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'Female-led relationships' and apparently questionable paternity

This is from Dear Prudie today:

Q. Paternity: My wife and I have a female-led relationship. Before we got married, I agreed that she could "take other lovers," while I would remain faithful to her alone. She said that she might not ever see anyone else, but she liked that I knew she could. Well, now she's pregnant, and I'm wondering the obvious. We do have intercourse, but not often. She was away on business near the time she would have conceived. I don't know whether she's ever had another lover. I could have asked that before, but now I'm afraid of how it would come across. Should I ask, or just wait to see if the baby looks like me?

A: Thank you for informing me of the phrase "female-led relationship." From reading the definition, I see that it doesn't necessarily mean that the wife take lovers while the husband is home making soup. It just means she is in charge. (Hear that, Darling, it's not me being intolerably bossy, it's a lifestyle!) In an earlier day, writer John Mortimer delightfully appropriated the term, She Who Must Be Obeyed, to describe this sort of relationship in Rumpole of the Bailey. But just because you agreed your wife would set the terms of both her behavior and yours doesn't mean you are not now entitled to rethink things. If you say you want to talk about the pregnancy and the child's possible paternity and she orders you into the dungeon, then you two are suffering from a failure to communicate. One of the basics of embarking on parenthood is knowing how the event came to be. If you're afraid to ask, then you need to rethink what it means to raise a child together not as equal partners. I assume you don't want your offspring to think of dad as a timid, quivering wreck. If you don't have the guts to discuss this up with your wife, then maybe you can pass her a note saying you'd like the engage the services of a marriage counselor so that you have a safe place to talk to her.


I'm sorry, what the what the WHAT??

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I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'

Re: 'Female-led relationships' and apparently questionable paternity

  • Okay? Sure.

    I think they should tryout for Maury Povich.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • That is crazy town!!  Who does this...willingly!?
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  • Are none of you familiar with open or poly relationships?

    But if the guy is questioning his girl then why doesn't he just ask her? If they're comfortable enough to be non-monogamous then surely they should feel comfortable discussing other partners? Or maybe that's just my bias.
  • Are none of you familiar with open or poly relationships? But if the guy is questioning his girl then why doesn't he just ask her? If they're comfortable enough to be non-monogamous then surely they should feel comfortable discussing other partners? Or maybe that's just my bias.
    Experientially, no, I'm not. But my understanding is that, in truly open or poly relationships, BOTH parties have the right to have other sexual partners.

    And if you read his letter carefully, it doesn't sound like he's truly comfortable with it at all. Also -- HE doesn't have other partners; he's not allowed to. Only she is.

    Regardless of your relationship choices, what's sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander as well.
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
  • I actually know of a few couples who are in semi-open relationships. I don't judge and I'm not super close with any of them, but I do find the dynamic odd.

    In one of those relationships, the man often travels for work and will usually get a "hall pass" when he does so (if he's gone for more than a couple of days). However, the woman doesn't feel the need to be with anyone else while he's away. They occasionally have picked up single women in bars and brought them home, and there is another couple they've played with a few times.

    The weird part in that one for me is that he's willing and able to sleep around without her there, and she's fine with it (as long as she gives her approval beforehand), but she never sleeps with anyone when he isn't present. I guess this is what works for them, and maybe she doesn't feel the need to boink as many people as he does, but still.

    I also find it funny that despite this sexual freedom, he has cheated on her (slept with someone else without her permission) on multiple occasions.


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  • I have several friends who are in open marriages/relationships, and one of the cornerstones of those relationships is honesty. There's no wondering if their partner had been with someone else, they set out guidelines for what each is comfortable with and don't hide it if they have/had other partners. Open relationship or not, if you're sleeping around without your partner's knowledge, I personally would consider that cheating - and a total dealbreaker.
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  • Correct me if I'm wrong but from the sound of it it sounds like 1. HE was the one that said he would be loyal, she didn't tell him too. 2. It doesn't sound like she's exactly being dishonest, she's just not telling him, which could be lying by omission or just she didn't think it would matter.
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