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ashley8918

sophhabobopha said:

ashley8918 said:

holyguacamole79 said:

I once heard of a dog that was a cross between a shih tzu and a dalmation. They referred to the dog as a shitmation. I think this thread just needed some humor.

I have a dachshund aka weiner dog-pitbull mix. I like to call him my peiner.

holyguacamole79 When I was a kid I thought shih tzu was a curse word.

Yaaaaaas gurl. Peiner life.

People who have never met him are ususally pretty taken aback when I talk about my peiner. "Yesterday, I was snuggling my peiner..."

sophhabobopha

ashley8918 said:

sophhabobopha said:

ashley8918 said:

holyguacamole79 said:

I once heard of a dog that was a cross between a shih tzu and a dalmation. They referred to the dog as a shitmation. I think this thread just needed some humor.

I have a dachshund aka weiner dog-pitbull mix. I like to call him my peiner.

holyguacamole79 When I was a kid I thought shih tzu was a curse word.

Yaaaaaas gurl. Peiner life.

People who have never met him are ususally pretty taken aback when I talk about my peiner. "Yesterday, I was snuggling my peiner..."

Is his name Willy Johnson?

ashley8918

sophhabobopha said:

ashley8918 said:

sophhabobopha said:

ashley8918 said:

holyguacamole79 said:

I once heard of a dog that was a cross between a shih tzu and a dalmation. They referred to the dog as a shitmation. I think this thread just needed some humor.

I have a dachshund aka weiner dog-pitbull mix. I like to call him my peiner.

holyguacamole79 When I was a kid I thought shih tzu was a curse word.

Yaaaaaas gurl. Peiner life.

People who have never met him are ususally pretty taken aback when I talk about my peiner. "Yesterday, I was snuggling my peiner..."

Is his name Willy Johnson?

Sadly, H wouldn't go for it. Nor did he allow me to name him Biggie Smalls. We compromised on Frankie, like a hot dog.

sophhabobopha

ashley8918 said:

sophhabobopha said:

ashley8918 said:

sophhabobopha said:

ashley8918 said:

holyguacamole79 said:

I once heard of a dog that was a cross between a shih tzu and a dalmation. They referred to the dog as a shitmation. I think this thread just needed some humor.

I have a dachshund aka weiner dog-pitbull mix. I like to call him my peiner.

holyguacamole79 When I was a kid I thought shih tzu was a curse word.

Yaaaaaas gurl. Peiner life.

People who have never met him are ususally pretty taken aback when I talk about my peiner. "Yesterday, I was snuggling my peiner..."

Is his name Willy Johnson?

Sadly, H wouldn't go for it. Nor did he allow me to name him Biggie Smalls. We compromised on Frankie, like a hot dog.

That's still a super cute name!

raissyrais

Or Willie Wang. He's sooooo cute! 

carrie0924

I am a crazy dog person. I am pro ethical breeding. I am not anti rescue or anti shelter. I am not anti intentional mixed breeds. HOWEVER, in order to justify intentionally breeding a dog, I feel the following qualifications must be met:

1) If you are breeding purebreds, have a thorough understanding of the breed. Temperament, health, etc.
2) Do breed specific health testing. Not vet checks. Breeds that are prone to hip dysplasia should have certified x-rays. Breeds that have genetic diseases should have DNA tests done for those specific diseases. If a breeder does testing, all results will be public at www.offa.org. If a breeder does not have health results available publicly, they are hiding something/not doing something right.
3) Have a REASON you are breeding that dog, along with a reasonable goal of what to expect. Throwing two random breeds together is not responsible. If you breed the same lab and the same poodle together multiple times, you will not get the same puppies every time. You will have a wide variance within any given litter. Purebreds exist because you know what to expect. Two labs bred together will have reasonably predictable puppies as far as looks and personality. Here's a link to an article written about the creator of the labradoodle and how he regrets it: http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/214553/labradoodle-inventor-full-of-regret-is-now-like-the-oppenheimer-of-dog-inventors/
4) a good breeder does home screening. Won't give just anybody a pup. Will tell some people that their specific breed isn't for them. And a good breeder will guarantee a home for the lifetime of any dog they breed. If I die and my fiance cannot keep my dogs, my purebred dogs have a home at the breeder's house. She will keep them, together, until she can find them a new home, together, or at her house until they die.
5) A good breeder is a lifetime resource for owners. I can call the woman who bred my dogs, anytime, night or day, email, whatever and she will answer questions, help me calm down if I'm freaking out because my dog is sick, etc. She's also a fantastic resource because she's been breeding this breed for 20 years. She knows the complete health history of my dogs' ancestors.
6) Shelters & rescues are a necessary evil. As long as there are people out there breeding dogs for profit, there will be a need for shelters. Shelters are dumping grounds for the dogs that don't sell. Likewise, people who get a puppy and don't fully understand the challenges of raising it, and don't have a mentor/breeder to help them get through the tough puppy challenges, dump in shelters. So while it is fantastic to help a dog in need, adopting one dog from a shelter does not solve the actual issue.

