Nancy Reagan's psychic called

kimmiinthemitten

And told Trump what Andrew Jackson thought about a war that began 20 years after he died.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/331349-trump-why-was-there-the-civil-war

Heffalump

No worries, I hear Frederick Douglass is on it and is doing a great job!

This guy, y'all:

"People don't realize, you know, the Civil War, if you think about it, why?" Trump said during the edition of "Main Street Meets the Beltway" scheduled to air on SiriusXM.

 

"People don't ask that question, but why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?"

People don't ask that question?  Hmmmm.  Try picking up a book.  Or a magazine that is not OK Weekly.  (No offense!  Great read if you're getting a pedi!)  Or listening to NPR.  Or talking to someone who knows anything.  Take your pick.

mrsconn23

MissKittyDanger

*sigh*

Thankfully that psychic called ....

sparklepants41

"I mean had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later you wouldn't have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart,"

What a moron and an asshole. Yeah, a guy who owned 150 slaves and ethnically cleansed the Cherokee from the South had a "big heart."

kimmiinthemitten

First he doesn't know if he bombed Syria or Iraq.

Then he doesn't know the difference between Johnson and Jackson...one of whom he claims to be a lot alike and a huge fan of.

What does he not know the difference between next?

southernbelle0915

kimmiinthemitten said:

First he doesn't know if he bombed Syria or Iraq.

Then he doesn't know the difference between Johnson and Jackson...one of whom he claims to be a lot alike and a huge fan of.

What does he not know the difference between next?

Melania and Ivanka. #daughterwife

levioosa

Why don't people ask why? Are you fucking kidding me? There are literally thousands of books, journal articles, movies, and documentaries discussing exactly that from every angle. And his comparison to Jackson makes me sick. We are such a joke to the world right now. 

Heffalump

levioosa said:

Why don't people ask why? Are you fucking kidding me? There are literally thousands of books, journal articles, movies, and documentaries discussing exactly that from every angle. And his comparison to Jackson makes me sick. We are such a joke to the world right now. 

Right?  I mean, Ken Burns did an entire nine-part series on the Civil War.  You don't even have to watch the parts about Manassas, Gettysburg, Appomattox Courthouse--just watch the first disc, and you'll be a lot more up to speed than you are now, dude.  I guess since Ken Burns is not a Fox News host, it's a lost cause.

charlotte989875

Heffalump said:

levioosa said:

Why don't people ask why? Are you fucking kidding me? There are literally thousands of books, journal articles, movies, and documentaries discussing exactly that from every angle. And his comparison to Jackson makes me sick. We are such a joke to the world right now. 

Right?  I mean, Ken Burns did an entire nine-part series on the Civil War.  You don't even have to watch the parts about Manassas, Gettysburg, Appomattox Courthouse--just watch the first disc, and you'll be a lot more up to speed than you are now, dude.  I guess since Ken Burns is not a Fox News host, it's a lost cause.

Side note: that is a fantastic documentary. 

short+sassy

I wonder if he even realizes that his idolatry of Jackson will alienate many Native Americans.  Or perhaps he just doesn't care.

It's so weird to me that he seems to see himself in Jackson.  These are the two reasons off the top of my head:

• Jackson was the "people's president" because he was the first POTUS who came from humble beginnings instead of the upper class.  Not true of Trump at all.  And, of course, by "people".  They really only meant white men.  Okay, that part is true for Trump.
• Jackson thought America was ONLY for immigrants.  It was the Native People who needed to be persecuted.  Trump only likes immigrants who were previously super models.

I'm going a little off topic with one of my favorite historical stories.  In NOLA, in Jackson Square, there is a big statue of Jackson.  Originally, the statue was supposed to be facing in the opposite direction.  Toward the Battle of New Orleans where Jackson made his name during the War of 1812 (though the war was actually over when that battle happened).

Shortly after his death, NOLA was trying to raise funds for this statue.  The Baroness Pontalba, who was a good friend and rumored mistress of Jackson, said she would pay for the entire thing.  IF they had the statue facing HER apartments and tipping his hat to them.  When the city couldn't raise enough money, they finally acquiesced to her demands.

For a little more depth to the story, Jackson was the first President to shake a woman's hand instead of tipping his hat.  Not because he saw women as equals, but because he was "too important" to tip his hat to anybody.

The Pontalba Apartments was the first apartment building in the U.S.  They are still there to this day, though the first floor is now retail spaces.

And the statue of Jackson?  Still tipping his hat to the Baroness's building.

Heffalump

short+sassy said:

I wonder if he even realizes that his idolatry of Jackson will alienate many Native Americans.  Or perhaps he just doesn't care.

It's so weird to me that he seems to see himself in Jackson.  These are the two reasons off the top of my head:

• Jackson was the "people's president" because he was the first POTUS who came from humble beginnings instead of the upper class.  Not true of Trump at all.  And, of course, by "people".  They really only meant white men.  Okay, that part is true for Trump.
• Jackson thought America was ONLY for immigrants.  It was the Native People who needed to be persecuted.  Trump only likes immigrants who were previously super models.

I'm stuck there, too. 

Hunting down runaway slaves: The cruel ads of Andrew Jackson and ‘the master class’

“Stop the Runaway,” Andrew Jackson urged in an ad placed in the Tennessee Gazette in October 1804. The future president gave a detailed description: A “Mulatto Man Slave, about thirty years old, six feet and an inch high, stout made and active, talks sensible, stoops in his walk, and has a remarkable large foot, broad across the root of the toes — will pass for a free man.…”

Jackson, who would become the country’s seventh commander in chief in 1829, promised anyone who captured this “Mulatto Man Slave” a reward of $50, plus “reasonable” expenses paid.

Jackson added a line that some historians find particularly cruel.

It offered “ten dollars extra, for every hundred lashes any person will give him, to the amount of three hundred.”
The ad was signed, “ANDREW JACKSON, Near Nashville, State of Tennessee.”

kimmiinthemitten

short+sassy said:

I wonder if he even realizes that his idolatry of Jackson will alienate many Native Americans.  Or perhaps he just doesn't care.

It's so weird to me that he seems to see himself in Jackson.  These are the two reasons off the top of my head:

Jackson had the reputation for being a tough guy and a provocateur, that's why Trump thinks he's like him.

That and Guiliani and Bannon said so so it must be true.

short+sassy

kimmiinthemitten said:

short+sassy said:

I wonder if he even realizes that his idolatry of Jackson will alienate many Native Americans.  Or perhaps he just doesn't care.

It's so weird to me that he seems to see himself in Jackson.  These are the two reasons off the top of my head:

Jackson had the reputation for being a tough guy and a provocateur, that's why Trump thinks he's like him.

That and Guiliani and Bannon said so so it must be true.

Thanks, got it!  More like hero worship to something he'll never be.

I'll play the "I wonder" game too.  Me:  "Trump, if you were born into poverty like Jackson, do you think you still would have conquered the commercial real estate world and be President now?"  I would tend to strongly doubt that.  Though I suppose it is within the realm of possibility.

"Trump, could you rise up your troops...outmanned and outgunned by 10... and come out victorious?"  Oh, that's right.  You've never served a day of your life in the military.  So let's just chalk that up to...not even a chance.

"Trump, will you spend a large portion of your presidency persecuting and torturing entire groups of people just based on who they are and/or their nationality?"  Mea culpa.  You do have something in common with Jackson.

ernursej

Good grief. I'm Canadian (yes I know that the Civil War is a part of our history ... but not like US history) and I know more about the Civil War than he does!