I'm a Grouchy Diva (slight vent)

lyndausvi · May 2015

I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

lovegood90 · May 2015

lyndausvi said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.

I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.

frenchiekin · May 2015

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.

I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.

I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and b) I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

ETF that god damn sunglasses smiley

lovegood90 · May 2015

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.

I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and

I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

Totally! It definitely overcomplicates an already complicated situation so it'll have to be one or the other.

Yeah BF quickly realized that he wouldn't want to be tied to anyone else's schedule and he gets grumpy on long drives, so that was an easy win, haha!

PrettyGirlLost · May 2015

lovegood90 said:
@lyndausvi @PrettyGirlLost - oh, definitely not a true house for 10 or 12 or however many people they planned! I hate this "sleeps 10" crap- NO it does not "sleep 10" if half the fucking people are on the couch.
Also totally agree about sleeping on other people's sheets. And I totally bet the other girlfriends in the house that I'm also close with are probably having this same argument. But again, since they're mainly BFs crew I have to kind of step back.
I agree that something has to give. We'll see how it pans out, but I'm getting more and more frustrated with this situation; it seems like the only way I can ensure I'll be 100% comfortable without any issues is to just book our own freaking room right now.

Do it!

Then at least you can stay there if your BF is insistent on not rocking the damn boat. Hell, the other SO's might want to join you, so you might want to book 2 rooms or a suite ;-)

Then all the idiot guys can crash on the couches and floors like the aftermath of a frat party.

Who said it sleeps 10? The bride and groom? Your BF? Or the property manager that owns the place?

PrettyGirlLost · May 2015

lovegood90 said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

Totally! It definitely overcomplicates an already complicated situation so it'll have to be one or the other.

Yeah BF quickly realized that he wouldn't want to be tied to anyone else's schedule and he gets grumpy on long drives, so that was an easy win, haha!

Wait- I thought the reason you guys weren't carpooling is because you didn't want to spend all that extra time at this wedding and take the extra days of off work?

So now if you guys draw a bedroom, you will take the extra days off and go up there earlier?

And that still doesn't fix the issue that 12 ppl will have to share a single bathroom. Which pretty much 100% guarantees that there's not going to be enough hot water to allow you all to shower over the course of this multiple day stay, let alone the day of the actual wedding when everyone needs to shower and get ready.

Stop the insanity. Tell BF to nut up and come stay at the hotel with you, or just stay at the hotel on your own, lol.

lovegood90 · May 2015

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

Totally! It definitely overcomplicates an already complicated situation so it'll have to be one or the other.
Yeah BF quickly realized that he wouldn't want to be tied to anyone else's schedule and he gets grumpy on long drives, so that was an easy win, haha!

Wait- I thought the reason you guys weren't carpooling is because you didn't want to spend all that extra time at this wedding and take the extra days of off work?

So now if you guys draw a bedroom, you will take the extra days off and go up there earlier?

And that still doesn't fix the issue that 12 ppl will have to share a single bathroom. Which pretty much 100% guarantees that there's not going to be enough hot water to allow you all to shower over the course of this multiple day stay, let alone the day of the actual wedding when everyone needs to shower and get ready.

Stop the insanity. Tell BF to nut up and come stay at the hotel with you, or just stay at the hotel on your own, lol.

Gah, yes this is all still true. You Knotties know how to keep my logic in line.

I found a place to stay that's a 5 minute drive away (or 35 minute walk, apparently! Drunk wandering through the woods, anyone?)- I'm booking that tonight as a backup.

KatWAG · May 2015

Get your own place, stop wasting time and energy with this straw nonsense.

I could get over sleeping on a sofa. But I cant get onboard with one bathroom for 12 people. I didn't even do that in college. Do you have to bring your own towel? What happens if someone takes a chipotle sized poop and breaks the toilet? Is there enough toilet paper provided for 12 butts and 3 days? What happens if the shower drain gets clogged from hair?

frenchiekin · May 2015

KatWAG said:
Get your own place, stop wasting time and energy with this straw nonsense.
I could get over sleeping on a sofa. But I cant get onboard with one bathroom for 12 people. I didn't even do that in college. Do you have to bring your own towel? What happens if someone takes a chipotle sized poop and breaks the toilet? Is there enough toilet paper provided for 12 butts and 3 days? What happens if the shower drain gets clogged from hair?

THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

PrettyGirlLost · May 2015

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.

I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and b) I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

ETF that god damn sunglasses smiley

You in this comment = general sense, not specifically Frenchie.

Wouldn't you just figure out the per night cost, and then everyone pays for the number of nights they actually stay? That's pretty straightforward. It's what we do when we go to gaming conventions and we split rooms or suites with people.

You don't charge people based on the quaility or type of room in the house they are staying in, or what they are sleeping on- that is just silly. You rented a house, you're not booking different types of rooms in a hotel- like the penthouse vs. a suite vs. a single room. That's where rates vary based on room quality.

Otherwise, you sleep in the house, you pay for the number of nights you sleep in the house, regardless of where you were physically sleeping. If you don't like the fact that you are sleeping on the couch and paying as much for the accommodations as the person sleeping in a bed in a bedroom, then rent a larger house next time so everyone gets an actual bed or book your own room elsewhere.

KatWAG · May 2015

frenchiekin said:

KatWAG said:
Get your own place, stop wasting time and energy with this straw nonsense.
I could get over sleeping on a sofa. But I cant get onboard with one bathroom for 12 people. I didn't even do that in college. Do you have to bring your own towel? What happens if someone takes a chipotle sized poop and breaks the toilet? Is there enough toilet paper provided for 12 butts and 3 days? What happens if the shower drain gets clogged from hair?
THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that is why its terrifying and a bad idea.

PrettyGirlLost · May 2015

lovegood90 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

Totally! It definitely overcomplicates an already complicated situation so it'll have to be one or the other.
Yeah BF quickly realized that he wouldn't want to be tied to anyone else's schedule and he gets grumpy on long drives, so that was an easy win, haha!
Wait- I thought the reason you guys weren't carpooling is because you didn't want to spend all that extra time at this wedding and take the extra days of off work?

So now if you guys draw a bedroom, you will take the extra days off and go up there earlier?

And that still doesn't fix the issue that 12 ppl will have to share a single bathroom. Which pretty much 100% guarantees that there's not going to be enough hot water to allow you all to shower over the course of this multiple day stay, let alone the day of the actual wedding when everyone needs to shower and get ready.

Stop the insanity. Tell BF to nut up and come stay at the hotel with you, or just stay at the hotel on your own, lol.

Gah, yes this is all still true. You Knotties know how to keep my logic in line.

I found a place to stay that's a 5 minute drive away (or 35 minute walk, apparently! Drunk wandering through the woods, anyone?)- I'm booking that tonight as a backup.

5min drive?! WTF, bride and groom, why are you cramming your guests into the stupid lake houses?!

Backup my ass- you are staying there, girl! IDGAF where your BF stays! ;-)

Shit, if I liked the other random SO's I'd offer to let them come shower and get ready in my room. Bless their hearts.

frenchiekin · May 2015

PrettyGirlLost said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and b) I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

ETF that god damn sunglasses smiley

You in this comment = general sense, not specifically Frenchie.

Wouldn't you just figure out the per night cost, and then everyone pays for the number of nights they actually stay? That's pretty straightforward. It's what we do when we go to gaming conventions and we split rooms or suites with people.

You don't charge people based on the quaility or type of room in the house they are staying in, or what they are sleeping on- that is just silly. You rented a house, you're not booking different types of rooms in a hotel- like the penthouse vs. a suite vs. a single room. That's where rates vary based on room quality.

Otherwise, you sleep in the house, you pay for the number of nights you sleep in the house, regardless of where you were physically sleeping. If you don't like the fact that you are sleeping on the couch and paying as much for the accommodations as the person sleeping in a bed in a bedroom, then rent a larger house next time so everyone gets an actual bed or book your own room elsewhere.

