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Guest list conundrums....I'll try getting help again.

I can't beleive I'm trying this again but I do believe that the info you gather the better...so it goes. The guest list is extremely tight. We can only afford around 80 guests. Several friends have been cut from the list to accomadate family members. I know that you have to invite family, blah blah blah. this isnt about that. Please dont go there.

 My question is the plus one drama. This wedding is basically family. If you take the 2 girls in my wedding party + the 3 close friends on my side and the 6 friends on the grooms side, it is literally all family. I have 2 Groomside family members who have been making a very large stink about not being able to bring a plus one.

One has been in a "relationship" for a small amount of time and no on ehas met this person. The other is in a very young, unstable relationship and really probably wont be together come wedding time.

Plus there is an aunt creating even more drama by dragging the MOG into a "so-so may not come if you dont invite their person" dialogue.

So please, here i am, i have already taken people off the list that have meant a very good deal to me to accomadate family i dont even know. To let a college kid threathening to throw a fit and not come control any more of my list seems COMPLETELY unfair.


have at it ladies and gents.

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Re: Guest list conundrums....I'll try getting help again.

  • this isnt being petty. I swear people. the tables are at there max. so in this one small rare case, yes adding 2 people means adding a whole other table, creating another centerpiece, more linens, rearranging the whole seating chart so these 2 people are not sitting by themselves because there is no room at the tables where there singificant others are, adding people to the food total...I'm not trying to be petty in anyway.

    for those who want to not invite the family members that i do not know, I'll send them here and you can tell them. All the stuff i read outside of here said u can try to not invite certain family but it is up to you to deal with the backlash. I was trying to avoid said backlash all to get some for the above issue.


    I just cant seem to win and the thing is...I'm not enjoying this part of the wedding planning. the planning, for me, is the fun part. It's the creative part, the moment part. I dont want people arguing over anything if i could have it that way but that is unrealistic, i know. but would it really hurt anyone to maybe cut the couple some slack and maybe lay off the drama.


    for the record, we are paying for everything.


  • Contrary to popular consensus on these boards, the etiquette mavens require couples to be invited together socially only if said couples have made it clear that they wish to be so invited. (This can be done a number of ways, most explicitly by getting married, but also by moving in together, getting engaged, or even asking that they be treated as a social unit.)

    Unfortunately for the OP, the individuals in question have essentially done the latter. By insisting that their current dates be invited, they've essentially declared themselves to be social units, which does obligate you to invite them.

    If these relationships are not particularly serious (which isn't your place to judge, but we have to acknowledge it's a possibility), it's rather rude of them to insist on being able to bring a date, but if they're willing to pose as a committed couple (i.e., as a social unit), then polite society requires us to go along with it.
  • You still have to invite all significant others. If you weren't going to take suggestions on ways to make that happen, why did you even bother asking?
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  • this isnt being petty. I swear people. the tables are at there max. so in this one small rare case, yes adding 2 people means adding a whole other table, creating another centerpiece, more linens, rearranging the whole seating chart so these 2 people are not sitting by themselves because there is no room at the tables where there singificant others are, adding people to the food total...I'm not trying to be petty in anyway.

    for those who want to not invite the family members that i do not know, I'll send them here and you can tell them. All the stuff i read outside of here said u can try to not invite certain family but it is up to you to deal with the backlash. I was trying to avoid said backlash all to get some for the above issue.


    I just cant seem to win and the thing is...I'm not enjoying this part of the wedding planning. the planning, for me, is the fun part. It's the creative part, the moment part. I dont want people arguing over anything if i could have it that way but that is unrealistic, i know. but would it really hurt anyone to maybe cut the couple some slack and maybe lay off the drama.


    for the record, we are paying for everything.


    Boo-Freaking-Hoo! Guess what so am I! So are the majority of people on here! This is not an excuse. When I made up a preliminary guest list after getting engaged, anyone who was not in a relationship got a soft one, guess what? Three of those people are in relationships now and my wedding isn't for another year. Those three people could be married and/or pushed out a baby by then. Circumstances change, you have to keep that in mind.

    You either invite people's significant others and cut the family that you don't want, or you will be considered rude. Here's the thing, I come from a huge family. Do you know how many aunts, uncles, cousins I'm inviting to my wedding? 0. We are having a small, intimate wedding. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for what you want and can afford. 
  • auriannaaurianna member
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    edited September 2016

    this isnt being petty. I swear people. the tables are at there max. so in this one small rare case, yes adding 2 people means adding a whole other table, creating another centerpiece, more linens, rearranging the whole seating chart so these 2 people are not sitting by themselves because there is no room at the tables where there singificant others are, adding people to the food total...I'm not trying to be petty in anyway.

    for those who want to not invite the family members that i do not know, I'll send them here and you can tell them. All the stuff i read outside of here said u can try to not invite certain family but it is up to you to deal with the backlash. I was trying to avoid said backlash all to get some for the above issue.


    I just cant seem to win and the thing is...I'm not enjoying this part of the wedding planning. the planning, for me, is the fun part. It's the creative part, the moment part. I dont want people arguing over anything if i could have it that way but that is unrealistic, i know. but would it really hurt anyone to maybe cut the couple some slack and maybe lay off the drama.


    for the record, we are paying for everything.



    Ok, if I'm reading this as your sticking all the SOs of the bridal party at a table by themselves [so I assume the bridal party can sit at the head table], you need to rework your seating chart regardless. Significant others need to be seated with their dates. You can't separate the bridal party from their SOs for dinner. That's really rude.
    The bridal party needs to be seated with their dates.

