Monday

ei34

How was everyone's weekend other than cold?  Mine was busier than I like but kids have fun at their parties for the most part.  Stbxh did open the door on Friday for his birthday celebration but was out of line in a few different ways, don't even feel like going into them but ugh.  Should be a pretty lowkey enough week though, hopefully.  How's everyone else?

MissKittyDanger

Original plan was to see M's nanny on Saturday, but she had a celebration of life to go to. So M & BK are going next Saturday while I basically sleep off the freezing from my dentist appt.
I did make it to Value Village. I got 2 tops and a blazer. $20!

Sunday not much. Hit the gym and lunch. BK and I chilled on couch - I fell asleep but she just lay there for awhile.


With all the b.s netflix is doing - who's dropping netflix?
We are, my mum is, MIL and SFIL are - so BIL & SIL are.

Casadena

Weekend was great. The bday party on Saturday was actually very fun and it was nice to chat with some other parents from school while the kiddos ran around. G warmed up and actually did some activities (was glued to me the whole time at the last birthday party we took him to). H was in a great mood all weekend which was honestly surprising but a really nice change of pace. We ordered dinner, etc, etc on Saturday night after kiddos were asleep and it was so nice.

IL's came over yesterday and it was fine. We got a few things done around the house. MIL spent 2 of the 5 hours they were over sitting in my living room talking on the phone. That's super fucking rude, right? Like, don't whine to us all the time about not seeing the kids enough and then come over and not spend time with them. I don't get it. I know H was super annoyed too. 

overall good weekend though. I'm not ready for the work week. 

climbingsingle

Weekend was good, but different than we planned. My brother and SIL to had reschedule my nephew's 1st birthday party since they were all sick. So it will be this Saturday instead. 

We ran errands on Saturday (in the freezing cold!) and then got pizza and wine for the rest of the afternoon. The kids were pretty much off doing their own things for most of the weekend. Caught up on The Last of Us - OMG did that 3rd episode make me cry my eyes out. 
Did laundry and cleaning yesterday, put more of the bedroom back together. It's slowly coming together. 

As far as Netflix goes, I saw some update that the password login rules now didn't apply to the the US. So I have no plans to cancel. We have on our account and only share it with the kids, who mostly just watch it our house anyway. 

MissKittyDanger

climbingsingle said:

As far as Netflix goes, I saw some update that the password login rules now didn't apply to the the US. So I have no plans to cancel. We have on our account and only share it with the kids, who mostly just watch it our house anyway. 

What!?
I thought all this was everywhere!

short+sassy

I closed on Duplex #2 on Friday!  A little weird to have them gone.  They were great properties, but I sometimes feel like they were cursed, lol.

There was so much that went wrong with that pair.  Many things during the renovations in 2019.  The horrible "mini-nursing home" business tenant who was a deadbeat on all four rents in Jan. 2022.  Then the roof blew off one last month and major, expensive piping problems for both during the inspection periods.

But, despite all that.  They did end up being great investments, which is the most important part.

On Sunday, we picked up a cream cheese filled king cake from our favorite bakery.  This place also has delicious banh mi sandwiches, so we got some of those for lunch.  Plus a couple extras for leftovers.

Overall, a relaxing and pleasant weekend.

climbingsingle

MKD - if you google, a bunch of articles come up, saying it was shared on their site "by accident"

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a42766607/netflix-anti-password-sharing-rules-accident/

banana468

I'm not seeing the Netflix rules as anything huge.  What am I missing?  The articles I'm seeing show that it's cracking down on password sharing through devices.   We have it in the house and on our devices so I want to watch to see if it is going to be an issue watching from more than one device at a time.  So far it hasn't been a problem.  We're also not subscribers to regular cable so Netflix is one of the ways we watch new conten and it's still less expensive and with no ads compared to Hulu and other streaming services. 

Weekend was busy!  We went out for DH's birthday Friday night and Saturday Chiquita and I camped.  It was COLD.COLD.COLD.  But we made it before going into the heated yurt.  It was about 15 degrees F until we went inside and it was frustrating for the leader with some girls trying to hang out in the yurt.  I think one of Chiquita's friends isn't long for the group and the friend's mom is a friend of mine but I think she's coddled a bit.  Yesterday it went up to be much warmer and when we left the camp it was in the upper 30s.  We stopped by my parents' on the way home and celebrated my mom's birthday before unpacking and crashing.  I think I still need another day to recover! 

