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The Goat Mass

mrsconn23mrsconn23 member
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edited June 2020 in Wedding Woes
I FOUND IT!   WonderW1fe is former knottie who sadly passed away from cancer almost 10 years ago.  Another former knottie saved a bunch of her stuff on a shared document.  Please note this was written way back when you couldn't cuss on the knot. 

Wwife had such a way of telling a story.  And her MIL provided the BEST material. 

Anyway, enjoy.  

PART ONE
As you all are aware, my MIL is fvkcing bananas and quite possibly the biggest attention whore on the East Coast. My SIL had a destination wedding in 2004 and MIL planned the entire damn thing. And really, it was a DIY, Clip Art, lavendar and Precious Moments nightmare. So. Not. My. Style. But whatever, it's not like I was invited anyway. (A-whole-nother story there)

When it came time to plan our wedding, MIL had this idea in her head that I hatched out of an egg the day DH proposed, and I had no family of my own. She constantly tried to horn in on the planning. And not in a "How can I help?" kind of way, but a "back up and let me do this 'cause you are not nearly as classy as I am" way. Thankfully DH shot down her efforts at fvkery with great vigor, and I ignored her calls and email suggestions on sht like liturgical dancers and flower girl dresses (we had no flower girl). Well, this frustrated her to no end. No one was paying any attention to her and it made her grind her teeth into powder.

Our wedding was in September '05. By June '05, MIL had had enough of my thwarting her planning her son's wedding. Clearly I was an unappreciative little wench that had no idea of the depth of style she possessed. She decided that she would plan her own shin dig to get some of that spotlight back where it belongs. Imagine our surprise when, about halfway through June, we got a printed invitation to MIL&FIL's 34th anniversary party and vow renewal, being held at the ILs house about a month before our wedding. And I mean, a real invitation, with Glamour Shot of MIL & FIL on the front and information on what charity to donate to in lieu of gifts.

Even still, I didn't realize the depth of ridiculousness until she started calling to get us to help out.

One of DH's uncles owns a goat farm way out in southern MD. MIL & FIL live way up in northern MD. Now, MD ain't the biggest state in the world, but it's a btch to drive from one end to the other. MIL wanted DH to do the following the Friday before the rewedding:

-drive from work (in DC) to the farm to pick up a freshly killed goat. (Jamaicans eat a lot of goat. It's good. But this was some weird 'killing the fatted calf" type sht. Plus, at the time, DH was driving a Dodge Intrepid. Goats are not small)
- drive back to DC to pick up Father Tom (not his real name), a family friend that was going to perform the vow renewal at the house
- Take goat and Father Tom up to the ILs, stopping along the way to get beer, wine and sodas for the party
- drop off goat and Father, take MIL to caterers to finalize the rest of the food
- take MIL back to the house, then drive back home (we live just outside of DC)

Needless to say, DH hit the roof. There was no goat at this mass, and Father Tom took the Metro.

PART TWO
MIL asked us to be there around 10 am the day of the thing. We got there and damn if they weren't still in PJs. SIL & her new husband showed up like, "Hey guys! Come help us with the tents!"

*record scratch*

Tents! WTF tents?! My ILs house is smaller than ours, yet there we were strapping tents to the fence posts. There wasn't a piece of yard not covered by the tent. Then I had to set up the tables, complete with table clothes, place settings and centerpieces. There were banners, ballons that said "Happy Anniversary!" and a giant 3 and 4 balloon. 'Cause, you know, they don't make balloons for a thirty-the-hell-fourth anniversary. It was absolutely (fvkc it) retarded.

MIL left to pick up the catered food, screeching the whole time to DH about how unhelpful he was and how it would be his fault if this didn't go right. He cracked open a beer right in her face and said, "And why should I care?" Yes, he was drinking a beer at 11 am. It was necessary.

FIL came downstairs most befuddled. To this day I don't think he really knew WTF his wife had in mind. All he knew was some people were coming over and there was a tent in his back yard. He had on some shorts and a Hawaiian shirt. Woe was he when MIL came home and harpied him into a suit. He was confused as hell.

She slapped down the food in front of me and barked, "Set this up!" I blinked at her. She ran upstairs and changed. The broad had on a white floor length sleeveless dress with flowers in her hair and white sandals. FIL looked like he wanted to laugh when he saw her, but he was wise enough to STFU when she looked in his direction.

Now, I was petty and also wore white, but it was a sundress. And I had a white flower in my hair. Because fvkc her, I knew exactly what she was trying to do. Thunderjacking heifer. DH & I were so onto her.

