I can't get past inviting 30+ co-workers to a wedding, let alone a shower. Wow.
Bottom line is 2 wrongs do not make a right. You sent out an STD, you should have invited them. Period. Not RSVPing to a shower does not equal retracting an invitation. The right thing to do is to send her the information.
Now, if you do not care what 30-something former co-workers think, then ignore them all. However, that can be suicide in certain industries. When looking for your next job you have over 30 people who can put in the 2 cents on what kind-of a person you are. Officially or unofficially.
What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests. Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated.
The right thing to do is to invite her to your wedding and provide her with directions, as well as anyone else you sent a save-the-date to, even if the shower was cancelled and you are no longer in touch with them.
I have a guest list crisis. When I started wedding planning, I had a good job with lots of coworkers who I sent Save The Date cards too as well as invitations to my bridal shower.
Of the 30+ coworkers I invited to the bridal shower, only 4 sent RSVPs. I quit my job a few weeks prior to the shower, but due to this poor response of RSVPs, I cancelled the shower, not wanting my bridesmaid to go through the hassle and expense of planning something that no one obviously cared to go to or even respond to.
Since all that happened, I have not yet been able to find a job and therefore I'm having some major budgeting crisis. I realize it's a faux pas to invite people to your shower and then not to your wedding (even if the shower got cancelled), and its a faux pas to send people Save The Date cards but not an invitation. But given the circumstances that none of my old coworkers have bothered to stay in touch, there's a good chance I'll never see them again, and they didn't bother to RSVP to the shower and they didn't care that it had to be canceled, I chose not to send them invitations to the wedding.
I just got a message from a former coworker who got a Save the Date card, and an invitation to the bridal shower (which got cancelled, as she was one who did NOT RSVP). Now she is asking for directions to the wedding even though she never got an invitation. What should I do? Ignore her? Tell her that because she didn't RSVP to the shower I chose not to invite her and the other coworkers to the wedding? What do I do if she or others show up at the wedding anyway?
See bolded.You must send invitations to those who recieved STDs. Burning bridges with your former coworkers is a bad idea. You never know when you might have to cross that bridge again.
The only way to reduce your guest list, after sending STDs, would be to cancel the wedding and send out announcement that 'The marriage of X and Z will not take place on Date, as planned.' And then you elope or have a small immediate family wedding on a different date.
You invited these people to your wedding. That shipped has sailed. You have 2 choices:
1. Pair down your wedding so you can afford to have all those people you invited, whatever that means. And don't give us the BS about how you can't afford that. Get married at 2pm, get some veggie trays and cake from Publix, and call it a day.
2. Cancel the wedding, send out mailings to that effect, then replan with a significantly paired down guest list at a later time. If you are going to go that route, then you are going to have to deal with people asking questions, and you are going to come off as super rude if that replanning doesn't cut down the guest list significantly.
And just as an FYI, if you think that you are never going to see or hear from those former coworkers and that makes it okay to burn bridges, you are dead wrong. If you plan on working ever again, you are going to learn that it is a small, small world and whatever you do is going to come back to bite you in the butt.
I also do not understand how you can go from caring so much about 30 people that you want to include them in your wedding to caring so little about them that you don't care if you horribly offend and/or never see them again.
You have a couple of options if you want to do the right thing- though I'm not sure how close you are to the wedding, so some of these may not apply. I think your best bet, as much as it sucks, is probably to cancel this wedding and plan to do it later when you are more financially stable. This has the twofold benefit of taking some pressure off of fact that you are struggling to find at job and also un-obligating you from inviting the people you original sent STDs to, because it's a whole new event.
Failing that, you should reprioritize what you are spending money on so you can send invites to all the people you sent STD's to. This could actually work out really well with the advice I just gave you on a different thread- instead of doing a full meal you could do apps, a dessert bar, cake and punch- just make sure you don't have a reception that takes place over a meal time. Again, not sure when your wedding is but if it's far enough in the future that you could still send invites, this could be a compromise (though some people will still side-eye you for sure for the invites being seriously late).
Other than those options, there's really nothing you can do without looking like a total ass in the situation. Like Lynda said, if you really don't care about hurting these people you could just ignore them forever, but I certainly wouldn't be comfortable with 30 people having me on their shit list like that- especially people that 1) I at one point liked enough to invite to me wedding, 2) presumably live in the same town as me and 3) work in my industry.
Again, nothing to do really about people who show up thinking their invited (because they were)- it would be beyond ungracious to turn them away so I would plan to have some extra food and seating on hand.