MyNameIsNot

Weekend was pretty chill. Did a few things around the house and got to go out for a date night Saturday. I had probably the best ravioli I've ever had. I'm still thinking about them. 

Today I'm tired and trying to force myself to give a crap about the boring project that I should be working on. MIL is getting in tonight to stay for the week for H's birthday (tomorrow). I'm glad she comes to visit, but I really wish she would come more on weekends instead of during the week. 

MissKittyDanger

climbingsingle said:

MKD - if you google, a bunch of articles come up, saying it was shared on their site "by accident"

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a42766607/netflix-anti-password-sharing-rules-accident/

oh see even news outlets picked it up here because they're implementing it here in April 

It'll be fun to watch them back pedal because the damage is already done.

banana468

MissKittyDanger said:

climbingsingle said:

MKD - if you google, a bunch of articles come up, saying it was shared on their site "by accident"

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a42766607/netflix-anti-password-sharing-rules-accident/

oh see even news outlets picked it up here because they're implementing it here in April 

It'll be fun to watch them back pedal because the damage is already done.

Curious - what's the feeling where you are about the damage in terms of why people are leaving?   From what I read the PW sharing biggest issue would be if you had a college student living out of the house on the parent account. 

Casadena

My parents and my sister both use our netflix and hulu accounts, so that would be annoying if they got kicked off because we're literally all over the world. Not expensive for anyone to have their own for sure, but definitely an inconvenience. So far we're not changing anything. 

climbingsingle

I share my Hulu account with an old coworker. And I have a few friends that use Peacock. I've thankfully heard of no changes to those. 

The Netflix thing seems like you'd need the device to sign in on the "home" wifi one every 30 days. Which agreed, I think it would at most be a problem if you've got kids in college or your travel a lot. 

ei34

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

mrsconn23

Good morning.  I am dragging all the ass today.  The weekend was good, but did not get near enough rest and partied a little hard Saturday night.  

We did go to a family friend's 1 year old's bday yesterday.  She was a preemie and her NICU nurses were at the party, which I found so friggin' sweet.  Mom was tearing up when she introduced them to all of us.  

FIL and DefConn went to IL to visit family over the weekend.  DefConn was in heaven because they went to a semi-truck convention and he got to hang out with his favorite cousins.  They didn't get back until almost 9pm last night because FIL didn't 'make good choices' Saturday night and had to spend yesterday 'recovering' so he could drive home. DH and I were annoyed, but I know DefConn was well taken care of by DH's cousins. We just missed our kid and also didn't want him home too late or else today would have been a bitch getting him up and going. 

DH is on a work trip.  His resume was requested by the higher ups, so I think the promotion stuff is moving along.  It's just hurry up and wait and I hate that shit.  

I'm so glad DefConn just has practice tonight.  We can spend most of the evening chilling since I made easy dinner plans while DH is OOT. 

banana468

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

climbingsingle

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

This is where I'm at too. I'm trying to understand and not be dismissive. But when I see people calling for a boycott of Netflix, it's just...really? The basic monthly service with ads is $6.99. 

VarunaTT

I tried to get an answer on the Netflix thing b/c I do share with someone just to help them out.  It seems that the only requirement is that you log in once every 31 days on the OG home device, which I'm on it practically every day, so I don't see that it should be an issue?  I was a little confused b/c are people sharing accounts where the original owner isn't watching at all?  I'm not going back to paying for cable; it's about time for me to do my 1st of the year analysis and every year since I've been doing it, even with paying for the streaming services I do, it's cheaper and more convenient than having cable again right now.

The weekend was okay.  I came into work on Saturday.  I'm just trying to do the grunt work on Saturdays to get these files caught up and in shape, so that I can actually move them forward.  Then went over to a friend's for dinner.  I felt a little odd man out, but I was just being quiet and listening, watching everyone.  It was nice to be out of the house and just soaking up good energy.  Sunday I just read, watched some television, and slept.  I think I'm past most of the physical withdrawal of Lexapro, but I'm still learning to manage my emotions again.  Plus my period is next week, so I ended up crying at whatever it is I was watching.  Like...3 times.  I'm tired of hormones!!