Oh, I 100% agree with you. That's how I would do it. But there are always people who will argue over splitting costs in accordance with room/bed type, or if the majority of the group (especially the organizers of said vaca) are staying for all of the nights and a few are staying for less, they'll fight for splitting it by number of people because reasons (cheaper, easier to math). This happened at said beach house and after letting it go because drama I decided I shall not beach house with this particular group in the future.

lovegood90 · May 2015

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

Totally! It definitely overcomplicates an already complicated situation so it'll have to be one or the other.
Yeah BF quickly realized that he wouldn't want to be tied to anyone else's schedule and he gets grumpy on long drives, so that was an easy win, haha!
Wait- I thought the reason you guys weren't carpooling is because you didn't want to spend all that extra time at this wedding and take the extra days of off work?

So now if you guys draw a bedroom, you will take the extra days off and go up there earlier?

And that still doesn't fix the issue that 12 ppl will have to share a single bathroom. Which pretty much 100% guarantees that there's not going to be enough hot water to allow you all to shower over the course of this multiple day stay, let alone the day of the actual wedding when everyone needs to shower and get ready.

Stop the insanity. Tell BF to nut up and come stay at the hotel with you, or just stay at the hotel on your own, lol.

Gah, yes this is all still true. You Knotties know how to keep my logic in line.
I found a place to stay that's a 5 minute drive away (or 35 minute walk, apparently! Drunk wandering through the woods, anyone?)- I'm booking that tonight as a backup.

5min drive?! WTF, bride and groom, why are you cramming your guests into the stupid lake houses?!

Backup my ass- you are staying there, girl! IDGAF where your BF stays! ;-)

Shit, if I liked the other random SO's I'd offer to let them come shower and get ready in my room. Bless their hearts.

This is an AWESOME idea. Done.

PrettyGirlLost · May 2015

frenchiekin said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and b) I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

ETF that god damn sunglasses smiley
You in this comment = general sense, not specifically Frenchie.

Wouldn't you just figure out the per night cost, and then everyone pays for the number of nights they actually stay? That's pretty straightforward. It's what we do when we go to gaming conventions and we split rooms or suites with people.

You don't charge people based on the quaility or type of room in the house they are staying in, or what they are sleeping on- that is just silly. You rented a house, you're not booking different types of rooms in a hotel- like the penthouse vs. a suite vs. a single room. That's where rates vary based on room quality.

Otherwise, you sleep in the house, you pay for the number of nights you sleep in the house, regardless of where you were physically sleeping. If you don't like the fact that you are sleeping on the couch and paying as much for the accommodations as the person sleeping in a bed in a bedroom, then rent a larger house next time so everyone gets an actual bed or book your own room elsewhere.

Oh, I 100% agree with you. That's how I would do it. But there are always people who will argue over splitting costs in accordance with room/bed type, or if the majority of the group (especially the organizers of said vaca) are staying for all of the nights and a few are staying for less, they'll fight for splitting it by number of people because reasons (cheaper, easier to math). This happened at said beach house and after letting it go because drama I decided I shall not beach house with this particular group in the future.

You can vaca with me. We seem to both use the logic metric in splitting costs, lol.

OliveOilsMom · May 2015

lovegood90 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

Totally! It definitely overcomplicates an already complicated situation so it'll have to be one or the other.
Yeah BF quickly realized that he wouldn't want to be tied to anyone else's schedule and he gets grumpy on long drives, so that was an easy win, haha!
Wait- I thought the reason you guys weren't carpooling is because you didn't want to spend all that extra time at this wedding and take the extra days of off work?

So now if you guys draw a bedroom, you will take the extra days off and go up there earlier?

And that still doesn't fix the issue that 12 ppl will have to share a single bathroom. Which pretty much 100% guarantees that there's not going to be enough hot water to allow you all to shower over the course of this multiple day stay, let alone the day of the actual wedding when everyone needs to shower and get ready.

Stop the insanity. Tell BF to nut up and come stay at the hotel with you, or just stay at the hotel on your own, lol.