These forums get a lot of people on here who basically write some variation of "I want to/have decided to do this very rude thing, what do y'all think" and then get really mad when people don't reaffirm them and act understanding of their bad decisions. I'm crossing my fingers you aren't one of those people.
Did anyone ever follow up with the coworkers for shower RSVPs? Were they mailed invidual invitations to their homes or did someone just tack an invitation to break room bulletin board. It seems really strange that none of them answered.
You invited these people to your wedding. That shipped has sailed. You have 2 choices:
1. Pair down your wedding so you can afford to have all those people you invited, whatever that means. And don't give us the BS about how you can't afford that. Get married at 2pm, get some veggie trays and cake from Publix, and call it a day.
2. Cancel the wedding, send out mailings to that effect, then replan with a significantly paired down guest list at a later time. If you are going to go that route, then you are going to have to deal with people asking questions, and you are going to come off as super rude if that replanning doesn't cut down the guest list significantly.
And just as an FYI, if you think that you are never going to see or hear from those former coworkers and that makes it okay to burn bridges, you are dead wrong. If you plan on working ever again, you are going to learn that it is a small, small world and whatever you do is going to come back to bite you in the butt.
QFT
We were living in state 1. DH interviews for a chef position at a very small place in a very small town in state 2. The number #2 where he interviewed with was from from state 3, which we had lived before (same city too). #2 guy saw DH's resume and made some phone calls to get the 411 on him. Come to find out we know some of the same people from the islands, but never met ourselves. The food industry isn't exactly small, yet are always finding connections to others we know in the industry in other cities or states. Oh, he got the job.
What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests. Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated.
Did anyone ever follow up with the coworkers for shower RSVPs? Were they mailed invidual invitations to their homes or did someone just tack an invitation to break room bulletin board. It seems really strange that none of them answered.
I'm curious too. I got the impression from the way you wrote your post, OP, that you were planning your own shower. Please tell me I'm wrong.
The bridesmaids planned the shower and sent out very formal, expensive invitations to each person's home. Only 4 of these people returned their RSVP card (presumably because I had quit working at by the time they were sent out and they assumed they'd never see me again so why bother spending money on a gift or even replying). The bridesmaids then contacted me and suggested I cancel because they didn't think anyone would show up. I contacted the few who did RSVP (whether they said yes or no) to thank them for responding and explain to them why we were canceling.
You quit your job and are now having a budget crisis. This budget crisis is partly your fault, so you should not be punishing your former co-workers. And, unfortunately, its not that uncommon for people to not RSVP for parties nowadays.
If someone is asking for directions to your wedding, it is probably close enough that these people should have received their invitations a while ago, right? So you are probably just looking for justification in not inviting these people, right? Well, I don't think you will get that here because you are totally in the wrong.
The bridesmaids planned the shower and sent out very formal, expensive invitations to each person's home. Only 4 of these people returned their RSVP card (presumably because I had quit working at by the time they were sent out and they assumed they'd never see me again so why bother spending money on a gift or even replying). The bridesmaids then contacted me and suggested I cancel because they didn't think anyone would show up. I contacted the few who did RSVP (whether they said yes or no) to thank them for responding and explain to them why we were canceling.
I'm sorry to hear that. It was rude of those people to not respond to the shower invitation.
I've got to to be honest here- I also don't get the canceling because so many people from work didn't RSVP, and that made the presumption "no one would come.".... I'm assuming you invited like, your family and friends too right? Because I didn't even invite a total of 30 women to my shower, and people (like my mom and grandma and MIL and SIL) still came. Like how many people RSVP'd yes? Because I would think if there's over 4, you've got a fun party.
Everyone gave good advice. Yes, you should give this person directions and apologize that she didn't receive a formal invitation (because she should have).
Also, off topic, why did you quit your job without the prospect of a new one and then fix to burning bridges with the very people who could serve as references? You don't have to answer, but I'm genuinely curious when people do stuff like that.
You invited 30+ coworkers to your bridal shower? You canceled the entire shower because your coworkers didn't respond? What about the other guests? You sent STDs to a large number of people and then never send them wedding invites? You quit your job without having any prospects on the horizon and now can't afford to host people you already invited?
Everyone gave good advice. Yes, you should give this person directions and apologize that she didn't receive a formal invitation (because she should have).
Also, off topic, why did you quit your job without the prospect of a new one and then fix to burning bridges with the very people who could serve as references? You don't have to answer, but I'm genuinely curious when people do stuff like that.
This!!!