Some people started showing up, so MIL decided it was time to get it going. She rushed Father Tom into his full priestly vestments and got him her best crystal goblet for the Eucharist. I'm so not kidding here. We had mass in the living room. I'm pretty sure Father Tom is a hack, 'cause I've never heard of mass being said anywhere outside of the church, but what did I know? I wasn't having a church wedding anyway, as MIL so often reminded me. SIL and a cousin did the readings, there was a choir director (no choir) and there was communion. DH & I chose not to partake in that. I may not believe in Catholicism anymore but I don't go messing with their rules either.

LA FINALE
After High Holy Living Room, we adjourned to the kitchen. MIL tried to station me behind the chafing dishes to serve food, but I conveniently had to go to the bathroom just then. After that I wandered just out of her sight so's not to be put to work. DH hid in the basement for a while, but soon enough people were there paying attention to MIL, so she left us relatively alone.

By now it's about 1 pm and everyone (about 50 people, all dressed for a picnic) filed out back and took their seats. MIL was unhappy at everyone's casual dress, but WTF did she expect? The sht was just bootleg; chairs sinking into the grass, mad bugs and sht, and the tent was like the 9th circle of Hell by then. MIL & FIL had their own table under a separate smaller tent with a fan. I noticed this random guy wandering around and I asked DH who he was. He didn't know, so he asked SIL and she didn't know. We were scratching our heads when the dude whipped out a profesional grade camera and began taking photos of everybody.

MIL had hired a gaadamn photographer to capture this event. We roared with laughter.

She had a cake cutting, first dance, everything. Our eyes were just wide the whole time. The thing went on for hours and hours. Finally DH stood up and said, "Ok, I've had enough" and we left.

A FEW MORE TIDBITS
- Apparently MIL held SIL & BIL's top layer of wedding cake hostage. MIL broke it out at the Goat Mass and berated them into cutting it then and there, even though their anniversary was 3 months before.

- A lot of people showed up thinking it was supposed to be a picnic for us! They didn't tell her, though, once it was established that she was bonkers.

- Considering the spread she'd put out for 34th anniversary, everyone waited with bated breath for the 35th. What level of shenanigans would she come up with? The day came and went and not a peep was heard.

And now: why I wasn't invited to SILs wedding

SIL had a pretty tight circle of friends. When she got engaged, it was kind of assumed that they'd be her BMs. But when it came time to ask, she asked some of her cousins, who are MUCH younger than she is, and oddly enough, me.

While I never begrudge a bride her WP of choice, SIL picked us because "I have to look at these pictures for the rest of my life". That's right; her friends simply weren't pretty enough. I'm positive MIL had more than a little to do with that. I'm not making this up; SIL told me this to my face. I guess I was supposed to be flattered, but I was disgusted.

I told her thanks, but no thanks. Thus, I wasn't invited at all. I was not as upset about this as you may think. DH went and he had a horrible time. He was basically the day of coordinator, but no one told him this until the day of the wedding. Ha! Poor DH. Though he loves planning, he doesn't like to be unprepared. He's miffed about it to this day.


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    I finally had to block her profile on FB.  It kept getting suggested to me for friends and I didn't want to see it.  I still miss the stories and her promise to be "old, gray, and knitting a sweater on the porch for WW."
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    I remember seeing stories from others posted. Her MIL is a piece of work, and I genuinely wonder how her FIL stayed with her :\ 
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    Goat mass might be my new favorite phrase. 
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    Wow. Just...wow.
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    @mrsconn23, thanks for digging this up.  That was a great and interesting read!  WonderW1fe is before my time, but it sounds like she was hilarious and a gem.  I'm sorry to hear she died way too young.
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    We can swear on here?

    how the fuck did I not know this?

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    VarunaTT said:
    We can swear on here?

    how the fuck did I not know this?
    Man, back in the day we used to get in all sorts of trouble for all sorts of shit.

    TBF....there were some hella big dramas.  The entire Elfgate thing, the feather in the butt photoshoot, all of the Roses4EveryWhore stuffs, (a lot of this was NEY), Chad's identity being possibly made up and his brilliant blaze out, when MasonDixonWed got into it with that trashwoman who started photoshopping Mason and her husband's face onto porn photos...it was all definitely  more interesting.  Sometimes the "newbies" here will post stuff that I"m like STOP BEING SO PERSONAL YOU NEVER KNOW...oh hell, there's no one here anymore.

    Also, as soon as we could curse and gif I had posted the Friend's scene of Chandler zooming in on that wood animal and the verbiage was, "Fuck It All!!!" and had to remove it b/c my "fuck" was directed at someone.  
    I remember Chad and do not remember why he left.   Did he get called out and then just duck and run? 
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    There are 2 things I remember, but I do not remember the order:

    1.  He made a drunken post one night, professing his love for some Knottie b/c she reminded him of a close relative who had passed.  I remember a big deal being made about that post, but I cannot recall if he DD'd and ran or just never came back after that.

