Groom wants pink shoes...

princessofgenovia

So I did a google image search just to see what I could come up with and well...a lot of it looks like it belongs to one of those pimp costumes they have out for Halloween.

But these are pretty bad ass:

Maggie0829

chibiyui said:

KatWAG said:

jenna8984 said:

CMGragain said:

There are rules about wearing tuxedos.  1.  They are for evening events ONLY!  2.  They are worn with black dress shoes and black socks.  It is your wedding, not a fraternity party.

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Contemporary/Contemp_Other.htm

You don't want this: 

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Hall_of_Shame.htm

You are consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings. Colored socks do not ruin a fucking wedding nor turn it into a "frat party". 

I think this is really uncalled for @jenna8984. You can disagree with @CMGragain but I think this is out of line.

I'm going to agree with @KatWAG.  That was a bit too far. 

I am going to have to disagree.  I think myself and few others on here feel the same when it comes to CMGr.  There is something about following etiquette and rules but then there is another when "loosening your tie" even slightly is frowned upon when it comes to weddings. Showing some personality and character is not wrong especially when it has zero effect on your guests, like socks.

chibiyui

Maggie0829 said:

chibiyui said:

KatWAG said:

jenna8984 said:

CMGragain said:

There are rules about wearing tuxedos.  1.  They are for evening events ONLY!  2.  They are worn with black dress shoes and black socks.  It is your wedding, not a fraternity party.

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Contemporary/Contemp_Other.htm

You don't want this: 

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Hall_of_Shame.htm

You are consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings. Colored socks do not ruin a fucking wedding nor turn it into a "frat party". 

I think this is really uncalled for @jenna8984. You can disagree with @CMGragain but I think this is out of line.

I'm going to agree with @KatWAG.  That was a bit too far. 

I am going to have to disagree.  I think myself and few others on here feel the same when it comes to CMGr.  There is something about following etiquette and rules but then there is another when "loosening your tie" even slightly is frowned upon when it comes to weddings. Showing some personality and character is not wrong especially when it has zero effect on your guests, like socks.

But you can also disagree or even tell someone to loosen up without also telling them that they are the most un-fun person ever. 

Or shit. I probably wouldn't have really cared if Jenna used just one of those words, I just think it was excessive. 

jenna8984

chibiyui said:

Maggie0829 said:

chibiyui said:

KatWAG said:

jenna8984 said:

CMGragain said:

There are rules about wearing tuxedos.  1.  They are for evening events ONLY!  2.  They are worn with black dress shoes and black socks.  It is your wedding, not a fraternity party.

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Contemporary/Contemp_Other.htm

You don't want this: 

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Hall_of_Shame.htm

You are consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings. Colored socks do not ruin a fucking wedding nor turn it into a "frat party". 

I think this is really uncalled for @jenna8984. You can disagree with @CMGragain but I think this is out of line.

I'm going to agree with @KatWAG.  That was a bit too far. 

I am going to have to disagree.  I think myself and few others on here feel the same when it comes to CMGr.  There is something about following etiquette and rules but then there is another when "loosening your tie" even slightly is frowned upon when it comes to weddings. Showing some personality and character is not wrong especially when it has zero effect on your guests, like socks.

But you can also disagree or even tell someone to loosen up without also telling them that they are the most un-fun person ever. 

Or shit. I probably wouldn't have really cared if Jenna used just one of those words, I just think it was excessive. 

Eh, I stand by it. Every piece of advice she has ever given has been "do it this way or it's wrong". Your invitations are wrong, your tux is wrong, your groom in just a vest is half dressed. She needs to learn that no, it's not wrong if it's not her ancient way.

jenna8984

We always tell people if your bridesmaids shoes and hair don't match, your wedding is still valid. So same applies here- if your groom is wearing pink socks or shoes, your wedding is still valid. So it's not wrong.

Maggie0829

chibiyui said:

Maggie0829 said:

chibiyui said:

KatWAG said:

jenna8984 said:

CMGragain said:

There are rules about wearing tuxedos.  1.  They are for evening events ONLY!  2.  They are worn with black dress shoes and black socks.  It is your wedding, not a fraternity party.

