So apparently i'm a snooty runner. Ahh!

thisismynickname2

lolo883 said: thisismynickname said:Not knowing the race or how it was advertised, OP has a point. 
I refuse to enter fun runs after a bad experience at the Chase Corporate 5k. I, too, am competitive and if a race isn't chip timed, I won't even enter.  
What I have seen is even when a race has the time markers at the start line (6 min mile, 7 min mile, 8 min mile... all the way to 10 or 11), that slower runners will line up at the 7-8 minute pace so they can run with friends. That's what I have an issue with, and why the CC5k I did was a clusterfuck I refuse to ever enter again. 
While we can certainly say, and races can certainly try, to have serious competitors line up at the front, less competitive runners have a duty to be honest about their abilities and not get in the way of the faster people. Running Etiquette 101. 
If people line up near the front and still trip over people stopping and taking selfies, that's a huge issue. But, again, we don't know what OP's race was, if it was advertised as a fun run or a USTA-certified 5k with chip times and waves. 
I love running because it's for people of all abilities, but people of all abilities have to adhere to race etiquette. Seriously. 
Signed,Snobby runner.

Unless you're running through a 2-wide tunnel or people are trying to play Red Rover mid-race, you can still go to someone's left. There's probably room. 
Or make it a full track & field experience and bust out a high jump.  

I do appreciate the red rover reference and the track and field humor.  But in all seriousness, I've run races on wide city streets and on narrower paths. I've done city runs and runs out in the country where I can barely see the lone person ahead of me. Sometimes, even runner-friends two-across can cause issues on a narrow path. You get these big running groups all out together in bigger races. When I have to go around someone, I'm also looking behind me for someone trying to pass me as well as the people ahead of me. I'm looking sideways at someone passing people in front of them. It's like highway driving in rush hour, honestly. So, yeah, the more popular the race, the more that bunching and stopping can be a real hindrance to people trying to keep a fast pace. Especially in a 5k, for someone aiming for a PR, every second does count. So I sympathize with OP. 

redoryx

thisismynickname said:

Not knowing the race or how it was advertised, OP has a point. 

I refuse to enter fun runs after a bad experience at the Chase Corporate 5k. I, too, am competitive and if a race isn't chip timed, I won't even enter.  

What I have seen is even when a race has the time markers at the start line (6 min mile, 7 min mile, 8 min mile... all the way to 10 or 11), that slower runners will line up at the 7-8 minute pace so they can run with friends. That's what I have an issue with, and why the CC5k I did was a clusterfuck I refuse to ever enter again. 

While we can certainly say, and races can certainly try, to have serious competitors line up at the front, less competitive runners have a duty to be honest about their abilities and not get in the way of the faster people. Running Etiquette 101. 

If people line up near the front and still trip over people stopping and taking selfies, that's a huge issue. But, again, we don't know what OP's race was, if it was advertised as a fun run or a USTA-certified 5k with chip times and waves. 

I love running because it's for people of all abilities, but people of all abilities have to adhere to race etiquette. Seriously. 

Signed,

Snobby runner.

I have never seen waves at a 5K, even chip timed ones, and only at one 10K but that's because it was a HUGE race with like 20,000 people so they did it mostly for organizational purposes. 

I do agree, though, that if there are waves or corrals than people need to be honest (to themselves) about their abilities. 

Also, I'd like to point out that being a slower runner doesn't make me less competitive. All it does is make me less fast. I'm running my third half this Sunday and I have a chance to PR and you bet your ass I'm going to pound that pavement to get that PR. That said, it's still going to take me over 3 hours and my only competition is really with myself, but that still counts.

theartistformerlyknownas

redoryx said:

Not knowing the race or how it was advertised, OP has a point. 

I refuse to enter fun runs after a bad experience at the Chase Corporate 5k. I, too, am competitive and if a race isn't chip timed, I won't even enter.  

What I have seen is even when a race has the time markers at the start line (6 min mile, 7 min mile, 8 min mile... all the way to 10 or 11), that slower runners will line up at the 7-8 minute pace so they can run with friends. That's what I have an issue with, and why the CC5k I did was a clusterfuck I refuse to ever enter again. 

While we can certainly say, and races can certainly try, to have serious competitors line up at the front, less competitive runners have a duty to be honest about their abilities and not get in the way of the faster people. Running Etiquette 101. 

If people line up near the front and still trip over people stopping and taking selfies, that's a huge issue. But, again, we don't know what OP's race was, if it was advertised as a fun run or a USTA-certified 5k with chip times and waves. 