Otherwise, SSDD.

levioosa

I think the frustration at Netflix prices and sharing is a combination of different things. One, everything used to be on cable, so you could pay one price and it was all in one place. Now cable has different things from Netflix, from Hulu, from Peacock, from Amazon. That’s a lot of extra streaming services to pay for, and when you add it up it is all over cable prices back in the day. Add on to it ridiculous inflation and it’s not just that the Netflix is now $17, it’s that everything else is bonkers expensive. I went to buy my low carb tortillas at the store yesterday. Eight fucking tortillas cost me $6. They used to be $3.50 less than a year ago. 

Weekend was pretty good. Family dinner got canceled because grandma and my dad weren’t feeling well. H and I had a date night instead. Then yesterday we recovered from our date night and watched the Last of Us episode 4 and went on a nice walk. It felt nice just to slow down for a day. Today I am taking all of the kids to the vet and it’s exhausting. Hike later today I think. 

Casadena

climbingsingle said:

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

This is where I'm at too. I'm trying to understand and not be dismissive. But when I see people calling for a boycott of Netflix, it's just...really? The basic monthly service with ads is $6.99. 

@banana468 but if it's streaming i dont' understand why you'd have to pay for one in CT and one in FL (from your example). It makes sense to me that there be a device limit - like only 2 or 3 can be streaming at the same time from the same account, but i dont' understand how its "taking advantage" or "getting away" with something if they're not in the same home?

I dont' personally care either way, i'll pay for netflix no matter what because i like the content. 

ei34

levioosa said:

I think the frustration at Netflix prices and sharing is a combination of different things. One, everything used to be on cable, so you could pay one price and it was all in one place. Now cable has different things from Netflix, from Hulu, from Peacock, from Amazon. That’s a lot of extra streaming services to pay for, and when you add it up it is all over cable prices back in the day. Add on to it ridiculous inflation and it’s not just that the Netflix is now $17, it’s that everything else is bonkers expensive. I went to buy my low carb tortillas at the store yesterday. Eight fucking tortillas cost me $6. They used to be $3.50 less than a year ago. 

Weekend was pretty good. Family dinner got canceled because grandma and my dad weren’t feeling well. H and I had a date night instead. Then yesterday we recovered from our date night and watched the Last of Us episode 4 and went on a nice walk. It felt nice just to slow down for a day. Today I am taking all of the kids to the vet and it’s exhausting. Hike later today I think. 

I think the "right" way to do streaming (in quotes bc I know that's not really a thing, screen time is personal and subjective) is to drop streaming service A and then add streaming service B, as opposed to just having them all at once. Cable didn't have every episode of a particular show for one to view all at once so I think it's hard to compare cable and streaming.  But to your bolded yeah I imagine that would be expensive, all of them at once.  But, anything screen-related from me needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, after extra currics and dinner and homework and baths and making lunches for tomorrow and bedtime and grading student work and trying to be in bed by 9:30ish, I might watch 15-30 minutes of TV per day?  I would never need more than one streaming service at a time, only bc I just don't use it often enough to justify it.  So streaming services for me are a major want.
Low carb tortillas, on the other hand, are definitely a need in my book, and I'm totally with you on feeling frustrated over surging prices on necessities!

MissKittyDanger

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

So what I'm seeing is if it's not parents paying for kids who are away, it's adult kids paying for their parents.

My mum is not incapable with tech, but she refuses to do credit card on a streaming service.
She offered to pay when Netflix was saying to pay separate fee if you have an increased amount for shared accounts.

Netflix is forgetting that boomers won't keep the streaming service.
Gen Z gives zero fucks.

And millennials like me?
We gonna teach torrents  

As M & I were joking - VIVA LIMEWIRE!

MissKittyDanger

BK being silly 

short+sassy

@MissKittyDanger, BK is so adorable in her dragon cape!

banana468

Casadena said:

climbingsingle said:

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

This is where I'm at too. I'm trying to understand and not be dismissive. But when I see people calling for a boycott of Netflix, it's just...really? The basic monthly service with ads is $6.99. 

@banana468 but if it's streaming i dont' understand why you'd have to pay for one in CT and one in FL (from your example). It makes sense to me that there be a device limit - like only 2 or 3 can be streaming at the same time from the same account, but i dont' understand how its "taking advantage" or "getting away" with something if they're not in the same home?

I dont' personally care either way, i'll pay for netflix no matter what because i like the content. 

Or...a different code if you have a couple watching in two places? 

I guess I see this as figuring out the kind of system you want and maybe you're onto something with the # of users.  Similarly in my own home we have four people.  So we could one day have all four people watching something.  But then look into a different way to tier that so that you're charging based on bandwidth use? 