Gah, yes this is all still true. You Knotties know how to keep my logic in line.
I found a place to stay that's a 5 minute drive away (or 35 minute walk, apparently! Drunk wandering through the woods, anyone?)- I'm booking that tonight as a backup.

5min drive?! WTF, bride and groom, why are you cramming your guests into the stupid lake houses?!

Backup my ass- you are staying there, girl! IDGAF where your BF stays! ;-)

Shit, if I liked the other random SO's I'd offer to let them come shower and get ready in my room. Bless their hearts.

This is an AWESOME idea. Done.

I don't know why BF is afraid to rock the boat. If I heard a couple was backing out of the cabin I'd be happy because that's one less person I need to compete for a bedroom with. Also two less people who need bathroom time. Give BF this line, "Hey guys, lovegood and I found a hotel that is 5 minutes away. We are going to stay there to give someone else a better shot at having a bed. That also means two less people who will need to use that one bathroom to get ready prior to the wedding. Especially, since the wedding is formal!"

NowIAmSyp · May 2015

OliveOilsMom said:

lovegood90 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

lovegood90 said:

frenchiekin said:

lovegood90 said:
I've been thinking about this too much. Ha.

Wanting your own room is not being a diva.

Showing up a few days later and expecting a room to be available for your use is being a diva IMO.

And what about the payment? Do you pay the same amount of money for staying 1 night or 3 nights? I would be fucking pissed if I had to pay for 3 nights and sleep on a sofa when you just showed up paying for one night and get a bed.

You coming in a few days later is a game changer for me. I feel like you lose your ability to pick a prime room when you are not arriving at the same day as everyone else.

Yes, I 100% agree. Ever since the PP upthread made this point I've been realizing it's not fair. I'd be pissed at me too.
I need to confirm with BF what days everyone is staying and paying for. Maybe the compromise is we take our own car up but still stay 3 nights in the bedroom so it's fair, OR we drive up and stay 1-2 nights and get our own room somewhere else.
I was wondering the same - how is the payment being broken out if you are staying for less time than everyone else? We've done group beach houses in similar situations and it just becomes way more complicated than it's worth. There's never a payment solution that everyone in the group agrees with.

To the bolded, I think this is the only way this can happen. If you draw a bed, you need to commit to 3 nights unless you are willing to take the couch. If you draw the couch, get your own place.

Also, I would not under any circumstances be carpooling with people I wasn't super close to for that long of a drive. A) close quarters in a car makes me insanely claustrophobic, especially on long drives, and I DESPISE being tied to other people's schedules/whims (i.e., they are running late so you don't leave on time, or you REALLY want to just go home on the last day and your car-mates want to stay longer). Maybe it's just me but carpooling for something like this is one of my least favorite things on earth.

Totally! It definitely overcomplicates an already complicated situation so it'll have to be one or the other.
Yeah BF quickly realized that he wouldn't want to be tied to anyone else's schedule and he gets grumpy on long drives, so that was an easy win, haha!
Wait- I thought the reason you guys weren't carpooling is because you didn't want to spend all that extra time at this wedding and take the extra days of off work?

So now if you guys draw a bedroom, you will take the extra days off and go up there earlier?

And that still doesn't fix the issue that 12 ppl will have to share a single bathroom. Which pretty much 100% guarantees that there's not going to be enough hot water to allow you all to shower over the course of this multiple day stay, let alone the day of the actual wedding when everyone needs to shower and get ready.

Stop the insanity. Tell BF to nut up and come stay at the hotel with you, or just stay at the hotel on your own, lol.

Gah, yes this is all still true. You Knotties know how to keep my logic in line.
I found a place to stay that's a 5 minute drive away (or 35 minute walk, apparently! Drunk wandering through the woods, anyone?)- I'm booking that tonight as a backup.

5min drive?! WTF, bride and groom, why are you cramming your guests into the stupid lake houses?!