    2.  Someone found an internet diary of some sorts being hosted by an older woman, who was talking about her experience of creating a persona of a gay man on a wedding website.  I do not remember the Knottie who supposedly found it (it could be Knottie mythos at this point) or where the diary was.

    I can't remember the order of these 2 events.  I am no HMonkey.  
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    VarunaTT said:
    We can swear on here?

    how the fuck did I not know this?
    Man, back in the day we used to get in all sorts of trouble for all sorts of shit.

    TBF....there were some hella big dramas.  The entire Elfgate thing, the feather in the butt photoshoot, all of the Roses4EveryWhore stuffs, (a lot of this was NEY), Chad's identity being possibly made up and his brilliant blaze out, when MasonDixonWed got into it with that trashwoman who started photoshopping Mason and her husband's face onto porn photos...it was all definitely  more interesting.  Sometimes the "newbies" here will post stuff that I"m like STOP BEING SO PERSONAL YOU NEVER KNOW...oh hell, there's no one here anymore.

    Also, as soon as we could curse and gif I had posted the Friend's scene of Chandler zooming in on that wood animal and the verbiage was, "Fuck It All!!!" and had to remove it b/c my "fuck" was directed at someone.  
    Damn old Knot was brutal. I remember some of the newer old days with all the people on NYE that were super harsh to new folks. There was still a fair bit of drama when I joined (6 years ago!) but I think I was on the tail end of seeing that. 
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    Thanks @mrsconn23 for digging that back up!  WonderWife/Cinn really knew how to tell a story.

    When I first joined the Knot back in 2005 or so, I was so scared to peek into WW because it was a tough board.  I dipped my toes in a few times and then lurked for the longest time.  I soon found that those ladies were tough but also very loyal and supportive.  Seems like lots of drama back in the day!
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    VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    I really can't remember WW having drama on the board itself.  It was usually beebee's trashing us other places b/c we were mean.  I joined in 2006ish and I think I wandered my way into WW pretty quickly, though I think i'm on profile name 4 or so.

    Oh, I do remember one.  There'd been a popoff between 2 Knotties b/c Knottie 1 used verbiage that made Knottie 2 uncomfortable b/c of a personal situation.  Then later, another person made (unrelated) a profile that everyone knew the PW for and could log into and say whatever shit they wanted, safely.  IIRC, someone got into the fake profile and made a snarky comment about the Knottie 2's feelings.  Things got heated until someone smart logged into the fake profile and changed the PW on it, so no one could do that anymore.  Usually any pop-offs are mainly funny.
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    My TK journey, lol.  I first came to TK about 7 years ago.

    I never went to the NEY board, because I was already engaged when I found TK.  It was only much later I'd heard that it wasn't so much a board for the actual NEY, but more a cliquey tight-knit group that didn't like newcomers.

    I mostly visited Etiquette and Snarky Brides.  Back then, I wasn't on WW too much.  At some point, which was around when I got married anyway (6 months after joining)...as much as I had enjoyed it...the Etiquette board and forums in general started feeling too repetitious.  So many similar situations in new posts with similar answers.  I checked occasionally, but wasn't on TK much for about 6 months.  But then I started coming back more frequently.  That was also when things started dying down, so I gravitated more to where the "action" was.  WW and the Chit-Chat board.  I don't think I'd even noticed the Chit-Chat board until after I came back.
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    VarunaTT said:
    I really can't remember WW having drama on the board itself.  It was usually beebee's trashing us other places b/c we were mean.  I joined in 2006ish and I think I wandered my way into WW pretty quickly, though I think i'm on profile name 4 or so.

    Oh, I do remember one.  There'd been a popoff between 2 Knotties b/c Knottie 1 used verbiage that made Knottie 2 uncomfortable b/c of a personal situation.  Then later, another person made (unrelated) a profile that everyone knew the PW for and could log into and say whatever shit they wanted, safely.  IIRC, someone got into the fake profile and made a snarky comment about the Knottie 2's feelings.  Things got heated until someone smart logged into the fake profile and changed the PW on it, so no one could do that anymore.  Usually any pop-offs are mainly funny.

    dang box!

    Yes, not much drama between members but all the beebees and pop offs.
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    FYI I was on NEY before coming here - since I was NEY - and like @short+sassy  said, they were a group and tbh they really never accepted me. Often mocked me.

    Actually .... one former member has come to this board to call me out on something.