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Contemporary/Contemp_Other.htm

You don't want this: 

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Hall_of_Shame.htm

You are consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings. Colored socks do not ruin a fucking wedding nor turn it into a "frat party". 

I think this is really uncalled for @jenna8984. You can disagree with @CMGragain but I think this is out of line.

I'm going to agree with @KatWAG.  That was a bit too far. 

I am going to have to disagree.  I think myself and few others on here feel the same when it comes to CMGr.  There is something about following etiquette and rules but then there is another when "loosening your tie" even slightly is frowned upon when it comes to weddings. Showing some personality and character is not wrong especially when it has zero effect on your guests, like socks.

But you can also disagree or even tell someone to loosen up without also telling them that they are the most un-fun person ever. 

Or shit. I probably wouldn't have really cared if Jenna used just one of those words, I just think it was excessive. 

She was talking in regards to weddings not that CMGr is an un-fun person period.

And sorry but I don't think that saying that someone is uptight and rigid when it comes to weddings is being excessive.  That is someone's opinions of someone else's views when it comes to how weddings should be done.  And sorry but saying that socks MUST be black and no other color because of rules is the definition of rigid.

chibiyui

jenna8984 said:

We always tell people if your bridesmaids shoes and hair don't match, your wedding is still valid. So same applies here- if your groom is wearing pink socks or shoes, your wedding is still valid. So it's not wrong.

I think everyone is in agreement that the only crime committed here is one against fashion, I just thought your response was excessive. Thats all. 

Here, have some kittens!

KatWAG

jenna8984 said:

chibiyui said:

Maggie0829 said:

chibiyui said:

KatWAG said:

jenna8984 said:

CMGragain said:

There are rules about wearing tuxedos.  1.  They are for evening events ONLY!  2.  They are worn with black dress shoes and black socks.  It is your wedding, not a fraternity party.

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Contemporary/Contemp_Other.htm

You don't want this: 

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Hall_of_Shame.htm

You are consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings. Colored socks do not ruin a fucking wedding nor turn it into a "frat party". 

I think this is really uncalled for @jenna8984. You can disagree with @CMGragain but I think this is out of line.

I'm going to agree with @KatWAG.  That was a bit too far. 

I am going to have to disagree.  I think myself and few others on here feel the same when it comes to CMGr.  There is something about following etiquette and rules but then there is another when "loosening your tie" even slightly is frowned upon when it comes to weddings. Showing some personality and character is not wrong especially when it has zero effect on your guests, like socks.

But you can also disagree or even tell someone to loosen up without also telling them that they are the most un-fun person ever. 

Or shit. I probably wouldn't have really cared if Jenna used just one of those words, I just think it was excessive. 

Eh, I stand by it. Every piece of advice she has ever given has been "do it this way or it's wrong". Your invitations are wrong, your tux is wrong, your groom in just a vest is half dressed. She needs to learn that no, it's not wrong if it's not her ancient way.

I think what you said borders on a personal attack. A lot of the advice we, regs, give is very black and white also. (cash bars are never okay, potlucks are bad, PPDS are bad, dolar dances are tacky, etc) So I find your what your saying to be hypocritical.

And no she doesnt learn anything. Her opinion is just as valid as yours is. If you dont like the way she posts, then block her.

CMGr's rules are a bit too rigid for me also. But that doesnt make them wrong.

Maggie0829

KatWAG said:

jenna8984 said:

chibiyui said:

Maggie0829 said:

chibiyui said:

KatWAG said:

jenna8984 said:

CMGragain said:

There are rules about wearing tuxedos.  1.  They are for evening events ONLY!  2.  They are worn with black dress shoes and black socks.  It is your wedding, not a fraternity party.

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Contemporary/Contemp_Other.htm

You don't want this: 

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Hall_of_Shame.htm

You are consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings. Colored socks do not ruin a fucking wedding nor turn it into a "frat party". 

I think this is really uncalled for @jenna8984. You can disagree with @CMGragain but I think this is out of line.

I'm going to agree with @KatWAG.  That was a bit too far. 

I am going to have to disagree.  I think myself and few others on here feel the same when it comes to CMGr.  There is something about following etiquette and rules but then there is another when "loosening your tie" even slightly is frowned upon when it comes to weddings. Showing some personality and character is not wrong especially when it has zero effect on your guests, like socks.

