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  • He does go to therapy on his own. His concern with doing couples right now is he might have to switch to a new mental health center because of an issue with Social Security.

    In Utah, you have to have so much peripheral vision in each eye to drive. My left eye hasn't been perfect prior to this but it had enough. The person helping me when I got my learner's permit said that it barely passed. Now it's got worse and with the light sensitivity thing is also an issue with car lights.

    As far as what he's fighting in his sleep, he has schizoeffective. Sees and hears things that aren't there, for those who may not know. So I think it's one of those "goblins" (that's what he described to me once, so that's what I call them).
  • Teddy917 said:
    He does go to therapy on his own. His concern with doing couples right now is he might have to switch to a new mental health center because of an issue with Social Security. In Utah, you have to have so much peripheral vision in each eye to drive. My left eye hasn't been perfect prior to this but it had enough. The person helping me when I got my learner's permit said that it barely passed. Now it's got worse and with the light sensitivity thing is also an issue with car lights. As far as what he's fighting in his sleep, he has schizoeffective. Sees and hears things that aren't there, for those who may not know. So I think it's one of those "goblins" (that's what he described to me once, so that's what I call them).
    There's no one in that center who can treat couples? This should be a priority for him, and a high one at that.

    Does he only have delusional episodes when he's asleep, or do they occur in waking hours, too? Are they always aggressive and/or violent?

    I worry that even if he's not intending to hurt you, you're going to get hurt anyway. I'm not trying to be judgmental -- I'm genuinely concerned that there's a chance he may not be able to control his actions and that it may result in you being hurt, whether directly or indirectly. I know that paranoia plays a big part in the disorder, and one of those delusions could be him thinking you don't love him, or also the supposed thing that you do that he won't discuss with you. This could quickly spiral into him aggrandizing the delusion and turning it into something worse, and then he could potentially lash out at you or alienate himself from you.

    I'm not saying that you can't overcome this; I just know that you both need individual and couples counselling if there's any hope for a satisfying, loving, nurturing relationship. And that's also only if he's capable of and willing to put the work in and provide that.


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  • Teddy917 said:

    He does go to therapy on his own. His concern with doing couples right now is he might have to switch to a new mental health center because of an issue with Social Security.

    In Utah, you have to have so much peripheral vision in each eye to drive. My left eye hasn't been perfect prior to this but it had enough. The person helping me when I got my learner's permit said that it barely passed. Now it's got worse and with the light sensitivity thing is also an issue with car lights.

    As far as what he's fighting in his sleep, he has schizoeffective. Sees and hears things that aren't there, for those who may not know. So I think it's one of those "goblins" (that's what he described to me once, so that's what I call them).

    More red flags. Where are you on therapy for yourself? And when are you going to tell him that it's couples therapy or it's your marriage?

    ETA: I don't mean to be harsh, but literally EVERY.SINGLE.TIME you post, I see more red flags. I am concerned for your physical safety, for your mental well-being, and for your emotional health. 

    You need to emphasise to him that either he makes couple's counselling a priority or you will walk out of your marriage -- and you need to mean that. 


    The "marriage counseling or walk" thing is actually something he said to me about a month after we were married. The issue (if I remember correctly) was a matter of sleeping together. He wasn't used to sleeping with someone and wanted to sleep in separate rooms or at least seperate beds (he's over that now and is sort of a big teddy bear in bed now). And he recommended we get couples counseling. I pointed out that if we needed couples counseling for a matter like that, we would almost be needing one if we disagreed on dinner. I pointed out to him that we were just adjusting to each other and that some small kinks will work themselves out. I even offered to take the floor (we only have one bed). Eventually he started wanting me in bed with him. But he has off and on always wanted couples counseling. He just wants to figure out SS issues first.
  • Just so you have another voice telling you, go get help. This isn't healthy. I couldn't even imagine. Go now, asap. Go to therapy.

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  • I agree with what the PPs have said. You need to get help soon. I get more and more concerned for you each time you post.
  • Sort of off topic, but I'm not too upset over the sleep thing. FI has this friend that does bizarre shit in his sleep. He talks, he walks, he yells, FI has seen it himself. The first time he stayed the night with his now wife, he grabbed her and yelled "I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU". I would've fucking jumped out the window, but she stuck around til morning for some reason and told him about it and he had no idea. They just had their second kid- great guy, just not when he's asleep I guess! He's done that since he was a kid, no PTSD or anything like that.

    FI has hit me in his sleep. I don't know if it was really a punch though- more like a flail where my face was in the way. I've punched my sister in the gut as a kid. My ex bit me- I woke up to him latched onto my arm. It left a huge bruise. Maybe I just know a lot of violent sleepers, myself included!

    But everything else I am super worried about. You are trying really hard, and he isn't at all. I think people get caught up in thinking they need to make it work because the person that they're with isn't a bad person. I'm sure he isn't, but this all sounds irreparably incompatible as hell. Could you maybe stay with some family for a bit? It sounds like a little time away from each other might give you some clarity. 
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  • Teddy917 said:


    Teddy917 said:

    He does go to therapy on his own. His concern with doing couples right now is he might have to switch to a new mental health center because of an issue with Social Security.

