and slept on couches and where ever!

    Well we haven't done it for a few years and now all the kids are adults (21 and older), All have SOs (some married). So the place we are renting as 5 bedrooms. Each parent couple is contributing the most financially so they get to pick their rooms. That leaves 3 rooms for 4 couples. 2 rooms with a kings bed and 1 room with a queen and 3 twins (aka a bunk room). It is already getting ugly which couples get the king rooms. Some say teh oldest deserve it, some say the married couples deserve it..... etc.... it could get real ugly!
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  • i had some bad experiences with group stuff (not bachelorette related though). FI was planning a trip for him and i and 2 of his friends. one friend backed out because he couldnt afford to go (mind you the room was only like 250 for 3 nights split 4 ways) well we finally had FI and I pay for the room and the other friend who did not back out did work on a car for the taxes on the whole bill so everything was paid for. then the original friend who backed out decided to go and didnt have to pay a dime. (i was pissed about this) well the whole trip that friend bitched about having to sleep on the floor and this or that and complaining about not having any money. umm seriously?? you didnt pay for the room so quit crabbing. 

    i could not imagine trying a group outing with females. that would just piss me off. i have friends that like to back out at the last minute and it would piss me off. 
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  • I had a very similar situation. My friends decided to take me away for the weekend and rent a house in the Finger Lakes. One girl Laney initially said she'd be going for the whole weekend. Then when it came time to book the house, she became totally unresponsive. My MOH told her that they needed a final count by a certain date. She reached out to Laney numerous times, and was completed ignored. 
    Finally after the house was already booked, Laney said she was coming for the weekend. Then she was just coming for one night. It went back and forth like this for weeks apparently. 

    My MOH and few other friends then booked a house for the weekend right near my venue. Laney pulled the same nonsense. Originally said that she wanted in on the house for the wedding. Then said no. After they booked the house, Laney begged them to let her and her boyfriend stay. They ended up getting the room with the pull out couch, and Laney flipped her shit. Mama, that's what happens when your jerk people around on plans! 
    I totally forgot some of the drama. My MOH had sent out an email in January about going away in July. Literally the next day, I get a text from Laney saying that she wouldn't be able to afford it. I didn't even know what she was talking about at that point. Seriously, who does that? 
    Ugh, Laney sounds like a real trip. There always has to be that one person who complicates things.
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  • I actually just backed out from a big bachelorette party because I knew it would be way more than I could do. If I suddenly come into a bunch of money that's TS for me.

    But on the other hand of this, BMs need to stop planning elaborate partiess without getting the budget of all the other women involved and getting upset when other people can't fork over that much cash and they're stuck footing it. Maybe should have asked if everyone could afford such lavish affairs BEFORE booking it, eh?
    That's the thing - my MOH spoke with everyone about their budget. She started the group chat once she had a clear idea of what the budget was, and they were able to brainstorm. The issue isn't that my friend can't afford to go. The issue is that she can't go for the 2 days, and that she never gave them a firm response, so they went ahead and booked the house, with everyone else who agreed to it. 

    They are not upset that the price will go up - they would prefer for it not to obviously, but what they are really upset about is my friend being super rude and acting as if she was not taken into consideration, when she was. She was the one who decided to ignore them, and then became upset when the house was booked. Like I said, I saw all the communication. I know for a fact that my MOH and the other girls were very aware of everyone's budget, and what they could or could not afford comfortably when they made the decision to book.
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  • When money is involved it always seems to be a mess.. I don't get why people can't just put on their "big kid" pants and deal with it like adults! My best friend got married last summer and sine we were little she has wanted Vegas.. because I love her and could afford it I wanted to give that to her.. One BM was out right from the start and there was no pressure to go. We booked it all and came down to a week before and one of the other girls got a new boss that told her essentially she would cut her shifts to almost nothing if she went so she had to back out. She did the mature thing and still sent me the check for her part of the room, it sucked that she couldn't be there but it ended drama free because of how it was all handled and I totally commend her on that!

