Flame Free Friday

juliebug1997

If you post your business on here.........well.

NMac2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_flame-friday-22?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:d9b37118-145e-4dbe-977f-7be772e34b95Post:9315d073-d9d1-4dd3-9bdc-8477251e8a26">Re: Flame Free Friday</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Free Friday : I don't think "not having enough time now" is a good reason for getting rid of a dog. You make time to take care of him, period. A dog is a long term commitment, you should think about what you'll be doing the next 10-15 years BEFORE getting an animal.
Posted by TexanTreasure08[/QUOTE]

I agree and disagree with this. Life changes. Getting a dog is not the same as having a child, and for a lot of people, it's not the same commitment. That's not really yours, or anyone else's place to judge. You can have your opinion, yes, of course.

 I do agree you have to look at your lifestyle when you get a pet, and if you have time to take care of it or not. But I also believe if you have drastic lifestyle changes, then sometimes you don't have a choice but to say "it's either this, or the dog". I wouldn't alter my lifestyle and give up things because we have a pet, I think that is something that you do enough of when you have children. But, then again, that's one of the reasons FI and I don't have a dog right now. Call us selfish, but we don't want to look back and say "man, we missed on on doing a lot of ___ because we had a dog". That seems rather silly to me. But, then again, just my opinion. Just like everyone else has theirs.

seujoanne

Funny - I don't think someone's opinion should necessarily be characterized as rudeness when you don't agree with it.

mseale

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_flame-friday-22?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:d9b37118-145e-4dbe-977f-7be772e34b95Post:8827f0e5-758f-4dc0-8c26-0fa562cc37c6">Re: Flame Free Friday</a>:
[QUOTE]I flame people that care WAY to much about other people's business  
Posted by cfibelkorn[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone is being rude, but you opened your 'business' up to everyone when you posed it on a message board...

NMac2010

I don't understand why people compare children-human beings-to dogs.

Not even the same ballpark.

Terriniski

Man, I missed quite a bit today! 

On the girls losing weight - it doesn't usually get to me, until someone says "I need to lose 10 lbs to fit into my dress because I ordered it small on purpose."  That just strikes me as dumb.  Everything I see on this board reminds me that things go awry.  Ordering your dress a size too small is just asking for something to go wrong that inhibits your ability to workout. 

That said, I've been posting a bit in AWs about my weight loss.  It's about the only AW I have these days because life is boring, and it's been a long term goal - I've lost about 20 pounds (all since my wedding a year ago) and so now I'm closer to reaching a "normal" weight.  But maybe I'm being overly sensitive in defending myself - I've never posted anything about how much I've lost in a week, for example, because I know that 5 lbs in a week is just going to come right back. 

seujoanne

This thread rocks.

I tend to like animals a hell of a lot more than I like their owners.  Just an aside. 

juliebug1997

Don't you have a responsibility either way?  You have to be the care provider for something that is dependent upon YOU.  And thankfully there are lots of laws in place for people who choose to have one/the other/both and then decide that it's too much work. 

seujoanne

Really Julie, why should ANYBODY be responsible for ANYTHING or ANYONE other than themselves?  Geez. 

stephl3055

It would take a lot for me to give up my pets.  A LOT.  My pet means the world to me and I know he is not the same as a child, but he is still a living being that I have brought into my home and promised to love and take care of. 

I get that things come up, but at the same time, I think people need to be more flexible instead of just giving their pet away as the first resort.  If your job is getting in the way, think about doggy day care.  I know it's expensive, but maybe a once a week visit would make your dog happier.  Or come home for lunch.  Or take them on a walk before/after the gym.  Most pets aren't asking you to spend 24/7 with them. 

And I agree with the others, if you post something on a public forum, people have the right to comment on it.  You can't just create a rule that says whatever you write can't be judged. 

bsn1752

Chelsea - I don't think that anyone was being rude to you intentionally... disagreeing with you, yes.  But that's why FFF is all about.  Don't get upset about it.

Dog vs. Children... you're right... not the same thing... not even close.  But they are both a responsibility nonetheless.  I will say this too, children require WAY more work than a dog/pet (obviously).  I think that Julie was trying to make a point that owning a dog is a responsibility and to give it away upsets people... it's obviously going to be a heated discussion no matter what, because, let's face it... to some people a pet is their child.

