In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-31?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:f9434da8-b9e6-471f-b066-de75954b5db8Post:cd3bbc46-834b-4e4e-8a35-fceffd048143">Re: FFF</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Yep, this. There are plenty of military guys who are NOT violent - they're protective. And as the wife of one, I can tell you first hand that the KPS poster doesn't have a freaking clue what they're talking about. I hope you never are in need of the protections afforded to our country by the military. Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]
Stella/Squirrly/TJ - That KPS had me fuming. What a stupid thing to say! Of the 27 months N served in Iraq, he had one encounter with violence. ONE. And it was because two of his guys had been taken hostage and HE was being shot at first. You can bet that he'd retaliate after something like that! Most of those 27 months he spent there involved him helping to defend the locals and doing community building type projects, not carrying out acts of violence left and right. That comment made my blood boil and I am offended.
And the person who submitted that secret must look down upon police officers as well, seeing as they have a similar job description. Ya know, protecting innocent people and all.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-31?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:f9434da8-b9e6-471f-b066-de75954b5db8Post:df56588e-0fb2-4b57-acb9-62b3dd5719a5">Re: FFF</a>: [QUOTE]I definitely think that "heaux" needs a permanent spot in my vocab. Posted by salt78[/QUOTE] Is it cajun?
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In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-31?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:f9434da8-b9e6-471f-b066-de75954b5db8Post:408b75cd-d3b9-4e37-9dd4-bc90dbd2e34a">Re: FFF</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Is it cajun? Posted by andy71781[/QUOTE]
<div>Oh! Maybe yes! I was thinking French. Either way, she's far more sophisticated than I ever gave her credit for.</div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-31?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:f9434da8-b9e6-471f-b066-de75954b5db8Post:1e354b00-f304-4488-981e-736406ab8329">Re: FFF</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : So do I. The insults are all about as childish as the other. Oh well. I have an ugly wedding dress and my husband needs viagra and you have a stupid diarrhea face. It's just the facts of life that we are going to need to except. Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]
stupid diarrhea face? that sounds familiar...didn't someone earlier say someone called them some sort of diarrhea? is this stuff being posted right on your TK wedding website? if stuff is being spelled correctly and full sentences i don't think it can be that chick from last night, but maybe someone is doing it for her.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-31?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:f9434da8-b9e6-471f-b066-de75954b5db8Post:aa81ff94-3060-4f0c-9ea7-ee7ba7f51595">Re: FFF</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Stella and Squirrly - That KPS had me fuming. What a stupid thing to say! Of the 27 months N served in Iraq, he had one encounter with violence. ONE. And it was because two of his guys had been taken hostage and HE was being shot at first. You can bet that he'd retaliate after something like that! Most of those 27 months he spent there involved him helping to defend the locals and doing community building type projects, not carrying out acts of violence left and right. That comment made my blood boil. Posted by ggmae[/QUOTE]
<div>I'm GLAD he retaliated. I hope to God my cousin has men like N watching out for him and willing to be "violent" to protect him.</div><div> </div><div>H is a retired Marine and I had NEVER heard of him acting violently in any way until he punched a guy in the face for convincing his 14 year old sister to meet him after dark (it was online and he claimed to be one of the Jonas brothers, WTF). I WAS SO PROUD, but he actually felt bad about it later, even if it was satisfying. It only makes me love him more.</div>
I just got home, but I flame the whole anti-niceness thing. Every time I see something along the lines of "Why should we be nice to people who have issues? Everyone has issues.. Are we supposed to be nice to everyone?!?!"
