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Wedding Woes

Yes, you need to find a way to talk about this again.

Dear Prudence,

I’ve been together with my husband “Dan” for eight years, married for almost five. We have what I think is a pretty great relationship—we love each other very much, and have a lot of fun together, but aren’t co-dependent on each other. We both have social lives outside of each other, and we both have good relationships with our families. Recently, I made a sarcastic comment about people who post on social media about how their significant other is basically the center of/most important person in their lives (I was scrolling on Instagram and saw a post like that). Dan was quiet for a minute, then said, in a way that sounded genuinely bummed, “So I’m not the most important person in your life?” I could tell he was upset, but, I didn’t really know what to say, so I said, “Well you’re definitely in the top three!” He laughed a little and said, “Glad I know where I stand,” but didn’t press it anymore, though, it still seemed to bother him.

It’s been several days, and he seems fine now and hasn’t brought it up, but I’m afraid he might, and I still don’t know how to respond. I just don’t believe in one person being the most important person in my life. That undermines the other people who’ve played, and continue to play, significant roles in my life in different respects. As I mentioned in the beginning, Dan has solid relationships with other people outside of me, so it’s not like I’m the sole person in his life he can rely on. I can’t really put the cat back in the bag and lie, so, if he broaches this again, how do I say this in a way that won’t hurt his feelings, and make him understand that he is very important to me?

—Woman of Many Moons

Re: Yes, you need to find a way to talk about this again.

  • Exactly @banana468.  

    If I told DH something like that and I wasn't joking, he would be really, really hurt.  We have built an entire life together. If we're not each other's #1, none of this works. 

    Your life partnership should transcend your other relationships. Many decisions you make have a direct impact on your partner, financially, emotionally, and everything in between.  

    Yes, this is even if you have kids.  Because kids are going to grow up and become independent of you and should eventually live a life and make decisions that have nothing to do with you.  You will grow past being parents who need to be involved day-to-day. 

    Having strong friendships and relationships outside of your partnership is important.  But those people aren't in your home every day, sleeping in your bed, paying your bills, making decisions that will directly impact your life, and so on and so forth.  And you're not doing that for your friends/parents/grown kids/etc. 

    LW needs to figure out why they feel the way they do and why they are putting their partner on the same level as the relationships that exist outside of it when it is simply not the same. 
  • I would divorce someone who told me this. 
  • banana468 said:
    I may be in the minority but I don't see how you can be married to someone, actively monogamous and your partner isn't the most important person.  It doesn't mean that others won't be and that at times other needs aren't pressing, but I would be absolutely devastated if DH told me I was in the top 3.

    DH being the most important person is kind of paramount to me. If we weren't each other's #1 then I'd question how we make financial decisions together and plan a lifetime. 

    So...I kind of think the LW is a bit of a jerk.  You can have an active social life but your social life shouldn't be before your life partner. 
    100% this. I truly don't understand her logic. Of course I have significant people in my life that I would do anything for if they need me (parents, brother, SIL, nephew, best friend, N's kids), but N is still absolutely my most important person. 
  • I can't stop thinking about this letter.  Since LW brings up that they threw off this comment after scrolling IG, I'm wondering if this is a symptom of the social media culture of people supposedly 'putting it all out there' and also how 'therapy speak' has become everyday vernacular for some people.  

    Yes, being independent is important.  Knowing you can take care of yourself and that you have a good support system when shit hits the fan with any sort of tragedy (divorce, death, sudden financial insecurity, etc.) is also the way a fully realized person should handle their life. 

    But at the end of the day, when you have a partner that you commit yourself to legally (not just marriage, but buying a home together or other massive financial expenditures...since if you both sign on the line, you're both tied to it) and start intertwining your lives together, they should be your number 1 person.

    FFS you chose each other and said, "this is the person I want to spend every day with." You don't do that with your friends.  You just...don't. 
  • mrsconn23 said:
    Exactly @banana468.  

    If I told DH something like that and I wasn't joking, he would be really, really hurt.  We have built an entire life together. If we're not each other's #1, none of this works. 

    Your life partnership should transcend your other relationships. Many decisions you make have a direct impact on your partner, financially, emotionally, and everything in between.  

    Yes, this is even if you have kids.  Because kids are going to grow up and become independent of you and should eventually live a life and make decisions that have nothing to do with you.  You will grow past being parents who need to be involved day-to-day. 

    Having strong friendships and relationships outside of your partnership is important.  But those people aren't in your home every day, sleeping in your bed, paying your bills, making decisions that will directly impact your life, and so on and so forth.  And you're not doing that for your friends/parents/grown kids/etc. 

    LW needs to figure out why they feel the way they do and why they are putting their partner on the same level as the relationships that exist outside of it when it is simply not the same. 
    Exactly.