    So your options are...
    -If you want a head table, get one big enough for dates.
    -You can do a sweetheart table with just bride and groom and let bridal party sit throughout the rooms with their date, friends, and family.
    -You can do a king's table with bride, groom, best man, made of honor, and their dates.
    -You can sit at a normal, non-featured table, with your family and let your bridal party sit with their dates at other tables.


    Those are the only polite options.
    Etiquette is about making your guests comfortable.
    The dates of the bridal party will be waaaay more comfortable with their dates, not at the randoms table.
    Your bridal party will be way more comfortable seated with the current most important person in their life.

    It sucks that you might have to change some things up to include two more people... but that's the way it is. You picked a venue that didn't work for your guest list and now you have to deal with it. Sorry. :(
  • I can't beleive I'm trying this again but I do believe that the info you gather the better...so it goes. The guest list is extremely tight. We can only afford around 80 guests. Several friends have been cut from the list to accomadate family members. I know that you have to invite family, blah blah blah. this isnt about that. Please dont go there.

     My question is the plus one drama. This wedding is basically family. If you take the 2 girls in my wedding party + the 3 close friends on my side and the 6 friends on the grooms side, it is literally all family. I have 2 Groomside family members who have been making a very large stink about not being able to bring a plus one.

    One has been in a "relationship" for a small amount of time and no on ehas met this person. The other is in a very young, unstable relationship and really probably wont be together come wedding time.

    Plus there is an aunt creating even more drama by dragging the MOG into a "so-so may not come if you dont invite their person" dialogue.

    So please, here i am, i have already taken people off the list that have meant a very good deal to me to accomadate family i dont even know. To let a college kid threathening to throw a fit and not come control any more of my list seems COMPLETELY unfair.


    have at it ladies and gents.

    If they're in a relationship when the invitations are sent, you are rude to exclude their SO. Invite them.
  • It's annoying that you've had to cut friends, but you'll see on the boards that a lot of us have also had to make cuts, because weddings are really expensive.  Sit down with your FI and prioritize what's most important- if your wedding won't be the same without the friends you cut, maybe drop the centerpieces/favors/programs, or host a dry wedding, or buy a dress from David's bridal for a couple hundred dollars instead of something more expensive.  The budgeting board has even better ideas- and I only bring this up since you seemed bummed to have cut the guest list. 

    That said, everyone in a relationship has to be invited with their SO.  You don't have to invite every last cousin, or even the aunt that's complained, but only if you're prepared for more family drama.  
  • CMGragainCMGragain member
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    edited September 2016
    Daughter's MOH asked to bring her new boyfriend.  I said OK.  It was a new relationship back then.  Five years later, they are still a couple and living together.  You never know.  Let the kid bring his girlfriend.
    Tell Auntie. "I'm very sorry, but our guest list is complete."
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  • The only thing that could give you an out with one SO is the "young" couple. If the person is under 18 you are not obligated to invite gf/bf. It would be nice to do so though. If you are the poster I'm thinking of, the family you aren't close to are the MOG's siblings and MOG wants them there. I think that close of family trumps friends.
  • 1st off, please stop calling me rude. you people have no idea the details of my total situation. so stop judging like you do. the bridal party has it owns table because no one else has a plus one or the plus one is in the party. I tried again on this horrible website and i got judge again with out full facts. I'm not doing flowers by the way. someone posted about getting cheaper flowers.

    if i had posted that if i didnt want to invite memebrs of the grooms side of the family because i had never met them you guys would have ripped into me for that. i'm not talking 1st or 2nd or 3rd cousins. i'm talking aunts and uncles on 2 very large families that arent very close with him anymore. Ugh, doenst matter.

    the guest list is stressful, i get it. I have those 3 close friends who arent bringing their husbands because they get the family situation. they understand that i have family i have to invite. I guess i would just like the same reciprocated on the side of the guest list is all.


     

  • 1st off, please stop calling me rude. you people have no idea the details of my total situation. so stop judging like you do. the bridal party has it owns table because no one else has a plus one or the plus one is in the party. I tried again on this horrible website and i got judge again with out full facts. I'm not doing flowers by the way. someone posted about getting cheaper flowers.

    if i had posted that if i didnt want to invite memebrs of the grooms side of the family because i had never met them you guys would have ripped into me for that. i'm not talking 1st or 2nd or 3rd cousins. i'm talking aunts and uncles on 2 very large families that arent very close with him anymore. Ugh, doenst matter.

    the guest list is stressful, i get it. I have those 3 close friends who arent bringing their husbands because they get the family situation. they understand that i have family i have to invite. I guess i would just like the same reciprocated on the side of the guest list is all.


     

    The problem is what you're doing is rude. If your venue won't accommodate your guest list, then you planned poorly in choosing your venue; you needed the budget and guest list first (with a potential SO for every adult guest) and then you book the venue.

    Don't be surprised that not everyone is going to be understanding of your rudeness; they are allowed to feel how they feel about it, and they're justified in being offended because not inviting their SO is rude.
  • 1st off, please stop calling me rude. you people have no idea the details of my total situation. so stop judging like you do. the bridal party has it owns table because no one else has a plus one or the plus one is in the party. I tried again on this horrible website and i got judge again with out full facts. I'm not doing flowers by the way. someone posted about getting cheaper flowers.


    But before you said this "because there is no room at the tables where there singificant others are"

    I'm confused. That makes it sound like you have a table of just SOs. If that's not the case, then good! That also means then you just need to squeeze two more SOs at the head table. Just get a slightly bigger table. Or do a king's table or sweetheart table instead. Easy peasy.
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