But if you are not living with your parents and have a separate mortgage then you should be on your own Netflix account.  Similarly if it was a cable bill you'd be paying to watch TV in one home vs. the other.  And your cable supplier requires you to log in with your log in details to watch via app from another place.  So I can't just stream the Grammy's or an award show if I don't have regular cable TV.    And the high speed internet that you get in your FL home is not what you get in your CT home.  

I don't know - I can actually understand to a degree why they're attempting to come up with rules otherwise eventually you'd have a lot of people abusing the system making it worse for the rest of us but would support some concept that if you're in a position of having a dad often working from say FL, mom still in CT and the kids in college then they pay extra to stream from 3 locations vs. what is the norm in my house which is to stream from usually 1 - maybe 2.   

climbingsingle

Eh. Most of the boomers in my family (including my parents) have dropped cable and now all stream. So I don't really think it's accurate to paint everyone with the same brush. And my relatives are all on the older side of the boomer age range. 

Either way, I just don't see the calls for boycotting it over something like this. The basic Netflix package is $6.99. Less than a dozen eggs near me.  

banana468

climbingsingle said:

Eh. Most of the boomers in my family (including my parents) have dropped cable and now all stream. So I don't really think it's accurate to paint everyone with the same brush. And my relatives are all on the older side of the boomer age range. 

Either way, I just don't see the calls for boycotting it over something like this. The basic Netflix package is $6.99. Less than a dozen eggs near me.  

Yup.  And I'm seeing more Gen X and Millenials that are sharing their parents Netflix accounts and our parents are in their lower to mid 70s.  I'm not really buying the concept that boomers don't use credit cards either or that it's a viable excuse. 

We deal with that with MIL who literally calls her orders into QVC but....does it with a credit card.   But it's also my BIL and SIL who years ago said that they didn't pay for Netflix because they used her parents' subscription.   It had nothing to do with cost.  They didn't pay for it because they got away with not having to do it.  And I think it's that demographic that they're trying to stop and I don't really have a lot of sympathy for people who don't want to pay less than $120 for a basic service that gives them the option to watch a ton of TV shows and movies in feigned outrage. 

Casadena

banana468 said:

Casadena said:

climbingsingle said:

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

This is where I'm at too. I'm trying to understand and not be dismissive. But when I see people calling for a boycott of Netflix, it's just...really? The basic monthly service with ads is $6.99. 

@banana468 but if it's streaming i dont' understand why you'd have to pay for one in CT and one in FL (from your example). It makes sense to me that there be a device limit - like only 2 or 3 can be streaming at the same time from the same account, but i dont' understand how its "taking advantage" or "getting away" with something if they're not in the same home?

I dont' personally care either way, i'll pay for netflix no matter what because i like the content. 

Or...a different code if you have a couple watching in two places? 

I guess I see this as figuring out the kind of system you want and maybe you're onto something with the # of users.  Similarly in my own home we have four people.  So we could one day have all four people watching something.  But then look into a different way to tier that so that you're charging based on bandwidth use? 

But if you are not living with your parents and have a separate mortgage then you should be on your own Netflix account.  Similarly if it was a cable bill you'd be paying to watch TV in one home vs. the other.  And your cable supplier requires you to log in with your log in details to watch via app from another place.  So I can't just stream the Grammy's or an award show if I don't have regular cable TV.    And the high speed internet that you get in your FL home is not what you get in your CT home.  

I don't know - I can actually understand to a degree why they're attempting to come up with rules otherwise eventually you'd have a lot of people abusing the system making it worse for the rest of us but would support some concept that if you're in a position of having a dad often working from say FL, mom still in CT and the kids in college then they pay extra to stream from 3 locations vs. what is the norm in my house which is to stream from usually 1 - maybe 2.   

banana468 said:

Casadena said:

climbingsingle said:

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

This is where I'm at too. I'm trying to understand and not be dismissive. But when I see people calling for a boycott of Netflix, it's just...really? The basic monthly service with ads is $6.99. 

@banana468 but if it's streaming i dont' understand why you'd have to pay for one in CT and one in FL (from your example). It makes sense to me that there be a device limit - like only 2 or 3 can be streaming at the same time from the same account, but i dont' understand how its "taking advantage" or "getting away" with something if they're not in the same home?

