Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses

heyimbren

Coco, FWIW I think that dress is really nice on you! You're going to look wonderful once you have it altered and everything

AudgiePodge

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : No, it was your need to bring my budget into the discussion that made me think it was a consideration for you in viewing my comments.  And your sarcastic attitude, which you continue here (with your "however much you feel happiness costs" remark) is what struck me as envious.  While my budget has nothing to do with the discussion of DB dresses.  The quality of fabric applies to how it feels - the lace felt scratchy to me and would have irritated my arms, so it wouldn't work for me.  If someone feels good in the dress, that's all that matters.  The stitching just needs to be checked - before you accept a gown, just look at all the seams.  This is true anywhere, but DB tends to have lousy stitching so it's worth checking and making them fix it if anything's not done right.  Yet somehow that makes me a snob rather than a smart shopper who wants to get the best quality for what the budget affords.
Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]<div>It makes you a snob because you decided to post it in a thread where the OP was looking at dresses from DB. I am positive you wouldn't have garnered the same replies if the original context of the thread was different.

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calindi

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[QUOTE]What struck me as offensive is that you then accused cschiano of "budget envy" which was not the same as giving advice to check the seams and such.
Posted by sunbird627[/QUOTE]

That was because she brought up my budget and then was snarky about it.  My budget had nothing to do with it.

SeaTea02

Cate, you absolutely brought up your budget. Cschiano didn't say anything about it. And who told you people were jealous of you when they didn't agree with something you said or just didn't like you, your mommy?

This was absolutely the wrong context to explain your disdain for the quality of DB. You were wrong, offensive, and made an ass out of yourself and instead of apologizing you are continuing to attack and transferring blame to Cschiano for bringing up your budget, which she didn't.

And how dare you even assume her budget is less than yours? Do you know this for a fact? You sound like such a spoiled brat in this post it is ridiculous. I urge you to apologize.  

niknik15

Coco your a cutie! I tried on that dress too and it looked hideous on me. But I think you look amazing in it.

marleylikeair

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[QUOTE]Cate, you absolutely brought up your budget. Chelsea didn't say anything about it. And who told you people were jealous of you when they didn't agree with something you said or just didn't like you, your mommy? This was absolutely the wrong context to explain your disdain for the quality of DB. You were wrong, offensive, and made an ass out of yourself and instead of apologizing you are continuing to attack and transferring blame to Chelsea for bringing up your budget, which she didn't. And how dare you even assume her budget is less than yours? Do you know this for a fact? You sound like such a spoiled brat in this post it is ridiculous. I urge you to apologize.  
Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>I'm not saying I totally agree with everything Cate said or the way she said it (or the thread it was said on), but here's cschiano's first response:
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</div><div>In Response to <a style="text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal;color:#1f1f1f;" href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_officially-thursday-cant-sleep-long-post?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:359cf7de-5153-495a-9264-f0a70cae4aeePost:bc85b388-48a7-4e15-89ef-e3a4856b38f5">Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : Maybe it is because I haven't had my coffee yet and I'm cranky, but what you said here about DB seems offensive to me.  <strong>Just because you have a whole lot of money for you wedding doesn't mean that everyone else does.</strong> And TBH, I found the quality of service at my DB to be excellent, and I love my dress - it doesn't seem cheap to me at all. <strong>But maybe I have low expectations and cheap tastes.</strong>  Lyn, I will check out your dresses later (though I did notice you picked my dress. . . which would be great for the beach!!) Hope you got some sleep, honey.
Posted by cschiano[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>So yes, I see cschiano bringing in Cate's budget and being kind of snarky about it, instead of just saying that she felt the comments were inappropriate on Lyn's thread about looking at DB dresses.
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</div><div>Since Cate and I are friends and I feel like we "get" each other pretty well, I know Cate was just trying to help and say that DB doesn't necessarily offer the best value for your money. Reading Cate's posts on this thread, I can see how her comments came off the wrong way, though. FWIW, she *did* come back and explain what she meant.</div>

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thanks, bren and Nik.  I'm so worried about my tummy that I haven't tried it on in months.  with 30 days to go, maybe I should.  EEP!!!

I really don't want to get involved in this fight, but...

