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Extreme overreaction much?

Dear Prudence,

My husband “Mark” and I took our 5-year-old son, “Giacomo,” trick or treating for the first time last year (we opted not to prior to that because of COVID), but we realized pretty quickly that due to minimal streetlights, it didn’t feel super safe. Since there are still a lot of families on the street, this year, some other concerned neighbors and I decided to plan an afternoon trunk-or-treat for the weekend before Halloween. We advertised it throughout the neighborhood and on Next Door and were thrilled to get such a positive response from other families who wanted to join!

Unfortunately, I’m still processing how it actually turned out—all because of one family’s behavior.

While most of the groups participating had fully decorated trunks and were engaged with all the kids coming by, this family opted to turn it into more of a tailgate than a trunk-or-treat. While they did have a bowl of candy on a table out on the sidewalk for kids to take from, they spent most of the time ignoring the event in favor of grilling, playing music (which wasn’t even Halloween themed), and having a party, which included alcohol! While no one appeared outwardly intoxicated, we were shocked that the group was drinking beer and what I believe were hard seltzers in the middle of the day during an event for children.

We were distressed—Mark’s uncle was an alcoholic, which led him to be a lifelong teetotaler. He is highly aware of how triggering alcohol could be to someone with his family history and stays away from it as much as possible, which I respect. We planned for him to walk around with Giacomo while I handed out candy, but when we realized what was going on, he told me it was too upsetting for him and that he needed to leave completely. Since he was gone, Giacomo walked around with another family we are close with while I handed out candy.
While he seemed to have a good time, it was upsetting to me that after so much planning I couldn’t be with him to experience his first real Halloween.

My issue is this: Is it common for people to do this at these events? The other neighbors and I didn’t even think to mention it while advertising it, so while we didn’t explicitly say it was an alcohol-free event, I feel like they owe us an apology since we couldn’t participate fully as a family. I’m also concerned that they would just repeat this behavior next year even if told not to, so is it out of line to ask them not to participate at all? We don’t want to create animosity, but I also want to make the expectations for the event clear so everyone knows it’s not an opportunity to party. How should I proceed?

Re: Extreme overreaction much?

  • But how many halloween songs ARE there?

  • Listen, just because they were the only ones with obvious drinks doesn't mean they were the only ones drinking. They weren't loud, they weren't rowdy, they came and enjoyed an event. If Uncle's alcohol use was so bad H is traumatized and can't event walk past it, that's a issue for therapy. 


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  • I can't say I've ever heard of people tailgating at a trunk-or-treat before, but given that they weren't being rowdy and don't seem to have ruined the event in any way, I think you're being kind of unreasonable. If you really want to keep the trunk-or-treat alcohol-free in the future, you should include a general reminder in the event annoucement/invite going forward. Don't target anyone specific.

    As for Mark, I understand why he's a teetotaler and why he's uncomfortable with alcohol, but if he's getting so triggered by the mere presence of alcohol that he has to leave an event entirely, that's a problem. He needs to get professional help in coping better.


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  • I like the sound of those friends and they sound way more fun than the LW.

    I'll be honest: this was the first Halloween I can recall that involved hanging out with a group where I wasn't having an AB and that's because I had to drive to pick up Chiquita later.   Unclench LW. 
  • But how many halloween songs ARE there?
    Not a ton of good ones, but enough that I have a party playlist (not kid appropriate though). I also have a whole Halloween playlist of just spooky vibe songs with a good beat for workouts in October lol


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  • CasadenaCasadena member
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    what i can't figure out is was this event at a parking lot? did they just hang in their own driveways, decorate, and go door to door? That's how I read it based on the location of the candy table "on the sidewalk". And even more so if they were at their own home, it's absolutely bat-shit to worry about how people are enjoying their community hang afternoon in their own driveways. 
  • banana468banana468 member
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    Also, how does this guy deal with other social events?  I just went to a soccer banquet on Tuesday night and there was a cash bar available.   Weddings, company holiday parties, funerals, just going out to dinner, there's a way to be a teetotaler without also running away from it.   
  • VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    She wasn't going to experience Halloween with the kid anyway, since the original plan was he was walking around with his dad while she handed out candy?

    Honestly, I get it.  As a sober person, there is so.much.goddamn.alcohol.in. every.single.damn.event. even when it's not at a bar.  As someone who just dreamed last night that I relapsed and woke up upset, I get why he was triggered.  It's not just the drink (though I've discovered I now have a physical/emotional reaction to smelling booze on people), it's the memories surrounding the drink and what it does to people.  Yes, he really does need to go to therapy to deal with some of it, but whhhhyyyyy does day drinking at a kid's trick or treat event even have to happen?  You really can't just not do that?  Drinking culture is gross, but parenting drinking culture still blows my mind.

    Having said all of that, I don't think she's in a position to say anything or even control the event itself, with something so casual.  But I'd probably be finding a different event to take the kiddo to, that's through an organization or someplace not in the neighborhood.  It's not less likely to happen, but they'd be less likely to interact with it.
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