I dont' personally care either way, i'll pay for netflix no matter what because i like the content. 

Or...a different code if you have a couple watching in two places? 

I guess I see this as figuring out the kind of system you want and maybe you're onto something with the # of users.  Similarly in my own home we have four people.  So we could one day have all four people watching something.  But then look into a different way to tier that so that you're charging based on bandwidth use? 

But if you are not living with your parents and have a separate mortgage then you should be on your own Netflix account.  Similarly if it was a cable bill you'd be paying to watch TV in one home vs. the other.  And your cable supplier requires you to log in with your log in details to watch via app from another place.  So I can't just stream the Grammy's or an award show if I don't have regular cable TV.    And the high speed internet that you get in your FL home is not what you get in your CT home.  

I don't know - I can actually understand to a degree why they're attempting to come up with rules otherwise eventually you'd have a lot of people abusing the system making it worse for the rest of us but would support some concept that if you're in a position of having a dad often working from say FL, mom still in CT and the kids in college then they pay extra to stream from 3 locations vs. what is the norm in my house which is to stream from usually 1 - maybe 2.   

I understand where youre coming from for sure. I think part of what i pay for streaming for (compared to cable) is convenience. I want to be able to watch it on whatever device I have wherever i am. For example, I want to be able to log in to netflix on the hospital tv, or my ipad or phone in the waiting room with G, or even in the car if we wanted to, or on an airplane. I don't want the limiting factor for access to be my house. 

My parents use my account because i logged in at their house once and never logged out. They rarely use it and would nver pay for their own. My sister can buy her own account and would be fine with that. You're right that she uses mine just because she can. I still don't think it's taking advantage if we're not exceeding bandwidth or something - if i use it and she uses it, i don't see why it's any different or any worse than 2 or more separate people using it in my house specifically. 

banana468

Also, @MissKittyDanger you could also pay for the streaming for your mom and she pays you back so it's yours but she logs in with her own separate credentials if needed. 

But if you and your mom are on the same account and in two separate households I'll argue that you're in the exact group that Netflix needs to crack down on.  If she's watching Netflix in her house and you're watching it in your house then you're two separate households with the benefit of one account and IMO fear of credit card is not license use someone else's account without paying for it. 

banana468

Casadena said:

banana468 said:

Casadena said:

climbingsingle said:

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

This is where I'm at too. I'm trying to understand and not be dismissive. But when I see people calling for a boycott of Netflix, it's just...really? The basic monthly service with ads is $6.99. 

@banana468 but if it's streaming i dont' understand why you'd have to pay for one in CT and one in FL (from your example). It makes sense to me that there be a device limit - like only 2 or 3 can be streaming at the same time from the same account, but i dont' understand how its "taking advantage" or "getting away" with something if they're not in the same home?

I dont' personally care either way, i'll pay for netflix no matter what because i like the content. 

Or...a different code if you have a couple watching in two places? 

I guess I see this as figuring out the kind of system you want and maybe you're onto something with the # of users.  Similarly in my own home we have four people.  So we could one day have all four people watching something.  But then look into a different way to tier that so that you're charging based on bandwidth use? 

But if you are not living with your parents and have a separate mortgage then you should be on your own Netflix account.  Similarly if it was a cable bill you'd be paying to watch TV in one home vs. the other.  And your cable supplier requires you to log in with your log in details to watch via app from another place.  So I can't just stream the Grammy's or an award show if I don't have regular cable TV.    And the high speed internet that you get in your FL home is not what you get in your CT home.  

I don't know - I can actually understand to a degree why they're attempting to come up with rules otherwise eventually you'd have a lot of people abusing the system making it worse for the rest of us but would support some concept that if you're in a position of having a dad often working from say FL, mom still in CT and the kids in college then they pay extra to stream from 3 locations vs. what is the norm in my house which is to stream from usually 1 - maybe 2.   

banana468 said:

Casadena said:

climbingsingle said:

banana468 said:

ei34 said:

This was back in...October I think?...but I was actually happy with Netflix, stbxh was finally out and netflix was under his email, I wanted to branch off from him and decided to sign up-  we'd been paying $17/mo and when I went to sign up there was a $10 option, ad-free but no sharing, which was perfect bc I'm not into sharing streaming lol.  UO but I wish all streaming services offered a discount with a no-sharing rule, I feel like they'd be cheaper bc they must know people share with other households.  Again, this was a few months ago, if there's some sort of change coming that I haven't read about maybe I'll change my opinion on Netflix.  

