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MyNameIsNot

@short+sassy The majority of employees at my work are remote, but if we want to go onto campus, we have to show a vaccine and also fill out a form where you state whether or not you've had a known exposure, show symptoms or tested positive/live with someone who did within like 10 days, but they don't actually make you get tested or show it. I know there's a separate process and rules for people who have to go in, but I don't know what those are. 

short+sassy

banana468 said:

According to our HR department, HIPAA applies to COVID-19 testing results.  In addition, if employees at my employer test positive, they can return to work after the 6th day of isolation if they are fever-free with no medication for at least 24 hours.  They understand that loss of taste and smell and a cough can linger and one does not need to be symptom free to return to work.  While I WFH we have numerous employees who must be on site in order to perform their jobs (we are a mfg company).  

Is your tenant Shirley Temple?  She's tap dancing all over the place. 

Thanks to all of you for your responses!  And for reading my super long post in the first place, lol.

And a special bingo to this.  That makes sense and why I haven't really heard of employers requiring being shown the actual test results.  To be fair, she didn't specifically say that either.  Just that she can't go back to work until she tests negative on a PCR test, which I wouldn't think they could stipulate that either.

When I notified my HR of my exposure, I was specifically told they did NOT require me to get tested.

My H and I talked about it last night and are going to stand firm that she needs to pay the $705 by the 19th, like she originally promised.

But this gives me more ammunition to be "helpful" on her rights as an employee.

banana468

short+sassy said:

banana468 said:

According to our HR department, HIPAA applies to COVID-19 testing results.  In addition, if employees at my employer test positive, they can return to work after the 6th day of isolation if they are fever-free with no medication for at least 24 hours.  They understand that loss of taste and smell and a cough can linger and one does not need to be symptom free to return to work.  While I WFH we have numerous employees who must be on site in order to perform their jobs (we are a mfg company).  

Is your tenant Shirley Temple?  She's tap dancing all over the place. 

Thanks to all of you for your responses!  And for reading my super long post in the first place, lol.

And a special bingo to this.  That makes sense and why I haven't really heard of employers requiring being shown the actual test results.  To be fair, she didn't specifically say that either.  Just that she can't go back to work until she tests negative on a PCR test, which I wouldn't think they could stipulate that either.

When I notified my HR of my exposure, I was specifically told they did NOT require me to get tested.

My H and I talked about it last night and are going to stand firm that she needs to pay the $705 by the 19th, like she originally promised.

But this gives me more ammunition to be "helpful" on her rights as an employee.

She's clearly lying to you.  I know that as a landlord you don't want to say, "There's no way your employer can hold your money hostage.  Do you want me to go with you to talk to them?" but it is absolutely not passing my smell test. 

The stories are changing and too convenient to keep up PLUS if you force them then you're the evil landlord while they're suffering due to the pandemic.  

CharmedPam

Yeah I have nevee heard of that, @short+sassy.  Not saying an employer account doesn’t exist, but I’ve never heard of such thing!

levioosa

PCR tests can indeed test positive for weeks or months after initial infection. That doesn’t mean you are still infectious though. For the most part you pass over that hump by day ten (this five day quarantine is bullshit). There are some outliers, like the immunocompromised or people who are severely severely ill, but for the most part you’re good after the ten days as long as your symptoms have improved and you’re fever free. We are having some employers in the area require negative tests. I’ve had to send some patients with CDC guidelines and a doctors note before. It’s crazy. 

charlotte989875

Yah so we’re a Bank and there’s no way we would require someone to have a work account where there money is deposited and could only be withdrawn in person. That’s not legal. 

As for tests- starting last Monday we now require vaccinations or weekly negative testing; but we don’t require a negative PCR (or rapid) to return to the office. We require following CDC guidelines for isolation but also have 10 days Covid PTO. 

short+sassy

charlotte989875 said:

Yah so we’re a Bank and there’s no way we would require someone to have a work account where there money is deposited and could only be withdrawn in person. That’s not legal. 

As for tests- starting last Monday we now require vaccinations or weekly negative testing; but we don’t require a negative PCR (or rapid) to return to the office. We require following CDC guidelines for isolation but also have 10 days Covid PTO. 