Backup my ass- you are staying there, girl! IDGAF where your BF stays! ;-)

Shit, if I liked the other random SO's I'd offer to let them come shower and get ready in my room. Bless their hearts.
This is an AWESOME idea. Done.

I don't know why BF is afraid to rock the boat. If I heard a couple was backing out of the cabin I'd be happy because that's one less person I need to compete for a bedroom with. Also two less people who need bathroom time. Give BF this line, "Hey guys, lovegood and I found a hotel that is 5 minutes away. We are going to stay there to give someone else a better shot at having a bed. That also means two less people who will need to use that one bathroom to get ready prior to the wedding. Especially, since the wedding is formal!"

It's all in how you sell it!

annathy03 · May 2015

Stay in the hotel room 5 minutes away.

This reminds me of a ski trip H and I took years ago that still pisses me off thinking about it. H wasn't very involved in the planning (and since it was his crew and I'd only met the couple we were driving up with I wasn't at all) and told me there were enough bedrooms for all the couples. Us and another couple arrived together a few hours after the rest of the group, there were only 3 bedrooms and of course, the couples there had claimed the two "couple-y" bedrooms, the singles the bunk bed room, and the four of us got to share the living room because the couple who booked the place (and got the master) didn't want to book the bigger condo since that would increase the price per person. Oh, and H and I were still long distance at the time. I was so pissed to be spending a decent chunk of my vacation time like that having no privacy with my SO who I only saw one weekend a month at most and nowhere to lay down during the day (when I had a headache I had to lay down in the hallway because our "bed" had people chilling on it) all so that our we could subsidize the cost. Had I known what we were walking into I 100% would have booked a hotel.

And that was with 2 bathrooms and no formal wedding to get ready for.

frenchiekin · May 2015

annathy03 said:
Stay in the hotel room 5 minutes away.

This reminds me of a ski trip H and I took years ago that still pisses me off thinking about it. H wasn't very involved in the planning (and since it was his crew and I'd only met the couple we were driving up with I wasn't at all) and told me there were enough bedrooms for all the couples. Us and another couple arrived together a few hours after the rest of the group, there were only 3 bedrooms and of course, the couples there had claimed the two "couple-y" bedrooms, the singles the bunk bed room, and the four of us got to share the living room because the couple who booked the place (and got the master) didn't want to book the bigger condo since that would increase the price per person. Oh, and H and I were still long distance at the time. I was so pissed to be spending a decent chunk of my vacation time like that having no privacy with my SO who I only saw one weekend a month at most and nowhere to lay down during the day (when I had a headache I had to lay down in the hallway because our "bed" had people chilling on it) all so that our we could subsidize the cost. Had I known what we were walking into I 100% would have booked a hotel.

And that was with 2 bathrooms and no formal wedding to get ready for.

This sounds like my worst nightmare.

Well, almost... but pretty effing close.

lovegood90 · May 2015

frenchiekin said:

annathy03 said:
Stay in the hotel room 5 minutes away.

This reminds me of a ski trip H and I took years ago that still pisses me off thinking about it. H wasn't very involved in the planning (and since it was his crew and I'd only met the couple we were driving up with I wasn't at all) and told me there were enough bedrooms for all the couples. Us and another couple arrived together a few hours after the rest of the group, there were only 3 bedrooms and of course, the couples there had claimed the two "couple-y" bedrooms, the singles the bunk bed room, and the four of us got to share the living room because the couple who booked the place (and got the master) didn't want to book the bigger condo since that would increase the price per person. Oh, and H and I were still long distance at the time. I was so pissed to be spending a decent chunk of my vacation time like that having no privacy with my SO who I only saw one weekend a month at most and nowhere to lay down during the day (when I had a headache I had to lay down in the hallway because our "bed" had people chilling on it) all so that our we could subsidize the cost. Had I known what we were walking into I 100% would have booked a hotel.

And that was with 2 bathrooms and no formal wedding to get ready for.
This sounds like my worst nightmare.

Well, almost... but pretty effing close.

Holy shit that sounds AWFUL. Just nope, nope, nooooope all around.

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