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Wedding Woes

Show her what it's like, then re-discus

I have a low-stakes problem. My girlfriend and I recently moved in together and decided that we would take turns cooking and cleaning up. If I cook, she cleans up after dinner and vice versa. This seemed like it’d be a fair division of labor, however, we have different cooking styles. I am a “clean as you go” cook. I empty the dishwasher before I start and then put measuring cups and mixing bowls in the dishwasher when I am done with them and clean pots and pans if I get done with them before the meal is done. This means there are really only the serving dishes, dishes we ate on, and maybe a pot and pan to clean up after.

When my girlfriend cooks, it looks like an explosion happened in the kitchen. She never cleans up anything and there are dirty dishes piled in the sink and on the counter. When she cooks, it takes me forever to clean the kitchen. I asked her if she could clean up as she went and she said that is not how she cooks. I told her that I didn’t think it was fair for me to have to do double the cleaning that she does and her solution was for me to not clean up as I go. But then the kitchen is a cluttered mess when I am cooking and it feels overwhelming to me. My compromise was that we clean up together or we each cook and clean up our own messes after, but she said she liked it the way it was and it was working for her. Am I being unreasonable on this? Is it a red flag that she dismissed my discomfort so flippantly?

—Clean Chef

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Re: Show her what it's like, then re-discus

  • edited November 2022
    This is very much N and I. I clean as I go, and he does not. Honestly, it's really not something that bothers me. I prefer and understanding needing clean spaces to work with when cooking and I understand that N is not the same way. I truly don't think this is something to be that upset over. Maybe it's because I'm older and a tiny bit wiser. Maybe it's because my ex husband was a fucking nightmare and expected a fucking parade whenever he made so much as a bowl of soup for us. But I'm happy that my partner is someone who will gladly cook for us anytime, and I recognize that his strengths in other areas far outweighs him being a messy cook. 
  • This is M & I!

    M does more elaborate stuff and is not a clean-as-you-go person. So if he does those big deal meals, I make him clean.
    Our entire kitchen will get taken up by stuff and I'm not dealing.
  • banana468 said:
    Honestly, I think it may be something you have to live with unless this is indicative of other ways that things are produced.  

    FWIW, my cooking was more elaborate when I could make more elaborate meals.  Now that's just not a luxury so there aren't a lot of things to clean up because you only dirty so many things when you're trying to get dinner on the table in a hurry.  

    ETA - LW, look at what your meals are.  Are you cleaning as you go but making less complicated dishes?  If I'm making multiple pans/pan sauces then I may not be able to have the time to clean as I go.   Then I call DH to get me some sink space so I can keep up the cooking cyclone. 
    I was wondering about this also!  I don't clean as I go.  But I also make pretty simple dishes and my kitchen looks like how the LW describes theirs, after they have cooked.  The plates and utensils used.  One pot or pan.  Not usually both, lol.

    The serving dish? That would be the above-mentioned pot or pan, lol.

    However, I do find it concerning that the g/f has an attitude of "I like it the way it is and it's was working for me".  No s**t it's working for her.  But it isn't for the LW.  That was the whole purpose of them making other suggestions.

    If a mess stresses them out, maybe put everything in the sink instead of cleaning as they go.  If the g/f has to actually experience what the LW does, they might understand better what the LW is saying.
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  • I'm the clean cook; H is the messy one. Our solution is LW's suggestion. We take turns cooking and we clean up on our own nights. 

    I think LW ought to push for the more balanced trade off, since it is bothering them enough to feel like chores are unfair. It may be low stakes, but these kinds of things build up over time. 
  • Honestly- you’re both wrong. She should have listened that you’re feeling unhappy with the arrangement but also you can’t really tell her how to cook and clean. 
  • Little thing that's going to become a big thing and IMO a long-term big thing that'll become a dealbreaker issue...  GF doesn't clean up after herself in the kitchen, PERIOD, LW said they're doing double-duty cleaning when they cook and cleaning up after she cooks, as-in can't be bothered to load the dishwasher after she's done.  It works for her because she's not adulting and LW is doing it for her!  It'd be one thing if there was a meet in the middle compromise "you wash I'll dry, I'll wash you dry", but that's clearly not the case, nor is she cleaning the rest of the mess up in the kitchen per what LW wrote...  

    If y'all don't have similar housekeeping styles/expectations, it's a little thing that's a sign of bigger things that are out of whack...
  • MesmrEwe said:
    Little thing that's going to become a big thing and IMO a long-term big thing that'll become a dealbreaker issue...  GF doesn't clean up after herself in the kitchen, PERIOD, LW said they're doing double-duty cleaning when they cook and cleaning up after she cooks, as-in can't be bothered to load the dishwasher after she's done.  It works for her because she's not adulting and LW is doing it for her!  It'd be one thing if there was a meet in the middle compromise "you wash I'll dry, I'll wash you dry", but that's clearly not the case, nor is she cleaning the rest of the mess up in the kitchen per what LW wrote...  

    If y'all don't have similar housekeeping styles/expectations, it's a little thing that's a sign of bigger things that are out of whack...
    She’s cleaning up after he cooks so it’s not that she’s not adulting- it’s that he’s cranky about a perceived difference in how much cleaning is needed after he cooks v when she cooks. 
  • Having a SO that cooks would tickle me pink, I wouldn’t even care!

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