But you can also disagree or even tell someone to loosen up without also telling them that they are the most un-fun person ever. 

Or shit. I probably wouldn't have really cared if Jenna used just one of those words, I just think it was excessive. 

Eh, I stand by it. Every piece of advice she has ever given has been "do it this way or it's wrong". Your invitations are wrong, your tux is wrong, your groom in just a vest is half dressed. She needs to learn that no, it's not wrong if it's not her ancient way.

I think what you said borders on a personal attack. A lot of the advice we, regs, give is very black and white also. (cash bars are never okay, potlucks are bad, PPDS are bad, dolar dances are tacky, etc) So I find your what your saying to be hypocritical.

And no she doesnt learn anything. Her opinion is just as valid as yours is. If you dont like the way she posts, then block her.

CMGr's rules are a bit too rigid for me also. But that doesnt make them wrong.

I'm sorry but I think that is excessive.  So Jenna can't have an opinion about CMGrs views on weddings?  Are you kidding me?

KatWAG

Sorry had to break to chain.

Of course Jenna can have an opinion. But there definately was a more tactful way to go about than calling CMG out as "consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings.' My opinion is that it was uncalled for and mean.

jenna8984

chibiyui said:

jenna8984 said:

We always tell people if your bridesmaids shoes and hair don't match, your wedding is still valid. So same applies here- if your groom is wearing pink socks or shoes, your wedding is still valid. So it's not wrong.

I think everyone is in agreement that the only crime committed here is one against fashion, I just thought your response was excessive. Thats all. 

Here, have some kittens!

 

**SITB**

That was my point- is that CMG treats these things as if they ARE crimes which is too rigid in my opinion. I don't want the OP thinking she has done something wrong, when she hasn't.

KatWAG

jenna8984 said:

chibiyui said:

jenna8984 said:

We always tell people if your bridesmaids shoes and hair don't match, your wedding is still valid. So same applies here- if your groom is wearing pink socks or shoes, your wedding is still valid. So it's not wrong.

I think everyone is in agreement that the only crime committed here is one against fashion, I just thought your response was excessive. Thats all. 

Here, have some kittens!

 

**SITB**

That was my point- is that CMG treats these things as if they ARE crimes which is too rigid in my opinion. I don't want the OP thinking she has done something wrong, when she hasn't.

I dont think you have to worry about the OP thinking she has done something wrong. First she hasnt come back to the thread. And second there 45+ other post making other suggestions. CMG is clearly in the minortiy.

Maggie0829

KatWAG said:

Sorry had to break to chain.

Of course Jenna can have an opinion. But there definately was a more tactful way to go about than calling CMG out as "consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings.' My opinion is that it was uncalled for and mean.

And I think that this place is about 7 feet deep in sugar.  I mean if what Jenna said is now considered uncalled for and mean and pushing on a personal attack then those responses that tell the OP that she is acting bitchy or acting crazy or acting insane should also be considered uncalled for, mean and pushing on a personal attack.  Because saying "acting" is the same as saying that someone one is rigid and uptight when it comes to weddings.  You are basically saying that that person really isn't uptight and crazy in general but only when it comes to colored socks and tuxes.

KatWAG

Maggie0829 said:

KatWAG said:

Sorry had to break to chain.

Of course Jenna can have an opinion. But there definately was a more tactful way to go about than calling CMG out as "consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings.' My opinion is that it was uncalled for and mean.

And I think that this place is about 7 feet deep in sugar.  I mean if what Jenna said is now considered uncalled for and mean and pushing on a personal attack then those responses that tell the OP that she is acting bitchy or acting crazy or acting insane should also be considered uncalled for, mean and pushing on a personal attack.  Because saying "acting" is the same as saying that someone one is rigid and uptight when it comes to weddings.  You are basically saying that that person really isn't uptight and crazy in general but only when it comes to colored socks and tuxes.

Jenna never said CMG is "acting" rigid, uptight, etc.  She used the definative. Jenna said "you are." Big difference.

Maggie0829

KatWAG said:

Maggie0829 said:

KatWAG said:

Sorry had to break to chain.