    There was some brief drama between NEY and WW for a bit because someone {i don't remember who but I believe they were a reg here at the time} They said something snarky about NEY, etc etc unnecessary drama.
    I moved here when I realized there was a better group and people started fading out there.
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    I'm horrible with remembering people's user names.  I remember a scandal where a regular user who was sometimes really volatile, turned out to be a catfish/troll.

    Then there was someone else who had a pic of Scarlett O'Hara in the red dress as part of her signature pic.  She was a SUPER regular and had great posts.  And then she completely disappeared one day.  No one mentioned her either, until months later.  The forum was abuzz about the catfish from my first paragraph and someone posted something like, "I guess you never know.  Remember (username, referencing the Scarlett user)?"  I remember hoping to hear the story, but there wasn't anything else, lol.

    I also remember a couple incidents where people were looked up IRL and there was some online harassment.

    And I'm sure another few dozen stories I'm forgetting, lol.
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    I'm horrible with remembering people's user names.  I remember a scandal where a regular user who was sometimes really volatile, turned out to be a catfish/troll.

    Then there was someone else who had a pic of Scarlett O'Hara in the red dress as part of her signature pic.  She was a SUPER regular and had great posts.  And then she completely disappeared one day.  No one mentioned her either, until months later.  The forum was abuzz about the catfish from my first paragraph and someone posted something like, "I guess you never know.  Remember (username, referencing the Scarlett user)?"  I remember hoping to hear the story, but there wasn't anything else, lol.

    I also remember a couple incidents where people were looked up IRL and there was some online harassment.

    And I'm sure another few dozen stories I'm forgetting, lol.
    His Girl Friday! 
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    I only kind of vaguely remember what you're talking about and again, it's been long enough some of this is just the mythos of the Knot.  :smiley:

    I never wandered off WW after I landed here. 
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    @banana468, yes!!!  That was the username!  Thanks for the reminder.  They posted all the time, multiple times a day.  And then it suddenly stopped one day and they never posted again.  I was curious at the time what had happened, but didn't want to be nosy, in case it was personal things going on.

    The other boards were "mostly" friendly and you got to know the regulars, at least as far as their writing style and opinions on wedding-related things.  But it wasn't the more personal day-to-day stuff like "hey, how did that interview go", that's in the WW board.
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    levioosa said:
    I believe the catfish was Vulgargirl. Who previously had another name I can’t remember. The catfish had a turkey baster story involved. 
    Yes, again!  That's exactly who I'm remembering.  I think the original turkey baster story post from Vulgargirl was before my time, but that was what some people were talking about as the first time they started to become suspicious that this was a persona someone had made up.  People were talking about other inconsistencies also.  I vaguely remember something about where they said they lived (I think AZ?) not jiving with other things they'd said.

    There was also some conflict because Vulgargirl had supporters. who thought this person was unfairly kicked off.  Some of the mods who were also regulars, understandably didn't go into too much detail, but verified It had been investigated thoroughly and Vulgargirl was breaching TOS by opening multiple accounts.
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    levioosa said:
    I believe the catfish was Vulgargirl. Who previously had another name I can’t remember. The catfish had a turkey baster story involved. 
    I remember that one too! Craziness. I started on the Knot almost  6 years ago when it became apparent DD was going to get married. I followed a lot of the boards - Etiquette, Receptions .Chit Chat etc. I still check in on those but come here daily. I lurked here for a while before posting though. I often think of posters who aren't here any longer.
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    levioosa said:
    I believe the catfish was Vulgargirl. Who previously had another name I can’t remember. The catfish had a turkey baster story involved. 
    I remember that one too! Craziness. I started on the Knot almost  6 years ago when it became apparent DD was going to get married. I followed a lot of the boards - Etiquette, Receptions .Chit Chat etc. I still check in on those but come here daily. I lurked here for a while before posting though. I often think of posters who aren't here any longer.
    Me too! Like Heffalump and ShesSoCold and Barbie. They were all regulars here for a while! 
    I keep wondering about ShesSoCold. She was moving away just as I was becoming more active. I wonder if she moved to (where? Montana?) and loves it. 

    I remember the reg with the turkey baster, but I can't remember any names from back then. Maybe something with WoW?  I vaguely remember Chad being outed. Wasn't there something where it was confirmed on an offboard?
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    This is so much fun to read!  A lot of this stuff is before my time.  I think I joined eight years ago ... mostly on Etiquette, then Snarky Brides, and then eventually here.  I agree with the Etiquette board getting really repetitive, so I used to check that one often and then petered off when nothing seemed new.