Uh..... Why not? It does nothing for me to be mean to other people. I honestly don't get it. It's one thing to clue in somebody who's being rude, but it baffles me that people find it so ridiculous to assume that everyone has issues and to treat them with respect. It's really not that hard.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-31?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:f9434da8-b9e6-471f-b066-de75954b5db8Post:c31ec6ad-50b1-446d-8bc6-c1b39c54b77d">Re: FFF</a>: [QUOTE]I just got home, but I flame the whole anti-niceness thing. Every time I see something along the lines of "Why should we be nice to people who have issues? Everyone has issues.. Are we supposed to be nice to everyone?!?!" Uh..... Why not? It does nothing for me to be mean to other people. I honestly don't get it. It's one thing to clue in somebody who's being rude, but it baffles me that people find it so ridiculous to assume that everyone has issues and to treat them with respect. It's really not that hard. Posted by polichik[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-31?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:f9434da8-b9e6-471f-b066-de75954b5db8Post:0fe25f67-07e1-4929-8327-220bff5ea8df">Re: FFF</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm GLAD he retaliated. I hope to God my cousin has men like N watching out for him and willing to be "violent" to protect him. H is a retired Marine and I had NEVER heard of him acting violently in any way until he punched a guy in the face for convincing his 14 year old sister to meet him after dark (it was online and he claimed to be one of the Jonas brothers, WTF). I WAS SO PROUD, but he actually felt bad about it later, even if it was satisfying. It only makes me love him more. Posted by stellabbella129[/QUOTE]
I'm glad too, because who knows what may have happened to him or his men had he just retreated. When people kidnap or blow-up your friends, retaliating is a pretty easy decision to make.
Most people look at N and would never guess that he was in the Army for 5 years. He's timid and quiet, and very calm and level-headed. That's what made him great when he served.
Poli - I agree 100%. It takes more effort to be rude to someone than it does to be kind, IMO.
I know that I am especially sensitive to the whole military thing now, obviously, but I REALLY don't remember feeling THAT differently before Buddy. Maybe I wouldn't have been as fast to jump to the military's defense previously, but seriously, some of the stuff people say is just astounding!
Ridiculous example: I live on a military base. Obviously, it's secure. Gates and guards and such. A few months ago, a car with two guys in it (turned out to be a stolen car running from police) turned onto the base. They didn't stop at the gate for ID check, just blew right through. The pop up barriers were not active yet (they are now), so the car zoomed into the base, past Security Forces at the gate and ignored all requests to stop.
They proceeded into the base, past the day care, past the shopping center - all the "community areas" - and headed onto the bridge - the link to the "active" area of the base - the flightline, the bomb dump, etc. They stopped briefly and security forces stepped out in front of the car to demand they exit the car. They not only didn't exit the car, they gunned it for the Airmen.
So they opened fire. There was a car accident, and at least the driver died - I think both might have.
In ALL the online news stories the next day - before NAMES WERE EVEN RELEASED (so no one knew anything about the men in the car) - all the comments were saying that the Security Forces airmen were racist, that they were violent morons, that they shouldn't be trusted with guns, that they should have asked if the people in the car spoke English before opening firing, that the base should be shut down, that the men who fired should be court martialed, that the military is a disgrace, and on and on and ON.
Sorry for the rant, I just CANNOT put myself in that mindset. At ALL.
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TJ, that's unbelievable. I cannot believe that (well, I can because some people are just so stupid), but I don't want to believe that things like that were said. Way to jump to gun and make asinine accusations!
In terms of being quick to jump the military's defense, I have always supported and appreciated our troops, but I am much more vocal about it these days because N served and because my brother is active.
To be honest I had a very negative view of the military prior to meeting Dh. When I lived overseas all of the American soldiers came off as being very scary and mean (I was also 9 which had to be part of it) and I thought they just liked to shoot people. When I was in high school I had a karate teacher who was a former Marine who was freaking nuts. Then I met Dh (former Marine) and a couple of his buddies and it completely turned my opinion around.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Yep, this. There are plenty of military guys who are NOT violent - they're protective. And as the wife of one, I can tell you first hand that the KPS poster doesn't have a freaking clue what they're talking about. I hope you never are in need of the protections afforded to our country by the military.
Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]
Stella/Squirrly/TJ - That KPS had me fuming. What a stupid thing to say! Of the 27 months N served in Iraq, he had one encounter with violence. ONE. And it was because two of his guys had been taken hostage and HE was being shot at first. You can bet that he'd retaliate after something like that! Most of those 27 months he spent there involved him helping to defend the locals and doing community building type projects, not carrying out acts of violence left and right. That comment made my blood boil and I am offended.
And the person who submitted that secret must look down upon police officers as well, seeing as they have a similar job description. Ya know, protecting innocent people and all.
[QUOTE]I definitely think that "heaux" needs a permanent spot in my vocab.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]
Is it cajun?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Is it cajun?