I do think that the budget was brought up prior to Cate's comment about budget envy. 
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : Maybe it is because I haven't had my coffee yet and I'm cranky, but what you said here about DB seems offensive to me.  <strong>Just because you have a whole lot of money for you wedding doesn't mean that everyone else does.</strong> And TBH, I found the quality of service at my DB to be excellent, and I love my dress - it doesn't seem cheap to me at all. But maybe I have low expectations and <strong>cheap tastes</strong>.  Lyn, I will check out your dresses later (though I did notice you picked my dress. . . which would be great for the beach!!) Hope you got some sleep, honey.
Posted by cschiano[/QUOTE]

I also think that the arguments are out of control and should not be on Lyn's thread.

FWIW, I purchased my dress from DB and I wasn't offended at all by her comments about DB.  I tend to agree with them... however, the dress was good enough for me.  I had a smaller dress budget and it was the best option for me.  I know I could have found much better quality somewhere else, but for a one-day dress it was fine.  it'll look good in pictures and I didn't spend a fortune. 

sometimes I'm a little embarrassed to say it's from DB because people have such bad ideas about the company.  and IMO, with good reason.  it was crowded, hot, noisy, and I had long waits because there were so many brides/family/etc and not enough help.  I felt rushed by my consultant the whole time, but I ended up with a dress that I love and so I'm happy for that.  we did check the seams and such when the dress arrived and there were some problems with puckering in the bodice of my dress because of poor stitching.  alterations took care of it for free when I complained.  also, the lace tends to unravel if I'm not careful with it.

but "the dress" just wasn't THAT important to me.  it wasn't that big of a priority, and for some people it is.  I didn't want to hunt for a petite somewhere, when they are so hard to find in my size.  I didn't want to spend a lot.  honestly, I didn't want to go dress shopping more than one time if I could help it. 

good luck Lyn!!  let us know what happens.  :)

EDIT:  marley, so weird.  we posted the same quoted comment at the same time.

motoLyn

Look I have had only 40 minutes of sleep all of last night, on my second cup of espresso and a whole lot to think about.  Seriously the caffeine has to go somewhere.  I really appreciated those who responded to my OP.  Your opinions and suggestion WERE and ARE appreciated.  Cate I have to be honest had your original post simply said "I have gone to DB and found that it wasn't what I expected or it didn't meet MY standards BUT if it works for you GREAT!"  I understand that you were trying to warn me of possible seams that come undone or that the material isn't what you deem to be standard all because you sew recreational.  I have to say that initially it did make me feel like you were looking down on me for shopping there.  Then I thought well its her opinion I can take it or leave it, so I decided that I would just ignore that post.  Because no one is going to make me feel bad for wanting to shop where I want to shop.  Its the first time that I am trying on dresses and that's where I chose to go.  No one has the power to make you feel bad about yourself unless you give it to them.

I'm going to have to say from the posts on this board that everyone has had different experiences with DB.  So I attribute that to be your experience. Its only me in this, I'm paying for everything and I can be lucky and win big at a sample sale but between closing escrow on a house and funding money into fixing it up the less I spend on my dress and more towards the remodel of the kitchen the better I feel that it was worth.  So.... you can understand why some of us took offense to your original post.  Wording is key.  I really can't afford to go to the small shops here.  I could try driving into Los Angeles and dress hunt there but then my weekends are tied to soon to be fixing a house and raising a Weimaraner puppy. 

I went to look at DB dresses before booking my appt I think that some of the dresses look unfinished but that was because that was the style, I am actually a fan of textured fabrics.  Scratchy no, but a little rough is welcome.  I really am tired so I can't concentrate wholly on this post as my mind wanders to oblivion.  I be articulate if you caught me on a better day. 

In the end, come on in I welcome what you have to say about styles and what you think would work.  I saw that you posted a very pretty flowing dress that is similar to something that i was considering, GREAT, keep on that path, just don't come in and crap on this thread saying DB is sub par to the bridal shops that you have been to.  Granted its your opinion and welcome to it, just not welcome here.  Ending on a positive note, your dress is gorgeous and I'm glad that you got what you pictured.  Let me have that moment. 

CASK85

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : I'm not saying I totally agree with everything Cate said or the way she said it (or the thread it was said on), but here's cschiano's first response: In Response to  Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : So yes, I see cschiano bringing in Cate's budget and being kind of snarky about it, instead of just saying that she felt the comments were inappropriate on Lyn's thread about looking at DB dresses. Since Cate and I are friends and I feel like we "get" each other pretty well, I know Cate was just trying to help and say that DB doesn't necessarily offer the best value for your money. Reading Cate's posts on this thread, I can see how her comments came off the wrong way, though. FWIW, she *did* come back and explain what she meant.
Posted by marleylikeair[/QUOTE]
I did bring it up (mostly because she does often) and I was snarky about it. But somehow that equals me being envious in her mind, which is the opposite of how I feel about Cate in general, or her wedding, or budget. I'd just like to see an admission from her that being negative about a store that someone is excited to go to in a thread started by her in excitement was not necessary and was rude.

