future_mrs

pumpkinpumpkin

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Because if it was sent to the callout site email, well...all that says is that the creator is guilty.  Which is silly, we know that much.  It does nothing to support the guilt of Future Mrs.  Now if it was sent directly to Future Mrs then that would be more curious to me.
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

Yah, but let's say it was you who created it - I'm just using an example NOT accusing you - and you got an email that said, "i know it's you, JK" - and you took down the site, would you not look guilty to the person who sent the email? Now. Let's say the email said, "I know it's you [insertnamethatisn'tyouhere]". Would you have taken down the site? Probably not.

J&K10910

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Well, if it was sent to the callouts email, and the email said something like "We know it's you future_mrs!" it could mean one of two things: 1) The callout creator, who isn't future_mrs, didn't want future_mrs to be blamed, so she just took it down out of guilt. 2) It WAS future_mrs, and she knew she was caught, so then she took it down.
Posted by btrflykate1230[/QUOTE]

Or she wanted the heat off her and figured FutureMrs would really get crucified then.  Or she legitimately felt bad and got rid of it.  Or she got tired of the game and got rid of it. 

marriedfilingjointly

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[QUOTE]See, I don't know if I'd say anything.  I'd probably just go away. It wouldn't be worth it to me to "fight to the death", especially knowing how things stick to people around here.
Posted by mag920[/QUOTE]


In general, around here defending oneself against accusations doesn't usually get taken at face value. 

SarahPLiz

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Well, if it was sent to the callouts email, and the email said something like "We know it's you future_mrs!" it could mean one of two things: <strong>1) The callout creator, who isn't future_mrs, didn't want future_mrs to be blamed, so she just took it down out of guilt.</strong> 2) It WAS future_mrs, and she knew she was caught, so then she took it down.
Posted by btrflykate1230[/QUOTE]

<div>Or they DID want future mrs to be blamed so that the search would be over and no one would find out who it really was. .</div>

pumpkinpumpkin

Also - blueeyed - it was Cyber Bullying, which is a criminal offense.

xyrius

anyway with all that said i still think she deserves the opportunity to defend herself - innocent until proven guilty as they say - i think we should all give her that chance.

J&K10910

Alix and P2, while your posts make complete sense, please see my most recent post before this and after yours to see my further reasoning of it.

btrflykate1230

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Or she wanted the heat off her and figured FutureMrs would really get crucified then.  Or she legitimately felt bad and got rid of it.  Or she got tired of the game and got rid of it. 
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

Ahhh yes. Let FutureMrs take the heat and make her look guilty. If it wasn't FutureMrs, then this makes the creator of the callouts site an even shiitier person.

vallyhoo

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Or they DID want future mrs to be blamed so that the search would be over and no one would find out who it really was. .
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]

but this person just HAPPENED to have an IP address in KS? or if they didn't they just HAPPENED to mask their IP address to the same city as FM is near?

Stackeye210

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Or they DID want future mrs to be blamed so that the search would be over and no one would find out who it really was. .
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]

I agree that this is a possible theory.  They're all just theories. 

Also - maybe she is still planning on addressing the knot to tell everyone it isn't her but wants all her personal links and info off the pages before she does so that people aren't trying to hunt her down in every place she frequents because she knows regardless of what she says people will stalk her bio and FB and what not.....  That was a really long run on sentence, but i hope you get the point.  If she's truly innocent she probably feels totally exposed right now.   

SarahPLiz

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : but this person just HAPPENED to have an IP address in KS? or if they didn't they just HAPPENED to mask their IP address to the same city as FM is near?
Posted by vallyhoo[/QUOTE]

<div>Its a mystery wrapped in an enigma... or whatever. We may never know if that IP was correct. </div>

pumpkinpumpkin

Or she wanted the heat off her and figured FutureMrs would really get crucified then.  Or she legitimately felt bad and got rid of it.  Or she got tired of the game and got rid of it.

I get what you're saying. For me, it's the timing of the email/site deletion, plus the IP tracking - which we know isn't all that accurate, but it's not like it would track it to KS and the person is in NY. It's just all too coincidental, and now with future-mrs deleting everything....

Blueyed228

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[QUOTE]Also - blueeyed - it was Cyber Bullying, which is a criminal offense.
Posted by pumpkinpumpkin[/QUOTE]

If being mean to people online is a crime, then every single one of us on these boards is guilty.