The person who's calling to ask for the info - likely cares in real world terms what happens to you (and probably wishes they had the gonzos to do what you did but can't). Yes, give them the details and ask if they're bringing a SO. As others have said, be careful when burning bridges, "It's a small world" really is the case in far too many industries! Even if the quitting of that job went down like the Titanic, things have a crazy way of coming around.
Unless someone else contacts you, I'd just leave the sleeping dog lie here after this person. I'm going to assume that the 30 STD/invites were "Courtesy Invites" as per office norm for that company/business decorum and since you've cut ties, it means you're no longer obligated if that was in fact the case. If you were inviting them because of legit "I'd love them there" and not "unwritten office policy", get the invites out ASAP.
P.S. The best baby shower I ever attended had four of us in attendance, it's not how many attend it's your attitude...
TL;dr: You quit your job and now cannot afford the wedding you've planned and invited people to.
Cancel the wedding and send out notices. Elope, or postpone. Focus on getting a new job, and then plan something you can completely afford up-front so you're not in the position to make the same mistake again.
Also, I'm not sure what industry/city/state you're in, but you really shouldn't burn bridges like this. Like a PP said, what if you had wanted to use any of these people as references? What if you end up working with one of these people in the future? Or worse, what if you end up working FOR one of them. You have no idea what the future could hold for you career-wise.
Get on the telephone first thing tomorrow and call these people. When is your wedding? Shame on you for not sending them all wedding invitations. There is absolutely no excuse for your behavior. Apologize to them, and ask if they were planning on coming to your wedding. (I wouldn't. I would have written you off as a self centered, bad mannered girl.) If they say that they were planning on coming, you need to make a place for them, and welcome them.
is it just me or does it sound like she (or maybe someone else) planned a coworker shower for her? because otherwise I don't see why you would cancel just because those people couldn't make it and presumably others could. and especially if you don't really care if they come anyway. so weird.
another reason why you only invite coworkers you truly care about and are friends with outside of work
Also, I'm not sure what industry/city/state you're in, but you really shouldn't burn bridges like this. Like a PP said, what if you had wanted to use any of these people as references? What if you end up working with one of these people in the future? Or worse, what if you end up working FOR one of them. You have no idea what the future could hold for you career-wise.
As I read it, my first thought was "Noooooo, right when you are looking for work (and should be working your network, hard) is the absolute last time you'd want to start burning bridges." Not even burning, more like blowing those bridges up.
Maybe I'm just tired this morning, but none of this makes any sense. Were the coworkers the only people invited to the shower? Why did you quit your job if you couldn't afford the wedding without it? Like, were you in danger of being indicted or something, and you couldn't hang on a couple more months until the expenses were covered?
Maybe it's just me, but this is like the M.C. Escher of posts: the closer I look, the less sense it all makes.
is it just me or does it sound like she (or maybe someone else) planned a coworker shower for her? because otherwise I don't see why you would cancel just because those people couldn't make it and presumably others could. and especially if you don't really care if they come anyway. so weird.
another reason why you only invite coworkers you truly care about and are friends with outside of work
Except she said that the bridesmaids sent out formal invitations which required returning an RSVP card (which strikes me as overkill for a bridal shower). I've seen coworker showers hosted by co-workers, but not bridesmaids, and they were always pretty informal.
Was your entire guest list comprised of coworkers? I'm trying to figure out this shower scenario and why you'd cancel it because only a few coworkers were coming. What about your other family and friends?
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is it just me or does it sound like she (or maybe someone else) planned a coworker shower for her? because otherwise I don't see why you would cancel just because those people couldn't make it and presumably others could. and especially if you don't really care if they come anyway. so weird.
another reason why you only invite coworkers you truly care about and are friends with outside of work
Except she said that the bridesmaids sent out formal invitations which required returning an RSVP card (which strikes me as overkill for a bridal shower). I've seen coworker showers hosted by co-workers, but not bridesmaids, and they were always pretty informal.
This whole thing is so confusing.
you forgot they were EXPENSIVE formal invitations. Like somehow if they were cheap Vista invitations it would excuse the lack of a RSVP ::rolls eyes::
I agree it seems like overkill for a bridal shower.
What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests. Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated.
is it just me or does it sound like she (or maybe someone else) planned a coworker shower for her? because otherwise I don't see why you would cancel just because those people couldn't make it and presumably others could. and especially if you don't really care if they come anyway. so weird.
another reason why you only invite coworkers you truly care about and are friends with outside of work
Except she said that the bridesmaids sent out formal invitations which required returning an RSVP card (which strikes me as overkill for a bridal shower). I've seen coworker showers hosted by co-workers, but not bridesmaids, and they were always pretty informal.