I assume whatever "work savings account" she is talking about isn't something mandatory, but something she chose to do to get paid because neither she nor her mother have a bank account.  But yeah, nothing about it makes sense.

I don't have to tell you that banking is highly regulated.  I'd think if employers wanted to allow employees to open in-house savings accounts, they'd suddenly find themselves falling under those regulations also and no employer wants that!  Though employers do illegal stuff all the time, either because they don't know better or don't care.

At any rate, I'm just very done with it.  I'm sorry they are having whatever problems they are having, but they need to figure it out themselves or leave.  I'll also suggest she could go to a payday loan place if she still can't "access her work" to pay her rent.  They don't "require a PCR test" and then she can pay that off when she can get to her "workplace savings".

charlotte989875

short+sassy said:

charlotte989875 said:

Yah so we’re a Bank and there’s no way we would require someone to have a work account where there money is deposited and could only be withdrawn in person. That’s not legal. 

As for tests- starting last Monday we now require vaccinations or weekly negative testing; but we don’t require a negative PCR (or rapid) to return to the office. We require following CDC guidelines for isolation but also have 10 days Covid PTO. 

I assume whatever "work savings account" she is talking about isn't something mandatory, but something she chose to do to get paid because neither she nor her mother have a bank account.  But yeah, nothing about it makes sense.

I don't have to tell you that banking is highly regulated.  I'd think if employers wanted to allow employees to open in-house savings accounts, they'd suddenly find themselves falling under those regulations also and no employer wants that!  Though employers do illegal stuff all the time, either because they don't know better or don't care.

At any rate, I'm just very done with it.  I'm sorry they are having whatever problems they are having, but they need to figure it out themselves or leave.  I'll also suggest she could go to a payday loan place if she still can't "access her work" to pay her rent.  They don't "require a PCR test" and then she can pay that off when she can get to her "workplace savings".

YUP. 

I mean we have employee discounts on our accounts (better rates, etc.) as part of our benefits but it’s still on existing products. I could more likely see she was paid in cash/ had a physical paycheck and had to pick that up in person but couldn’t go in because she had Covid. At least that sounds plausible. 

banana468

charlotte989875 said:

short+sassy said:

charlotte989875 said:

Yah so we’re a Bank and there’s no way we would require someone to have a work account where there money is deposited and could only be withdrawn in person. That’s not legal. 

As for tests- starting last Monday we now require vaccinations or weekly negative testing; but we don’t require a negative PCR (or rapid) to return to the office. We require following CDC guidelines for isolation but also have 10 days Covid PTO. 

I assume whatever "work savings account" she is talking about isn't something mandatory, but something she chose to do to get paid because neither she nor her mother have a bank account.  But yeah, nothing about it makes sense.

I don't have to tell you that banking is highly regulated.  I'd think if employers wanted to allow employees to open in-house savings accounts, they'd suddenly find themselves falling under those regulations also and no employer wants that!  Though employers do illegal stuff all the time, either because they don't know better or don't care.

At any rate, I'm just very done with it.  I'm sorry they are having whatever problems they are having, but they need to figure it out themselves or leave.  I'll also suggest she could go to a payday loan place if she still can't "access her work" to pay her rent.  They don't "require a PCR test" and then she can pay that off when she can get to her "workplace savings".

YUP. 

I mean we have employee discounts on our accounts (better rates, etc.) as part of our benefits but it’s still on existing products. I could more likely see she was paid in cash/ had a physical paycheck and had to pick that up in person but couldn’t go in because she had Covid. At least that sounds plausible. 

If only we had a system in this country where you could take the check and put it in an envelope and a magical carrier could take it from one location to another. 

Hence why none of what this tenant says is making sense.  She may as well say that she can't get you your rent money because she needs the fuel for the flux capacitor to travel back in time but the fuel is located through the wardrobe in Narnia and when she got back from Narnia the animals gave her Covid and then she left her check in Narnia which then picked it up like a feather and it could be on the park bench next to Forrest Gump's chocolate box. 

ei34

banana468 said:

charlotte989875 said:

short+sassy said:

charlotte989875 said:

Yah so we’re a Bank and there’s no way we would require someone to have a work account where there money is deposited and could only be withdrawn in person. That’s not legal. 

