I need to bitch

mandaloo502

So FI graduates and commissions in May, a week before the wedding. He just found out his BOLC date and its not till Feb of 2013! I'm really hoping he gets a tdy assignment to work LDAC or something, because I dont know what he would do in the meantime, be a cart pusher at Walmart? lol  Like I'm seriously worried that we are going to get married and I will be only one with a job/income and we'll have to live with my parents. ahhhh. I mean I guess there's worse things, just not the picture I had painted in my mind as newlyweds, KWIM? 

CAB1217

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[QUOTE]So FI graduates and commissions in May, a week before the wedding. He just found out his BOLC date and its not till Feb of 2013! I'm really hoping he gets a tdy assignment to work LDAC or something, because I dont know what he would do in the meantime, be a cart pusher at Walmart? lol  Like<strong> I'm seriously worried that we are going to get married and I will be only one with a job/income and we'll have to live with my parents. ahhhh. </strong>I mean I guess there's worse things, just not the picture I had painted in my mind as newlyweds, KWIM? 
Posted by mandaloo502[/QUOTE]
Annnnddddddd welcome to my world ;)

That is my EXACT situation, right now. It sucks, but it's not THAT bad. But it sucks. And, we live with HIS mom. Yeahhhhhh....

mandaloo502

oh man I guess there is worse than living with my parents, living with his parents! yikes. You deserve some serious credit for making that sacrifice. lol   

But seriously, anyone know of any places that would hire a 2LT for 6 months for more than minimum wage? ha

SamiJoeB

In general whenever we got less than ideal news from the military I just tried to have the attitude "It could always be worse".

H and I spent our entire first year of marriage apart.. and then some.

mandaloo502

I guess I need to adopt that attitude! At least we'll be together, it could definetly be worse. You're right. 

calindi

Mandaloo, I'd suggest he job hunt as if he was going to stay.  Don't tell them he's military, don't tell them he's waiting orders.  Just get a job.  May I suggest ADP or Paychex - it's easy outdoor sales, pays well enough, and is fairly stable and easy to get, and they have sales people EVERYWHERE.  Even waiting tables makes decent money.

Irishcurls

Won't he have a degree? Work for a temp agency? But like Cab said, it's a reality for some people....it could be worse.

mandaloo502

Yea, but his degree is in History lol. He wasnt planning on doing anything with it, he doesnt want to have any other job but be in the army. How do temp agencys work? Are they like job placements agencies but for temporary work? Do you know what kind of work you can get through that?

mandaloo502

He actually had a friend in last years class who went into Marines and worked at Walmart for 6 months while waiting to go to infantry school. Big job change there! lol

divinemsbee

My FI, BF at the time he commissioned, faced a similar difficulty, but it wasn't quite as long before he left. He commissioned in May at went to ASBC in late October. We were both living in his college town, which is also where his parents live. I was living on my own, had my job, and he would stay with me most of the week and go back to his parents occasionally. He got a summer/beginning of school job at the university he graduated from, working as a secretary in the Art Department. Is there any way that your FI could try to work for the university he attended? I know the one he went to, even though it wasn't a very big one, had several ways that one could work for them.

I've temped before, it was mainly office/secretarial work, making copies, filing, that sort of thing. It's not too bad. However, he's thrown into the job market right now with a liberal arts degree, and the market is, at best, rough. He doesn't have to tell them he'll be leaving, and actually, working somewhere like a mall would be good as they'll be looking for summer help, leading into back to school help, leading into Christmas help, which means, if he keeps his schedule flexible, he should be abel to pick up some decent hours.

If he wants to work, he can't afford to be snooty about it, or can only be picky within reason. I get that having a degree and being a 2LT is a big deal, but he's going to have to compete with the rest of all of those graduates who are baristas and waiters right now if he wants a job. I'm out there, and I may have a job now (finally), but it's tough work.