This whole thing is so confusing.
you forgot they were EXPENSIVE formal invitations. Like somehow if they were cheap Vista invitations it would excuse the lack of a RSVP ::rolls eyes::
I agree it seems like overkill for a bridal shower.
Well, I ordered my sister's bach party invites from VistaPrint and everyone RSVPed.
I am still hung up on why the shower was canceled. So odd.
Same here... and I sure hope you didn't tell the people who did RSVP yes that you're cancelling because "nobody was coming". That's basically telling those people they are "nobodies".
And for the record, I had like 30 or so people on my guest list for my shower (not hosted by me). 14 people came, and out of those, only 3 of them were friends my age, the rest were mostly older relatives. Other friends didn't come for various reasons... other commitments, being out of town, etc etc. It was still a very nice shower and everyone said they had a good time.
I'm still curious how far away the wedding is. If it's still a ways off and there's time to invite people, I would.
If these people really have written you off and don't care about you anymore, they will either decline or not respond to your wedding invitation either. And that means you won't have to pay for them anyway.
If some do respond yes, then it means there were still bridges there you don't want to burn.
Re: Guest List Crisis
1. Pair down your wedding so you can afford to have all those people you invited, whatever that means. And don't give us the BS about how you can't afford that. Get married at 2pm, get some veggie trays and cake from Publix, and call it a day.
2. Cancel the wedding, send out mailings to that effect, then replan with a significantly paired down guest list at a later time. If you are going to go that route, then you are going to have to deal with people asking questions, and you are going to come off as super rude if that replanning doesn't cut down the guest list significantly.
And just as an FYI, if you think that you are never going to see or hear from those former coworkers and that makes it okay to burn bridges, you are dead wrong. If you plan on working ever again, you are going to learn that it is a small, small world and whatever you do is going to come back to bite you in the butt.
Also, off topic, why did you quit your job without the prospect of a new one and then fix to burning bridges with the very people who could serve as references? You don't have to answer, but I'm genuinely curious when people do stuff like that.
You invited 30+ coworkers to your bridal shower?
You canceled the entire shower because your coworkers didn't respond? What about the other guests?
You sent STDs to a large number of people and then never send them wedding invites?
You quit your job without having any prospects on the horizon and now can't afford to host people you already invited?
This!!!
The person who's calling to ask for the info - likely cares in real world terms what happens to you (and probably wishes they had the gonzos to do what you did but can't). Yes, give them the details and ask if they're bringing a SO. As others have said, be careful when burning bridges, "It's a small world" really is the case in far too many industries! Even if the quitting of that job went down like the Titanic, things have a crazy way of coming around.
Unless someone else contacts you, I'd just leave the sleeping dog lie here after this person. I'm going to assume that the 30 STD/invites were "Courtesy Invites" as per office norm for that company/business decorum and since you've cut ties, it means you're no longer obligated if that was in fact the case. If you were inviting them because of legit "I'd love them there" and not "unwritten office policy", get the invites out ASAP.
P.S. The best baby shower I ever attended had four of us in attendance, it's not how many attend it's your attitude...
Cancel the wedding and send out notices. Elope, or postpone. Focus on getting a new job, and then plan something you can completely afford up-front so you're not in the position to make the same mistake again.
Apologize to them, and ask if they were planning on coming to your wedding. (I wouldn't. I would have written you off as a self centered, bad mannered girl.) If they say that they were planning on coming, you need to make a place for them, and welcome them.
is it just me or does it sound like she (or maybe someone else) planned a coworker shower for her? because otherwise I don't see why you would cancel just because those people couldn't make it and presumably others could. and especially if you don't really care if they come anyway. so weird.
another reason why you only invite coworkers you truly care about and are friends with outside of work
As I read it, my first thought was "Noooooo, right when you are looking for work (and should be working your network, hard) is the absolute last time you'd want to start burning bridges." Not even burning, more like blowing those bridges up.
Maybe I'm just tired this morning, but none of this makes any sense. Were the coworkers the only people invited to the shower? Why did you quit your job if you couldn't afford the wedding without it? Like, were you in danger of being indicted or something, and you couldn't hang on a couple more months until the expenses were covered?
Maybe it's just me, but this is like the M.C. Escher of posts: the closer I look, the less sense it all makes.
If you want to thank subsequent posters for good advice, just do it in another post in the same thread.
If it's still a ways off and there's time to invite people, I would.
If these people really have written you off and don't care about you anymore, they will either decline or not respond to your wedding invitation either. And that means you won't have to pay for them anyway.
If some do respond yes, then it means there were still bridges there you don't want to burn.