Whether or not you meant it as such, you did say one of your reasons for not being able to keep him was because of the gym.  Yes, ONE reason, but you have to also be aware of how that sounds to people that don't know you, your fiance, or even your overall tone when posting on these forums.  It's  not something to get upset about or make a big to-do over.... just maybe something to be more aware about.  I know that I personally retype a post several times, read it over and over again to ensure that I'm not misunderstood.

With all of that said, IT'S FINALLY F(&#! FRIDAY!  

BanannaP

I am going to big fat flame my right earbud for not working. I bought them less than two months ago!!

NMac2010

Yes, I agree pets are a responsibility. My point was, and I don't think you should just give them up at the drop of a hat. But I also don't think it can be compared to having children. Not everyone views dogs as their "children", so getting rid of them because it's not as easy to take care of them anymore isn't as difficult of a decision.

And, believe it or not, it hurts you more than it hurts the dog.

Well, it's been lovely ladies. I'm out. Have a wonderful weekend!!!!

It's my last weekend to not be a married woman!!!

tam427

Only going to say ONE thing about this dog thing then done. I think people - in general, not you- just don't THINK before choosing to adopt a pet. It's a big decision, and everyone should make that decision knowing how their life is, not just because it's a cute, adorable furry thing. It's a living creature that needs love and care. Case in point: woman returned a puppy 1 week after getting it because it chewed things and was messy. IT's a PUPPY!  Not to say living situations, lifestyles, etc. don't change, because they do. And I do feel it's more responsible to find a loving home for an animal you can't care for if circumstances call for it, rather than have a neglected animal, like all the ones on my street that are left outside in the yard in the heat all day every day.

OK, now i flame myself for getting involved in this matter!

bsn1752

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_flame-friday-22?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:d9b37118-145e-4dbe-977f-7be772e34b95Post:c1182ef8-d952-4343-84a3-19c7b28d2f49">Re: Flame Free Friday</a>:
[QUOTE]Not everyone views dogs as their "children", so getting rid of them because it's not as easy to take care of them anymore isn't as difficult of a decision. Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]

You're right... <em><strong>but some people do</strong></em>.  That's what I said in my post.

And those are the people that will get upset.  As I said, it's going to be a heated discussion regardless.

llc2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_flame-friday-22?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:d9b37118-145e-4dbe-977f-7be772e34b95Post:19604c14-32fe-49ad-a1df-9ecc23fb4a21">Re: Flame Free Friday</a>:
[QUOTE]I am going to big fat flame my right earbud for not working. I bought them less than two months ago!!
Posted by BanannaP[/QUOTE]

Hate when that happens!  My brother just started using the earbuds that came with his iPhone, went out not even 2 months later. 

TexanTreasure08

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[QUOTE]But I also believe if you have drastic lifestyle changes, then sometimes you don't have a choice but to say "it's either this, or the dog". I wouldn't alter my lifestyle and give up things because we have a pet, I think that is something that you do enough of when you have children. But, then again, that's one of the reasons FI and I don't have a dog right now. Call us selfish, but we don't want to look back and say "man, we missed on on doing a lot of ___ because we had a dog". That seems rather silly to me. But, then again, just my opinion. Just like everyone else has theirs.
Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]

<div>I applaud you for not getting a dog because you acknowledge that it would not be a priority for you. But for the PP, I don't think work & going to the gym are drastic lifestyle changes. She know she was going to have to work when she got it.</div><div>I would consider my situation a drastic lifestyle change- I had an accident that shattered my ankle so I'm stuck in a wheelchair for at least 6-8 months and I might not ever possibly be able to walk correctly again, which basically ends my career as a bedside nurse. Now it is a huge PIA to take care of our 3 dogs, one of which is a Great Dane that towers over me in a wheelchair. I actually didn't think I could do it at first, but I did it. And I will have to make sacrifices financially to be able to take care of them while I'm not able to work, but that's what you do when you adopt a dog. If you're not willing to take care of them when the going gets tough, then don't get one in the first place.</div><div>And I get it when you say that some people don't think of their dogs as children so it's not hard for them to give them up when it's harder to take care of them. I just don't think you should get a dog if you feel that way.</div></div></span></div></span>

Jay&Marissa

Even though they fixed it, the search feature still sucks. And things change about vendors (ahem...*cough* my caterer *cough*)

Let people ask.

serlace

Good point Marissa - I give in - ask away!!! 