AudgiePodge

motoLyn

Side note and back on track, CoCo that dress you have is simply elegant, I can't wait to see what you look like once they have it altered to your height.  I do love elegance and lace.  So its kind of like a split personality, a part of me wants to break out of the mold of being this quirky individual that could be seen in an asymmetric hemline dress and into some long, hugging and lacy, but another part of me wants to dance and skip all over the place at the wedding in this twirly whirly dress that makes me feel bubbly and jubilant.  Dr. Jekyll meet Ms. Hyde.  Thank you for sharing your dress with us.  I do look forward to seeing the final results you glowing bride you.

marleylikeair

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : I agree with you, Sea.  We all have heard a lot about Cate's budget, and <strong>I think it's a stretch to assume that cschiano is jealous of her budget.</strong>  I for one know her Bridal Consultant Team, and she has a terrific one ;)
Posted by sunbird627[/QUOTE]

<div>This may be true, too. I wouldn't necessarily have drawn this conclusion; however, I do think it's odd that she would bring it into the conversation so suddenly, when Cate said nothing about budget, just quality.</div>

marleylikeair

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : I did bring it up (mostly because she does often) and I was snarky about it. But somehow that equals me being envious in her mind, which is the opposite of how I feel about Cate in general, or her wedding, or budget. I'd just like to see an admission from her that <strong>being negative about a store that someone is excited to go to in a thread started by her in excitement was not necessary and was rude.</strong>
Posted by cschiano[/QUOTE]

<div>I completely understand, I'm just wondering why you didn't just say this bolded part and leave Cate's budget out of things; if you had, I think there's a strong chance that Cate might have just apologized right off the bat for saying something that sounded offensive. Ya know?</div>

LizzyTish88

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[QUOTE]thanks, bren and Nik.  I'm so worried about my tummy that I haven't tried it on in months.  with 30 days to go, maybe I should.  EEP!!! <strong><font color="#ff0000">I really don't want to get involved in this fight</font>, but... I do think that the budget was brought up prior to Cate's comment about budget envy.  I also think that the arguments are out of control and should not be on Lyn's thread. FWIW, I purchased my dress from DB and I wasn't offended at all by her comments about DB.  I tend to agree with them... however, the dress was good enough for me.</strong>  I had a smaller dress budget and it was the best option for me.  I know I could have found much better quality somewhere else, but for a one-day dress it was fine.  it'll look good in pictures and I didn't spend a fortune.  sometimes <strong>I'm a little embarrassed to say it's from DB</strong>because people have such bad ideas about the company.  and IMO, with good reason.  it was crowded, hot, noisy, and I had long waits because there were so many brides/family/etc and not enough help.  I felt rushed by my consultant the whole time, but I ended up with a dress that I love and so I'm happy for that.  we did check the seams and such when the dress arrived and there were some problems with puckering in the bodice of my dress because of poor stitching.  alterations took care of it for free when I complained.  also, the lace tends to unravel if I'm not careful with it. but "the dress" just wasn't THAT important to me.  it wasn't that big of a priority, and for some people it is.  I didn't want to hunt for a petite somewhere, when they are so hard to find in my size.  I didn't want to spend a lot.  honestly, I didn't want to go dress shopping more than one time if I could help it.  good luck Lyn!!  let us know what happens.  :) EDIT:  marley, so weird.  we posted the same quoted comment at the same time.
Posted by CocoBellaF[/QUOTE]

I usually stay out of these too but this is aggregating.

I think cschiano had a point. Cate didn't come right out and say that she had a "generous" budget, but it does come up EVERY time she talks about her planning. I also read Cate's first comment as snobby because it read to me "DB is okay if you want to go real cheep, but you can totally find better." The comment about DB being for bigger girls rubbed me the wrong way too but that's cause I am a big girl. (Which is neither here nor there.)

