Let's discuss some things...

Elle1036

Ok, I swear I mean this with genuine respectful curiosity and not in a "ew what are you thinking?" way, but can those of you who are voting for Romney please explain why? And if your reasons are just fiscal, as I would hope, does Romney's stance on women's and gay rights just not bother you? Or do you see it as less important? I'm just trying to see both sides.

dewingedpixie

Part of my reasoning is fiscal, part of my reasoning is international policy. Frankly I think they are both really crappy candidates and if Romney gets in I'd like him to be a one term president.

I personally also feel that no matter Romney's views on women's health or gay rights it wont affect the movements in either. I believe that women's health care will stay, and the gay rights movement has enough momentum to continue.

I however feel like if we continue on this current international policy and monetary path we are going to bankrupt our country and hurt ourselves further in our international relationships. These are two things I cant stand.

I also feel like Obama has done very little but place blame on someone else during his term and has been very unmoving towards the centerfield. Though Romney is very very conservative in his personal beliefs I feel he understands as a president he cant let those beliefs run his office he has to come closer to the center and accept his beliefs are not those of the nation live and let live.

Do I like Romney? Not really, but I like the comments out of Obama even less and I feel like we are in a very messy situation as a country right now and its not improving at all.

dewingedpixie

I'd personally prefer a candidate like Gary Johnson to win but that's not going to happen due to the way our system is set up. Which is a shame because I feel he is a much much better option than both of these candidates together.

audrewuh

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[QUOTE]I'd personally prefer a candidate like Gary Johnson to win but that's not going to happen due to the way our system is set up. Which is a shame because I feel he is a much much better option than both of these candidates together.
Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]

<div>I would really like it if Gary Johnson had a fighting chance. FI is voting for him and his vote is just as invalid as mine here in Texas. I could get behind a Libertarian candidate. </div>

dewingedpixie

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : I would really like it if Gary Johnson had a fighting chance. FI is voting for him and his vote is just as invalid as mine here in Texas. I could get behind a Libertarian candidate. 
Posted by audrewuh[/QUOTE]

I'm with you his ideas are very sound balance the budget get our poop in a sack, let people live their lives as they please. I really hate how polar the two on the ballet are I cant watch the news, etc due to the constant bickering and blaming its such a shame.

thejucheidea

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[QUOTE]hurt ourselves further in our international relationships
Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]

And you think that <em>Romney</em> is going to help with international relations? <em>Really</em>? I think that he'll ruin more relationships than he'll ameliorate.

fizzylemonade

1) What shoes are you wearing today? Black flats. Just plain ones for work.
2) How are you wearing your hair today? Up in a bun. Usually I straighten it but I was low on time last night/this am.
3) What do you have going on this weekend coming up? Studying and spending some time with BF. I want to get some work out of the way I've been letting build up.
4) Did you watch the debate last week? No, we don't have cable. I read about it though, but didn't really like what I read.
5) Who do you plan to vote for in the presidential election next month? I'm not American so I can't vote. 
6) Does it bother you that there is no (NHL) hockey? Not in the slightest.
7) What's something you're looking forward to in the next month? Halloween party! So excited for it.
8) What's something you're looking forward to in the next 3 months? Vacation over xmas!

9) Are there any movies out that you want to see? I have two sets of free movie tickets but BF and I haven't been to see anything in ages. We'll go see James Bond when it comes out next month.

10)  Is it "fall" where you live? It's getting there - leaves are turning and a few are falling.

11) Are you looking forward to winter? Not really. I don't like having to leave 15 minutes early to defrost the car and drive through snow.

12) What are you having/did you have for breakfast today? Frosties

13) Do you like scary movies? If so, what is your favorite? Nope, not at all. Even kiddy scary movies are too scary for me.

14) Are you dressing up for Halloween? Jane from the Volturi in the Twilight season. I've got red contact lenses!
15) What's your favorite Halloween candy? KitKats and Twixes. 

fizzylemonade

And to catch up...it's been a really long day so far!

Danser - congrats on your anniversary! And yay flowers!

Jen - Blue suade shoes sound so good! I've got a weakness for suade shoes. I love short boots in suade.