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  • mrsk616 said:

    i could not imagine trying a group outing with females. that would just piss me off.
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    just knowing how my friends and family are i just dont have many female friends and others i dont get along with. im also more of a tomboy
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  • I'm having a similar issue - except my MOH didn't discuss budgets beforehand. I don't know how you feel about it, but I'm disappointed I even know about it. I love my MOH and all my BMs, but all I wanted was a drama free bachelorette party! (At least, no drama I knew about!)

  • I'm having a similar issue - except my MOH didn't discuss budgets beforehand. I don't know how you feel about it, but I'm disappointed I even know about it. I love my MOH and all my BMs, but all I wanted was a drama free bachelorette party! (At least, no drama I knew about!)

    Yikes - I told my MOH to make sure budgets were discussed. This was because she originally wanted to plan a trip to Miami, so I told her to consider people's budgets. 

    southernbelle0915 pointed out. A few years ago, she started a fight with my close friend from work at my birthday party. Drama always seems to follow her, ever since we were teens.


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  • amelisha said:
    So, just a general thing and not pointed at anyone specifically..but guys, planning stuff like this is pretty much guaranteed to be a headache.

    My friends love to book group holidays, but we are OVER trying to coordinate because there's always some garbage like this every time. We now say "Hey, so-and-so and I have booked this for these dates. We're staying here if you want to book too." and leave it at that. No more group shares of anything unless we can get all the people in the room together with cash in hand.

    We did a group rental of a houseboat (sleeping up to 22 people) for years, and every year it was drama from someone at first so we had to start saying "You have a month to give [friend] $400 to cover your bed, food, gas, and the kegs. First payment gets the best cabins. If you don't pay in time we're just going to keep offering the space to other people until it gets filled so that [friend] isn't footing the bill for this huge boat for a week. Not waiting no matter how much we love you, sorry." But even that after a while just got super frustrating and we haven't done it for a couple years because getting people to commit is such a pain. 

    So yeah...not advice for OP, but lurkers etc., stop trying to do group shares and vacation homes unless you have the money in hand from the people who are interested. It's just too much work.
    Wow, that's a new level of Hell I'd never even imagined ><

    I'm pretty sure my friends and I are still friends after all of these years because we don't all live together.

    Group vacations can be a blast- when everyone agrees on a date and a location and everyone is responsible for getting their own asses there and responsible for their own lodging ;-)

    Also, the more I read on TK the more I am convinced that multi day OOT bach parties are nothing but drama and a pain in the ass for all involved.  Just keep it simple, ladies.

    "Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."


  • amelisha said:
    So, just a general thing and not pointed at anyone specifically..but guys, planning stuff like this is pretty much guaranteed to be a headache.

    My friends love to book group holidays, but we are OVER trying to coordinate because there's always some garbage like this every time. We now say "Hey, so-and-so and I have booked this for these dates. We're staying here if you want to book too." and leave it at that. No more group shares of anything unless we can get all the people in the room together with cash in hand.

    We did a group rental of a houseboat (sleeping up to 22 people) for years, and every year it was drama from someone at first so we had to start saying "You have a month to give [friend] $400 to cover your bed, food, gas, and the kegs. First payment gets the best cabins. If you don't pay in time we're just going to keep offering the space to other people until it gets filled so that [friend] isn't footing the bill for this huge boat for a week. Not waiting no matter how much we love you, sorry." But even that after a while just got super frustrating and we haven't done it for a couple years because getting people to commit is such a pain. 

    So yeah...not advice for OP, but lurkers etc., stop trying to do group shares and vacation homes unless you have the money in hand from the people who are interested. It's just too much work.
    Wow, that's a new level of Hell I'd never even imagined ><

    I'm pretty sure my friends and I are still friends after all of these years because we don't all live together.

    Group vacations can be a blast- when everyone agrees on a date and a location and everyone is responsible for getting their own asses there and responsible for their own lodging ;-)

    Also, the more I read on TK the more I am convinced that multi day OOT bach parties are nothing but drama and a pain in the ass for all involved.  Just keep it simple, ladies.
    All of this.