Posted by andy71781[/QUOTE]
<div>Oh! Maybe yes! I was thinking French. Either way, she's far more sophisticated than I ever gave her credit for.</div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : So do I. The insults are all about as childish as the other. Oh well. I have an ugly wedding dress and my husband needs viagra and you have a stupid diarrhea face. It's just the facts of life that we are going to need to except.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]
stupid diarrhea face? that sounds familiar...didn't someone earlier say someone called them some sort of diarrhea? is this stuff being posted right on your TK wedding website? if stuff is being spelled correctly and full sentences i don't think it can be that chick from last night, but maybe someone is doing it for her.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Stella and Squirrly - That KPS had me fuming. What a stupid thing to say! Of the 27 months N served in Iraq, he had one encounter with violence. ONE. And it was because two of his guys had been taken hostage and HE was being shot at first. You can bet that he'd retaliate after something like that! Most of those 27 months he spent there involved him helping to defend the locals and doing community building type projects, not carrying out acts of violence left and right. That comment made my blood boil.
Posted by ggmae[/QUOTE]
<div>I'm GLAD he retaliated. I hope to God my cousin has men like N watching out for him and willing to be "violent" to protect him.</div><div>
</div><div>H is a retired Marine and I had NEVER heard of him acting violently in any way until he punched a guy in the face for convincing his 14 year old sister to meet him after dark (it was online and he claimed to be one of the Jonas brothers, WTF). I WAS SO PROUD, but he actually felt bad about it later, even if it was satisfying. It only makes me love him more.</div>
Uh..... Why not? It does nothing for me to be mean to other people. I honestly don't get it. It's one thing to clue in somebody who's being rude, but it baffles me that people find it so ridiculous to assume that everyone has issues and to treat them with respect. It's really not that hard.
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[QUOTE]I just got home, but I flame the whole anti-niceness thing. Every time I see something along the lines of "Why should we be nice to people who have issues? Everyone has issues.. Are we supposed to be nice to everyone?!?!" Uh..... Why not? It does nothing for me to be mean to other people. I honestly don't get it. It's one thing to clue in somebody who's being rude, but it baffles me that people find it so ridiculous to assume that everyone has issues and to treat them with respect. It's really not that hard.
Posted by polichik[/QUOTE]
<div>Eye to eye, Poli.</div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm GLAD he retaliated. I hope to God my cousin has men like N watching out for him and willing to be "violent" to protect him. H is a retired Marine and I had NEVER heard of him acting violently in any way until he punched a guy in the face for convincing his 14 year old sister to meet him after dark (it was online and he claimed to be one of the Jonas brothers, WTF). I WAS SO PROUD, but he actually felt bad about it later, even if it was satisfying. It only makes me love him more.
Posted by stellabbella129[/QUOTE]
I'm glad too, because who knows what may have happened to him or his men had he just retreated. When people kidnap or blow-up your friends, retaliating is a pretty easy decision to make.
Most people look at N and would never guess that he was in the Army for 5 years. He's timid and quiet, and very calm and level-headed. That's what made him great when he served.
Poli - I agree 100%. It takes more effort to be rude to someone than it does to be kind, IMO.
Ridiculous example: I live on a military base. Obviously, it's secure. Gates and guards and such. A few months ago, a car with two guys in it (turned out to be a stolen car running from police) turned onto the base. They didn't stop at the gate for ID check, just blew right through. The pop up barriers were not active yet (they are now), so the car zoomed into the base, past Security Forces at the gate and ignored all requests to stop.
They proceeded into the base, past the day care, past the shopping center - all the "community areas" - and headed onto the bridge - the link to the "active" area of the base - the flightline, the bomb dump, etc. They stopped briefly and security forces stepped out in front of the car to demand they exit the car. They not only didn't exit the car, they gunned it for the Airmen.
So they opened fire. There was a car accident, and at least the driver died - I think both might have.
In ALL the online news stories the next day - before NAMES WERE EVEN RELEASED (so no one knew anything about the men in the car) - all the comments were saying that the Security Forces airmen were racist, that they were violent morons, that they shouldn't be trusted with guns, that they should have asked if the people in the car spoke English before opening firing, that the base should be shut down, that the men who fired should be court martialed, that the military is a disgrace, and on and on and ON.
Sorry for the rant, I just CANNOT put myself in that mindset. At ALL.
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In terms of being quick to jump the military's defense, I have always supported and appreciated our troops, but I am much more vocal about it these days because N served and because my brother is active.
Then I met Dh (former Marine) and a couple of his buddies and it completely turned my opinion around.
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