Jen & Elle - Parenthood is so good! I started watching S1 a couple of weeks ago and now I'm nearly at the end of S2. Lorelai is always going to be Lorelai though, and yes the casting is really good! It's also kinda what I hope my siblings and I are like in a decade or two.

Peek - what is GS training?

Hummingbird - what is a sock-bun?

Elle - I think the last day to register for the Federal election is the 12th. I don't know if this varies by region but BF was talking about it and I saw a poster.

Shoes - I those shoes!

rdr - I saw the photo on fb about gas prices. When I first moved here, just before Obama got into office, gas was about $3.50. I saw the photo and wondered how many others I have just believed because I didn't know differently. Even in the past week or so I've been more cynical about things I've seen on fb.

Drew - That's appalling that the teacher can teach politics under the guise of religion, and his way of doing it is awful. At least the kids have you in there to show them that there is a different way. Even if I agreed with the substance, there is a time and place. And religion class is not it.

fizzylemonade

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : And you think that Romney is going to help with international relations? Really ? I think that he'll ruin more relationships than he'll ameliorate.
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

Mmm he's not popular in England. He came over just before the Olympics and said that he thought that they weren't prepared for it. While he was IN England. Then he told everyone he met with the head of MI6. People don't usually tell the media when they've had meetings with the head of the Secret Intelligence Service.

dewingedpixie

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : And you think that Romney is going to help with international relations? Really ? I think that he'll ruin more relationships than he'll ameliorate.
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

I think they're both horrible really. I am just in a state where I'd prefer to have my rotten meat less festering at this point.

peekaboo2011

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[QUOTE]]Peek - what is GS training?
Posted by fizzylemonade[/QUOTE]

<div>Girl Scout Training.  I'm going to be a co-leader for older girls.</div>

IrishDreamer

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : Girl Scout Training.  I'm going to be a co-leader for older girls.
Posted by peekaboo2011[/QUOTE]

You didn't tell me you got that position! I remember you talking about it a while ago. YAY! :)

Swazzle

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[QUOTE]Ok, I swear I mean this with genuine respectful curiosity and not in a "ew what are you thinking?" way, but can those of you who are voting for Romney please explain why? And if your reasons are just fiscal, as I would hope, does Romney's stance on women's and gay rights just not bother you? Or do you see it as less important? I'm just trying to see both sides.
Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

<div>Unfortunately, instead of having a discussion about it here, some people would prefer to btch about the discussion elsewhere (for example, FB). </div>

thejucheidea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re:Let's discuss some things... : Unfortunately, instead of having a discussion about it here, some people would prefer to btch about the discussion elsewhere (for example, FB). 
Posted by rdr716[/QUOTE]

lol noticed that

Peaseblossom55

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : Girl Scout Training.  I'm going to be a co-leader for older girls.
Posted by peekaboo2011[/QUOTE]
Wow that is really cool!

GoldenPenguin

I definitely agree with others about a third party.  I think this country would actually be better if a third party candidate had a fighting chance. It's so polarized - Republican vs. Democrat. I lean Democrat mostly because 1. I'm not rich and 2. I'm very liberal on the social issues. However, I think both parties have their plusses and minuses.

There has to be some middle ground somewhere... but because it's so ingrained that is MUST be Republican or Democrat, there will never be another choice. I know in my home state, the best governor we had during my lifetime was Independent. Now he's running, and should easily get elected, to Olympia Snowe's vacated Senate seat.

Stina51286

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re:Let's discuss some things... : Unfortunately, instead of having a discussion about it here, some people would prefer to btch about the discussion elsewhere (for example, FB). 
Posted by rdr716[/QUOTE]

Actually if you are talking about me, this thread has nothing to do with my fb status. Its something else someone I know posted that is not even on TK.

thejucheidea

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[QUOTE]I definitely agree with others about a third party.  I think this country would actually be better if a third party candidate had a fighting chance.
Posted by BriSox81[/QUOTE]

Agree. My political leanings are libertarian with leftist shading. I'm very socially liberal but more fiscally conservative.

dewingedpixie

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[QUOTE]. However, I think both parties have their plusses and minuses. There has to be some middle ground somewhere... but because it's so ingrained that is MUST be Republican or Democrat, there will never be another choice.
Posted by BriSox81[/QUOTE]

This is where I stand.

jorja86

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : And you think that Romney is going to help with international relations? Really ? I think that he'll ruin more relationships than he'll ameliorate.
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

<div>This. x1000. Again, that "secret" video demonstrates just how bad he has the potential to be in this area.</div>

fizzylemonade

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : Girl Scout Training.  I'm going to be a co-leader for older girls.
Posted by peekaboo2011[/QUOTE]

That is great! I looked into it before the summer but never got into gear about applying. Did you do it growing up?

edit- show I was replying to Peek

Letstrythis1001

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : Agree. My political leanings are libertarian with leftist shading. I'm very socially liberal but more fiscally conservative.
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

That's how I have been describing myself, which is a change from the last election.