I think the main thing is that Cate comes off real snobby over the internet. I have never met her, therefore I cannot say how she is in real life, but she comes across that way here, IMO. Every time she responds it's about how she did something/will do something/what she thinks is right. Re-reading the response, I still don't see how it had anything to do with what Lyn asked in the first place.


I will also say sorry Lyn that this is going down on your thread.

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[QUOTE]Side note and back on track, CoCo that dress you have is simply elegant, I can't wait to see what you look like once they have it altered to your height.  I do love elegance and lace.  So its kind of like a split personality, a part of me wants to break out of the mold of being this quirky individual that could be seen in an asymmetric hemline dress and into some long, hugging and lacy, but another part of me wants to dance and skip all over the place at the wedding in this twirly whirly dress that makes me feel bubbly and jubilant.  <strong>Dr. Jekyll meet Ms. Hyde.</strong>  Thank you for sharing your dress with us.  I do look forward to seeing the final results you glowing bride you.
Posted by motoLyn[/QUOTE]

I struggled with the same thing too!  I had two totally different styles picked out going in there, and I wasn't sure which I would go with.  I really wasn't planning to get anything hugging or lacy, but when I tried it on I actually felt beautiful, and I knew that was the dress I wanted.  I hope you take pictures so I can creep them.  I just love that you're going to Maui!  it can't get any better than that.  :) 

also, my dress, slip, veil, shoes, and shapewear all came right at $1000 with tax.  alterations were $300.  they get you at the alterations.  just FYI in case you find a dress there you want to buy.  I don't know what your budget is, but it sounds like it was "as low as possible", just like mine.

ravenray

Coco you look beautiful!   I love the dress!!! We must see pictures!

marleylikeair

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[QUOTE]thanks, bren and Nik.  <strong>I'm so worried about my tummy that I haven't tried it on in months.</strong>  with 30 days to go, maybe I should.  EEP!!! I really don't want to get involved in this fight, but... I do think that the budget was brought up prior to Cate's comment about budget envy.  I also think that the arguments are out of control and should not be on Lyn's thread. FWIW, I purchased my dress from DB and I wasn't offended at all by her comments about DB.  I tend to agree with them... however, the dress was good enough for me.  I had a smaller dress budget and it was the best option for me.  I know I could have found much better quality somewhere else, but for a one-day dress it was fine.  it'll look good in pictures and I didn't spend a fortune.  sometimes I'm a little embarrassed to say it's from DB because people have such bad ideas about the company.  and IMO, with good reason.  it was crowded, hot, noisy, and I had long waits because there were so many brides/family/etc and not enough help.  I felt rushed by my consultant the whole time, but I ended up with a dress that I love and so I'm happy for that.  we did check the seams and such when the dress arrived and there were some problems with puckering in the bodice of my dress because of poor stitching.  alterations took care of it for free when I complained.  also, the lace tends to unravel if I'm not careful with it. but "the dress" just wasn't THAT important to me.  it wasn't that big of a priority, and for some people it is.  I didn't want to hunt for a petite somewhere, when they are so hard to find in my size.  I didn't want to spend a lot.  honestly, I didn't want to go dress shopping more than one time if I could help it.  good luck Lyn!!  let us know what happens.  :) EDIT:  marley, so weird.  we posted the same quoted comment at the same time.
Posted by CocoBellaF[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>I was going to say the dress lays/drapes on you so nicely, top to bottom!</div><div>
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thanks Ray.  when I feel brave, I'll AW pictures of the finished product.

I am seriously crushing on Liv's JCrew dress right now.  and this one: click!  this was the other style I was looking at and really thought I'd go with.  I'm secretly hoping Lyn tries on something like this and AWs pictures soon. 

niknik15

After you go in the store and find styles that you really like you can search for it on the internet. That's what I did with mine and I got it for $400 cheaper than I would have gotten it in the store. It was a preowned dress site, but the dress had never been worn or altered.

I was in the same predicament between the flowy and the lacy tight fitting. Maybe you should try on the same dress I have. I thought it was a great compromise between the two. 

marleylikeair

Lyn, FWIW, I feel badly that this happened on your thread and hope I'm not contributing too much to the madness by responding.