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    levioosa said:
    I believe the catfish was Vulgargirl. Who previously had another name I can’t remember. The catfish had a turkey baster story involved. 
    Yes, again!  That's exactly who I'm remembering.  I think the original turkey baster story post from Vulgargirl was before my time, but that was what some people were talking about as the first time they started to become suspicious that this was a persona someone had made up.  People were talking about other inconsistencies also.  I vaguely remember something about where they said they lived (I think AZ?) not jiving with other things they'd said.

    There was also some conflict because Vulgargirl had supporters. who thought this person was unfairly kicked off.  Some of the mods who were also regulars, understandably didn't go into too much detail, but verified It had been investigated thoroughly and Vulgargirl was breaching TOS by opening multiple accounts.

    Wasn't this the poster who was trying to get pregnant with her wife, but turns out she wasn't married, or gay, or anything?  I feel like she had a few screen names over her time, but she was here for a long time before that, and if I remember it all are out and went downhill in about 2 days.  

    HisGirlFriday, I never did get the story on that poster, but another one who had a huge blowout one day and stormed off and never came back.  Or at least not with that name.

    And of course, there was always "she who shall not be named" (I do know the name, but won't say it in case she sees the Bat Signal), but who used to spam hundreds of boards about the church wedding in a park that she wasn't invited to.  I still think she was on the spectrum for sure, based on the way she posted.  

    I've been here for 2 mass exoduses to Proboards, or wherever everyone ended up.  The first one, I didn't know anyone sell enough to follow, but I posted a bit with the second one, but like here, couldn't keep up with the daily posts.  Now I'm here mostly to ready Prudy posts, so thanks to everyone who posts those.  :)

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    levioosa said:
    I believe the catfish was Vulgargirl. Who previously had another name I can’t remember. The catfish had a turkey baster story involved. 
    Yes, again!  That's exactly who I'm remembering.  I think the original turkey baster story post from Vulgargirl was before my time, but that was what some people were talking about as the first time they started to become suspicious that this was a persona someone had made up.  People were talking about other inconsistencies also.  I vaguely remember something about where they said they lived (I think AZ?) not jiving with other things they'd said.

    There was also some conflict because Vulgargirl had supporters. who thought this person was unfairly kicked off.  Some of the mods who were also regulars, understandably didn't go into too much detail, but verified It had been investigated thoroughly and Vulgargirl was breaching TOS by opening multiple accounts.

    Wasn't this the poster who was trying to get pregnant with her wife, but turns out she wasn't married, or gay, or anything?  I feel like she had a few screen names over her time, but she was here for a long time before that, and if I remember it all are out and went downhill in about 2 days.  

    HisGirlFriday, I never did get the story on that poster, but another one who had a huge blowout one day and stormed off and never came back.  Or at least not with that name.

    And of course, there was always "she who shall not be named" (I do know the name, but won't say it in case she sees the Bat Signal), but who used to spam hundreds of boards about the church wedding in a park that she wasn't invited to.  I still think she was on the spectrum for sure, based on the way she posted.  

    I've been here for 2 mass exoduses to Proboards, or wherever everyone ended up.  The first one, I didn't know anyone sell enough to follow, but I posted a bit with the second one, but like here, couldn't keep up with the daily posts.  Now I'm here mostly to ready Prudy posts, so thanks to everyone who posts those.  :)
    At first I thought you were talking about the PPD poster when you said she who must not be named. Lol


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    MagicInk (aka Vulgargirl) - she was the girl with the turkey baster who magically got her wife pregnant right after another Knottie (Lolo###s - can't remember exactly). Anything Lolo did, MagicInk did shortly thereafter. She finally got kicked off the Knot and then out of the blue this other girl who'd been gone for awhile came back and the whole catfishing scheme came to light and it was one person creating all these identities. MagicInk had a LOT of support until her character went off the rails completely. 

    I miss ShesSoCold. And I'd LOVE to know who exactly HerGirlFriday was because I had totally forgotten about her dramatic exit. 
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    kvrunskvruns member
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    I love the trip down memory lane. I always forget stories/posts/people until others bring it up. 

    I remember MagicInk/Vulgar and that story though I can't remember HisGirlFriday or what that was about. Are you guys saying that person was likely also the same catfish person? 
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    I remember ShesSoCold and I bumped heads a lot at the beginning, but we chatted it out in the PM's and were cool. It was mostly misunderstanding stuff.

    Tbh I think the drama between WW and NEY may have been part started by Heffalump? {obv not calling anyone out, the name just sounds familiar - she may have just been on the thread}
    Oh that was drama .... 

    Does anyone remember that? Might have been like 3yrs ago though ...
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