As for tests- starting last Monday we now require vaccinations or weekly negative testing; but we don’t require a negative PCR (or rapid) to return to the office. We require following CDC guidelines for isolation but also have 10 days Covid PTO. 

I assume whatever "work savings account" she is talking about isn't something mandatory, but something she chose to do to get paid because neither she nor her mother have a bank account.  But yeah, nothing about it makes sense.

I don't have to tell you that banking is highly regulated.  I'd think if employers wanted to allow employees to open in-house savings accounts, they'd suddenly find themselves falling under those regulations also and no employer wants that!  Though employers do illegal stuff all the time, either because they don't know better or don't care.

At any rate, I'm just very done with it.  I'm sorry they are having whatever problems they are having, but they need to figure it out themselves or leave.  I'll also suggest she could go to a payday loan place if she still can't "access her work" to pay her rent.  They don't "require a PCR test" and then she can pay that off when she can get to her "workplace savings".

YUP. 

I mean we have employee discounts on our accounts (better rates, etc.) as part of our benefits but it’s still on existing products. I could more likely see she was paid in cash/ had a physical paycheck and had to pick that up in person but couldn’t go in because she had Covid. At least that sounds plausible. 

If only we had a system in this country where you could take the check and put it in an envelope and a magical carrier could take it from one location to another. 

Hence why none of what this tenant says is making sense.  She may as well say that she can't get you your rent money because she needs the fuel for the flux capacitor to travel back in time but the fuel is located through the wardrobe in Narnia and when she got back from Narnia the animals gave her Covid and then she left her check in Narnia which then picked it up like a feather and it could be on the park bench next to Forrest Gump's chocolate box. 

^it'd be really cool if S+S's tenant was the Disney/HP-hating LW from a couple weeks ago and did actually have to deal with all of these things as payback for giving their landlord the run-around 

short+sassy

charlotte989875 said:

short+sassy said:

charlotte989875 said:

Yah so we’re a Bank and there’s no way we would require someone to have a work account where there money is deposited and could only be withdrawn in person. That’s not legal. 

As for tests- starting last Monday we now require vaccinations or weekly negative testing; but we don’t require a negative PCR (or rapid) to return to the office. We require following CDC guidelines for isolation but also have 10 days Covid PTO. 

I assume whatever "work savings account" she is talking about isn't something mandatory, but something she chose to do to get paid because neither she nor her mother have a bank account.  But yeah, nothing about it makes sense.

I don't have to tell you that banking is highly regulated.  I'd think if employers wanted to allow employees to open in-house savings accounts, they'd suddenly find themselves falling under those regulations also and no employer wants that!  Though employers do illegal stuff all the time, either because they don't know better or don't care.

At any rate, I'm just very done with it.  I'm sorry they are having whatever problems they are having, but they need to figure it out themselves or leave.  I'll also suggest she could go to a payday loan place if she still can't "access her work" to pay her rent.  They don't "require a PCR test" and then she can pay that off when she can get to her "workplace savings".

YUP. 

I mean we have employee discounts on our accounts (better rates, etc.) as part of our benefits but it’s still on existing products. I could more likely see she was paid in cash/ had a physical paycheck and had to pick that up in person but couldn’t go in because she had Covid. At least that sounds plausible. 

I was wondering if that was what she meant, but she did keep calling it her work savings account.

I was also going to suggest that, even if she usually goes in person to access her work savings account, they will certainly mail her a check if she requests it.  She can take it to a check cashing place or deposit the whole thing into my bank account, if she wants to.

That's how they pay me.  They deposit cash into my business checking.  I'm not a fan of them depositing 3rd party checks made payable to one of them into my checking, but they've done it before and I've never had one bounce back.  I've always been a little surprised my bank allows it.

Back in the olden days when I was a teller at Bank of America, we allowed that, but only if both people were present and had their IDs.  The person for whom the check was made payable to and the person who held the account.