SYTTD - $4500 on a toddler dress!

holyguacamole79

I still don't get what the issue is with braces. And how do you know that they aren't "top shelf"?

hellohkb

People from 'old money' often carry themselves normally. They often wear a sweatshirt and jeans. One cannot assume someone's socioeconomic level so quickly. She clearly has some money if she was able to put a down payment on those dresses.

Ndelible

hellokellybean said:

/Palm face So how exactly do you know they're not loaded? Why bring in the racial stereotypes with the drug dealer or rapper?

Funny you say that, cause drug dealers and rappers can be races other than black.  However, those occupations can bring in lots of money for very short periods of time.

Ndelible

@pinkcow13  I would not be surprised.  It was a hot topic here in LA, and the whole football scholarship thing too.  But a Maybach?  Apex of your life buddy.  Where else you gonna go from there?

hellohkb

Of course they can, the only dealers I ever met were white. But the only occupations you mentioned are ones that are extremely stereotypical? I'm sure you didn't mean any harm, but...

ETA I can't type

chibiyui

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD   Really?  As many side eyes that I've read about guests wearing white to weddings?  That's not petty?

@chibiyui  From where I sit, judging etiquette that doesn't hurt anyone is fairly petty when compared with spending what could amount to a semester of college for the price of a dress for a 2 year old?  Seriously?

This is not to say that I wasn't judgy or snarky; freely admitted, but then to be accused of being so petty seems a bit, I don't know, hypocritical maybe?   Let's face it, we all make judgments.  None of them are probably very nice.  Mine was about someone on a TV show.   

First off, I haven't accused you of being petty. I was merely pointing out real life experience of people who look like they have no money having shit tons of money. Shit, MIL and H are some of them. I understand the impulse of assuming one's socioeconomic status, I do it everyday with customers wondering if they're going to be worth my time. Sometimes those cues save me hassle, sometimes I miss a super sweet sale. 

I personally do side-eye that kind of spending a bit, I'd have loved to have that kind of money to just drop on whatever. But that kind of spending does provide jobs and security for those in luxury goods. While it might be wasteful spending to many of us, people dropping that kinda dough keeps the economy going round. 

lyndausvi

chibiyui said:

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD   Really?  As many side eyes that I've read about guests wearing white to weddings?  That's not petty?

@chibiyui  From where I sit, judging etiquette that doesn't hurt anyone is fairly petty when compared with spending what could amount to a semester of college for the price of a dress for a 2 year old?  Seriously?

This is not to say that I wasn't judgy or snarky; freely admitted, but then to be accused of being so petty seems a bit, I don't know, hypocritical maybe?   Let's face it, we all make judgments.  None of them are probably very nice.  Mine was about someone on a TV show.   

First off, I haven't accused you of being petty. I was merely pointing out real life experience of people who look like they have no money having shit tons of money. Shit, MIL and H are some of them. I understand the impulse of assuming one's socioeconomic status, I do it everyday with customers wondering if they're going to be worth my time. Sometimes those cues save me hassle, sometimes I miss a super sweet sale. 

I personally do side-eye that kind of spending a bit, I'd have loved to have that kind of money to just drop on whatever. But that kind of spending does provide jobs and security for those in luxury goods. While it might be wasteful spending to many of us, people dropping that kinda dough keeps the economy going round. 

*******STIB *******

I said something similar on Yahoo yesterday.  Some guy was bitching about Clooney spending all the money on his wedding.  He said it should have gone to charity.   

Whatever dude.  I'm sure the hotel employee were thrilled to have the wedding there.  I'm sure the water taxi people were thrilled they were booked for 4 days.  Chefs, cooks, busboys, waitstaff all benefited.   I'm sure the light and sound guys loved they had 1 or more gigs.  I'm sure the food provers were happy they had customers to sell too.  The liquor distributors had customers.  Their truck drivers had somewhere to deliver.  The florist had business.   A lot of wedding vendors are small business owners.      