    In Utah, you have to have so much peripheral vision in each eye to drive. My left eye hasn't been perfect prior to this but it had enough. The person helping me when I got my learner's permit said that it barely passed. Now it's got worse and with the light sensitivity thing is also an issue with car lights.

    As far as what he's fighting in his sleep, he has schizoeffective. Sees and hears things that aren't there, for those who may not know. So I think it's one of those "goblins" (that's what he described to me once, so that's what I call them).

    More red flags. Where are you on therapy for yourself? And when are you going to tell him that it's couples therapy or it's your marriage?

    ETA: I don't mean to be harsh, but literally EVERY.SINGLE.TIME you post, I see more red flags. I am concerned for your physical safety, for your mental well-being, and for your emotional health. 

    You need to emphasise to him that either he makes couple's counselling a priority or you will walk out of your marriage -- and you need to mean that. 
    The "marriage counseling or walk" thing is actually something he said to me about a month after we were married. The issue (if I remember correctly) was a matter of sleeping together. He wasn't used to sleeping with someone and wanted to sleep in separate rooms or at least seperate beds (he's over that now and is sort of a big teddy bear in bed now). And he recommended we get couples counseling. I pointed out that if we needed couples counseling for a matter like that, we would almost be needing one if we disagreed on dinner. I pointed out to him that we were just adjusting to each other and that some small kinks will work themselves out. I even offered to take the floor (we only have one bed). Eventually he started wanting me in bed with him. But he has off and on always wanted couples counseling. He just wants to figure out SS issues first.

    Wait wait wait. PLEASE tell me that you weren't sleeping on the floor.
  • This all makes me so so sad to read.

    May I suggest reading "Codependent No More"? It is about finding self-help in a difficult and unhealthy relationship.

    I'm so worried! This is not healthy for any part of you.

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  • This all makes me so so sad to read. May I suggest reading "Codependent No More"? It is about finding self-help in a difficult and unhealthy relationship. I'm so worried! This is not healthy for any part of you.

    THIS! I have read several books on codependency. While it took some time for me to sort out my own issues, I can honestly say I'm in a good place now and I think you will be too once you seek out assistance.

    FWIW- I told my ex-H that it was therapy or nothing. I gave him a few days to think it over and when he said no, the papers were filed. Yes, it was scary as shit to go through that, but I came out a much better, stronger person on the other end of it.

     







  • This all makes me so so sad to read. May I suggest reading "Codependent No More"? It is about finding self-help in a difficult and unhealthy relationship. I'm so worried! This is not healthy for any part of you.

    THIS! I have read several books on codependency. While it took some time for me to sort out my own issues, I can honestly say I'm in a good place now and I think you will be too once you seek out assistance.

    FWIW- I told my ex-H that it was therapy or nothing. I gave him a few days to think it over and when he said no, the papers were filed. Yes, it was scary as shit to go through that, but I came out a much better, stronger person on the other end of it.


    PLEASE - read this book.  You need the information that is in there and you need it now.  Screw the couples counseling, YOU NEED counseling now.  I implore you, I beg you, please - go get counseling for yourself right now.  And - get that book!
  • This makes me so sad for you. You deserve someone that loves and respects you. I agree with all of the PPs - please go to therapy for yourself. 
  • OP- I have read through your various posts and nothing about this situation seems remotely normal.

    It is obvious that you are a caring person and you want a good relationship. But this isnt good or normal. You both need some counseling.
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  • Forget couples counselling, you need to be in individual therapy stat. The more I read, the more I learn that the problem isn't him. It's you. You are in an abusive relationship with yourself. He is just the passenger. Get some help.
  • @Teddy917 said.........."He does go to therapy on his own. His concern with doing couples right now is he might have to switch to a new mental health center because of an issue with Social Security."

    I'm sorry, but I have to ask.  Other than his word, do you know for certain that he actually does go to therapy?


  • Do you want to be in this situation? Do you want to be married to him?

    Are there any positives about this?
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  • @Teddy917 -- I'm also concerned that we haven't heard from you in a while. I know that this is a difficult position to be in, but you can't just ignore the problems. This IS an abusive relationship, based off of everything you've told us in all of your previous posts. This is NOT a good marriage.

    Run to therapy. Go now. Please.


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  • mobkaz said:

    @Teddy917 said.........."He does go to therapy on his own. His concern with doing couples right now is he might have to switch to a new mental health center because of an issue with Social Security."


    I'm sorry, but I have to ask.  Other than his word, do you know for certain that he actually does go to therapy?


    Sorry I haven't posted on this in a while. It hasn't been telling me that there's been new replies nor has it been near the top to indicate it's been posted on recently.

    To answer your question: I know because I've gone with him a couple of times at his request. And because he doesn't drive, he gets a ride.

  • I can't find the post that mentioned talking to someone who knows both of us. I read it but can't find it now that I want to quote it.

    Anyway to whomever brought that up: We've both talked to someone that knows both of us and the situation better than I can describe on here. She is concerned but not overly concerned. Like she is worried about us but not... I don't know how to explain it.
  • Forget couples counselling, you need to be in individual therapy stat.

    The more I read, the more I learn that the problem isn't him. It's you. You are in an abusive relationship with yourself. He is just the passenger. Get some help.

    How do you figure that?
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