I would like an objective opinion from some of the ladies on here...

skidog75

Ok, full disclosure: I'm a guy, lol.  I have never posted on here before.  I do so now because I am having serious issues regarding my sister's wedding.  So here is the condensed version (as much as I can).  February of 2011 my younger sister (9 years difference) got engaged.  Our parents are not what you would call reliable so I always told her I'd help when she got married.  Shortly after she said yes, she asked my wife to be her maid of honor.

My wife and her have never been close.  I knew my sister's friends were either a) financially unstable or b) not very reliable in general.  So, even though I had reservation's I told Tracy (my wife) to be Nena's (my sister) MOH.  Since last year we have given my sister and her fiance $1500 in cash.  She is (was) on her phone plan and we haven't made her pay since last February, that is roughly another $700.  My wife bought the dress and I rented my tuxedo.  My wife also threw her a shower and came out of pocket for about $300 for that.  My mother in law maid the shower favors and came down to St. Louis from Chicago to attend the shower.

The trouble started when my wife asked the other bridesmaids to bring two 2-liters of soda and a side dish to the shower.  Tracy took care of the rest.  This was apparently not very popular.  Also, prior to my sister's shower she requested that my wife tell her who was least helpful for the shower.  Turns out it was my sister's three oldest friends.  One didn't even get her a shower gift.  The same one who got married fairly recently and my sister got a shower gift for.  Well, turns out my sister didn't like to hear this very much.  She told my wife they clash too much (not saying my wife is 100% innocent in this, she was way to happy to tell my sister how crappy her friends had been despite me warning her not to) and that she would like my wife to step down as MOH 6 weeks before the wedding and just be a bridesmaid.   I lost it, said it was disrespectful and pulled both of us out of the wedding.  I know that was probably an overreaction but it hurt me that she would treat my wife so poorly.

I told her how much work my wife and mother-in law put into the shower and my sister's response was "I didn't ask her to do any of that".  Also, "she only wanted to throw me a fancy shower for herself, to make her look good".  Yes, my wife wanted to work all day and then come home for several weeks straight making hand made shower invitations and signs on her cricket to make herself look good.  Am I in the wrong here or is my sister?  As it stands now, we are not even going to the wedding and have had no contact for over a week.  I am hurt, angry and confused.  Please help...

baconsmom

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[QUOTE]Ok, full disclosure: I'm a guy, lol.  I have never posted on here before.  I do so now because I am having serious issues regarding my sister's wedding.  So here is the condensed version (as much as I can).  February of 2011 my younger sister (9 years difference) got engaged.  Our parents are not what you would call reliable so I always told her I'd help when she got married.  Shortly after she said yes, she asked my wife to be her maid of honor. My wife and her have never been close.  I knew my sister's friends were either a) financially unstable or b) not very reliable in general.  So, even though I had reservation's I told Tracy (my wife) to be Nena's (my sister) MOH.  Since last year we have given my sister and her fiance $1500 in cash.  She is (was) on her phone plan and we haven't made her pay since last February, that is roughly another $700.  My wife bought the dress and I rented my tuxedo.  My wife also threw her a shower and came out of pocket for about $300 for that.  My mother in law maid the shower favors and came down to St. Louis from Chicago to attend the shower. The trouble started when my wife asked the other bridesmaids to bring two 2-liters of soda and a side dish to the shower.  Tracy took care of the rest.  This was apparently not very popular.  Also, prior to my sister's shower she requested that my wife tell her who was least helpful for the shower.  Turns out it was my sister's three oldest friends.  One didn't even get her a shower gift.  The same one who got married fairly recently and my sister got a shower gift for.  Well, turns out my sister didn't like to hear this very much.  She told my wife they clash too much (not saying my wife is 100% innocent in this, she was way to happy to tell my sister how crappy her friends had been despite me warning her not to) and that she would like my wife to step down as MOH 6 weeks before the wedding and just be a bridesmaid.   I lost it, said it was disrespectful and pulled both of us out of the wedding.  I know that was probably an overreaction but it hurt me that she would treat my wife so poorly. I told her how much work my wife and mother-in law put into the shower and my sister's response was "I didn't ask her to do any of that".  Also, "she only wanted to throw me a fancy shower for herself, to make her look good".  Yes, my wife wanted to work all day and then come home for several weeks straight making hand made shower invitations and signs on her cricket to make herself look good.  Am I in the wrong here or is my sister?  As it stands now, we are not even going to the wedding and have had no contact for over a week.  I am hurt, angry and confused.  Please help...
Posted by skidog75[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>You all sound like such lovely people. Are all your relationships based on bartering favors and gifts? Or just your close ones? 

</div>

skidog75

I didn't barter for anything.  I never asked for anything back even after this situation happened.  I don't wish her a bad wedding or marriage.  I just thought she was disrespectful.  I was hoping to get serious responses.  Not just one-liners...

