Wedding Woes

You're still terrible, so you haven't given Brenda a reason to like you.

Dear Prudence,

I and my wife have a toddler, and my wife wants our toddler to call her close friends “aunts” and “uncles.” We both have siblings already, and I think close friends should just be called by their first names because they’re not actually family. I specifically do not want her friend Brenda to be an aunt.

When my wife and I first got together, I admit I did not treat her the way she should have been treated. The thing she always talks about is when she wanted to take a community college course in my field to “connect” with me, and I told her that it was a silly idea because she wouldn’t understand what I do in enough depth to talk about it with me. She’s not stupid, but my field is scientific and that’s not her strength. There’s other things she brings up too, like when I didn’t intervene when our mutual friend made her uncomfortable and how I always had to be right. I went to therapy and I’m better now.

Brenda and my wife are very close. My wife has low contact with her parents, and when my wife graduated from college, Brenda helped her adjust to the adult world. She helped her job search and was basically a mentor to her. Brenda cannot get over how I treated my wife at the beginning of our relationship, and even though my wife forgave me, Brenda never did. Every dinner with her that my wife makes me go to is full of unnecessary tension and not enjoyable at all. I know Brenda and my wife are good friends, but I don’t want her to be an aunt to my child. She hates me, and it feels like my wife isn’t taking my feelings into consideration. I told her that I didn’t want any of our friends to be “aunts” or “uncles,” especially Brenda. Am I being fair?

— She’s Not an Aunt

Re: You're still terrible, so you haven't given Brenda a reason to like you.

  • You need to be clear with the WHY you feel this way and then you need to listen to your wife and THEN you need to come to an agreement together. 

    Also, you aren't better now.  You're defensive and not in charge.  You're half of a couple here and need to come to a better understanding vs. issuing decrees as if your scientific degree is also making you Supreme Marriage Decision Maker.


  • No, you’re a douchebag. I’m glad your wife has someone like Brenda in her corner instead of just you, the person who has belittled her, insulted her intelligence, and brushed off her boundaries. You suck.

    Oh, and she hasn’t forgiven you if she’s “always” bringing these things up. You acted like an unmitigated ass and it doesn’t sound like you truly regret it. You went to therapy, so free pass for all the shit you did, right? No wonder Brenda doesn’t like you. 


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  • Taking the relationship between Brenda and LW aside, I fail to see the big deal? I called a few of my parents’ close friends “aunts” and “uncles” growing up knowing damn well they weren’t related. I was also an “aunt” to my bff’s daughter when she was little too.  Guess what? I’m doing fine.  She’s doing fine. Everything’s good. 

  • I don't have siblings, but I have like 3 female friends that are my bff's and would encourage BK to call them aunts {if she doesn't whatever} because I feel they are close enough to be family.

    LW made me cringe on the school situation - who t.f are you to say your spouse isn't smart enough for anything?

    LW is a douche.
  • Yes, YTA. Oh that wasn’t the question. 

    Sounds like Brenda (and your wife) have a lot of reasons to dislike you and it doesn’t sound like you’re doing much to help the situation. This seems less of a situation where you don’t want anyone called aunts/uncles are more so like you want to be in control of something you’re not. Which tells me you’re no where close to better. 
  • Taking the relationship between Brenda and LW aside, I fail to see the big deal? I called a few of my parents’ close friends “aunts” and “uncles” growing up knowing damn well they weren’t related. I was also an “aunt” to my bff’s daughter when she was little too.  Guess what? I’m doing fine.  She’s doing fine. Everything’s good. 
    I feel like I want to know more about the details here.  We had a few close friends that were aunts and uncles to us as kids.  Then there were the friends and they were called by first names or with an appropriate title. 

    Is the deal that the wife is an only child and these friends are close to her?  Is there an alternate that could work so they have a special name like "Miss Brenda"?  

  • Who hasn't been this Brenda? "My BFF is with a terrible jerk. He treats her like crap, constantly belittles her, and tries to separate her from her friends and family. She makes comments that let on that she's totally miserable, but she says she wants to stay with him. They even just had a child. He knows that I see through his fake "therapy and all better" claims and is incredibly rude to me and causes friction any time friend and I hang out and he's around."

    LW, just do the world a favor and go play in traffic. 
  • LW sucks.  I also think calling friends "aunt" and "uncle" is weird and I dont' 'like it.  But if H did or didn't care, then it is what it is. That's not the real issue here. 
  • Casadena said:
    LW sucks.  I also think calling friends "aunt" and "uncle" is weird and I dont' 'like it.  But if H did or didn't care, then it is what it is. That's not the real issue here. 
    Same. My best friend does this and whatever it’s weird but okay. 
  • I can't imagine caring if "aunt" or "uncle" is thrown in front of friend's names.  It's not that serious.  But wow LW is one of the biggest a**holes in the world.
  • I didn't grow up calling any family friends "aunt/uncle", so I also find it a little weird.  But NBD at all if that is what other people like and certainly not a hill to die on.

    The LW also needs to get over their animosity toward Brenda.  Brenda may not like them, but she has been an amazing friend to their wife and the LW needs to keep that in mind.

    They also need to count their lucky stars...multiple times...that their spouse stayed with them and even married them.  Let me tell ya, if I'd told someone I was in a relationship with that I wanted to take a community college class to better understand the kind of work they did...and their response was to pat me on the head and tell me not to bother because I wouldn't understand it...I'd be backing out of that relationship so fast the only thing they'd see would be skidding tire marks.
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  • I'll be the lone weirdo who called my parents' close friends aunt/uncle, and is aunt to kids I'm not actually related to. There also might be a regional thing; H grew up calling basically everyone aunt, even his step-mother. 

    I'm a huge fan of the notion that family is who you choose, not who DNA chooses for you. LW says that wife has limited contact with family, so not really surprising that she wants her close friends to fill those aunt/uncle roles for kid. Odd for some, but I just can't see why LW has such an issue with it (except just being embarrassed to be around Brenda on account of being a huge ass.) 
  • I think the aunt and uncle thing may be a trend among millennial New Englanders. My daughter and SIL and their friends have their kids do this for certain close friends. But mostly, they just use their first names. 

    And it's a cultural practice among the Chinese. When I was teaching Sunday school at a big multicultural church in Massachusetts, most of the Chinese kids called me "Auntie." It was a term of respect.

    Finally, LW is a pompous, supercilious, superior ass.
  • I have so many people I wasn't related to that were aunts, uncle, or even grandparents.  My mom used to clean for older people, and because she couldn't afford childcare we would come along.  I have some very cherished memories of these people, and one of them I consider more of a grandparent than a few of the ones I was related to.  I've also had friends have their kids call me aunt.  I don't think it's weird, but that is my experience.
    this is important to LW's wife, and her friend is important to her.  Make a bloody effort, come on!  Is this really a hill to die on?  

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