    For example over the summer I spent the nights in the hospital with Chiquita.  She was the priority and I needed to be there for her - but it didn't mean that DH was less important.  It was that our child and her need for a parent to be by her side were pressing.  When my dad broke his hip I left to see him because his needs were important.

    But at night when all things are fine the kids go to bed before us not just because they need more sleep but because the two of us need OUR time.  And we're going to prioritize the needs of the marriage over the desires of the children.  
  • One of the (many, many) reasons that I knew I had to file for divorce was that stbxh was no longer the #1 person in my life and hadn't been for some time (and I wasn't his).  Being the top person in a fellow adult's life is a special feeling and I'd feel awful if I was LW's spouse.
  • If you’re in a serious monogamous relationship and you’re sharing a life (house, finances, kids) that’s a different level of relationship than friends, parents, siblings, kids- or at least should be. If you’re not making the big life decisions together (bills, health, life plans) then maybe it doesn’t matter but I’d be hurt if the person I was sharing all those things with didn’t distinguish between me and the other people they are close with. 

    That said- I don’t feel the need to put that all over social media and frankly H would be weirded out if I did. But if I actually said and felt he wasn’t the person of course he would be (and I would be in the reverse!) 

    they need to talk again but I think LW also needs to spend some time thinking if they really feel this way (that their H is in the top three) or if that’s something they feel they should say/feel to maintain a feeling of independence. 
  • I understand a lot of what the LW is saying.  But my goodness that was a big screw up explaining it to their husband.

    I read the initial comment made as more talking about the danger of making only one person the entire center of your world, to where there isn't much else going on in a person's life.  I totally agree with the LW on that.

    My feelings on it are that someone's SO should be the #1 person in their life...overall.  But sometimes they temporarily won't be.  Like some of you all mentioned, sometimes friends or family or kids need to be the priority.

    I initially read "top 3" as them saying it as a joke.  But then they were doubling down on it.  Do they mean that more like how I described in my previous paragraph?  Or do they really feel that their H isn't their #1 person most of the time?

    If they are ready to say something like "I'm sorry I didn't explain myself well.  You ARE the most important person in my life, but there are going to be times where I'll need to prioritize my parents/child/BFF/etc."  Then I think they should bring it up to their H and explain better.

    But anything less than that, they need to drop it.  Because they are just going to hurt their H more if they start waffling and talking about other people and why those relationships are as or more important than theirs.
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  • If you’re in a serious monogamous relationship and you’re sharing a life (house, finances, kids) that’s a different level of relationship than friends, parents, siblings, kids- or at least should be. If you’re not making the big life decisions together (bills, health, life plans) then maybe it doesn’t matter but I’d be hurt if the person I was sharing all those things with didn’t distinguish between me and the other people they are close with. 

    That said- I don’t feel the need to put that all over social media and frankly H would be weirded out if I did. But if I actually said and felt he wasn’t the person of course he would be (and I would be in the reverse!) 

    they need to talk again but I think LW also needs to spend some time thinking if they really feel this way (that their H is in the top three) or if that’s something they feel they should say/feel to maintain a feeling of independence. 
    This is where I am too. In the beginning of the letter I thought LW was just reacting to the sappy IG post and top 3 was a joke that didn't land well. But the second paragraph seems to go the other way. 

    I'm not sure LW really knows what she feels here, but she owes it to herself and to Dan to figure it out and be honest about it. 
  • ei34 said:
    One of the (many, many) reasons that I knew I had to file for divorce was that stbxh was no longer the #1 person in my life and hadn't been for some time (and I wasn't his).  Being the top person in a fellow adult's life is a special feeling and I'd feel awful if I was LW's spouse.
    Yup, same here. And it smacked me right in the face when I was sick with a 103 fever and he refused to drive me to the doctor.  
  • mrsconn23 said:
    I can't stop thinking about this letter.  Since LW brings up that they threw off this comment after scrolling IG, I'm wondering if this is a symptom of the social media culture of people supposedly 'putting it all out there' and also how 'therapy speak' has become everyday vernacular for some people.  

    Yes, being independent is important.  Knowing you can take care of yourself and that you have a good support system when shit hits the fan with any sort of tragedy (divorce, death, sudden financial insecurity, etc.) is also the way a fully realized person should handle their life. 

    But at the end of the day, when you have a partner that you commit yourself to legally (not just marriage, but buying a home together or other massive financial expenditures...since if you both sign on the line, you're both tied to it) and start intertwining your lives together, they should be your number 1 person.

    FFS you chose each other and said, "this is the person I want to spend every day with." You don't do that with your friends.  You just...don't. 
    Yeah - this one hit me hard in that....I just can't imagine going through some of the things in the last year where DH WASN'T my #1.  And with what we went through I was on the phone with him or talking to him all the time.  I  needed him to know what I was thinking.   He's my person.  I'm his person.  
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