Wzz

regardless of who i might think is right or wrong, what is the reason you are asking? for validation or for advice on how to handle something specific?

i only ask because it's not going to change what has happened.

baconsmom

I'm saying you're all wrong. 

You foisted your wife on your sister.

Your sister expects her friends to repay her tit for tat after their weddings.

Your wife went all out for a not-close friend and expected unending gratitude.

Your sister fished for bad news, got it, and reacted like an idiot about it.

You went all "scorched earth" on your sister for being an idiot.

I'm saying none of you knows how to behave, and everyone's wrong. If someone grows up, maybe it'll get fixed, but I doubt it. 

skidog75

I am asking to see if I was correct to be offended.  Also for advice to make the situation less crappy...

skidog75

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[QUOTE]I'm saying you're all wrong.  You foisted your wife on your sister. Your sister expects her friends to repay her tit for tat after their weddings. Your wife went all out for a not-close friend and expected unending gratitude. Your sister fished for bad news, got it, and reacted like an idiot about it. You went all "scorched earth" on your sister for being an idiot. I'm saying none of you knows how to behave, and everyone's wrong. If someone grows up, maybe it'll get fixed, but I doubt it. 
Posted by baconsmom[/QUOTE]

I did not foist my sister, she begged my wife to do it.  My sister doesn't expect anything from her friends apparently because she is paying for her own bachelorette party bus and drinks for the bus and not asking for anything from her bridesmaids.  I agree my sister acted poorly.  My wife goes all out for everyone, that is how she is.  Even more so for my sister.  She didn't expect unending gratitude.  She would have liked a little respect and some gratitude though.  This is not a strictly bridezilla thing for my sister.  She is the youngest, the only girl and a child of divorce who has been spoiled (by myself included) for years and expects things rather than appreciates them.  You're right, I did go scorched earth.  I admit it.  I was just really upset.  Being a public forum, obvisously everyone is entitled to post/say what the like but you seem to be very reactionary and kind of nasty to people you have never met. 

baconsmom

Oh, don't worry: I'm "nasty" to people I've met, too. 

DG1

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[QUOTE]I'm saying you're all wrong.  You foisted your wife on your sister. Your sister expects her friends to repay her tit for tat after their weddings. Your wife went all out for a not-close friend and expected unending gratitude. Your sister fished for bad news, got it, and reacted like an idiot about it. You went all "scorched earth" on your sister for being an idiot. I'm saying none of you knows how to behave, and everyone's wrong. If someone grows up, maybe it'll get fixed, but I doubt it. 
Posted by baconsmom[/QUOTE]

You forgot the part where the wife actually gave the bad news the sister was fishing for.


I think you're right to be offended. But your wife should also be offended for being ordered to be a MOH, and I'm pretty sure there's something in here your sister should be offended about, too.

Mostly, though, you're just kindof dumb for giving and giving and giving (money, help, etc.) and then expecting something in return (even just gratitude) when you have clear evidence that you won't be getting it.

Dude. And plenty of people do all of that crap for parties for their own purposes. I do crap like that for my kids' birthdays, and believe me when I say they are way too young to even know it's happening, much less appreciate it. I like the creative outlet, and yes, I also like people to think I can put together a good party. Not saying your wife did this, but no one makes handmade invitations solely for the recipient's benefit. Especially now when there are so many other perfectly nice options available.

skidog75

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[QUOTE]Oh, don't worry: I'm "nasty" to people I've met, too. 
Posted by baconsmom[/QUOTE]

Ok.  Moving on...

skidog75

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I would like an objective opinion from some of the ladies on here... : You forgot the part where the wife actually gave the bad news the sister was fishing for. I think you're right to be offended. But your wife should also be offended for being ordered to be a MOH, and I'm pretty sure there's something in here your sister should be offended about, too. Mostly, though, you're just kindof dumb for giving and giving and giving (money, help, etc.) and then expecting something in return (even just gratitude) when you have clear evidence that you won't be getting it. Dude. And plenty of people do all of that crap for parties for their own purposes. I do crap like that for my kids' birthdays, and believe me when I say they are way too young to even know it's happening, much less appreciate it. I like the creative outlet, and yes, I also like people to think I can put together a good party. Not saying your wife did this, but no one makes handmade invitations solely for the recipient's benefit. Especially now when there are so many other perfectly nice options available.
Posted by DG1[/QUOTE]

Again, my wife was not ordered.  My sister begged.  Even though I thought it wasn't the best idea I told her to do it if she wanted to.  She wanted to give my sister a nice shower and wedding.  We (my sister and I) come from a very low income background.  I escaped from it.  My sister not so much.  Again, maybe my wife does get some kind of thrill out of doing these kinds of things but she is just the type person that always tries to make things nice for people.  I don't think getting booted from the MOH spot 6 weeks before the wedding was justified.  Also, my wife was willing to go along with it and be a bridesmaid.  I am the one who lost it.