I love running because it's for people of all abilities, but people of all abilities have to adhere to race etiquette. Seriously. 

Signed,

Snobby runner.

I have never seen waves at a 5K and only at one 10K but that's because it was a HUGE race with like 20,000 people so they did it mostly for organizational purposes. 

I do agree, though, that if there are waves or corrals than people need to be honest (to themselves) about their abilities. 

Also, I'd like to point out that being a slower runner doesn't make me less competitive. All it does is make me less fast. I'm running my third half this Sunday and I have a chance to PR and you bet your ass I'm going to pound that pavement to get that PR. That said, it's still going to take me over 3 hours and my only competition is really with myself, but that still counts.

Word. A 40 minute PR for a 5k is still a record. Maybe it just means 3 selfies instead of 5.

thisismynickname2

redoryx said:

thisismynickname said:

Not knowing the race or how it was advertised, OP has a point. 

I refuse to enter fun runs after a bad experience at the Chase Corporate 5k. I, too, am competitive and if a race isn't chip timed, I won't even enter.  

What I have seen is even when a race has the time markers at the start line (6 min mile, 7 min mile, 8 min mile... all the way to 10 or 11), that slower runners will line up at the 7-8 minute pace so they can run with friends. That's what I have an issue with, and why the CC5k I did was a clusterfuck I refuse to ever enter again. 

While we can certainly say, and races can certainly try, to have serious competitors line up at the front, less competitive runners have a duty to be honest about their abilities and not get in the way of the faster people. Running Etiquette 101. 

If people line up near the front and still trip over people stopping and taking selfies, that's a huge issue. But, again, we don't know what OP's race was, if it was advertised as a fun run or a USTA-certified 5k with chip times and waves. 

I love running because it's for people of all abilities, but people of all abilities have to adhere to race etiquette. Seriously. 

Signed,

Snobby runner.

I have never seen waves at a 5K, even chip timed ones, and only at one 10K but that's because it was a HUGE race with like 20,000 people so they did it mostly for organizational purposes. 

I do agree, though, that if there are waves or corrals than people need to be honest (to themselves) about their abilities. 

Also, I'd like to point out that being a slower runner doesn't make me less competitive. All it does is make me less fast. I'm running my third half this Sunday and I have a chance to PR and you bet your ass I'm going to pound that pavement to get that PR. That said, it's still going to take me over 3 hours and my only competition is really with myself, but that still counts.

You are absolutely right, my bad. 

VulgarGirl

Remind me not to do any 5K ever for any reason at all. One because running seems kind of pointless if there isn't an ax murder behind me and a naked Evan Rachel Wood in front of me. And two I had no idea one could be super serious and competitive about running around on a Saturday morning. If I run too fast, I'll spill my bloody mary. 

PrettyGirlLost

cupcait927 said:

I don't think your comment was snooty at all. It's a safety issue, more than anything else. It's fine if you want to walk, take your time - any level of participation is great. However, they need to be mindful of people who are running and want to do the very best they can. H is an avid runner and he's still shooting for a sub 20 minute 5k. If he had to dodge around every person who just randomly stopped in the middle of the course, he'd never get there and would get understandably frustrated.  So train on a treadmill?  Plus it's dangerous - if a mom had her baby in a stroller out there and decided to whip around to talk to someone, someone running could trip or fall over the stroller.  Which is why any 5K I have ever participated in or known ppl who participated in stagger their start times- the "runners" are queued at the front of the lne and they actually start 1st, followed by the rest of us.

 

@peachy13 I don't think saying that people who get serious and intense over a 5k need to calm down is a fair statement. Like I said, H is a runner. It's his thing and he has a certain goal in mind for himself. There's only so many 5ks in a season and he shouldn't be stopped from trying to reach that goal just because other people on the course are more laid-back about it. These runs are for people of all levels and he respects that but at the same time, he wants to be able to achieve his goals as well.  And he can't do that outside of an official 5K?  He can't go running on his own and time himself?

theartistformerlyknownas

I wish I could link y'all the video of my 2-year old niece at a Star Wars fun run over the weekend. S made her an R2D2 outfit complete with blue tutu, and she was swinging a pool noodle light saber at people. It was fantastic. S wore a gold C3PO tank top and tutu, BIL was Obi Wan Kenobi, and 4 yo nephew was Darth Vader with neon green sunglasses. Personal record in cuteness right there.

thisismynickname2

MagicInk said:

Remind me not to do any 5K ever for any reason at all. One because running seems kind of pointless if there isn't an ax murder behind me and a naked Evan Rachel Wood in front of me. And two I had no idea one could be super serious and competitive about running around on a Saturday morning. If I run too fast, I'll spill my bloody mary. 

Well... I own a "Will Run for Chocolate" coffee mug and am doing another 5k called "Chardonnay 5k".... my incentives are pretty clear ;-) 

PrettyGirlLost

ashley8918 said:

lacqueredlover said:

Seriously though just get there early so you can be at the start of the line and run without other people in your way.  Problem solved.

Yes, exactly. Even if there are no official "waves", just get there early and get your ass up to the front. 

How hardcore or competitive of a runner can you really be if you AREN'T already getting up at the ass crack of dawn to run in these things?

kvruns

I think it depends on the race . There are runs that are definitely more "fun run" than race, and in those I don't expect to try to get a PR.  In ones with timing chips I see it more of a race although that doesn't mean you wont get behind someone walking.  The biggest thing is just where people line up, so if you want to run and you're all the way in the back, ya you're going to have trouble getting around people.  But if you're planning to run, line up closer to the start - but not right in the front unless you're planning on winning it. 

I'm not sure I'd call you a snooty runner based on that, you're just someone who wanted to run it for more than just a social event.  nothing wrong with that. next time just see if you can line up a bit closer to the front (though that's no guarantee of avoiding walkers)

kvruns

flutteringinfl said:

lolo883 said:

Sorry not sorry, I would have called you snooty too. Either run races that start in waves so the faster/more serious runners start first, or realize that the majority of people are going to see it as a "fun run" and not realize there are people who take it that seriously. 

There's one 5k I run every year (and I use the term "run" VERY loosely here). It's timed, but the walkers don't get chips and are asked to start in a wave after the runners. There are no official waves, but the fast people know to start at the beginning. My friends and I start near the end, just before the walker. I give nonefucks about being in the way of people who are so clueless to have started behind me. 

This. The existence or lack of corrals would indicate to me the "culture" of the race. Also, just say, "Excuse me," a lot. Not trying to be obnoxious, but isn't that proper race etiquette if someone is blocking your way and being slow?

There is a big local race here on Thanksgiving morning, they have corrals for certain times with designated stickers for those corrals, and then have pace signs where people are supposed to line up based on expected pace.  We always end up with the special sticker for the "fast" corral, but every year still end up with people walking within the first 1/4 mile in front of us and I'm surprised no one has gotten hurt because you have people going through the start at 8 min pace (where I am) and you have people coming to a dead stop in the middle of the road or walking 4 across.  So while the race has implemented corrals it doesn't completely prevent walkers from lining up way ahead of where they plan to be pace-wise. I have re-set my expectations for that and I know I'm going to have to dodge walkers at the start, so it still makes me mad but it isn't ruining it or anything.

KatieinBkln

PrettyGirlLost said:

cupcait927 said:

I don't think your comment was snooty at all. It's a safety issue, more than anything else. It's fine if you want to walk, take your time - any level of participation is great. However, they need to be mindful of people who are running and want to do the very best they can. H is an avid runner and he's still shooting for a sub 20 minute 5k. If he had to dodge around every person who just randomly stopped in the middle of the course, he'd never get there and would get understandably frustrated.  So train on a treadmill?  Plus it's dangerous - if a mom had her baby in a stroller out there and decided to whip around to talk to someone, someone running could trip or fall over the stroller.  Which is why any 5K I have ever participated in or known ppl who participated in stagger their start times- the "runners" are queued at the front of the lne and they actually start 1st, followed by the rest of us.

 

@peachy13 I don't think saying that people who get serious and intense over a 5k need to calm down is a fair statement. Like I said, H is a runner. It's his thing and he has a certain goal in mind for himself. There's only so many 5ks in a season and he shouldn't be stopped from trying to reach that goal just because other people on the course are more laid-back about it. These runs are for people of all levels and he respects that but at the same time, he wants to be able to achieve his goals as well.  And he can't do that outside of an official 5K?  He can't go running on his own and time himself?

Ok, I'm not a runner at all really (just a half-assed triathlete) but I have to defend against "just go run by yourself" and "train on a treadmill." Those two things are miles away from the actual experience of running a race. The adrenaline, the rush of the crowd, the weather and the nature of the course--all of these things contribute to the experience of running, and they simply can't be repeated outside of a race environment. If you never "practice" racing, you'll never improve during the big races that count the most.

I'm not saying serious runners don't need to be polite or that they shouldn't (probably) focus on more "serious" races rather than exclusively the "fun" ones (no serious runner I've ever heard of has "trained" at a Color Run, however). But treadmills/stationary bikes/pools are no substitute for the real thing.

Pretty sure people can obey the law of Don't Be A Dick on all sides of the serious/fun spectrum of the sport. Neither person should have to give up what it is that they're there for (a great time with friends/family OR a PR uninhibited by inconsiderate people). There should be room for everyone, including the serious athletes.

lovegood90

yogapants said:

He probably called you snooty because you said you were annoyed that non-runners showed up. I'd roll my eyes at you too.

Yeah, 95% of the reason I never got into running is because attitudes like this just put me off the whole thing. No need to intimidate/put yourself above others like that.

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cupcait927

KatieinBkln said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

cupcait927 said:

I don't think your comment was snooty at all. It's a safety issue, more than anything else. It's fine if you want to walk, take your time - any level of participation is great. However, they need to be mindful of people who are running and want to do the very best they can. H is an avid runner and he's still shooting for a sub 20 minute 5k. If he had to dodge around every person who just randomly stopped in the middle of the course, he'd never get there and would get understandably frustrated.  So train on a treadmill?  Plus it's dangerous - if a mom had her baby in a stroller out there and decided to whip around to talk to someone, someone running could trip or fall over the stroller.  Which is why any 5K I have ever participated in or known ppl who participated in stagger their start times- the "runners" are queued at the front of the lne and they actually start 1st, followed by the rest of us.

 

@peachy13 I don't think saying that people who get serious and intense over a 5k need to calm down is a fair statement. Like I said, H is a runner. It's his thing and he has a certain goal in mind for himself. There's only so many 5ks in a season and he shouldn't be stopped from trying to reach that goal just because other people on the course are more laid-back about it. These runs are for people of all levels and he respects that but at the same time, he wants to be able to achieve his goals as well.  And he can't do that outside of an official 5K?  He can't go running on his own and time himself?

Ok, I'm not a runner at all really (just a half-assed triathlete) but I have to defend against "just go run by yourself" and "train on a treadmill." Those two things are miles away from the actual experience of running a race. The adrenaline, the rush of the crowd, the weather and the nature of the course--all of these things contribute to the experience of running, and they simply can't be repeated outside of a race environment. If you never "practice" racing, you'll never improve during the big races that count the most.

I'm not saying serious runners don't need to be polite or that they shouldn't (probably) focus on more "serious" races rather than exclusively the "fun" ones (no serious runner I've ever heard of has "trained" at a Color Run, however). But treadmills/stationary bikes/pools are no substitute for the real thing.

Pretty sure people can obey the law of Don't Be A Dick on all sides of the serious/fun spectrum of the sport. Neither person should have to give up what it is that they're there for (a great time with friends/family OR a PR uninhibited by inconsiderate people). There should be room for everyone, including the serious athletes.

Thank you. That's exactly the point I was trying to make and you summed it up in one sentence. H is about the most polite person on the planet and would never make anyone feel like an ass during race, no matter if they're running, walking or standing around taking selfies. But that doesn't mean he's not frustrated. Like @KatieinBkln said, there should be room for everyone. We don't do the "fun" 5ks (like the Color Run or the blacklight runs), but we do run community 5ks because H doesn't feel like trekking all over the state for the more serious races all the time. So does that mean that he shouldn't be allowed to go for a PR because it's not a "serious" race and people just want to have fun out there? So he doesn't get the same opportunity, even though he paid the same fee for the race and trained for it?

 

And running on the treadmill is nowhere NEAR the same as road racing. He effing hates the treadmill because it's boring as fuck. And timing yourself isn't the same as running a race on adrenaline and competing against other people. People who run competitively thrive off of the adrenaline and knowing that you're running faster than you ever have and it means something.

kaos16

lovegood90 said:

yogapants said:

He probably called you snooty because you said you were annoyed that non-runners showed up. I'd roll my eyes at you too.

Yeah, 95% of the reason I never got into running is because attitudes like this just put me off the whole thing. No need to intimidate/put yourself above others like that.