Re: gas prices. I've been seeing the picture about that floating around for a while now. I did some researching and did find that when Obama took office the average gas price was around $1.80...but I SWEAR I don't remember it being that low post Katrina. I remember gas prices went down significantly during the 2008 elections, but under $2?

leia1979

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : Agree. My political leanings are libertarian with leftist shading. I'm very socially liberal but more fiscally conservative.
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

Me, too. I would support a socially liberal and fiscally conservative candidate. It's so hard to find good candidates. I realized I'm even disgusted with the mayor and city council of my 67,000 person city.

Totally unrelated, but there's someone named Stillwell here running for congress. Every time I see the signs, I think of you.

GoldenPenguin

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : That's how I have been describing myself, which is a change from the last election. Re: gas prices. I've been seeing the picture about that floating around for a while now. I did some researching and did find that when Obama took office the average gas price was around $1.80...but I SWEAR I don't remember it being that low post Katrina. I remember gas prices went down significantly during the 2008 elections, but under $2?
Posted by Letstrythis1001[/QUOTE]

Actually:
<a href="http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/01/us-gas-pricesja.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/01/us-gas-pricesja.html</a>
<a href="http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/01/gas-prices-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/01/gas-prices-2.html</a>

Letstrythis1001

See the second link says average was under $2. I have no doubts its true, I just don't think I was able to dance around for gas prices that low. Either that, or my brain is just fried.

peekaboo2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's discuss some things... : Actually: <a href="http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/01/us-gas-pricesja.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/01/us-gas-pricesja.html</a> <a href="http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/01/gas-prices-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/01/gas-prices-2.html</a>
Posted by BriSox81[/QUOTE]

<div>Yeah, we pulled that up the other day.  I really don't remember them ever dropping that far though.  In my experience, every time they've gone up to the next dollar level, they've stayed there.</div>

leia1979

The last time I saw gas prices under $2/gal (and remember I live in an expensive place) was around 2004 or 2005. But of all things, gas prices seem so minor, especially when you consider it costs twice as much in other countries compared to what we pay now.

Edited because my math was a little wrong.

fizzylemonade

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[QUOTE]The last time I saw gas prices under $2/gal (and remember I live in an expensive place) was around 2004 or 2005. But of all things, gas prices seem so minor, especially when you consider it costs as much per litre in other countries as we pay per gallon now. 3.8L=1Gal
Posted by leia1979[/QUOTE]

Yea...Where I was in England five years ago was about 1.2GBP per liter, which at the time was $9. It's gone up more, but the exchange rate has gone the other way, so it's not much higher in $.

K Everdeen12

Have you guys taken that quiz where it analyzes your political beliefs and tells you who you side with the most?  I like to do them to make sure I'm voting for someone who I *actually* support, not just who I think I should be voting for.  My #1 match was surprisingly Barack (I thought it would be someone a little more liberal), closely followed by Jill Stein from the Green Party.  

Stina51286

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[QUOTE]Ok, I swear I mean this with genuine respectful curiosity and not in a "ew what are you thinking?" way, but can those of you who are voting for Romney please explain why? And if your reasons are just fiscal, as I would hope, does Romney's stance on women's and gay rights just not bother you? Or do you see it as less important? I'm just trying to see both sides.
Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

I am an independant and based on the research and etc is why I am voting the way I am. I voted for Obama back in 2008, voted Republican back in 2004. I do not believe Obama did us any good. I understand that he was dealt crap in the beginning, but what has he done to fix it? His budget proposals, the democrats didn't even like his budget proposals, why do you think the US went without a budget for so long?

There is more to it than that, but I wont be getting into those.