@Casadena glad for the weekend you had minus MIL's weird phone time
@short+sassy congrats!

I think that's where I am.  And I "get" that you can argue for things like your college student wanting to be on the mom and dad membership but 20 years ago when I wanted to watch TV I had to get my own cable account in college so I'm not seeing this monthly rate (which is NOT that much) as something daunting.

Then again the people I know who are sharing their accounts are doing it because they can get away with it.   So IMO it's starting to be a bit of the concept that a few bad apples are spoiling it for the rest of the group actually paying.    If you need to be extending it as a person traveling so frequently you're rarely in your home location then maybe they need to extend it as a tiered service?  If you have houses in CT and FL then pay for the Netflix in both places.  If you had old school cable you'd be paying cable bills in both places so  I'm trying to figure out why that's a hardship.  

Not trying to be unfriendly but I'm attempting to understand the other side. 

This is where I'm at too. I'm trying to understand and not be dismissive. But when I see people calling for a boycott of Netflix, it's just...really? The basic monthly service with ads is $6.99. 

@banana468 but if it's streaming i dont' understand why you'd have to pay for one in CT and one in FL (from your example). It makes sense to me that there be a device limit - like only 2 or 3 can be streaming at the same time from the same account, but i dont' understand how its "taking advantage" or "getting away" with something if they're not in the same home?

I dont' personally care either way, i'll pay for netflix no matter what because i like the content. 

Or...a different code if you have a couple watching in two places? 

I guess I see this as figuring out the kind of system you want and maybe you're onto something with the # of users.  Similarly in my own home we have four people.  So we could one day have all four people watching something.  But then look into a different way to tier that so that you're charging based on bandwidth use? 

But if you are not living with your parents and have a separate mortgage then you should be on your own Netflix account.  Similarly if it was a cable bill you'd be paying to watch TV in one home vs. the other.  And your cable supplier requires you to log in with your log in details to watch via app from another place.  So I can't just stream the Grammy's or an award show if I don't have regular cable TV.    And the high speed internet that you get in your FL home is not what you get in your CT home.  

I don't know - I can actually understand to a degree why they're attempting to come up with rules otherwise eventually you'd have a lot of people abusing the system making it worse for the rest of us but would support some concept that if you're in a position of having a dad often working from say FL, mom still in CT and the kids in college then they pay extra to stream from 3 locations vs. what is the norm in my house which is to stream from usually 1 - maybe 2.   

I understand where youre coming from for sure. I think part of what i pay for streaming for (compared to cable) is convenience. I want to be able to watch it on whatever device I have wherever i am. For example, I want to be able to log in to netflix on the hospital tv, or my ipad or phone in the waiting room with G, or even in the car if we wanted to, or on an airplane. I don't want the limiting factor for access to be my house. 

My parents use my account because i logged in at their house once and never logged out. They rarely use it and would nver pay for their own. My sister can buy her own account and would be fine with that. You're right that she uses mine just because she can. I still don't think it's taking advantage if we're not exceeding bandwidth or something - if i use it and she uses it, i don't see why it's any different or any worse than 2 or more separate people using it in my house specifically. 

Also why I could support something like a system where there's a # of IP addresses or users on one account.

Heck, if I was a mother with quadruplets in separate colleges I can support the concept that those two adults and four kids are using up more bandwidth than my home and may need to pay more than my household.  But I think there's an overall concept that it's one login for all you want.

The best comparison I can come up with is that if you go to an all you can eat place the adults pay per person.  I can't go to the buffet with DH and not pay for myself and expect to eat off his plate and we eat the food of two people and only pay for one.  Maybe our smaller 8 yo with a small appetite can ride on with a 'kids eat for free' situation but that ends when the kid is the size of an adult.  And in the buffet analogy, sure there are trays of food but it needs to be prepared and maintained at correct temps with plenty of people behind the scenes working.  In the streaming service vein, the more users and the more bandwidth mean maintaining servers, content, etc and that comes at a cost because Netflix can "feel" the usage of the extra users just like the restaurant can notice at the end of the night if their profits are down because someone shared when they weren't supposed to. 

climbingsingle

From what I got from reading a few things, it seems like Netflix would track your devices/IP address, etc. So you can still log into your account in another location. It wouldn't stop you from logging in at another location, if traveling, for instance. Either way it seems to be on the backburner now.