NathanandJordan

I flame (and bring it on) old knotties for getting onto the new knotties....we get it. You've been here, you've read all the older posts.  Good for you.  I don't have time to search through older posts for answers.  It's much easier for me to post a new thread to get answers.  But, b/c of all the posts I read about how "annoying" it is to read a "repost," I don't post.  I don't get answers.  I've never planned a wedding.  I don't know what I'm doing!  On top of planning a wedding, I work and go to school.  I don't have time to spend searching through all the posts.  If you don't want to post b/c you already did in a previous thread, fine.  Someone else will answer me.

ok, rant over

Myles+Tami

^ ITA! 

Flame those flaming the repeat posters. It's tired and unoriginal. Maybe they should look up the old posts and see that it was already flamed...

Buttercup509

Maybe they should look up the old posts and see that it was already flamed.

Haha. That's funny. I get both both sides of this argument. It does get old seeing the same thing over and over, but this is a wedding message board. Posters should be able to ask questions about wedding stuff.

bsn1752

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_flame-friday-22?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:d9b37118-145e-4dbe-977f-7be772e34b95Post:9caedb5f-d18a-40ed-8246-481da5547013">Re: Flame Free Friday</a>:
[QUOTE]I flame (and bring it on) old knotties for getting onto the new knotties....we get it. You've been here, you've read all the older posts.  Good for you.  I don't have time to search through older posts for answers.  It's much easier for me to post a new thread to get answers.  But, b/c of all the posts I read about how "annoying" it is to read a "repost," I don't post.  I don't get answers.  I've never planned a wedding.  I don't know what I'm doing!  On top of planning a wedding, I work and go to school.  I don't have time to spend searching through all the posts.  If you don't want to post b/c you already did in a previous thread, fine.  Someone else will answer me. ok, rant over :)
Posted by NathanandJordan[/QUOTE]

<div>That's a great point and when I started posting, I asked a ton of questions too!!  And I still do... you're right, I will help you answer questions if I can.</div><div>
</div><div>I do get annoyed though when people ask questions that can be found in less time on Google than it takes to get an answer on here... i.e. "What's the contact info or website for....."   sometimes, the contact info is hard to find (Like Becky Fowler) but other times, it's just a quick search in google.  :)   That's how I find the answer I'm giving the board!</div>

fallbride1109

I said the same thing when I started posting--if you don't want to read about DJ help for the one millionth time, then skip it.  I'm "old" and it still doesn't bother me.  The only time I get slightly annoyed is when there is a duplicate post on the same page.  It only takes a second of my life to recommend something to someone that could be really helpful.  I know others were so helpful to me when I was planning and I just want to return that favor.

Jay&Marissa

Stephie, if Mariah cannot be moderator anymore due to her no job (no idea if that is true), you should take the job

almoyo

Each time I bring a pet home, I am making a commitment to that animal to care for them. Very little about pets are convenient. My dog Penelope has lived with me while I was in college, back at my parents' when I needed to move home to pay off some bills, in a tiny garage apartment while I worked two jobs, in a duplex where I had to walk her every time she went out to potty, and now, finally in our own home with a wonderful yard. Somewhere in there, we adopted a brother for her. Believe me, it hasn't always been easy, and it certainly hasn't always been the most ideal or fair situation to my pets. I committed to keep them safe and healthy, and I have lived up to that commitment. We are now all in the "ideal" situation that I've always wanted for my pets, and I am so glad that I didn't give them away when they inconvenienced me. Soon, I'm sure I'll have children, but you can bet your a$$ I won't be farming my dogs off because they might get fur on the baby's things.

A commitment is a commitment. But then again, some of us will get divorces and abandon our biological children, so what I say really has no relevance.