It's really easy to say it's a waste of money. However, normal working people directly and indirectly benefit from that kind of spending.

lovesclimbing

Even if I was rich, I can not imagine spending that much on a dress for a toddler who will outgrow it in just a few months and will probably spill food on it.

debbeau

Lynda, great point about how many hard working people benefited.

blabla89

lovesclimbing said:

Even if I was rich, I can not imagine spending that much on a dress for a toddler who will outgrow it in just a few months and will probably spill food on it.

Exactly. Toddler doesn't even know she's wearing a designer dress.

rajahmd

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD   Really?  As many side eyes that I've read about guests wearing white to weddings?  That's not petty?

@chibiyui  From where I sit, judging etiquette that doesn't hurt anyone is fairly petty when compared with spending what could amount to a semester of college for the price of a dress for a 2 year old?  Seriously?

This is not to say that I wasn't judgy or snarky; freely admitted, but then to be accused of being so petty seems a bit, I don't know, hypocritical maybe?   Let's face it, we all make judgments.  None of them are probably very nice.  Mine was about someone on a TV show.   

Pretty sure I never said judging white dresses wasn't petty. Way to put words in my mouth there. As you can tell from my sig pic, I think the whole white dress thing is ridiculous in its own way. There's a big difference between going "not my style" and basically insinuating that the only way they could afford the dresses is if they were drug dealers.

princessofgenovia

I can't wrap my head around spending $4500 on a dress for a small child who will likely never wear it again, have no memory of wearing, and will probably get it dirty. And if it were my kid and a bride was telling me I had to stick her in a dress that cost more then my car, I would not be having said kid in the wedding.

But I don't watch SYTTD anyways because it's always rediculus and over the top. Plus I can't handle all the people weighing in on what the bride should/shouldn't wear. It just gets insane. I did learn that there is no way in hell I'm taking that many people dress shopping with me. Ever. For any dress.

Maggie0829

Regarding Diddy and the Maybach thing.  Sometimes us average folks like to be lavish for our family members as well at a milestone birthday.  So for an average person to buy a Lexus for their 16 year old kids birthday is kind of in line to Diddy buying a Maybach for his son's birthday.  Both are lavish expenses in correlation with the amount of money that the buyer has.  And you have to think of things in context of you are talking about.  Diddy who is worth millions probably sees a Lexus as average folk see a Hyundai.  While a Maybach is seen to Diddy as average folk see a Lexus or Mercedes.

But I watch SYTTD a lot and many times I roll my eyes at people who spend thousands upon thousands on dresses.  To me it just seems pointless because I don't see those super expensive dresses being any prettier or better then one that is half the price.

I do judge this one girl on Something Borrowed and Something Blue though.  She was having a wedding on the Venice Pier in CA.  She said that her FI was going to wear blue jeans and they were going to have a Krispy Kreme donut cake and a food truck with french dip sandwiches as their food, but she was willing to drop $4K on her dress.  To me the two things do not go together.  I judged her for shelling out $4K on a dress for an event that was supposed to be super casual.  A $4K dress, no matter the style, does not equal I am eating a french dip and chopping down on a donut casual.

Ndelible

lyndausvi  The trope that rich people spending money makes the economy go is false.  It's middle income people spending money that raises all boats.  The problem with an extravagant amount of money spent on 5 dresses is that a very small number of businesses benefit from that amount of spend - say versus $70k spent at several mass shops like David's Bridal that employs more people, who in turn, spend their earnings.

Ndelible

RajahBMFD not you personally - but in general, on the Boards.  Words in mouth is a common mistake made by us all.

And when I said drug dealer or rapper - I picked two ways that money can be made by people easily and quickly.  As my ex-husband used to say - "farmers with money and then the crop doesn't come in; nothing left. {cause girlfriend spent it on expensive dresses}"

chibiyui

Ndelible said:

lyndausvi  The trope that rich people spending money makes the economy go is false.  It's middle income people spending money that raises all boats.  The problem with an extravagant amount of money spent on 5 dresses is that a very small number of businesses benefit from that amount of spend - say versus $70k spent at several mass shops like David's Bridal that employs more people, who in turn, spend their earnings.