Of course Jenna can have an opinion. But there definately was a more tactful way to go about than calling CMG out as "consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings.' My opinion is that it was uncalled for and mean.

And I think that this place is about 7 feet deep in sugar.  I mean if what Jenna said is now considered uncalled for and mean and pushing on a personal attack then those responses that tell the OP that she is acting bitchy or acting crazy or acting insane should also be considered uncalled for, mean and pushing on a personal attack.  Because saying "acting" is the same as saying that someone one is rigid and uptight when it comes to weddings.  You are basically saying that that person really isn't uptight and crazy in general but only when it comes to colored socks and tuxes.

Jenna never said CMG is "acting" rigid, uptight, etc.  She used the definative. Jenna said "you are." Big difference.

She said that CMGr is rigid and uptight and un-fun when it comes to weddings.  She didn't say that CMGr is a rigid and uptight and un-fun person in all aspects of her life.  Which to me is just like saying someone is "acting like a..."

KatWAG

Maggie0829 said:

KatWAG said:

Maggie0829 said:

KatWAG said:

Sorry had to break to chain.

Of course Jenna can have an opinion. But there definately was a more tactful way to go about than calling CMG out as "consistently the most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings.' My opinion is that it was uncalled for and mean.

And I think that this place is about 7 feet deep in sugar.  I mean if what Jenna said is now considered uncalled for and mean and pushing on a personal attack then those responses that tell the OP that she is acting bitchy or acting crazy or acting insane should also be considered uncalled for, mean and pushing on a personal attack.  Because saying "acting" is the same as saying that someone one is rigid and uptight when it comes to weddings.  You are basically saying that that person really isn't uptight and crazy in general but only when it comes to colored socks and tuxes.

Jenna never said CMG is "acting" rigid, uptight, etc.  She used the definative. Jenna said "you are." Big difference.

She said that CMGr is rigid and uptight and un-fun when it comes to weddings.  She didn't say that CMGr is a rigid and uptight and un-fun person in all aspects of her life.  Which to me is just like saying someone is "acting like a..."

We are going to have to agree to disagree because I dont think you can draw that line.

CMGragain

This is a free country, and you can break all the rules you want to, as long as you are prepared to deal with the consequences - criticism and being side-eyed by your guests.  (Don't tell me that your guests won't criticize you!  I have been to many weddings, and have heard all the nasty murmuring.)
Thank you for the kind words, ladies.  I don't expect everyone to agree with me.  SOMEBODY has to follow the rules, and it is good if a bride knows what they are before deciding to break them.  By the way, I don't make up these rules.  They are not "my rules".  That is why I always post a source for the tuxedo rules.
Oh,incidentally.  I don't particularly like all of you, either, but it would be rude to insult someone, personally, on an open internet forum.   JMHO.

doeydo

@CMGragain is old school, and I like that about her.  I like that she reminds us about attire etiquette and other stuff like that.  Of course OP and her FI can wear whatever colour socks they want, but the fact remains that the weird socks is probably a fad (like the coloured suits and ruffley shirts were), the one picture people always take with the socks make me roll my eyes, and when a pairs of pants, socks, and shoes are all similar colours it is more flattering to the leg line (ie. when you are sitting there with your legs crossed you do indeed see the socks).  

You can disagree all you want, but saying that a user is "consistently [the] most rigid, uptight, and un-fun person in the universe of weddings" could be interpreted as a personal attack.  You were not disagreeing with her opinion, but called her out in a post just to say that she is sucky.  Fuck that.  

KatWAG

CMGragain said:

This is a free country, and you can break all the rules you want to, as long as you are prepared to deal with the consequences - criticism and being side-eyed by your guests.  (Don't tell me that your guests won't criticize you!  I have been to many weddings, and have heard all the nasty murmuring.)
Thank you for the kind words, ladies.  I don't expect everyone to agree with me.  SOMEBODY has to follow the rules, and it is good if a bride knows what they are before deciding to break them.  By the way, I don't make up these rules.  They are not "my rules".  That is why I always post a source for the tuxedo rules.
Oh,incidentally.  I don't particularly like all of you, either, but it would be rude to insult someone, personally, on an open internet forum.   JMHO.