I can't wait to see what you end up with! I still think you should see if you can hunt down a bargain on that Watters dress; it's beautiful!

motoLyn

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[QUOTE]thanks Ray.  when I feel brave, I'll AW pictures of the finished product. I am seriously crushing on Liv's JCrew dress right now.  and this one: click !  this was the other style I was looking at and really thought I'd go with.  I'm secretly hoping Lyn tries on something like this and AWs pictures soon.  ;)
Posted by CocoBellaF[/QUOTE]
 

CoCo that dress is one of my favs that I have on the DB website I just had some hesitations because of all the net skirt at the bottom half, but perhaps I should see what it is like at the store.  Everyone came and went left their opinions and moved on.  I'm fine with it as long as it gets back to the subject of dresses, what yours are like, what mine SHOULD be and pictures.  Thank you for stopping by.

CASK85

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses :   CoCo that dress is one of my favs that I have on the DB website I just had some hesitations because of all the net skirt at the bottom half, but perhaps I should see what it is like at the store.  Everyone came and went left their opinions and moved on.  I'm fine with it as long as it gets back to the subject of dresses, what yours are like, what mine SHOULD be and pictures.  Thank you for stopping by.
Posted by motoLyn[/QUOTE]
Coco's dress was a front runner for me, but I think my arms are too big because it rubbed a bit in the underarm area. You look great in in Coco :) <div>
</div><div>Lyn, this one has some good texture</div><div><a href="http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Beaded-Tiered-Tulle-Gown-with-Sweetheart-Neckline-SWG9902_Bridal-Gowns-Shop-By-Style-Glamorous-Dramatic" rel='nofollow'>http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Beaded-Tiered-Tulle-Gown-with-Sweetheart-Neckline-SWG9902_Bridal-Gowns-Shop-By-Style-Glamorous-Dramatic</a></div>

SeaTea02

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : I'm not saying I totally agree with everything Cate said or the way she said it (or the thread it was said on), but here's cschiano's first response: In Response to  Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses : So yes, I see cschiano bringing in Cate's budget and being kind of snarky about it, instead of just saying that she felt the comments were inappropriate on Lyn's thread about looking at DB dresses. Since Cate and I are friends and I feel like we "get" each other pretty well, I know Cate was just trying to help and say that DB doesn't necessarily offer the best value for your money. Reading Cate's posts on this thread, I can see how her comments came off the wrong way, though. FWIW, she *did* come back and explain what she meant.
Posted by marleylikeair[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>I was wrong, I will completely admit I was, and I apologize. I was reading on my phone so I was scanning for words in <span style="color:#333333;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;line-height:normal;" class="Apple-style-span">cschiano's </span>posts like "budget" etc. See, that is what you do when you are wrong. </div><div>
</div><div>I still hold by everything else I said. When Cate came to explain herself, she ended her explanation by saying <span style="color:#333333;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;line-height:normal;" class="Apple-style-span">cschiano</span> was just jealous. That was no where near an apology or effectively explaining what she meant. </div><div>
Also, Cate, saying Audgie isn't classy after you called someone jealous of your money, DB is "cheap", and you talk about your budget on here pretty frequently? Really? My parents taught me not to assume the ability of others to afford the same things I could or define "cheap" and "expensive" for others. And if their is one thing I have learned <span style="color:#333333;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;line-height:normal;" class="Apple-style-span">people who have real money don't rub people's noses in it and the ones who think they NEED to have money for superiority reasons do. </span></div><div>
</div><div>Further, Lyn really doesn't mind we are having this conversation because what Cate said offended her too. 

And Coco, you sound SO down on yourself about having a dress from DB and it breaks my heart because it is beautiful. The reason you feel bad is because people like Cate give it the connotation of "cheap". Please do not feel that way. Your dress is just as beautiful as a $2000 dress, and guess what? You got the better deal. </div><div>
</div><div>Edited for clarity. 

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thanks SeaTea.  I'm actually not down on my dress because it's very beautiful, even if we did have some problems with puckering, etc.  I'm more down on my figure.  I can't get rid of my belly.  but like I said, I knew I wasn't going in for a really expensive dress.  and FWIW, most everyone is shocked when I tell them where I bought it!  I'm very pleased with what I got for what I wanted to pay.

for fun, here were a few of my other fav choices:

one is still up on etsy:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/57591475/jana?ref=cat3_gallery_8

CASK85

some pics for fun: 

my mom wanted me to try on a poofy dress. So not me

in a high-low style with pockets

in Coco's dress

in my dress

motoLyn

Thanks CSchiano, that's what I like to experience, a little funny in with the dress shopping.  You are right "your" dress is "the" dress that screams you and how pretty you are.  I think trying on the dress will pale in comparison but I will try it on and make you laugh, that's the least I can do.