    Now I had a multi-day bach party but it was only me and my BM.  And all we did was go to Universal Studios one day and then lay by the pool and drink the remaining days.  Now, if I had two or more people attend then a multi-day thing would have been out and a nice dinner and a few drinks would have been in.

  • Honestly, the houseboating was 100% worth it in the end (I wasn't the one with it on my credit card, but I did take care of all the food/menus for all 22 people, shopping, cooking and preparing everything.) We always had a fantastic time once it actually happened and everyone was great at pitching in to keep the party deck, kitchens, and bathrooms clean, drive the boat, refill the hot tub every morning, etc., but getting the commitment to go in the first place was enough to tear your hair out over the first couple of years.

    Taking a few years off was definitely a relief though. Now we just book ski trips and send out mass texts saying "We're going here and you should come!" Much easier.

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  • amelisha said:
    Honestly, the houseboating was 100% worth it in the end (I wasn't the one with it on my credit card, but I did take care of all the food/menus for all 22 people, shopping, cooking and preparing everything.) We always had a fantastic time once it actually happened and everyone was great at pitching in to keep the party deck, kitchens, and bathrooms clean, drive the boat, refill the hot tub every morning, etc., but getting the commitment to go in the first place was enough to tear your hair out over the first couple of years.

    Taking a few years off was definitely a relief though. Now we just book ski trips and send out mass texts saying "We're going here and you should come!" Much easier.
    I would have thrown myself overboard or drowned everyone else, lol!

    I don't like staying in the same house/condo/cabin/boat with large groups of people.  I've done it in the past and all the fun didn't outweigh the aggravation and drama.  But I have had a shit load of fun when I have gone on vacations with other people and we had our own rooms or a few people only to a suite.

    "Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."


  • amelisha said:
    Honestly, the houseboating was 100% worth it in the end (I wasn't the one with it on my credit card, but I did take care of all the food/menus for all 22 people, shopping, cooking and preparing everything.) We always had a fantastic time once it actually happened and everyone was great at pitching in to keep the party deck, kitchens, and bathrooms clean, drive the boat, refill the hot tub every morning, etc., but getting the commitment to go in the first place was enough to tear your hair out over the first couple of years.

    Taking a few years off was definitely a relief though. Now we just book ski trips and send out mass texts saying "We're going here and you should come!" Much easier.
    I would have thrown myself overboard or drowned everyone else, lol!

    I don't like staying in the same house/condo/cabin/boat with large groups of people.  I've done it in the past and all the fun didn't outweigh the aggravation and drama.  But I have had a shit load of fun when I have gone on vacations with other people and we had our own rooms or a few people only to a suite.
    We did have our own cabins - my friends are too old and princessy for room-sharing, lol. It never actually felt small or crowded because it was such a big (three-story) fancy boat, and sometimes I would go an entire day and realize I hadn't even seen some people. But I know what you mean about own rooms and such. Shared space isn't for everyone.

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  • mrsk616 said:
    i had some bad experiences with group stuff (not bachelorette related though). FI was planning a trip for him and i and 2 of his friends. one friend backed out because he couldnt afford to go (mind you the room was only like 250 for 3 nights split 4 ways) well we finally had FI and I pay for the room and the other friend who did not back out did work on a car for the taxes on the whole bill so everything was paid for. then the original friend who backed out decided to go and didnt have to pay a dime. (i was pissed about this) well the whole trip that friend bitched about having to sleep on the floor and this or that and complaining about not having any money. umm seriously?? you didnt pay for the room so quit crabbing. 

    i could not imagine trying a group outing with females. that would just piss me off. i have friends that like to back out at the last minute and it would piss me off. 
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    LOL just 1 of da guyz girlz r 2 dramatic 
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  • larrygagalarrygaga member
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    edited January 2015
    I hate the "I'm too busy with my real life to respond to you" assholes. No you aren't too busy to send a 4 second text or facebook message. Bare minimum. 

    If you are than MAYBE you need to loosen up your schedule a tad.
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