CAB1217

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[QUOTE]oh man I guess there is worse than living with my parents, living with his parents! yikes. You deserve some serious credit for making that sacrifice. lol    But seriously, anyone know of any places that would hire a 2LT for 6 months for more than minimum wage? ha
Posted by mandaloo502[/QUOTE]


Might I add, H can't get into the Army even of he paid them at this point. (No money for student dental scholarships right now.) So yeah, things are never certain, but you'll pull through! You do what you've gotta do for your futures. I don't like living with my MIL, but I know it will be better for us in the end. And, we are both very happy with each other, and to me that's the most important thing.

lrh17

Could he look into Gold Bar Recruiting for his university, or one near where you'll be living?  I believe there are limits on how long you can do that for, but you have a salary and benefits.  H was thinking about doing this, but he ended up in the opposite situation of your FI and left for BOLC shortly after Commissioning (and our wedding).  Unfortunately many of H's friends were stuck in the same position as your FI...some ended up traveling, some got a job for the interim time, and others worked in the ROTC office.  It's a tough situation, but I hope it all works out!

iluvmytxrgr

He could look into substitute teaching in the local school system.  He could wait tables.  He could apply at Home Depot. 

calindi

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[QUOTE]Yea, but his degree is in History lol. He wasnt planning on doing anything with it, he doesnt want to have any other job but be in the army. How do temp agencys work? Are they like job placements agencies but for temporary work? Do you know what kind of work you can get through that?
Posted by mandaloo502[/QUOTE]

He submits his resume to temp agencies and takes some typing tests usually and gets work as an administrative assistant or similar.  In cities, temp jobs usually pay $12-15 per hour.  Usually assignments are a few days, a few weeks, or a few months.  Some are temp-to-perm, but he just would decline any permanent work.  He can tell the temp agency he's only available 6 months, and they'll only give him assignments for that length of time maximum.

With a degree in history, perhaps he could substitute teach?  Seriously, though, my FI's plan if he didn't get temporary duty was to just get a sales job or any other job and just quit before he had to report to the military.  In this situation, I'd suggest NOT telling them it's temporary!

Irishcurls

My point was, regardless of what his degree is in, he chekcs that box and hops into the recent graduate job pool like everyone else in the world. It's really not that complicated. I would definitely suggest temp agencies for office work or a Home Depot type deal--they always need summer help moving mulch and stuff around.

BinxRose

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[QUOTE]My point was,<strong> regardless of what his degree is in, he chekcs that box and hops into the recent graduate job pool like everyone else in the world. It's really not that complicated.</strong> I would definitely suggest temp agencies for office work or a Home Depot type deal--they always need summer help moving mulch and stuff around.
Posted by Irishcurls[/QUOTE]

BINGO

crownsuperstar

H worked at a university recruiting for ROTC for the 6 months between his graduation and when Ranger school started.  Also, many university's admission office loook for "road runners" that only travel to recruit students for the next year.  One of our "road runners" that traveled from August-November recruiting students for the university and then reported in November for his Army training.  I would suggest he look at something like that. 

tyleet87

Honestly FI is temporarly working at Target for 4 months until our wedding and then he leaves for MP school. When he gets back he's going to the Sherrif's department. I'm the only one currently with a 'real' job.

mandaloo502

He put in for hometown recruiting at Texas A&M, and working as cadre for LDac and LTC in Lewis and Knox. Hopefully he gets one of them! I'm just concerned cause government is making major cuts to military spending so well see. If he does get to work at LDAC or LTC, it would only be for the summer, and once you are put on orders, the army cannot stop paying you. So basically he would still be getting paid from Sep to Feb and not be doing anything. That would be ideal! Haha.

ggirl2001

So it's ok to take money from the government and not work, but in the same paragraph you talk about the budget issues? Honestly, I now have no sympathy for you. He can get a freaking job doing anything if he really wante to. He can work two jobs if one doesn't pay enough. This isn't that hard or that big of a deal. It's 6 flipping months.

Irishcurls

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[QUOTE]So it's ok to take money from the government and not work, but in the same paragraph you talk about the budget issues? Honestly, I now have no sympathy for you. He can get a freaking job doing anything if he really wante to. He can work two jobs if one doesn't pay enough. This isn't that hard or that big of a deal. It's 6 flipping months.
Posted by ggirl2001[/QUOTE]
Right.