I don't think anyone would argue that this lady dropping 70k at a Davids wouldn't be better for the economy, but her dropping 70k (as long as it's within her means) ANYWHERE is better then her holding on to it for the economy. 

Luxury goods is a small part of the economy, but it still helps. I don't think anyone here is trying to advocate trickle down economics. 

rajahmd

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD not you personally - but in general, on the Boards.  Words in mouth is a common mistake made by us all.

And when I said drug dealer or rapper - I picked two ways that money can be made by people easily and quickly.  As my ex-husband used to say - "farmers with money and then the crop doesn't come in; nothing left. {cause girlfriend spent it on expensive dresses}"

But your response made no sense. My post made no mention of whether or not wearing white is petty to judge. You made that leap all on your own. Even still, one thing being petty/not petty cannot negate the pettiness of something else, ie the pettiness of your judging the bride on the TV is not related to whether or not judging white dresses is petty. So it's a silly statement to say on your end. 

Ndelible

chibiyui said:

Ndelible said:

lyndausvi  The trope that rich people spending money makes the economy go is false.  It's middle income people spending money that raises all boats.  The problem with an extravagant amount of money spent on 5 dresses is that a very small number of businesses benefit from that amount of spend - say versus $70k spent at several mass shops like David's Bridal that employs more people, who in turn, spend their earnings.

I don't think anyone would argue that this lady dropping 70k at a Davids wouldn't be better for the economy, but her dropping 70k (as long as it's within her means) ANYWHERE is better then her holding on to it for the economy. 

Luxury goods is a small part of the economy, but it still helps. I don't think anyone here is trying to advocate trickle down economics. 

 

Whew!

Ndelible

RajahBMFD said:

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD not you personally - but in general, on the Boards.  Words in mouth is a common mistake made by us all.

And when I said drug dealer or rapper - I picked two ways that money can be made by people easily and quickly.  As my ex-husband used to say - "farmers with money and then the crop doesn't come in; nothing left. {cause girlfriend spent it on expensive dresses}"

But your response made no sense. My post made no mention of whether or not wearing white is petty to judge. You made that leap all on your own. Even still, one thing being petty/not petty cannot negate the pettiness of something else, ie the pettiness of your judging the bride on the TV is not related to whether or not judging white dresses is petty. So it's a silly statement to say on your end. 

 

Okay.  Judging is judging.  One being no more egregious than the other.

rajahmd

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD said:

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD not you personally - but in general, on the Boards.  Words in mouth is a common mistake made by us all.

And when I said drug dealer or rapper - I picked two ways that money can be made by people easily and quickly.  As my ex-husband used to say - "farmers with money and then the crop doesn't come in; nothing left. {cause girlfriend spent it on expensive dresses}"

But your response made no sense. My post made no mention of whether or not wearing white is petty to judge. You made that leap all on your own. Even still, one thing being petty/not petty cannot negate the pettiness of something else, ie the pettiness of your judging the bride on the TV is not related to whether or not judging white dresses is petty. So it's a silly statement to say on your end. 

 

Okay.  Judging is judging.  One being no more egregious than the other.

I honestly have no idea what point you are trying to make at this juncture. 

Ndelible

RajahBMFD  Only that we all judge and in that, we draw our lines on what we think is right and/or appropriate.  That's it. 

mrstrevor3

Ndelible said:

lyndausvi said:

I work for millionaires and billionaries.   That kind of money exists.   

As far as those people?  Who knows?  Maybe it's plastic? Maybe they are mortgaging their home? Maybe they have strange priorities (i.e. live in a shoe box to afford a $70K dress)? 

I'm not sure how you know they are not top shelf people.   One of our multi-millionaire club members wears Wrangler jeans while ordering $1000 bottles of wine.

Oh, I am being judgy - even noveau riche could not be a possibility.  I was really going to be mean and say drug dealers.  Or maybe the fiance was a low level rapper.  Yup.  I'm going there.

Even if he were a "low level rapper" (you have no idea what they do) does that make you better than them?  Do you classify on how good or not people are by how much money they make or what they do for a living. I'm not saying a drug dealer is good, but I don't get why you are so mad. Huh...