CASK85

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_officially-thursday-cant-sleep-long-post?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:359cf7de-5153-495a-9264-f0a70cae4aeePost:fc0d2019-ea4e-47d9-b4b1-89349aab9a04">Re: Officially Thursday! Can't sleep LONG post about dresses</a>:
[QUOTE]Thanks CSchiano, that's what I like to experience, a little funny in with the dress shopping.  You are right "your" dress is "the" dress that screams you and how pretty you are.  I think trying on the dress will pale in comparison but I will try it on and make you laugh, that's the least I can do.
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You'd look gorgeous in a paper sack. I lurve you!

becunning2

Wow.  I missed quite the showdown this afternoon. 

...

And I'm going to focus on the dresses.

Lyn--you have some lovely choices, and I hope you feel glamorous and lovely and enjoy your dress fiting tomorrow.

Coco--I cannot tell you how much I covet your dress.  When I have occassionally browsed dresses (*cough* sometimes it was helping a friend look for hers, swear!), that was one I LOVED. And you look FABULOUS in it.  Strut your stuff; you're sexy.

But my financial perspective comes into play here! I love that dress, love it, but even in imaginary dream scenarios--it's way too expensive for me.   So whenever I get engaged (January according to shoes), I'm going to try it on for the hell of it (if it's still available), and then merrily find myself something that makes me feel pretty and that fits what would likely be a teeeeeeeeeeeeeensy budget.

Enjoy your dresses!  And feel beautiful in them!

desertsun

I think it was perhaps a little thoughtless to say DB dresses are crappily made, knowing that quite a few of us on the board have dresses from there. But I can also see how someone might think they were being honest and helpful by sharing that opinion before someone spends the money on a dress from there. Cate really ought to be able to admit that her wording was insensitive, but her MO is to check out once drama escalates and never acknowledge any fault of her own. But you know, she never holds a grudge, she lets stuff go and still tries to help everyone the same. Overall I think she's a good egg. We all have character traits that others find annoying sometimes.

Regarding dresses and DB, FWIW, I personally had a fantastic DB experience. I had plenty of one on one attention every time I was there. I had my alterations done there, and they did an excellent job. My mom sews, and she carefully examined my dress and alterations and gave them her stamp of approval.

No one has ever said my dress looked crappily made or cheap. In fact, I've gotten many compliments on my dress.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Now I'm off to check out all the links and pick favorites for you, Lyn.

desertsun

DB lets you take pictures, so I highly recommend taking some of each dress from various angles and carefully comparing before you make a decision.

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Beaded-lace-trumpet-with-godet-inserts-VW9340
I tried this dress on, and, IMO, it was a little too shiny in person. My SIL told me it looked like I was wearing a 70s tablecloth. I really do think in this case you could find something similar that had a nicer fabric if you do decide to try it on and like the shape on you.

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Shantung-Taffeta-Ball-Gown-with-Ruched-Bodice-T3185
I think this one is really pretty, and bonus, pockets! It's one of those universally flattering shapes. I would just consider if you want something with that much volume for a beachy wedding.

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Allover-beaded-lace-gown-with-empire-waist.-S8551
This one I also tried on, and found it to be a bit shapeless on me. I am shortwaisted and carry my weight in my boobs and tummy, but overall have an hourglass shape.  I think this dress is more flattering if you have a pretty flat tummy.

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Satin-and-Organza-Tiered-Gown-SAS1216
I love the style of this one, but I think it might make you look short, b/c the layers may visually "cut" you. Same for this one:
http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Transforming-Layered-Tulle-Fit-and-Flare-Gown-KP3135

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Charmeuse-Side-Drape-Gown-with-Sash-WG3026
Ah, csciano's dress! So pretty! Def. try this one on!

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_All-Over-Lace-A-Line-Gown-with-Obi-Sash-CWG365
I personally am not a huge fan of a halter neckline, but I do find the lace very romantic.

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Side-Draped-Fit-Flare-Gown-with-Applique-Detail-WG3032
This is another one where being shortwaisted might be a problem. I'm not a huge fan of this dress or the one you have linked next.

http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Satin-A-Line-Gown-with-Empire-Bodice-EJ1M0143
I love this one and it seems to suit your personality, Lyn. Same for this one:
http://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_Strapless-Shantung-Taffeta-Sweetheart-Ball-Gown-T3039

Those last two are probably my favorites.