SamiJoeB

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[QUOTE]He put in for hometown recruiting at Texas A&M, and working as cadre for LDac and LTC in Lewis and Knox. Hopefully he gets one of them! I'm just concerned cause government is making major cuts to military spending so well see. If he does get to work at LDAC or LTC, it would only be for the summer, and once you are put on orders, the army cannot stop paying you. <strong>So basically he would still be getting paid from Sep to Feb and not be doing anything. That would be ideal!</strong> Haha.
Posted by mandaloo502[/QUOTE]

This is exactly the kind of officers I'd want in the military.. the ones who sit around doing nothing but still collecting a paycheck. I'm sure you halfway meant that as a joke.. but you had to know that this kind of a comment wouldn't be funny to 90% of the board.. and it shouldn't be funny to the other 10% either.

crownsuperstar

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[QUOTE]He put in for hometown recruiting at Texas A&M, and working as cadre for LDac and LTC in Lewis and Knox. Hopefully he gets one of them! I'm just concerned cause government is making major cuts to military spending so well see. If he does get to work at LDAC or LTC, it would only be for the summer, and once you are put on orders, the army cannot stop paying you. <strong>So basically he would still be getting paid from Sep to Feb and not be doing anything. That would be ideal! Haha.</strong>
Posted by mandaloo502[/QUOTE]

EEK!!! I think I would have left that out.  That can cause a lot of ill feelings.  Yikes. 

kara811

Sorry but this will be very bitchy of me. That little comment you made hits a nerve. Many of us here have SMs who are enlisted and works very hard for their salary. My H works countless hours and barely gets any sleep sometimes. To make a comment like that is just downright rude. And you sound a bit greedy with this whole thread. Why cant your FI work for minimum wage huh?? He's too good for it? Something is always better than nothing.

calindi

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[QUOTE]He put in for hometown recruiting at Texas A&M, and working as cadre for LDac and LTC in Lewis and Knox. Hopefully he gets one of them! I'm just concerned cause government is making major cuts to military spending so well see. If he does get to work at LDAC or LTC, it would only be for the summer, and once you are put on orders, the army cannot stop paying you. So basically he would still be getting paid from Sep to Feb and not be doing anything. That would be ideal! Haha.
Posted by mandaloo502[/QUOTE]

I don't know how the Army works, but I know for a fact that's not true in the Marines.  Temporary duty is a convenience they offer for people waiting for training slots.  I know a guy who got temporary duty but didn't get sworn into the bar by the date specified, so he lost all funding and is now unemployed since January 1st until he reports in May.  He's been on orders since August through December, and received his TBS orders in October. 

I hope he gets one of those, too, but you need a plan if he doesn't.  Biitching about it doesn't solve anything, and quite honestly it makes you look like you think your FI is too good for hourly work. 

A great job for military guys on a temporary basis is moving companies - they're hard labor, they lift and carry, and they get paid pretty well.  It's flexible, and it's not like he's going to need to put it on a resume later.  Also, bouncers at bars and clubs make good money and they like to hire people with military experience.

lrh17

Im pretty sure they move up BOLC dates for officers who do that, for the exact reason that they don't want to be paying them to sit around.

mandaloo502

Yea it was totally a joke. Some of you don't need to get your panties in a wad. Lighten up! And I don't think he's too good for hourly, that's just putting words in my mouth. We just didn't plan on him not going right in after graduation, so it's hard to picture doing something else when for years you had a plan in your mind and have been looking forward to it forever. But I realize it's the army and you can never count on anything. So lesson learned. And btw he is coming from being enlisted and when he's an officer will work just as hard, if not harder and longer hours. No need for comments like that.

mandaloo502

And I'm not th e one who makes the rules and never said I agree with the army paying people for not doing anything. I was just stating a fact, because, well it is. That's all.

ggirl2001

If 5 people tell you they were upset, then maybe take a look at how you worded it. All we have to go on is how you type it up, that's it. And since a few people made comments on it. I don't think we all have our panties in a twist. It was insulting and not needed. And nobody put words in your mouth. You made the comment about Walmart, no one else.

mandaloo502

Sorry if I offended anyone ( or their hubby's) . Didn't mean anything by it.

kara811

I wish I can quote but I can't. So it's a "fact" that Army soldiers get paid for nothing? I'm sure my friend in Afghanistan would LOVE this. He only gets shot at all day everyday out there......