J&K10910

There are a lot of people that live in KS, and a lot of people that have IP addresses that don't actually come out of the area they live in.  I know when I send emails from my phone, my IP address comes from random places like India and Croatia and California.

vallyhoo

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Its a mystery wrapped in an enigma... or whatever. We may never know if that IP was correct. 
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure that Dani wouldn't make an accusation wouldn't having checked her facts. The call out person posted the email to send the callouts to a bunch of times, if it was kpscallouts@hotmail.com all it takes is someone to trace it. Not rocket surgery.

opalsky007

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[QUOTE]It makes me sad that this stupid call out site has garnered a 7 page post on this board.  Again. <strong>And lawyers etc being involved?  For what?  Someone made a site that was mean, people got their feelings hurt, it was taken down.  How is that illegal? </strong> If KA and Co. have an issue with TK being mentioned on other sites without permission, then I would expect them to have an issue with the TKPS site as well.  Personally I just think that there are alot of people who want explanations and apologies that are never going to happen.  It happened, it sucked, it was wrong, and its over.  I dont get why we still care?  Of course apologies are due, and people who got called out have every right to be upset and want some answers, but is it ever going to happen?  Probably not.  There are alot of things that happened on this site that hurt people feelings, and warrant apologies that will never happen.  Its just the nature of the internet. I also agree with PP that we will never know for sure who did it, and putting the blame solely on FutureMrs isnt fair.  If it were me being blamed like this I wouldnt respond either.  What would be the point?  The damage is done.  People are going to take this and run with it for months.  If she is innocent, she doesnt have a chance on being welcomed back anyways.......
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

It's called cyberbullying.

ETA: sorry, my computer is slow as crap today.

Stackeye210

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : I'm pretty sure that Dani wouldn't make an accusation wouldn't having checked her facts. The call out person posted the email to send the callouts to a bunch of times, if it was kpscallouts@hotmail.com all it takes is someone to trace it. Not rocket surgery.
Posted by vallyhoo[/QUOTE]

Isn't Dani's degree in criminal investigating or something like that?  She'd know how to track as close as she could to something like this. 

vallyhoo

Okay so it just so happens that the hotmail email address that was used for the callouts was traced to Hays, KS. And there is a person who has publicly stated a dislike for some people who received vicious emails with their pictures in them, and then that person also happens to live in Hays, KS. That's a lot of coincidences right there.

J&K10910

Three cheers for confirmation bias.

SarahPLiz

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : I'm pretty sure that Dani wouldn't make an accusation wouldn't having checked her facts. The call out person posted the email to send the callouts to a bunch of times, if it was kpscallouts@hotmail.com all it takes is someone to trace it. Not rocket surgery.
Posted by vallyhoo[/QUOTE]

<div>I know, I am just really trying to keep an open mind. </div>

marriedfilingjointly

I've seen someone in NC have an IP in Iowa because that's where their company headquarters was.  And someone in FL whose IP was showing Virginia.  There were several others.  Actually, doing the math now, about one in four had IPs pretty far away from where they are.

My dad builds computers and my old IP showed me as Washington state. 

vallyhoo

anyone can trace an email address. If Dani and Arbolita are the two people claiming to have done it, so be it. But really anyone can do it.

arbolita

If I was wrongly accused of something this bad, even if my choice was to leave the boards, I wouldn't just go and delete the people I had on FB with no explanation; especially after they were more on her side than anything else. 

pumpkinpumpkin

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : If being mean to people online is a crime, then every single one of us on these boards is guilty.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

Yes, because what goes on here daily is on the same level as what went on on the callout site. Really now.

marriedfilingjointly

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: future_mrs : Isn't Dani's degree in criminal investigating or something like that?  She'd know how to track as close as she could to something like this. 
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]

I don't know if this was meant as a joke, but it definitely made me CQTM.

maratea

Or maybe whoever was doing this used a proxy and chose an IP address that happened to be in KS. If using a proxy, you can choose your own IP address.

Blueyed228

Realistically, if FutureMrs came into this thread and said "I didnt do it".  How many of you would believe her?

How would she even begin to prove that she DIDNT do it?

vallyhoo

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[QUOTE]Or maybe whoever was doing this used a proxy and chose an IP address that happened to be in KS. If using a proxy, you can choose your own IP address.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

but really why would someone choose somewhere so rural in KS? Why not a huge city like NYC? If so then the person who created the call out site is as vicious as all the people who sent in the secrets because they are letting someone else take the fall for it. But the person claimed to not submit anything and was therefore better than the people sending in the callouts.

marriedfilingjointly

Cyberbulling involves minors.  Pretty sure Mrs. is over 18.

http://www.stopcyberbullying.org/what_is_cyberbullying_exactly.html

pumpkinpumpkin

Lets not forget about her honoured "knot career". That narrows it down quite a bit too.