*Barbie*

I think you're all morons.

you and your wife for financially supporting your sister.
your sister for asking your wife to be MOH, and your wife for accepting.
your wife expecting anything from your sister or her friends
your wife for reporting on who dropped the ball
your sister for asking about all of that
your sister for asking your wife to be "downgraded" to a BM ( seriously, it's a title, who TF cares?)
the two of you for being all butthurt and dropping out of the wedding.

sure your sister was an ass, but so were you and your wife. it sounds like your sister is a spoiled brat who expects people to cater to her every want and need, and you guys played right into it, expecting some sort of grand accolades.

you dug your grave, now you have to lie in it. you can apologize and such, but don't expect anything in return. i doubt your sister will make the first move to do so.

skidog75

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[QUOTE]I think you're all morons. you and your wife for financially supporting your sister. your sister for asking your wife to be MOH, and your wife for accepting. your wife expecting anything from your sister or her friends your wife for reporting on who dropped the ball your sister for asking about all of that your sister for asking your wife to be "downgraded" to a BM ( seriously, it's a title, who TF cares?) the two of you for being all butthurt and dropping out of the wedding. sure your sister was an ass, but so were you and your wife. it sounds like your sister is a spoiled brat who expects people to cater to her every want and need, and you guys played right into it, expecting some sort of grand accolades. you dug your grave, now you have to lie in it. you can apologize and such, but don't expect anything in return. i doubt your sister will make the first move to do so.
Posted by *Barbie*[/QUOTE]

I don't know what grand accolades we were looking for.  My only issue was her "firing" her as MOH after the shower and 6 weeks before the wedding.  It seemed to me like she got what she needed from my wife and was then ready to throw her to the back of the bus.  I am glad for the, shall we say "brutal honesty' though.  I guess I have more blame in this than I originally thought.

hmonkey

[QUOTE]I don't know what grand accolades we were looking for.  My only issue was her "firing" her as MOH after the shower and 6 weeks before the wedding.  It seemed to me like she got what she needed from my wife and was then ready to throw her to the back of the bus.  I am glad for the, shall we say "brutal honesty' though.  I guess I have more blame in this than I originally thought.
Posted by skidog75[/QUOTE]

1) it's not the only issue.  otherwise, your original post would be much shorter.  as it is, you put in all that detail so that we would be all impressed that you and tracy did so much for nena, and nena is an ungrateful prat.

2) you have inserted yourself into the situation and have not made it better -- from telling tracy to be nena's moh (really, dude?) to lording the phone plan over her head (what does that have to do with this?) to inserting yourself into nena's issues with the shower.

do you want advice on how to make the relationship better?  because the best thing would be to set some boundaries -- mutually agreed upon by tracy -- and to cut nena off when she crosses them.

skidog75

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[QUOTE]1) it's not the only issue.  otherwise, your original post would be much shorter.  as it is, you put in all that detail so that we would be all impressed that you and tracy did so much for nena, and nena is an ungrateful prat. 2) you have inserted yourself into the situation and have not made it better -- from telling tracy to be nena's moh (really, dude?) to lording the phone plan over her head (what does that have to do with this?) to inserting yourself into nena's issues with the shower. do you want advice on how to make the relationship better?  because the best thing would be to set some boundaries -- mutually agreed upon by tracy -- and to cut nena off when she crosses them.
Posted by hmonkey[/QUOTE]

I apologize.  I thought full disclosure was the best way to go.  Would the reaction be different if all I posted was that my sister asked my sister not to be the MOH 6 weeks prior to the wedding?  Again, I did not tell her to be the MOH.  My sister begged her to be and my wife asked if she should do it.  My response was that even though I didn't think it was the best idea, if she wanted to do it to go ahead and do it.  I thought I was very clear on this point.  Apparently I have not done a very good job.

**O-Face**

I think the best is to pick up and move on.  And understand that people are who they are...and you cannot make them grateful...

redheadfsu

The thing is that what you & your wife did were gifts. While everyone didn't act appropriately, it was very wrong of your sister to kick your wife out - that is a relationship ending move. However, she is your sister so I would let things cool down and try to mend the relationship after emotions calm down.

Wzz

"I think you're right to be offended. But your wife should also be offended for being ordered to be a MOH, and I'm pretty sure there's something in here your sister should be offended about, too.

Mostly, though, you're just kindof dumb for giving and giving and giving (money, help, etc.) and then expecting something in return (even just gratitude) when you have clear evidence that you won't be getting it. "


I agree with DG on all of this.