Ndelible

@mrstrevor3. Me either. I think someone took over my body. A snarky someone.

Jells2dot0

@Ndelible I think we all have days where we're super judgy over things that don't matter or don't make any sense!! I have been having them a little too often lately

Ndelible

Thanks @Jells2dot0. I needed that.

AlexisA01

lyndausvi said:

I work for millionaires and billionaries.   That kind of money exists.   

As far as those people?  Who knows?  Maybe it's plastic? Maybe they are mortgaging their home? Maybe they have strange priorities (i.e. live in a shoe box to afford a $70K dress)? 

I'm not sure how you know they are not top shelf people.   One of our multi-millionaire club members wears Wrangler jeans while ordering $1000 bottles of wine.

That is something my father does. He only wears men's clothes from Target and yet he is a multimillionaire. 

AlexisA01

lyndausvi said:

chibiyui said:

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD   Really?  As many side eyes that I've read about guests wearing white to weddings?  That's not petty?

@chibiyui  From where I sit, judging etiquette that doesn't hurt anyone is fairly petty when compared with spending what could amount to a semester of college for the price of a dress for a 2 year old?  Seriously?

This is not to say that I wasn't judgy or snarky; freely admitted, but then to be accused of being so petty seems a bit, I don't know, hypocritical maybe?   Let's face it, we all make judgments.  None of them are probably very nice.  Mine was about someone on a TV show.   

First off, I haven't accused you of being petty. I was merely pointing out real life experience of people who look like they have no money having shit tons of money. Shit, MIL and H are some of them. I understand the impulse of assuming one's socioeconomic status, I do it everyday with customers wondering if they're going to be worth my time. Sometimes those cues save me hassle, sometimes I miss a super sweet sale. 

I personally do side-eye that kind of spending a bit, I'd have loved to have that kind of money to just drop on whatever. But that kind of spending does provide jobs and security for those in luxury goods. While it might be wasteful spending to many of us, people dropping that kinda dough keeps the economy going round. 

*******STIB *******

I said something similar on Yahoo yesterday.  Some guy was bitching about Clooney spending all the money on his wedding.  He said it should have gone to charity.   

Whatever dude.  I'm sure the hotel employee were thrilled to have the wedding there.  I'm sure the water taxi people were thrilled they were booked for 4 days.  Chefs, cooks, busboys, waitstaff all benefited.   I'm sure the light and sound guys loved they had 1 or more gigs.  I'm sure the food provers were happy they had customers to sell too.  The liquor distributors had customers.  Their truck drivers had somewhere to deliver.  The florist had business.   A lot of wedding vendors are small business owners.      

It's really easy to say it's a waste of money. However, normal working people directly and indirectly benefit from that kind of spending.

I never understood why people always say that they should give the money to charity instead of having a very decadent wedding. It's a phrase that always rubs me the wrong way because people can spend their money how they want if especially when they can afford it. 

sarahufl

AlexisA01 said:

lyndausvi said:

chibiyui said:

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD   Really?  As many side eyes that I've read about guests wearing white to weddings?  That's not petty?

@chibiyui  From where I sit, judging etiquette that doesn't hurt anyone is fairly petty when compared with spending what could amount to a semester of college for the price of a dress for a 2 year old?  Seriously?

This is not to say that I wasn't judgy or snarky; freely admitted, but then to be accused of being so petty seems a bit, I don't know, hypocritical maybe?   Let's face it, we all make judgments.  None of them are probably very nice.  Mine was about someone on a TV show.   

First off, I haven't accused you of being petty. I was merely pointing out real life experience of people who look like they have no money having shit tons of money. Shit, MIL and H are some of them. I understand the impulse of assuming one's socioeconomic status, I do it everyday with customers wondering if they're going to be worth my time. Sometimes those cues save me hassle, sometimes I miss a super sweet sale. 

I personally do side-eye that kind of spending a bit, I'd have loved to have that kind of money to just drop on whatever. But that kind of spending does provide jobs and security for those in luxury goods. While it might be wasteful spending to many of us, people dropping that kinda dough keeps the economy going round. 