So not to rain on OP's parade. If these dogs are responsibly bred, if the breeder does the necessary health testing before breeding his animals, if he guarantees to help mentor you through the tough times, if he guarantees a lifetime home for your dog if something should happen to you, then by all means, go for it. Every modern breed was created, at some point in history, by breeding other breeds together. But unless this "breeder" has a reason (the drive of the husky with the obedience of a GD) and gets consistent results, be wary. Huskies tend to be very "What's in it for me", stubborn, high drive, high energy. GDs tend to be obedient but need guidance. just randomly slapping them together because they make a cute mix is a recipe for disaster. Especially because a mix like that is often going to end up in a shelter when it hits 9 months old. Ask your friend if he knows where every puppy he's ever bred is. If he doesn't, scour the shelters. You'll probably find his 2 & 3 years there.

carrie0924

Also wanted to address the myth of hybrid vigor... mixed breeds are not healthier than pure breds. If you are breeding correctly, you are health testing the breeding stock, so you can avoid diseases. If you are doing it wrong and not health testing, it doesn't matter if you breed purebreds or mixed breeds. Sick dog + sick dog = sick puppy.

sophhabobopha

carrie0924 said:

I am a crazy dog person. I am pro ethical breeding. I am not anti rescue or anti shelter. I am not anti intentional mixed breeds. HOWEVER, in order to justify intentionally breeding a dog, I feel the following qualifications must be met:

1) If you are breeding purebreds, have a thorough understanding of the breed. Temperament, health, etc.
2) Do breed specific health testing. Not vet checks. Breeds that are prone to hip dysplasia should have certified x-rays. Breeds that have genetic diseases should have DNA tests done for those specific diseases. If a breeder does testing, all results will be public at www.offa.org. If a breeder does not have health results available publicly, they are hiding something/not doing something right.
3) Have a REASON you are breeding that dog, along with a reasonable goal of what to expect. Throwing two random breeds together is not responsible. If you breed the same lab and the same poodle together multiple times, you will not get the same puppies every time. You will have a wide variance within any given litter. Purebreds exist because you know what to expect. Two labs bred together will have reasonably predictable puppies as far as looks and personality. Here's a link to an article written about the creator of the labradoodle and how he regrets it: http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/214553/labradoodle-inventor-full-of-regret-is-now-like-the-oppenheimer-of-dog-inventors/
4) a good breeder does home screening. Won't give just anybody a pup. Will tell some people that their specific breed isn't for them. And a good breeder will guarantee a home for the lifetime of any dog they breed. If I die and my fiance cannot keep my dogs, my purebred dogs have a home at the breeder's house. She will keep them, together, until she can find them a new home, together, or at her house until they die.
5) A good breeder is a lifetime resource for owners. I can call the woman who bred my dogs, anytime, night or day, email, whatever and she will answer questions, help me calm down if I'm freaking out because my dog is sick, etc. She's also a fantastic resource because she's been breeding this breed for 20 years. She knows the complete health history of my dogs' ancestors.
6) Shelters & rescues are a necessary evil. As long as there are people out there breeding dogs for profit, there will be a need for shelters. Shelters are dumping grounds for the dogs that don't sell. Likewise, people who get a puppy and don't fully understand the challenges of raising it, and don't have a mentor/breeder to help them get through the tough puppy challenges, dump in shelters. So while it is fantastic to help a dog in need, adopting one dog from a shelter does not solve the actual issue.

So not to rain on OP's parade. If these dogs are responsibly bred, if the breeder does the necessary health testing before breeding his animals, if he guarantees to help mentor you through the tough times, if he guarantees a lifetime home for your dog if something should happen to you, then by all means, go for it. Every modern breed was created, at some point in history, by breeding other breeds together. But unless this "breeder" has a reason (the drive of the husky with the obedience of a GD) and gets consistent results, be wary. Huskies tend to be very "What's in it for me", stubborn, high drive, high energy. GDs tend to be obedient but need guidance. just randomly slapping them together because they make a cute mix is a recipe for disaster. Especially because a mix like that is often going to end up in a shelter when it hits 9 months old. Ask your friend if he knows where every puppy he's ever bred is. If he doesn't, scour the shelters. You'll probably find his 2 & 3 years there.

Completly agree with you. And, she does.