L_Woods

There are a lot of people in this scenario that need how to use the word "no." It really saves on a lot of the drama.

skidog75

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[QUOTE]The thing is that what you & your wife did were gifts. While everyone didn't act appropriately, it was very wrong of your sister to kick your wife out - that is a relationship ending move. However, she is your sister so I would let things cool down and try to mend the relationship after emotions calm down.
Posted by redheadfsu[/QUOTE]

Thank you, this was a great response.  Not the flaming I've seen so far.  I appreciate it.

skidog75

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[QUOTE]"I think you're right to be offended. But your wife should also be offended for being ordered to be a MOH, and I'm pretty sure there's something in here your sister should be offended about, too. Mostly, though, you're just kindof dumb for giving and giving and giving (money, help, etc.) and then expecting something in return (even just gratitude) when you have clear evidence that you won't be getting it. " I agree with DG on all of this.
Posted by Wzz[/QUOTE]

Again, my was not ordered to do anything and for the life of me I can't see where any of you are getting that from.

skidog75

Also, I realize all of it was a gift and even after things blew up I never once asked for anything back.  I wouldn't do that...

hmonkey

[QUOTE]Ok, full disclosure: I'm a guy, lol.  I have never posted on here before.  I do so now because I am having serious issues regarding my sister's wedding.  So here is the condensed version (as much as I can).  February of 2011 my younger sister (9 years difference) got engaged.  Our parents are not what you would call reliable so I always told her I'd help when she got married.  Shortly after she said yes, she asked my wife to be her maid of honor. My wife and her have never been close.  I knew my sister's friends were either a) financially unstable or b) not very reliable in general.  So, even though I had reservation's<strong> I told Tracy (my wife) to be Nena's (my sister) MOH. 
</strong>Posted by skidog75[/QUOTE]

from here.

aguysview

What does you paying her phone bill have to do with anything. this is all on you, you should not act like your sisters father.

*Barbie*

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[QUOTE] <strong>So, even though I had reservation's I told Tracy (my wife) to be Nena's (my sister) MOH. </strong> Posted by skidog75[/QUOTE]

that's where they are getting it.

redheadfsu

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[QUOTE]Also, I realize all of it was a gift and even after things blew up I never once asked for anything back.  I wouldn't do that...
Posted by skidog75[/QUOTE]

But I think the point you are missing is that she is still your sister. Instead of trying to bash her, just let the dust settle (I get that everyone is hurt and I can understand that) and then try to reestablish the relationship at a later date.

skidog75

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[QUOTE]In Response to I would like an objective opinion from some of the ladies on here... : that's where they are getting it.
Posted by *Barbie*[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I left out the if she wanted to part in my initial post but have (several times in fact) corrected that omission...

skidog75

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[QUOTE]What does you paying her phone bill have to do with anything. this is all on you, you should not act like your sisters father.
Posted by aguysview[/QUOTE]

You're right, I have acted like her father because of our parents lack of paternal instincts and ability to do things for her.  The phone bill part was just something to illustrate us helping out with her paying for the wedding in any way possible.  My doing so has proven to be pretty unpopular on this board.

skidog75

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I would like an objective opinion from some of the ladies on here... : But I think the point you are missing is that she is still your sister. Instead of trying to bash her, just let the dust settle (I get that everyone is hurt and I can understand that) and then try to reestablish the relationship at a later date.
Posted by redheadfsu[/QUOTE]

I get that totally.  I also get that my wife is who I live with and see every day.  Who I have made a life with.  I left out the part where we can't ever have kids of our own.  Where we decided to do for my sister as a sort of substitution.  I don't wish my sister a bad wedding, a bad marriage or a bad life.  I love her very much.  This is just the straw that broke the camel's back on a long list of less than great behavior from her that I haven't shared here. 

*Barbie*

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I would like an objective opinion from some of the ladies on here... : Sorry, I left out the if she wanted to part in my initial post but have (several times in fact) corrected that omission...
Posted by skidog75[/QUOTE]

we already read your wall of text, and provided the solicited input.  don't expect everyone to do more than skim your multiple follow-up posts on "what you really meant".

aguysview

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_i-would-like-an-objective-opinion-from-some-of-the-ladies-on-here?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:6aa82f9e-1772-4cab-965d-3c619e74e08dPost:56da9070-eca4-46d0-80d5-40a1d7877006">Re: I would like an objective opinion from some of the ladies on here...</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I would like an objective opinion from some of the ladies on here... : You're right, I have acted like her father because of our parents lack of paternal instincts and ability to do things for her.  The phone bill part was just something to illustrate us helping out with her paying for the wedding in any way possible.  My doing so has proven to be pretty unpopular on this board.
Posted by skidog75[/QUOTE]



You both have the same parents correct?
If you turned out ok inspire of them give her the same chance. Stop taking care of her and maybe she won't act like the spoiled brat that she sounds like.