*******STIB *******

I said something similar on Yahoo yesterday.  Some guy was bitching about Clooney spending all the money on his wedding.  He said it should have gone to charity.   

Whatever dude.  I'm sure the hotel employee were thrilled to have the wedding there.  I'm sure the water taxi people were thrilled they were booked for 4 days.  Chefs, cooks, busboys, waitstaff all benefited.   I'm sure the light and sound guys loved they had 1 or more gigs.  I'm sure the food provers were happy they had customers to sell too.  The liquor distributors had customers.  Their truck drivers had somewhere to deliver.  The florist had business.   A lot of wedding vendors are small business owners.      

It's really easy to say it's a waste of money. However, normal working people directly and indirectly benefit from that kind of spending.

I never understood why people always say that they should give the money to charity instead of having a very decadent wedding. It's a phrase that always rubs me the wrong way because people can spend their money how they want if especially when they can afford it.

STUCK

Agreed. Especially considering that Clooney DOES donate a lot to charity and does a lot of good. Why can't he have a big, blow-out wedding?!

Ndelible

AlexisA01 said:

lyndausvi said:

I work for millionaires and billionaries.   That kind of money exists.   

As far as those people?  Who knows?  Maybe it's plastic? Maybe they are mortgaging their home? Maybe they have strange priorities (i.e. live in a shoe box to afford a $70K dress)? 

I'm not sure how you know they are not top shelf people.   One of our multi-millionaire club members wears Wrangler jeans while ordering $1000 bottles of wine.

That is something my father does. He only wears men's clothes from Target and yet he is a multimillionaire. 

I do want to say that my snark was not because of clothing.  I am very much aware of the millionaire next door.  Ever heard of the saying, "there's has money and from money"? 

Ndelible

AlexisA01 said:

lyndausvi said:

chibiyui said:

Ndelible said:

RajahBMFD   Really?  As many side eyes that I've read about guests wearing white to weddings?  That's not petty?

@chibiyui  From where I sit, judging etiquette that doesn't hurt anyone is fairly petty when compared with spending what could amount to a semester of college for the price of a dress for a 2 year old?  Seriously?

This is not to say that I wasn't judgy or snarky; freely admitted, but then to be accused of being so petty seems a bit, I don't know, hypocritical maybe?   Let's face it, we all make judgments.  None of them are probably very nice.  Mine was about someone on a TV show.   

First off, I haven't accused you of being petty. I was merely pointing out real life experience of people who look like they have no money having shit tons of money. Shit, MIL and H are some of them. I understand the impulse of assuming one's socioeconomic status, I do it everyday with customers wondering if they're going to be worth my time. Sometimes those cues save me hassle, sometimes I miss a super sweet sale. 

I personally do side-eye that kind of spending a bit, I'd have loved to have that kind of money to just drop on whatever. But that kind of spending does provide jobs and security for those in luxury goods. While it might be wasteful spending to many of us, people dropping that kinda dough keeps the economy going round. 

*******STIB *******

I said something similar on Yahoo yesterday.  Some guy was bitching about Clooney spending all the money on his wedding.  He said it should have gone to charity.   

Whatever dude.  I'm sure the hotel employee were thrilled to have the wedding there.  I'm sure the water taxi people were thrilled they were booked for 4 days.  Chefs, cooks, busboys, waitstaff all benefited.   I'm sure the light and sound guys loved they had 1 or more gigs.  I'm sure the food provers were happy they had customers to sell too.  The liquor distributors had customers.  Their truck drivers had somewhere to deliver.  The florist had business.   A lot of wedding vendors are small business owners.      

It's really easy to say it's a waste of money. However, normal working people directly and indirectly benefit from that kind of spending.

I never understood why people always say that they should give the money to charity instead of having a very decadent wedding. It's a phrase that always rubs me the wrong way because people can spend their money how they want if especially when they can afford it. 

Okay, I'm totally dragging a whole 'nother issue in - if decadent weddings are okay and folks should spend money - perhaps via a wedding, isn't that a perfectly valid reason for a couple to do the dreaded PPD?  If they have the money and the inclination, why the heck not?  It's just a party keeping our economy afloat...