Wait, so you mean we arent one big, TK happy family? I am SHOCKED!

CMGragain

At my wedding in 1976, my FI wore a ruffled shirt!  (Gasp!)  At least he wore a black tux, not a pink one.  (Yes, they had them.)

Can't play anymore.  I have to decorate the Christmas tree for DH's astronomy party tonight.

MairePoppy

I don't really care if someone wears a tux in the afternoon and pink ties, shoes etc..to match the bms. I think tuxes are silly looking, even if they adhere to the strict rules of black tie dressing. Even on James Bond.

My groom, my dad and the men in my wedding party wore brown tuxes and ruffled shirts. Hey it was the 1970's, live and let live. I cringe when I look at those pictures. My children laugh. Those are the consequences I suffer

chibiyui

MairePoppy said:

I don't really care if someone wears a tux in the afternoon and pink ties, shoes etc..to match the bms. I think tuxes are silly looking, even if they adhere to the strict rules of black tie dressing. Even on James Bond.

My groom, my dad and the men in my wedding party wore brown tuxes and ruffled shirts. Hey it was the 1970's, live and let live. I cringe when I look at those pictures. My children laugh. Those are the consequences I suffer

Imma take this moment to soap box, Dudes. If your name isn't "Roger Moore" don't wear a white tux. You look stupid.

By the way, my HS boyfriend totally wore a white tux, with a mandarian collar to our senior prom. Yes, he looked really dumb.

hellohkb

MairePoppy said:

I don't really care if someone wears a tux in the afternoon and pink ties, shoes etc..to match the bms. I think tuxes are silly looking, even if they adhere to the strict rules of black tie dressing. Even on James Bond.

My groom, my dad and the men in my wedding party wore brown tuxes and ruffled shirts. Hey it was the 1970's, live and let live. I cringe when I look at those pictures. My children laugh. Those are the consequences I suffer

My entire wedding planning process so far has been basically me wondering what my future children will laugh at!

CMGragain

Hey, what about those ridiculous sideburns on the men?  My kids laugh and say "Oh my God, Dad had HAIR!"

@MairePoppy, if tuxedos were bad in the 1970s, men's suits were worse!  Remember the polyester double knit with bell bottoms?  My DH had a raspberry pink leisure suit!  Ugh!

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MairePoppy

@CMGragain Yes, I do. My MIL saved DH's  plaid bell bottom suits c1960 - 1970. She surprised us once and had all those suits dry cleaned and brought them over to my house. I thanked her and told her 'You shouldn't have.' I really meant that   I was then treated to a long lecture from this very frugal lady about my wasteful ways. I'll always have the satisfaction of knowing she was the one who wasted all that money on dry cleaning.

My favorite uncle, who is also my Godfather, wore a blue leisure suit to my wedding. My BIL wore checked pants that were too long. The bms wore qianna knit dresses in various (not matching) pastel colors, white platform shoes of their choice, perfect for swirling to the live band trying to play awful, awful disco music. There's plenty of comedy material in my wedding album. But hey, we hosted properly with dinner at 3p.m. and a full open bar.

MairePoppy

@chibiyui - my husband has seen all the James Bond movies, fifty time each. He fantasizes about wearing a white tux. He was so disappointed when my daughter and her husband didn't ask the men to rent tuxes for their wedding. He was going to surprise her by renting a white one!!!! We like to cruise. I might surprise him and rent a white tux for him on our next cruise in March. You should see the formal wear atrocities that are committed on formal night. Plus, we'll never see any of those people again.

A little eye candy for you:

CMGragain

White dinner jackets are only for summer wear, except in tropical climates.  My DH wore one for prom, too!  When I think of tuxedos I picture Cary Grant or Sean Connery (a younger version).  Yum!  I don't think they would have worn pink socks, ever!

MairePoppy

It's a Caribbean cruise so we're good on the white dinner jacket. LOL But honestly, I've seen men with their bellies popping out their jackets, ruffles and amusing accessories.

doeydo

I think Jared Leto can work a white jacket:

And then there's Randy Fenoli:

Question for @CMGragain or anyone who knows, do the rules about a tuxedo and other "menswear" change at all for when the person wearing it identifies as female?  

Kind of what I mean: