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In my situation there still HOPE right? Please please tell me there still HOPE.. Very LONGGG post.

thestaircasethestaircase member
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edited March 2016 in Chit Chat
Hello. I'm sorry, LONGGG post ahead.. I know everyone time is precious, so please just skip it if you don't have a few minutes to spare. And my apology for the not so good English grammars, English is my third language.
I don't expect anyone to read my long-winded post or reply to it. Sorry my post is sooo longgg.. But if you can help give me advice, I really appreciate it. Thank you.

My mother destroyed me. When I was a child; my mother abused me mentally, verbally, emotionally and physically. But I forgave her, forgave her for everything she did to me in my childhood. After all, she gave birth to me; without her I wouldn't be here in this world.
I left my mother house more than a decade ago. I did break free from my abusive mother. I thought I have left my abusive childhood behind me when I walk out the door that day.

I never had a good relationship with my mom, But she didn't hate me to the point that she would completely cut me off. At least she used to let me drive back to visit my dad, used to let me phone home and talk to my dad see how he doing. I do miss and love my father very much, (the father that never abuse me).
Dad is much older age than mom, and his health right now is not very good. I understand that it my mom that take care of my dad; due to his not good health, and his old age.

I don't care how my mother treats me; as long as she let me phone talk to my dad, and let me visit my dad to see how he doing.. I always feel that I'm a very unfilial daughter. If one day he passed away due to old age, I will forever regrets that I didn't see him often enough when he was still alive.

Started 5 years ago; things between me and my mom get more worst and worst, to the point of now she has disown me.
5 years ago, I met him---the guy who is now my husband.. After 4 years constantly test his love and patience, I agree to married him. We got married 13 months ago, (got married on Feb 6th, 2015).
My mom disapproved him since day one, disapproved my marriage, insulted me and said alot of hurtful things.
My mom said I make her "Lose face", because I married my husband. Not only make her lose face to family, but also make her lose face to the Chinese community. She feels embarrassed and shameful about me.

Here my mom live in close-knitted Chinese/Asian community, there people have the old-fashioned traditional Chinese culture views on everything.
In the Chinese/Asian community; especially with the old generation, they judge me all the times because I married my husband.. My mom keeps said I make her "Lose Face". And I'm dirty, I'm a dirty girl. It hurts so much when she gave birth to me, but then call me dirty.
My mom give me alot of "Pressure", TREMENDOUS Pressure.

No, I'm not going to divorce my husband just so my mom can be happy, just so my mom would welcome me back with open arms. No.
He doesn't deserve his wife to divorce him just because his wife mother discriminate against him.
He treats me really well. He loving and very devoted husband, he very patience and understanding.
He work hard to secure our future. He worries and secure everything from emotionally to financially, so I can live a stable steady and comfy life.. I'm grateful, and I appreciate him alot for everything he do for me and do for our future.

Doesn't matter how well he treats me; my mom just won't accept him, she just so set in her rigid ways,
My mom make it loud and clear that she does not welcome me drive back to visit my dad anymore. She does not welcome me to step foot in to the house to visit see my dad anymore. And Don't ever phone back home to talk to her or ask how my dad doing, she doesn't want anything to do with me.. Yes, she that much ashamed of me

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Situation between me and my dad:
What further hurts is my dad never stood up for me. Eventhough my dad doesn't bluntly said all the hurtful words like my mom.. But he never defend me; he let my mother freely belittle me, say hurtful words to me. He never care enough to stood up for me, that is no difference as letting me know that he agree with what my mom do. I guess my own father is ashamed of me too.

At my wedding ceremony, both my mom and dad didn't show up. Eventhough my dad doesn't bluntly said it out that he disapproved my marriage like how my mom always rubs it in my face. But he Never congradulate me on my marriage. He Never on my side when my mom insulting me, or when mom insulting my husband.. Maybe deep down inside my dad also mind, he just doesn't want to say it straightout. You know what I mean?

I live one hour drive away. I don't mind drive 1 hour on the freeway to come back home to visit my father. But my mom just make it extremely hard for me.
When I back to visit, I told my mom I won't stay long. I just want a peaceful meal with my dad, so I can talk to him and see how he doing.
I have swallow my own tears while eating on the dinner table.. NEVER once I can have a nice meal with my old father with my mom presence, hearing she belittle/ insulting me.

I did try asked my dad if I can take him out to dinner. But then my mother say NO, and my dad follow my mom and say NO too.. I don't know if my dad scare of my mom, or simply because he doesn't want to go out to eat with me. I have the feelings that he also ashamed of me, he just doesn't bluntly said it out like how my mom does.

Because beside myself make an effort to drive back to visit my dad, Never once my dad make an effort to see me. My dad doesn't even care to phone me, it always me phone him when I miss him.
BOTH of my parents never make an effort to contact me or see me.. I understand that my relationship with my mom is very strain. But why my dad also on her side, and never want to see me?
My dad know my cell phone number, but he never phone me. Why? Is he scare of my mom, or it because he also Ashamed of me?
Why is my dad treats me this way too? I know that my mom is ashamed of me, but why even my own father is ashamed of me? It HURTS so much.

Regarding the situation between me and my father. If you have any advice you can help me on how can I see my father? Is there any hope left between me and my father? Or it is doomed too like the strain relationship with my mom?
Perhaps this is my fate, this lifetime I was not meant to have an immediate blood family.

I have zero family support. I have No family to turn to.. Family here I mean immediate family, my blood family. I'm not an orphan, I Know I have an immediate family, but it like I don't have any.

Lunar New Year is very important to Chinese/Asian. It hurts alot when it Chinese New Year--it suppose to be the time for family to get together. But your own mother doesn't even bother to phone tyou to say Hi, not even say a single word to you. Doesn't welcome you, doesn't want you to drive back visit your own father. She doesn't want anything to do with you. It HURTS alot.

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My husband he African (he Black). He from Sierra Leone, a country in West Africa.

My parents refused to accept my husband, they just won't accept him at all. Especially my mother she always give me a very very hard time..
My mother strongly disapproved him since the beginging. It just so unfair how she treated him. When I chose to married him; she completely cut me off, she disown me.
She very very unreasonable. She doesn't even care to know his name, let alone his jobs or who he is as a person.. NEVER once she care enough to met him.
She said alot of hurtful words. She discriminate against him and disrespect him when she never met him before, not even once. How fair is that to him?

I have known him for 5 years, and NEVER once my mom care enough to met him.
I don't know how many more 5 years I have left in this life, or how many 5 years I have to wait till she care enough to met him.. I don't know if until the day I died, IF I'm able to see my mother change her mind and accept him.

My husband knows all about my mother disapproved him, discriminate against him and disrespect him.
He knows all about my abusive childhood too. He doesn't mind my emotional childhood baggage. He doesn't care that my mother discriminate against him.
He accepted everything about me.. He accepted that this is our situation/circumstances. He face the situation and make the best out of it.

There No hate in his heart, there No resentment.. NEVER once I heard him say a word criticize my mother. NEVER once I heard him say a disrespectful word, a negative word or a bad word about my mother. NEVER once he complain a word about our situation/circumstances.

But then he never complain anyways. I Never heard him complain a word about his life, his jobs or anything life throw at him.. He said complain won't change anything. Don't run away, face the situation and make the best out of it.

The one that complain alot is me.. I just don't have the level-headed and the ridiculously patience level like my husband.
Heck, I'm still yearning for my mother to accept him, when deep down inside I know that she will never accept him. I have known him 5 years already, and she never bother to met him or accept him. What make I think she will suddenly change her mind now?

This guy wasted 5 years of his life put up with my emotional childhood baggage. Despite I constantly test his love and patience, and make him wait and wait. He still have all the patience. He still here, his love still unconditionally.
I guess that still not good enough for my mother, not good enough for her to give one single chance to met him.. After 5 years and she still doesn't care to met him, not even one time. This is like an indirect slap in his face to let him know how much my mother dislike him and disrespect him.---He human, he have feelings; how can he not mind this? This you agree right?

Past or present, he treats me really well.. He really patience, and really understanding of my abusive childhood. And understanding of my culture.
All he asked me for is promise to communicate with him, talk to him. We will face all the hardship together.. My family disapproval of him, our huge cultural difference, whatever hardship throw at us; he believe we can make it. As long two people loves each others, two people willing to communicate with each others, willing to make the effort to work it out together.

He strongly believe in communication. Talk it out together, and solve the problem together.. He wants me and him--both put in the effort to communicate to each others.
He likes to face the problem, communicate it through and solve it. He strongly against the silent-treatment route.
To him love/marriage go side by side with communication.. Don't rug-sweep problems, face it and work it out together. Don't run away from the piles, it will just build up more and more. I dunno, I guess he the type that big on communication?

It been a peaceful and loving 5 years knowing him, completely drama-free zero drama. Marriage also have been peaceful and loving. Heck, we don't even fight or argue.
Thank you to his patience and effort that hold this marriage stable and peaceful. He ridiculously patience, patience and patience, and still ridiculously patience.
My mother did said she will open her eyes wide and watch my marriage with this guy she disapproved, watch my marriage fail miserably.

I wish my mom can see him for his heart, for who he is as a person instead of his ethnicity. She disapproved him SOLELY because of his skin color.. It just so Unfair to him, seeing how my mother discriminate against him.
I know he ridiculously patience and very level-headed..
BUT I'm sure no guy would be happy when knowing their wife mother unreasonably discriminate against them. You know what I mean? This you agree right?
But somehow this doesn't seem to bother him.. He said he doesn't care for a MIL, he doesn't need a MIL. He doesn't care that my mother discriminate against him.

I have the tendency to self-blame ALOT. I blame myself that I can't give him a MIL, that he doesn't have a MIL. He doesn't have the perfect family with in-laws (MIL) who would accept him and respect him.
It self-blame, self-guilt that I have. That I can't give him a MIL. That I can't give my future children a maternal grandmother..

My mom did specificly said DO NOT ever bring those dirty grandchildren back to visit her. She doesn't want those dirty grandkids in her house.
She also called me dirty, called my future children dirty. According to her words, my future children are equally "Dirty" and shameful just like me--their mom.
My mother said alot of hurtful things. She said when I'm pregnant, don't carry my pregnant stomach back to visit her. Because it will make her Further "Lose Face". And because I'm dirty, and my baby is also dirty.

That is nothing, she said way way more hurtful words than that. My mom sure can said alot of hurtful things. She just hate me so much, and so ashamed of me to the point that she doesn't want anything to do with me.
It just hurts so much.. I have zero family support. I have No family to turn to.

Subconciously I'm still yearning for the day my mother will accept my husband.. I just hope before this life of mine is over, my mother can accept him. Or at least try to, at least give once change to met him.
Give it straight to me; in my situation, do I have any hope?..
Hope that one day my mom will meet him and accept him? Please tell me that eventhough it been 5 years already, eventhough NEVER once my mother bother enough to meet my husband.. But there still hope.
But there still hope..
There still hope for that one beautiful day where she will change her mind and meet him.
There still hope for that one day my husband will have a MIL.
There still hope for that one day my future children will have a "Maternal" grandma.
There still hope for that one day my mother will no longer ashamed of me, no longer ashamed of my marriage.
There still hope for that one day I will have a mother who will love me unconditionally like how other people mother love them.
There still hope right? Please please tell me there still hope.

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Eta: I have been in therapy since July last year to get help with my childhood baggage. I went to an Asian therapist that speak my native languages.
The therapy does help, but not completely. Somehow deep down inside me I still wish that one day my mother will accept my husband. One day I will have a mother that love me instead of think I'm shameful and dirty.

I thought going to an Asian therapist would be more fit, because she familiar with my culture. She grow up in that culture she probably can related more, and have a better understading to what I'm struggling with internally. I do have alot of internal conflicts inside myself.
But now I'm not so sure if an Asian therapist can help fix me. Maybe I need a 'western' therapist with the western approach, would a 'western' therapist be better in my situation?
I know there different types of therapy and therapist. Does anyone here have experience with therapy can help me; do you have a certain type of therapy that you can recommend me find, based on my situation/problems?
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Re: In my situation there still HOPE right? Please please tell me there still HOPE.. Very LONGGG post.

  • I think you need to continue to work with your therapist, as has been suggested in previous posts.  I'd ask for help accepting your parents for who they are, as they are unlikely to change.
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  • I am really sorry to hear this. It always makes me sad to hear/read that someone's significant other isn't accepted because of racial and cultural discrimination.

    Given the nature of the situation and how dedicated your mom is to Chinese tradition, I am not sure that she will ever accept your husband or marriage.

    My best advice is to try to find another therapist if you aren't satisfied with the one you've been seeing. One with a more "western" approach may be able to offer you a different perspective.

    I hope things work out for you and that you're able to make peace with the situation no matter what the outcome is.

  • SP29SP29 member
    Sixth Anniversary 2500 Comments 500 Love Its 5 Answers
    edited March 2016
    I'm sorry to hear that you do not have a good relationship with your parents. Unfortunately you cannot change them (yes, I include your dad in here, as I wondered where he was all those years you were growing up with your mom abusing you). You cannot control how they feel/act/think/behave. You can only control yourself. I doubt you will get them to accept you and your husband.

    I hope you continue to work with a therapist and that you find peace and happiness in yourself and with your husband.

    Your husband sounds like a wonderful man. HE is your family now- put your energy into him instead of your parents.

    Take care :)
  • I wish I could hug you right now, this is such a sad situation.  May I just add that perhaps your Dad doesn't speak up, phone you, etc., because he has to depend on your Mom for his daily care?  
  • db1984 said:
    I wish I could hug you right now, this is such a sad situation.  May I just add that perhaps your Dad doesn't speak up, phone you, etc., because he has to depend on your Mom for his daily care?  
    But this is the same man who sat by and did nothing while OP was being abused as a child. I don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. 

    OP, I second the others who say to continue with therapy, but consider changing therapists. I don't think you need to feel responsible for focusing so much energy on seeing your dad. What is his excuse for not protecting you as a child? 
  • I don't really have much advice but wanted to give you lots of HUGS and say that your H sounds really amazing. I think you are lucky to have him, and can build a wonderful family together.
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  • thestaircasethestaircase member
    Third Anniversary 10 Comments
    edited March 2016
    Thank you everyone for your advice. I really appreciated it.
    I know everyone time is precious, so I'm very thankful that you spare a few mintues read through my long-winded post and help me. Thank you very much.
    I click the 'heart' every comments/replies.

    I'm sorry my English grammars tenses is not very good. Thanks for bare with me reading through my post.

    Sorry, I know my posts are wordy; I just want to write out my inside feelings. I do have alot of internal conflicts inside myself.
    IRL, I'm Not wordy like this. It like I have a wall up inside myself, a wall to help block out my feelings and emotions.

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    My dad didn't abuse me in my childhood..
    It my mom that always take out her anger on me, and abuse me in my childhood.
    I don't see my dad much in my childhood.. My dad was a businessman back in our homeland Shanghai, China. Dad was rarely home, he always on business trips working to make money to immigrant our whole family to America. It Not cheap to immigrant the whole family to U.S.
    Thank you to my father money from his hard work. Our whole family immigrant to U.S when I was 12 year olds.

    My dad never abuse me. It only my mom that abuse me.
    My childhood were rather cold, my dad rarely home, he always on business trips work hard so our whole family can immigrant to U.S
    Thank you to my dad, our family get to live in a freedom and democracy country like U.S.
    I do love and miss my dad, I wish I can come back home to visit him. It just that my mom make it so hard for me.

    Things like my mom belittle me, take out her anger on me, criticize me and controlling me; these things are quite "common" in China.. There still parents that treats their children this way in China.
    Yes, in my childhood I hear my mother belittle me everyday; in her eyes I worth less than a dog on a street.
    My dad know but never stood up for me. I don't blame my dad, as he rarely home in my childhood.

    My mother did 'physically beaten' me ONE time. This happened when I was 12 years old, when we newly immigrant to U.S.
    She beaten me with two belts, and slap me. I had bruises on arms and body, tearing on my skin, and red slap hand marks across my face. The school teacher saw the marks, and report it to the police..
    Mom use the excuse that parents in China physically beat their children all the time, so she thinks it okay for her to hit me here in the U.S.
    Her excuse didn't matter to the police, this went to Court for she "Domestic Child Abuse" me. And I was taken to 'Foster home' for few years before I got return home.

    After that incident, she doesn't "physically beaten" me with belts anymore. But she still verbally abuse me, and she belittle me everyday.

    I remembered when she scold at me she point her finger at my head, grab my hair and push me to the ground.. She said straight in my face that I'm lucky we now live in the U.S. IF we was still in China, she will tied me up and beat me. She also said that she gave birth to me so she have all the rights to hit me.
    It hurts, but it not the physical hurt. What hurt alot was because she is my mother, but why not love me and care for me? Why brought me to this world but then belittle me, grab my head and push me to the ground?

    She also was very controlling. I lived with her till I was 18; back when I live with her, she check through my trash, digging through my trash like I was her prisoner.. She checking/digging through my trash, goes through my drawers, checking my bed, digging through my trash cans every single day.

    I know I can't live like this, I don't know if anyone can? I did plan my escape to leave as soon as I turn 18 and graduated High school.
    I know I can't change how my mother treats me. Leaving was my ONLY choice, it the only choice where I can have my freedom, my self-respect and my self-worth.

    My 4 years in High school, I work in my High School library. The California minium wage pay 13 years ago was like $5 to $6 an hour, I know I need this working money to take with me when I leave.
    After I graduated High school, at age 18 I left my mother house. I don't have anywhere to go. And I need a roof over my head to sleep at night, what are my option? My option was the Homeless Shelter, and that was where I went.
    I knew sleep in the Homeless shelter was hard, but I knew it was just "temporary" until I can find myself a place.. At least have my freedom, I have my mental health. I don't have to hear my mom belittle me everyday, and grab my hair and push me down to the ground when she mad, taking out her anger on me.

    I was just a girl alone in life. Single, No kids, No friends.. Even the person that gave birth to me me like a dog. So what else is there left for me to be to be scare of? I have nothing to be scare of.
    What is there left for me to be scare of in life?  When I have Nothing, No family to turn to, No immediately family. There isn't anything left for me to be scare of in life, not even death.. I gamble my life for my freedom. IF I die out there on the street then let that be. I'm not even scare of death.
    Women with children live for their children right?.. But I have No children, I have Nothing! Freedom was my reason to survive, I know I have to survive for my freedom and independence.

    I only only have a High school diploma (No college degree). With just a High school diploma, I can only work minimum wage jobs.
    I start my life over from scratch. Back then when I left my mother house; I work at a Chinese restaurant where I help cook in the back, wash alot of dishes, and do Food server.
    I have nothing to be ashamed of myself. I don't cheats, I don't steal, I survived with my own working money; so why do I have to be ashamed of myself?
    My mom can belittle me and put me down all she wants, I'm not ashamed of myself.

    Life was really really hard at that time, but I survived.. I don't know if it Karma; but when I was 26 I met him--the guy who is now my husband.
    He show me what unconditional love is. Maybe Karma see me suffer in my childhood, so in my adulthood Karma gave him to me.
    I'm 31 now, so I have known him for 5 years.. Past or present, my husband always treats me really really well. His ethnicity is irrelevent..

    BUT my mom disapproved my husband SOLELY due to his ethnicity/his skin color. Disapproved us together, disapproved my marriage. She completely cut me off after I got married, she disown me. Open another painful chapter of my life.
    My mom said I make her "Lose face", because I married my husband. Not only make her lose face to family, but also make her lose face to the Chinese/Asian community.  She feels embarrassed and shameful about me.
    Call me "dirty", and call my future children "dirty". And said all kinds of hurtful words, very hurtful words.

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    Please let me explain clearly the situation between me and my dad.. If anyone can help give me advice, or can help me on how can I see my father? Is there any hope left between me and my father?

    The situation between me and my father:
    My dad is 15 years older than my mom. He's very old, and right now his health is not very good..
    I want to visit him, but my mom doesn't welcome me back to visit.. It her house, she won't let me step foot in. And my dad won't step out to talk to me. I don't know what to do.
    I want to phone him, but my mom won't let me talk to him.. Last time I call home, she picks up. She said my dad doesn't want to talk to me, and she hang up the phone. I don't know what to do.

    My dad doesn't know how to use the internet or computer, he doesn't know how to check e-mail.
    I can try to write a letter method. But if it my mom that check the mailbox, I'm not sure if she will give the letter to my dad.. Perhaps write a letter is the last hope I have left.
    My mom did make it clear that she ashamed of me to the point that she doesn't want anything to do with me.. Would me write a letter to my dad, mom would considered it as have something to do with me?

    She also make it clear that she does not welcome me drive back to visit my dad anymore. She does not welcome me to step foot in to the house to visit see my dad anymore. And Don't ever phone back home to talk to her or ask how my dad doing.. She doesn't want anything to do with me; she is that that much ashamed of me.

    Beside myself make an effort to drive back to visit my dad.. Never once my dad make an effort to see me. He doesn't even care to phone me, it always me phone him when I miss him.
    BOTH of my parents never make an effort to contact me or see me.
    My dad have my cell phone number; but he doesn't phone me.. I don't know if it because he scare of my mom, or it because he also ashamed of me too. He just doesn't bluntly say it out like how my mom does.

    I'm at my wits end. I'm grasping at anything that I can grasp, hoping in vain that I can at least can keep in touch with my dad. I really want to see him even if it just for the main holidays; like Christmas and Chinese New Year--the time when family get together.
    I know I'm an unfilial daughter, and I blame myself everyday for being an unfilial daughter. If one day he passed away due to old age, I will forever regrets that I didn't see him often enough when he was still alive.

    I'm still trying to figure out 'why' my dad treats me the way he treats me.

    --My dad know my cell phone number, but he won't call me.. I don't know why, I'm still trying to figure out why.
    --My mom won't let me step foot in the house when I visit. My dad knows this, but he won't step out to see me.. I don't know why, I'm still trying to figure out why.
    --When I phone home; mom said my dad doesn't want to talk to me, and she hang up. My dad doesn't bother call me back on my cell phone.. I don't know why, I'm still trying to figure out why.
    Perhaps it because my dad is also ashamed of my marriage, ashamed of me just like how my mother is ashamed of me.. He just for some reason doesn't want to said it in my face like how my mom does.
    It beep hurts. And my life is a mess, I'm such a mess.

    That is everything; the relationship between me and my mom. And the relationship between me and my father.
    I know my mother is FORCING me to choose between them (my mom and dad), and my husband.
    I'm torn; I'm torn between my mom and dad, and my husband..
    Because I won't leave my husband, I'm still married to him.. My mom making it harder and harder for me. I'm at my wits end, I'm grasping anything I can trying to save the relationship with my father.

    I want to be able to see my father, to visit him during his old age.. I know it doomed between me and my mom. But I don't know why the relationship between me and my dad turn out to be like this too. Is my dad hate me and ashamed of me that much? Am I that shameful to the point even my father also doesn't want anything to do with me?
    BOTH my parentes are shamed of me and ashamed of my marriage to the point they don't want anything to do with me.

  • I agree with Kimmi.  Your dad still abused you by allowing your mom to treat you this way.  I honestly think the best thing for you is to forget about your parents.  They will never treat you the way you deserve to be treated, so why keep making the attempt.

    I think you need to stop seeing an Asian therapist and find one who can help you deal with your parents' abandonment of you.  If there is a high population of Chinese immigrants near you, its possible there could be fluent therapists in the area who can help you.  If you cannot find someone who speaks your fluent language, then try to find someone willing to work with a translator so you can be understood and understand the advice a new therapist can give you.

    As I said before, don't ever blame yourself for someone else's actions.  It was not your fault that your mom choose to push you away or abuse you.  You have done nothing wrong. 

    Focus on the life you have with your H. 

    If you want to go back to school, do it.  If you think it will help your self-esteem, take additional English classes to better master the language.  Just because you only have a high school diploma does not mean you can only work minimum wage jobs.  There is a big push in this country to make sure everyone goes to college after high school.  But not everyone is right for college and that's ok!  College is not needed for many occupations and could actually be a waste of money.

    Look for entry level positions in the newspaper, there maybe something where they need someone with basic command of both English and the Chinese dialect you speak - that sounds like a job that would be perfect for you.  Don't doubt the skills you have.  Even if the job states Bachelor degree required, still apply, jobs will always ask for every little thing they want in a dream employee, but will still look at any qualified applicant.

    How about the post office?  I'm in NJ, but they are hiring here - signs all over the place.  Maybe they are also hiring near you.  My sister just starting work there last year.  It's technically part time, but she works a full time schedule and delivers mail for various post offices, depending on the need for the day.  There are also some great benefits to being a government employee.  My sister also does not have a college degree, so it is possible to find a good job, with great pay and benefits without a college degree.  Don't settle, find something where you can use the skills that you have!

    And now, I just wrote a novel!

  • MyNameIsNotMyNameIsNot member
    Knottie Warrior 10000 Comments 500 Love Its 5 Answers
    edited March 2016
    Clearly your childhood was incredibly rough.  I'm so sorry for everything you've been through.  My parents sucked too.  A few years ago, I learned that forgiving them and accepting them for who they are was the best gift I could ever give myself.  They may not have deserved my forgiveness, but I did.

    Your dad may never have raised a hand or his voice, but he allowed your mother to.  He allowed you to live in a homeless shelter when his home was available.  He continues to allow your mother to treat you this way.  IMO, his behavior is just as abusive as your mothers, you just choose to see him differently than you see your mom.  

    This is so true. Your dad may not have been the one actually hurting you, but he didn't do anything to help you. His refusal to call you/step outside/return your calls now is the same thing as standing by while your mother belittled you or beat you back then. At the time that the state took you away and put you in foster care, your dad could have stepped in and fought to take you. Instead he just left you.

    I really think you need to figure out a way to stop blaming yourself for being an unfilial daughter. (I'm not sure what that means, but you need to accept that you are not doing anything wrong by choosing to marry and stay with a man you love.) Your father has had a thousand opportunities to have a good relationship with you. He has chosen not to. It is NOT YOUR FAULT. You cannot force him to have a relationship with you if he's not going to try.

    I don't know if the solution is to talk to a different therapist, to try different things with the current one, or to think about something more along the lines of a support group, or something completely different. One way or the other, you should try to stop blaming yourself and feeling guilty for doing nothing wrong.  
     
  • edited March 2016
    OP, how many forums have you asked this question on? Has anyone given you the answer you need? What about the almost identical questions about whether your husband it too controlling? 

    Has anyone at your church ever had a wedding in a park and neglected to invite you?

    Eta: words 
                 
  • SP29SP29 member
    Sixth Anniversary 2500 Comments 500 Love Its 5 Answers
    I'm sorry to hear you had such a rough childhood. I think you need to actively remove your mother from your life.

    As for your dad- I still believe he is the one at fault. You keep asking the question- is there any hope for you two? I will say directly- NO. I wish there was, but he stood by your childhood and adulthood and did nothing to stop your mother or contact you. He has your phone number, or he could step outside when you come over. If he is at the point that he is physically unable to walk to the front door or pick up the phone, then while it is sad, your mother is his gate keeper and if she doesn't want you around, you won't be able to get around.

    I think you need to focus on yourself first and remove your parents from your life. None of this is your fault- it is your parents. You are not inferior, stupid, or dirt.

    Focus on your life with your husband. I do not fully understand why you say you are torn between your mom, dad and husband. I understand being upset about your parents, but the day you married your husband is the day you became a family with him and this means you always put him first.

    I hope you continue with therapy and are able to gain some confidence.
  • thestaircasethestaircase member
    Third Anniversary 10 Comments
    edited March 2016
    Hi, to answer Ms. glasgowtolondon questions,
    I post this exact same thread in another forum asking for advice, in CafeMom. The exact same thread with the exact same title, and exact same question.. As far as I know I have the rights to post in other forum. There no rule in theKnot said I can't post the same thread in another forum. There no rule in theKnot said if I'm a member here in theKnot, I can't be a member in another forum.
    Me posting this exact same thread in other forum asking for advice is irrelevent to here.. If you don't like to read my thread, then ignore it. I believe ther is an "Ignore" button, where you can dad me to your 'Ignore list' so you don't have to see my thread or read anything I post ever again.

    Everything I need to ask, I write it very clearly in my post.. I'm looking for advice hoping if I can save the relationship between me and my father. I'm grasping at anything that I can grasp, hoping in vain that I can at least can keep in touch with my dad. And I'm still tryomh to figure out why my dad treats me the ways he treats me.

    I'm looking for hope, any hope that I can have trying to save the relationship between me and my dad..
    I'm still trying to understand why my dad doesn't want to see me; when I come back to visit, why won't he step outside to see me and talk to me? Why he listen to my mom and let my mom shut the door in my face like that.
    I'm still trying to understand why my dad won't call me, eventhough he have my cekk phone number. Why when I call my mom hang up on me, but he wont' call me back?
    I feel that it unfair, I don't know why my parents treats me like this. I'm looking for an answer, I'm looking for any hope I can have.

    Before mom let me drive back to visit my dad once a month, and on holidays. Before when I phone home, my mom let me talk to my dad. Now she just want to completely cut all ties with me, completely cut me off. Why? I just want to know why?
    I know my mom is FORCING me to chose between my parents, and my husband. I know my mom making it harder and harder for me because I didn't want to divorce my husband..
    I don't care how my mom treats me, I just want to know why my father treats me like this too.. I'm just looking for an answer for myself, for inner peace, for my own peace inside myself; myself want an answer.

    I'm sorry if my thread in any way bothering you. But there nothing trigger or drama in my thread. There nothing sensitive triggers topics in my thread.
    My thead is NOT about abortion, it NOT about rape, it NOT about cheating or physical violence, it NOT about kidnapped children, it NOT about miscarriage, etc... So Nope, there nothing sensitive or triggers in my thread.
    I didn't violate theKnot rule for post this thread. And I have the rights to post this exact same threads in other forum.
    If you find my thread in any way violate theKnot forum rules, or violate theKnot "Chit Chat" section rule; please feel free to report it to the Admin/Mod so they can come and read it themselves. Thank you.

  • Of course you have the right to post the same thread in multiple forums. It's just slightly odd, and incredibly dramatic. Your thread doesn't bother me in the sense that it is triggering or annoying, more that it is just plain unusual. If this is true then you are having an incredibly difficult and sad time, in which case my advice would be to speak to an different therapist. If you are seeking this level of support from many different forums online I would suggest you need much more help from someone in real life.
                 
  • I don't think there is anything you can do. Your dad has put up with your mom's abuse your entire life. He doesn't care enough about you to make contact. That's awful, but I think you need to focus on moving on happily with your husband not trying to win your racist abusive parents over. 
  • thestaircasethestaircase member
    Third Anniversary 10 Comments
    edited March 2016
    Thank you sooo much PP for the jobs recommendation.
    I do speak fluent English, I speak English fluent and fast.. It just my English grammars is not very good. I know my grammars tenses errors are all over the place, but I think my English is good enough to get the main point clearly across.
    People read my posts said they understand fine that I'm saying, it just they have to auto-correct the tenses as they reading it.
    English is my third language. I know I have alot to work on my English grammars.

    I'm 3/4 Chinese and 1/4 Vietnamese. My dad is full Chinese, and my mom is half Vietnamese.
    I'm fluent in speaking reading and writing Chinese, (Mandarin, Cantonese, and Shanghainese dialect because I'm native Shanghai born).
    I'm also fluent in speaking reading and writing Vietnamese.
    And English is my third language.

    I only have a High school diploma, (No college degree).
    I did attended college for a brief period of time, but I dropped out. Because I never finish college, I never got a degree. Therefore I have No college dgree.
    With just a High school dimploma; jobs that I work all my life are minimum wage jobs.
    But I have nothing to be ashamed of myself. I don't cheats, I don't steal, I survive with my own working money. I have nothing to be ashamed of myself.

    I left my mother house when I was 18, that was more than a decade ago..
    When I first left my mother house; I work at a Chinese restaurant where I help cook in the back, wash alot of dishes, and do Food server. I no longer work this job.

    In the past, I had work USPS 'temporary seasonal job'. Every year when it come near the Christmas holiday, they hire thousands of people for 'temporary' possition to help handling mail, processing mail. Help get through all those millions of mail coming through in the holiday time.
    They tell you right there that it just a temporary position (not permanent). All they need is hire people to help them sorting, organizing, processing mail, get all the mail through as fast as they can during Christmas time.
    It was alot of standing, sorting and processing millions of mails during the holidays times; it was very busy.. That why they hire thousands of people for this 'seasonal positition', just for the holiday only.

    The jobs that I work the longest for many years is Retail.. Retail I started out working in the Women Clothing department. Then I transfer to the Women Shoe department, because it pay the same hourly but I get 'commission' added to the hourly pay.

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    Due to this Shoe Retail job,
    I was in a situation where I did wondering if my husband was controlling or not.. I posted a thread about this back in August 2015 (on another forum), I did asked for advice and inputs whether or not my husband was controlling.
    The answer I got from the other forum was split in half.. Half of the ladies on there said my husband is controlling.
    The other half of the lladies on there said my husband is not controlling, he just want the best for me.

    This situation happened back in August 2015 where my husband keep insist on want me to work in an Office/desk job instead of Shoe Retail.
    I don't know if it a sign of him controlling or he just wants the best for me, or maybe both?

    At the time I work in Retail (Shoe department). In Retail you have to be on your feet, climing on ladders get shoe, running back and forth cashier register, getting get shoe for customers to try on, etc...
    It not always busy. There times when it slow, but it sure does get very busy when the Thanksgiving/Christmas holiday season.

    My husband he always let me have things 'my' way; he doesn't argue or disagree with me. So far there no fighting or arguments in our marriage yet. It been a smooth and peaceful marriage, so peaceful that ugh.. sometimes I asked myself, if our marriage is normal or not?

    He is a laid-back guy, 90% of the time he let me have things 'my' way. But when it comes to things that really matter, he does voice his opinion and said his needs.. He said that I should try to get an Office job instead of keep work in Shoe Retail.
    An office job like receptionist, any office/desk type of job. As long as I be sitting instead of running around on my feet all day.

    And his reasons are below:
    --- An Office job will be better for me During pregnancy and Post-pregnancy.. He doesn't want me to carry a pregnant stomach and work in Shoe Retail. 
    I did promise him that we will have a baby. At first I promise him we TTC in 2016, but then I'm still not ready so I push it to 2017. I feel terrible for keep put the baby plan on hold.. All he wants is a baby. And he been waiting patiencely for me to give him a baby.

    I know I married him. We married, eventually we going to have a baby.. I can't just keep him childless for the rest of his life. And I know he really really want a baby to complete our little family.
    He said he wants me to work at office/desk job, because he doesn't want me to carry my pregnant stomach be on my feet getting shoe for people to try on, like how my Retail job was.

    --- He said also because I know how to use well Microsoft Office: Microsoft Excel, PowerPoint and Word.
    And I type over 120 word per minute. And I speak fluently 3 languages (Chinese, Vietnamese and English). He thinks I should use those skills to get an office job.
    I did work at at a Chinese dentist office once; it was a long time ago in the past, but that does count as I had some experience.

    He thinks I should use my skills to start finding an office job now, start working now. I guess it because it will take time to earn Maternity leave? He keep insist and insist me to get an office job. He doesn't want me to work in Shoe Retail anymore.
    We live in California, and there ALOT of Asian population here. So there alot of Vietnamese and Chinese doctor--dentist--business office here.

    --- My husband work long hours. He work 2 jobs, a full time job and a part time job.
    He wants us to spend time together as much as we can. We always eat dinner together.. But when Retail job get very busy during Thanksgiving Black Friday/Christmas time, I will have to work late and miss out dinner with him.
    He doesn't want me to work late during holiday time in Retail. He wants me to be at home and spend holiday family time with him.
    Office job I get weekend off. I can spend more time with him, and cook dinner Chinese/Vietnamese food for him.

    --- He said he make enough for me to stay home. If I want to, I can stay home. TTC and give birth to a healthy baby. Stay home care for the baby.
    He far far from rich. But he does make 4x times more than me, and he also get yearly raise. Annual raise, and great benefits.. And when he work on holidays/overtime will be paid extra, at double time and a half; so it not bad at all considering the pay.
    Financially it not a problem.. We have decent amount of saving. We both are Debt-free, zero debt. And we both are not big spender.


    He knows my childhood background. Back then when I left my mother house. I work at Chinese noodle restaurant washing dishes in the back, and do Food server.
    He said he does NOT want me to do those type of jobs anymore (wash dishes/food server).. Same with he does NOT want me to work in Shoe retail climbing on ladders getting shoe for people to try on.
    He said back then when I left my mother house; I was in a situation where I didn't have a choice, so I have to work those jobs for to survival. I was alone by myself..
    BUT now I have a choice, now I have him. He said he make enough money for me to stay home.. He said stay home is a choice I have, an option I have.

    But IF I refused to stay home, or refused to work at Office/desk job.
    --- He said I can go back to school. He said he financially support me to go back to school.
    I only have a High School diploma. I'm a College dropped-out, so No college degree.
    I did went to college for a short time before up dropped-out.. My credits in college were just from took Calculus, Java and C++ classes. I don't know what can I do with those various classes credits for a degree.
    Welp, I refused the go back to school option.. I'm 31 this year, I really don't want to be sitting in class with college age students much younger than me.

    --- Then he said I can take a trip to China visit my grandma and relax. He knows I miss my grandma alot.
    I immigrant with my family to USA at age 12.. It been almost two decades in U.S, and I only went back to China to visit one time.
    My family is in U.S; but my grandmother still in China by her choice, she prefers stay in China due to her old age.
    My husband say said if I want to take a vacation, if it helps me relax. He said he pay for my whole trip back to China to visit my grandmother.

    He gives me quite some options; including financially pay for my college if I want to go back to college, and my trip back to visit China..
    I don't think that is controlling right? Because I heard that controlling men will always want to keep their wife by their side. They will not give their wife options, let alone willing to pay for her trip back to visit her grandma in China.

    I dunno. I don't feel that he controlling.. BUT then my normal meter is broken severely, so maybe I don't see it clearly enough?
    He knows all about my abusive childhood. He knows how much I hate to be controlled. He knows how much freedom and independent is to me.. He let me work; it just that he wants me to work in an Office job where I can sit, instead of running around on my feet like in Shoe Retail.

    Anyways, in October 2015 I did get a office/desk job so he can be happy. Because he keeps on insist that he wants me to work at an office job.
    I found the job because I can speak Mandarin, Cantonese, Vietnamese and English. And I know to use well Microsoft Office.
    With this Office job, now I have weekend off. And the job it much more comfortable than Shoe Retail where I have to climbs ladders and be on my feet all day.

    I have to admit the office job sure is much more comfortable, and it a better for a career in a long run.
    It was him that push me to get the office job. When I try to talk to him about Shoe Retail vs. Office job, we always back to square one; the square one of him insist me to get the office job.

    I have a severly broken normal meter due to my childhood. As an adult I do question myself alot. My heart say one thing, but my brain say another thing.. My heart is always conflicts with my brain.
    My heart said my husband loves me, BUT my brain said perhaps he was controlling me when he keeps on insist the office job.

    Yes, this situation where my husband keeps insist me get the office job; it still bother me, I still think about it.. I just have alot of conflicts inside myself. It always my heart vs. my brain, and my brain always win.
    If you read my posts enough; I'm sure you can tell that I have No clarity, my trains of thoughts are scatter all over the place.. I have No clarity.

    I know I have alot to work on myself, I have alot of layers to work through.. I know counseling/therapy takes times, but sometimes I feel that I'm severely broken to the point that I don't know if counseling/therapy can fix me.

    ------------------------------------------------
    And regards my situation where my parents disapproved my husband, and disapproved my marriage.. This is nothing unusual, it actually quite common in China and Vietnam. Things like this still happened in Chinese and Vietnamese family, (especially the "traditional" family ones).

    China have a 6,000 years of Chinese history and culture.
    You see there are 1.3 BILLIONS Chinese population in China. There are 90 MILLIONS Vietnamese population in Vietnam.
    Anything is possible in China, a country with a 1.3 billions population. And a 6,000 years of traditional Confucianism culture and teaching.

    This is my thread situation, this is my "individual" situation..
    NO where in my thread I said all Chinese parents are like this. In my thread all I said is my specific situation with "my" parents.
    My mother abuse me is my mother abuse me, she can only represent herself. My mother is my mother, she doesn't represent other people mother.
    One Chinese/Vietnamese doesn't represent the whole China country/Vietnam country population.

    You can only represent YOURSELF, you don't get to represent others.. I don't represent anyone, and I can't represent anyone. Just like nobody can represent me.

    Would my life be better if I listen to my mother and married someone she chose for me? I don't know.. But what I know is I don't want my mom to chose a husband for me. I don't want my mom to matchmaker my marriage.
    I know "matchmaker" sound strange in western culture. But parents 'matchmaker' you still happen in mainland China, still happen in Vietnam. And especially it still happen in families who have traditional culture parents.

    I know the relationship between me and my mom is doomed.. I'm just trying to save the relationship. I'm grasping at anything I can grasp, any little hope I can have left trying to save the relationship between me and my dad.
    I just beep hurts alot when you know you not an orphan. You have a mother and father but it like you don't have any. It beep hurts, that's all.
  • The whole job issue with your H sounds like he wants what is best for you.  He wants you to use the skills you have and get a job worthy of your skills.  As I said before, not having a college degree will not stop you from getting a good job.  YOU are stopping yourself from getting a good job. 

    I think your mother has killed any self-esteem that you may have had.  You do not believe in yourself because of all the abuse your mother inflicted upon you and which your father did not attempt to stop.  So stop thinking about them, they have never had your best interests at heart.  Think about your H who wants what is best for you.  Work on building up your self-esteem.

    Think of what you HAVE accomplished in life.  You have mastered 3 languages.  You successfully moved out of your parents house at age 18 and supported yourself.  Those 2 things right there are something not many people can also claim.

    Keep working with a therapist.  Change therapists if you think it will help more.  Maybe purchase a book from Amazon about how to improve your self-esteem. 

    Remember, no matter what you were told in the past, you have self-worth.  Focus on the love that your H has for you.

  • Can I ask why you always turn to these forums for advice instead of speaking to your therapist? I've seen your posts a few times, and you never seem satisfied with any of the advice you receive. 
  • thestaircasethestaircase member
    Third Anniversary 10 Comments
    edited March 2016
    Forums on the internet are public. Anyone have the rights to post threads there, it public on the word wide web.
    I use the forum as a sounding board to help me sort out my thoughts and feelings, and things that on my mind--my worries.

    I use the forums to write out my feelings inside, I do have alot of internal conflicts inside myself.
    IRL, I'm not wordy person. It like I have a wall up inside myself, a wall to help block out my feelings and emotions.
    I use the forums as a sounding board to help me sort out my thoughts and feelings, and things that on my mind. Is that okay?

    I post this thread because I was looking for hope, any hope I can have to save the relationship between and my father. My mother already disown me, I don't want my father to disown me too.
    I'm Not an orphan, I have parents. I just want to know my parents treated me this way.. Myself is looking for an answer. I feel that it unfair; I don't know what I did to desever my dad treats me like that, (treats me the same way my mom treats me).

    When I posted this thead, I said it clear in my post that I don't expect anyone to read my long-winded post or reply to it.. I know everyone time is precious, so I'm not expect anyone to spare few minutes of their time to reply to my wordy thread. NEVER once I demand anyone to reply to my thread.
    BUT I have the rights to post in forums, to ask or advice, to vent, etc..
    Just like everyone else have the righst to post in this forum, or in other forum ask for advice.. If my post in any way bother you, just ignore it; please don't reply to it.

    I thank you everyone that replied in this thread. I click the 'heart' in everyone replies, and I say thank you to everyone.
    I don't think anywhere in my post I ever say that I'm not satisfy with the advice given me. I posted this exact same thread in other forum is irrelevant to this forum.. I'm sorry but I have the rights to post in other forum, and me members in other forum too.
    If you find me posted this exact same thead in other forum--is considering offended to you, then please just ignore my thread.

    I don't know if your in BabyCenter. But if you there, I'm sure you see plenty of posters in there that post their thread asked for advice in multiple groups board.. In fact right now I see a thread of a girl asking for help on her relationship problems, she posted her thread in 3 different groups board in BabyCenter.
    Nobody there care; if they like the thread they read it and give advice. If they don't like the thread or don't like the poster, they just move to the next thread that they find interested. It very simple.
    In fact, BabyCenter is very strict with their community rule.. You in there telling someone to STOP postting a thread, that is a violation. You telling someone to get off the forum, that is a violation. You tell them they can't post their thread in another groups board, that is a violation. Their rules is strict like that there.

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    Anyways, thank you everyone that replied to this thread and help me. I really appreciate it.
    I do re-read this thread, like I'm re-reading everyone comments/replies advice right now. It helpful, and it helps me think alot.. I just have alot of layers to work though. I have No clarity, and my heart and brain is always in conflicts with each others.
    My heart tell me one thing but my brain tell me another thing. I don't have inner-peace inside myself, I don't know if I can ever find inner-peace.

    Thank you Ms. OliveOilsMom for your patience and help give me advice.. I'm sure my wordy post annoying you, but you still replied back and help me. Thank you.

    I been going to my Vietnamese therapist since July 2015 (not one year yet).. It helps somewhat, but not help completely.
    My therapist said I need to work at my own pace, everyone healing pace is different; I need to go at my own pace in my healing process.
    My therapist also said it an all "Me" problem, all "My" problem.. NOT a husband problem.. She said there nothing wrong with my husband. It NOT a husband problem. It a "Me" problem.

    My therapist said she doesn't see anything wrong with my husband. Despite how hard I try to find faults in him, my therapist said she see Nothing wrong with my husband.
    Again, this is all a "ME" problem; all a "My" problem.
    It like subconciously I'm looking for faults in my marriage & looking for fautls in my husband, so it can match up with my mother negativity and hurtful words that my mother ingrain in my brain.

    Counseling/therapy does help me learn to let go of my mother..
    BUT I don't know why I'm still hanging on to my father. I'm looking for any hope, any hope even if it just tiny hope; hope that I can save this relationship with my father. Hope that I can visit my father, or talk to him on the phone.. My mother already disown me, I don't want my father to disown me too.
    It seem like I can't accept the fact that now even my own father feel ashamed of me to the point that he also disown me, (like my mother disown me).
    When your own father and mother BOTH feel ashamed of you, it beep hurts alot.

    I don't know what is wrong with me, but I always feel blue when it come to the holidays.. It hurts when I see others people have their "Immediate" family love and support--they all spend the holiday happily together. But me? me during the holidays, I have No immediate family.
    I feel blue when I see other people out there have both sides of in-laws, their children have both sides of grandparents.. But my husband doesn't have in-laws. My future children won't have "Maternal" grandparents.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    I don't have alot of friends. I have 2 best friends all my life..
    1 best friend whom I'm very close with. Me and her know each others since our High school days, it just that we are older now and have our own little family to take care.
    She knows the strain relationship I have with my mother; so on holidays and when she have family gathering, and whenever she have the time she always invite me over.
    We are good friends, I was a bridesmaid at her wedding. I'm very happy to see she have the 'perfect' family, with her husband and her children.. She just so lucky, she have everything. Her life it just so perfect compared to my life.
    My life is a mess, I'm a mess.

    Anyways, last time she invite me to her house to eat and talks.. So I was at her house seeing her family and her in-laws together, she and her DH and her kids, all happy as a big family spending the holidays together.
    Her DH have his in-laws love him. Her children have both sides of grandparents (maternal and paternal grandparents) love them. They are one big very happy family, both sides of in-laws happy together.
    You see? My best friend have the "ideal" family. Something I know this lifetime I will never have.

    When I went home, I feel blue.. And I feel sad for my husband. Because I know as long as my husband married to me, he will not have a happy family like what my best friend have.
    I feel terrible that he married to me. With his mature and patience level, he needs to find a better girl.. It really not too late, he only 30 years old. He needs to open up his eyes, and see that the only thing he did wrong in his life is married a girl like me.
    IF he married another girl, he would have a MIL that welcome him and accept him for who he is. His future children will have a Maternal grandmother.

    I dont't know what the beep is wrong with me, but I feel like this. Self-Blame, Self-Guilt. I don't know if it my abusive childhood that lead me to have self-blame issue, but I always self-blame all my life. I blame myself all the times.
    I know my husband he ridiculously patience, I know he loves me and cares for me.. But it like I'm always wait for the other shoe to drop, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop. You know what I mean Ms. OliveOilsMom?
  • thestaircasethestaircase member
    Third Anniversary 10 Comments
    edited March 2016
    Oh, and thank you Ms. OliveOilsMom for your kinds words, and your encouragement words. Your very nice, thank you.

    Yes, I'm fluent in 3 languages. But I'm just a girl with only a High School diploma, (No College degree).
    Yes, I supported myself. But jobs that I work all my life are just minium wage jobs.
    I'm not smart, I'm not bright, I'm not strong. Heck, I can't even face my own feelings and emotions. I can't even admit that I love him--the guy who lawfully is my husband.. I just have so much internal conflicts inside myself.
    Your right. I have ZERO self-worth, ZERO self-confidence.. I don't even love myself, let alone love someone.

    Yes, I left my mother house when I was 18.. I was the one that chose to left, so I don't blame my dad for not care for me.
    I left with just clothes and little money I make from working at my High School libary.. I know if I died out there on the street, nobody care for me. But at least have my freedom. I don't want to hear my mom belittle me everyday. Or grab my hair and push me down to the ground when she mad, taking out her anger on me.
     
    My mom gave birth to me, but she treats me like a dog. What else is there left for me to be to be scare of? I have nothing to be scare of.
    When I have Nothing, No family to turn to, No immediately family. There isn't anything left for me to be scare of in life, not even death.. I gamble my life for my freedom.
    Women with children live for their children. But I have No children, I have Nothing!.. Freedom was my reason to survive, I know I have to survive for my freedom and independence.

    I know there are government programs out there that specificly designated to help women who are pregnant, and women who have children.. BUT I wasn't pregnant, I have no kids.
    I was just a 18 year olds girl alone in life with no family no friends. I have ZERO hope at that time.
    I know I don't qualify for government help; because I wasn't pregnant, I don't have any children.

    I don't have anywhere to go; and I need a roof over my head to sleep at night.. Quick, think; where can I find a place quick to sleep at night, what were my option? My option was the Homeless shelter, and that was where I went.
    I knew sleep in the Homeless shelter was hard, but I knew it was just "temporary" until I can find myself a place.. I know sleeping there was just 'temporary', not permanent.
    I survived. Where rent the chepast I go there rent to live. I save up to buy a used car. I start my life over from scratch.
    I guess Karma didn't treats me bad after all, I make it through those toughest time of my life.

    I don't hate my dad, because this was the route that I chose.. How can I blame it on my father when I'm the one that chose to left home? You know what I mean?
    My dad didn't kick me out, I 'myself' chose to left home.. I know that I will be sleeping in the Homeless shelter, but I still chose to left home. I don't blame it on my dad that he doesn't care for me.

    I'm not scare of living in the Homeless shelter again..
    Even IF one day in the future my husband no longer love me and kick me to the curve; the Homeless shelter is where I be headed to.. I survived there when I was 18. Now at the age 31, I know I will survive.
    I won't hate my husband, I won't blame my husband.. I just blame myself for chose the wrong guy, for chose him over my parents. I'm just saying 'IF', I know my husband care for me, he won't abandon me. Unless he change 180 degree different, I know he won't abandon me.

    I don't know if you make it through reading my long-winded replies. I know my train of thoughts is scatter everywhere, it really hard to follow my post..
    My therapist is right; I have ALOT of layers to work though, ALOT.
    And your right Ms. OliveOilsMom, I need to work on my self-worth. I think you can tell; I'm a person with ZERO self-worth, I don't even love or care for myself.

    I do have Amazon Kindle, so I can read books on Amazon Kindle.. Do you have some books you can recommended to me to help me with my self-worth? I know I'm a person with ZERO self-worth; I'm just so used to it this way, this is me all my life. To be frank, I don't even love myself, I don't even care for myself.
    I know I'm a very messed up girl, this is why I don't know if counseling/therapist can help fix me.. But it worth a try right? That is why I been in therpist since July last year. I guess my healing pace is slower than others, but it worth a try. I'm not going to give up on therapy, I will continue go.
  • SP29SP29 member
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    Your husband sounds wonderful- it seems he wants the best for you and is trying to encourage your strengths. maybe I am wrong here, but I doubt your husband is very upset his in-laws do not love him- YOU are his family. You can't change your parents, and they (yes, THEY), are not good people to have in your life. Better to have no parents than ones who treat you like dirt. You are an adult- you get to decide who is in your life. Life is too short to waste it on people who do not care about you.

    Since you have already started in an office job, you could look at night school courses at a local college to improve your skills and see where that takes you.

    Keep going to therapy. I assume you are doing private sessions? Perhaps you could find a local support group in your area that you could also attend in addition. Even if the support group doesn't share your issues exactly, still a place where you can talk to people who may have shared your childhood experiences.
  • MCmeowMCmeow member
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    edited March 2016
    I'm so sorry for everything you've been through. It seems like this is definitely a cultural issue that won't be solved easily, and might not be solved with them at all, but you seem like a strong person that can start your own family while avoiding your parent's mistakes. Please keep going through therapy so you can solve these issues and never blame yourself.

    My fiance is also Chinese and tries to teach me these cultural differences. Your cultures are vast and so very beautiful but he also mentions the negatives, like if I were black his parents wouldn't approve of me either. Also he has two brothers, and his aunts and uncles used to be jealous because they had daughters, who they didn't treat well either. It's not you, never think that it's you.

    Unfortunately your parents may never approve of your husband, but I don't know them, maybe it's only a matter of time? But he is now your family and it seems like he loves you very much and treats you the way you should be treated. Just remember that the way he treats you proves that you are worth more than what your mother tells you. Solve these insecurities within yourself and you will have a happy life with a family that loves you. 
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