He's a marathoner, which is why I used the term.  I thought I explained in my OP that I was referring to people who were taking selfies and stopping to chat and whatnot.  Again, I think it's great if anyone is out there getting physical activity.  I am all for people walking a 5k, running it, or a bit of both. . . . I just get frustrated when people don't pay attention to the whereabouts of those around them, or understand that some people are trying to run it for a personal best time.

peachy13

pinkrevenge said:

I'm just now learning that you don't have to run at a 5k run.
You mean I could have power walked / intermitedly jogged the electric color 5k this weekend?? Fuck, I would have done that!


I fucking hate running.

Me too. Hate it. Love 5ks though. And by "5ks" I mean "the thing where I jog/walk with friends for 40 minutes and then get rewarded with beer and a tee shirt."

sarahufl

peachy13 said:

pinkrevenge said:

I'm just now learning that you don't have to run at a 5k run.
You mean I could have power walked / intermitedly jogged the electric color 5k this weekend?? Fuck, I would have done that!


I fucking hate running.

Me too. Hate it. Love 5ks though. And by "5ks" I mean "the thing where I jog/walk with friends for 40 minutes and then get rewarded with beer and a tee shirt."

I don't even do that. I just meet them at the end.

hellosweetie1015

I don't get running. Like, I get it in life-or-death situations or when there's something fantastic to get to (I believe I ran part of the way to the Wizarding World, for instance) but going out at the asscrack of dawn on a Saturday just to get all hot and sweaty and gross, and then getting a lousy t-shirt for your effort? Fuck that.

Clearly I'm a snooty non-runner. 

Y'all have fun with your running. I'll be well out of your way, on my couch or in my kitchen or on my back porch, not-running.

lovemesomemonster

I run for beer and cake.. I hate running, I don't get the whole "runner's high" or any kind of enjoyment you can find out of it. Basically I just want to drink my beer and still be able to fit in my pants because pants are expensive and I hate shopping for them.

falsara

I run, but I don't do 5K's because I don't think they're always worth it.  Running on a treadmill is no where near the same as running outside, on varied terrain, with wind, and other variable factors. A treadmill does not help you train the same way an outside run does.  

 I mentally have a hard time on treadmills because it's so boring.  Lots of runners would much rather run outside where there are things that take the mind off that actual distance.  It's much more interesting.  You're not staring at a TV, or a wall, and you feel more accomplished because you actually travel from point A to point B and you can see the distance laid out in front of you and behind you.  

ETA: spelling

kaos16

falsara said:

I run, but I don't do 5K's because I don't think they're always worth it.  Running on a treadmill is no where near the same as running outside, on varied terrain, with wind, and other variable factors. A treadmill does not help you train the same way an outside run does.  

 I mentally have a hard time on treadmills because it's so boring.  Lots of runners would much rather run outside where there are things that take the mind off that actual distance.  It's much more interesting.  You're not staring at a TV, or a wall, and you feel more accomplished because you actually travel fro point A to point B and you can see the distance laid out behind in front of you and behind you.  

I feel like a hamster when I have to run on a treadmill!!

PrettyGirlLost

kvruns said:

flutteringinfl said:

lolo883 said:

Sorry not sorry, I would have called you snooty too. Either run races that start in waves so the faster/more serious runners start first, or realize that the majority of people are going to see it as a "fun run" and not realize there are people who take it that seriously. 

There's one 5k I run every year (and I use the term "run" VERY loosely here). It's timed, but the walkers don't get chips and are asked to start in a wave after the runners. There are no official waves, but the fast people know to start at the beginning. My friends and I start near the end, just before the walker. I give nonefucks about being in the way of people who are so clueless to have started behind me. 

This. The existence or lack of corrals would indicate to me the "culture" of the race. Also, just say, "Excuse me," a lot. Not trying to be obnoxious, but isn't that proper race etiquette if someone is blocking your way and being slow?

There is a big local race here on Thanksgiving morning, they have corrals for certain times with designated stickers for those corrals, and then have pace signs where people are supposed to line up based on expected pace.  We always end up with the special sticker for the "fast" corral, but every year still end up with people walking within the first 1/4 mile in front of us and I'm surprised no one has gotten hurt because you have people going through the start at 8 min pace (where I am) and you have people coming to a dead stop in the middle of the road or walking 4 across.  So while the race has implemented corrals it doesn't completely prevent walkers from lining up way ahead of where they plan to be pace-wise. I have re-set my expectations for that and I know I'm going to have to dodge walkers at the start, so it still makes me mad but it isn't ruining it or anything.

The Gobble Wobble?  I have done that!

PrettyGirlLost

hellosweetie1015 said:

I don't get running. Like, I get it in life-or-death situations or when there's something fantastic to get to (I believe I ran part of the way to the Wizarding World, for instance) but going out at the asscrack of dawn on a Saturday just to get all hot and sweaty and gross, and then getting a lousy t-shirt for your effort? Fuck that.

Clearly I'm a snooty non-runner. 

Y'all have fun with your running. I'll be well out of your way, on my couch or in my kitchen or on my back porch, not-running.

Me neither, unless it's on an elliptical in an air conditioned gym.  I'm not sure why runners like running because they always look miserable as fuck! 

Plus I can't run  outside. . . like I physically can't do it.  My throat starts to get cold and I feel like I can't breathe.  Exercise induced asthma, maybe?  I dunno.  It only happens when I'm outside.

But I like to do 5Ks for charities and for the fun of it.

PrettyGirlLost

lovemesomemonster said:

I run for beer and cake.. I hate running, I don't get the whole "runner's high" or any kind of enjoyment you can find out of it. Basically I just want to drink my beer and still be able to fit in my pants because pants are expensive and I hate shopping for them.

All of this. . . plus running is a good cardiovascular exercise to keep the heart in shape.

But those mythical endorphins?  If they exist, then Unicorns are real too.

The only time I have ever experienced the runners high was when I ate hot wings so damn hot I had to sign 2 waivers; I bit into them, instantly felt the most burning pain ever, and then felt this out of body high where I knew I was in pain but I just didn't care anymore.  I recall thinking, "Huh, this must be that Runner's High everyone talks about. . . and how certain types of drugs work!"

If I want to experience that high again, I think I'll just skip the physical misery and go straight for the pill :-P

kaitlynmichelle

Part of my job is to help organize runs. We do multiple events a year and they vary, some are 5/10k only and others include 15k, half or full marathons.

We always ask the hardcore runners to get themselves to the front, walkers or slower runners towards the back. Everyone gets chip timed.

I'm no runner, but I see a lot of hard core people at these events. So I could get the frustration from their perspective. Our events are geared towards people of all abilities, so we encourage people to sort out their starting point themselves as we don't do waves. Everyone in one distance category goes all at once.

photokitty

Right or wrong - this is why I quit doing road races. I used to run in road races before it was cool to wear tutus, take selfies and throw corn starch. I remember the Race For the Cure that was the final straw for me. It's really not that easy to run around walker. And that race did have time corrals - but people wanted to start with their friends -PHOTOS!!! - regardless of how fast they could run.

Now I'm just a snooty driver, in that I hate that there is some theme run EVERY freaking Saturday now - blocking traffic with road closures. I remember when there was maybe one 5K per month. These fake charity fun runs really rub me the wrong way - and not bc I can't work on my PR timing.

ashley8918

photokitty said:

Right or wrong - this is why I quit doing road races. I used to run in road races before it was cool to wear tutus, take selfies and throw corn starch. I remember the Race For the Cure that was the final straw for me. It's really not that easy to run around walker. And that race did have time corrals - but people wanted to start with their friends -PHOTOS!!! - regardless of how fast they could run.

Now I'm just a snooty driver, in that I hate that there is some theme run EVERY freaking Saturday now - blocking traffic with road closures. I remember when there was maybe one 5K per month. These fake charity fun runs really run me the wrong way - and not bc I can't work on my PR timing.

What makes them "fake"? Every single fun run I have done/considered doing has donated to a legit charity. 

photokitty

ashley8918 said:

photokitty said:

WTF, boxes??? Really? You suck, boxes...I hate you

ashley8918 said:

photokitty said:

Now I'm just a snooty driver, in that I hate that there is some theme run EVERY freaking Saturday now - blocking traffic with road closures. I remember when there was maybe one 5K per month. These fake charity fun runs really run me the wrong way - and not bc I can't work on my PR timing.

What makes them "fake"? Every single fun run I have done/considered doing has donated to a legit charity. 

There are many that are legit, and if you run in them to benefit charity I recommend researching it to make sure that the money if going to a charity. The color run and sone like it that say the money benefits a charity only donate a very small portion to a charity and the money typically goes out of state, it doesn't benefit the local economy and it is done at a cost tot he taxpayers.

Race for the Cure is totally legit. Ones on Groupon where you get neon glow sticks - better check if the money is really doing any good or just a photo op for AWs - unless of course that's what the racer is going for...