Minimum ages to buy liquor and cigarettes, but not to get married?

Re: Minimum ages to buy liquor and cigarettes, but not to get married?

• GBCK member

  

  February 2018

  it's a form of trafficking that doesn't get nearly enough attention.
  
  It's how my SIL was trafficked, it's a way of hiding statutory rape, it's a way of forced marriages in conservative religions.
  
  ANd it's fucking horrifying.
  And I"m refusing to read more on it right now.
  

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• sparklepants41 member

  

  February 2018

  GBCK said:

  it's a form of trafficking that doesn't get nearly enough attention.
  
  It's how my SIL was trafficked, it's a way of hiding statutory rape, it's a way of forced marriages in conservative religions.
  
  ANd it's fucking horrifying.
  And I"m refusing to read more on it right now.
  

  All of this.
  
  Plus more often than not, the very same people who won't vote to ban child marriage because "the government shouldn't be in decisions like marriage" have also voted to ban marriages between two consenting adults of the same sex. 
  
  It's beyond horrifying. 

  

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• VarunaTT member

  

  February 2018 edited February 2018

  Because the Missouri Legislature is the circle of Hell Dante didn't know about.  I loathe nearly every Republican in it, with every fiber of my being.  There used to be a handful of Republicans that were actually decent human beings, there to support their constituents.  Now, it's just a goddamn free for all lobbyist party, determined to follow Kansas' path of destruction.  Literally, copies the laws of Kansas that have proven to be devastating to Kansas' economy, but HEY, LET'S TRY AGAIN, and also let's fuck a few other demographics along the way like seniors, children, women, and the LGBTQ+ population.
  
  ETA:  My ED did just come back from Lobby Day and said they had never seen such a diverse Lobby Day or so many people.  She said that the atmosphere was very different from previous Lobby Days and hopes that it means a change is coming.

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• charlotte989875 member

  

  February 2018

  Also your governor @VarunaTT; WTF is up with that?!

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• VarunaTT member

  

  February 2018

  I am so glad he was indicted and I hope he's found guilty.  It's still very up in the air, because (as of last night) the defendant is still refusing to testify and Greitans is still denying it (but also doesn't seem to want to have his day in court).  I was horrified when that story came out and rumors are that there are many more affairs, which makes me worry that there is more abuse.
  
  That man is an asshole of the first degree.  I still can't believe his damn campaign commercial that was him shooting a gun.  It was so unbelievably patriarchal is so many ways.  Hell, he's a patriarchy poster boy.
  
  Missouri politics are a cancer right now.  There are so many cishet white men who are just gaming and abusing the system for their rush of power.  There are those fighting against it, but it's a damn hard fight.  
  
  The MO Republicans don't like listening to Dems, but especially no freshmen Dems.  So, they've been pulling some parliamentary procedure bullshit to shut down the freshman Dems.  Last night, they pulled the same shit and the rep that was talking yelled, "Seriously?" and went to the Speaker and lit the Speaker up.  The Speaker shut down the legislature for the day.  And the person lined up to be the new Speaker is the same damn gross story.  

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• southernbelle0915 mod

  

  February 2018

  It's not exactly a secret that low (or no) age restrictions for marriage adversely affect solely women, so I'm not at ALL shocked that conservatives won't address the issue. "Child husbands" (versus "brides") isn't a thing. 
  
  If it were older women  taking advantage of and marrying young boys, you bet men on capital hill (republicans and democrats alike) would be addressing this with a sense of priority.  

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• short+sassy member

  

  February 2018 edited February 2018

  I was just so absolutely stunned that more than half the states don't even have a minimum age requirement for marriage.  Utter insanity.  Obviously one would hope that no judge anywhere would allow a 10-year-old to get married, but there is no law prohibiting it in those states. 

  I could maybe have even chalked that up to being an archaic law oversight...like you'll sometimes see an article listing funny laws that are still on the books, ie you can't whistle on Sunday while leading your mule down the main street.

  Except it has been a problem and has helped victimize girls.  So when a law finally came up to address this issue, that should have just been a rubber-stamped no-brainer, there were 50 legislators who opposed it.  That's not an "archaic law" oversight. 

  

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• banana468 member

  

  February 2018

  Wow.   I'm lucky that at least in this state it's the same age for men and women.  18 w/o parental consent and 16 w/ parental consent.   My MIL needed her mom to sign off on her "throwing her life away" to marry FIL.   They're still together 46 years later.

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• Ro041 member

  

  February 2018

  VarunaTT said:

  I am so glad he was indicted and I hope he's found guilty.  It's still very up in the air, because (as of last night) the defendant  victim is still refusing to testify and Greitans is still denying it (but also doesn't seem to want to have his day in court).  I was horrified when that story came out and rumors are that there are many more affairs, which makes me worry that there is more abuse.
  
  That man is an asshole of the first degree.  I still can't believe his damn campaign commercial that was him shooting a gun.  It was so unbelievably patriarchal is so many ways.  Hell, he's a patriarchy poster boy.
  
  Missouri politics are a cancer right now.  There are so many cishet white men who are just gaming and abusing the system for their rush of power.  There are those fighting against it, but it's a damn hard fight.  
  
  The MO Republicans don't like listening to Dems, but especially no freshmen Dems.  So, they've been pulling some parliamentary procedure bullshit to shut down the freshman Dems.  Last night, they pulled the same shit and the rep that was talking yelled, "Seriously?" and went to the Speaker and lit the Speaker up.  The Speaker shut down the legislature for the day.  And the person lined up to be the new Speaker is the same damn gross story.  

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• VarunaTT member

  

  February 2018

  That is true, thank you.

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• ahoywedding member

  

  February 2018

  southernbelle0915 said:

  It's not exactly a secret that low (or no) age restrictions for marriage adversely affect solely women, so I'm not at ALL shocked that conservatives won't address the issue. "Child husbands" (versus "brides") isn't a thing. 
  
  If it were older women  taking advantage of and marrying young boys, you bet men on capital hill (republicans and democrats alike) would be addressing this with a sense of priority.  

  If half the shit that affected women also impacted men the same way, our laws would look a lot different. 

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• levioosa member

  

  February 2018

  ahoywedding said:

  southernbelle0915 said:

  It's not exactly a secret that low (or no) age restrictions for marriage adversely affect solely women, so I'm not at ALL shocked that conservatives won't address the issue. "Child husbands" (versus "brides") isn't a thing. 
  
  If it were older women  taking advantage of and marrying young boys, you bet men on capital hill (republicans and democrats alike) would be addressing this with a sense of priority.  

  If half the shit that affected women also impacted men the same way, our laws would look a lot different. 

  A-fucking-men. 

  
  

  
  

  

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