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Creighton question :)
You Creighton girls are going to get sick of me, lol. I have talked to my instructor about this a little, and will talk to my Creighton doctor when I see her in a couple weeks, but I want to know your perspective/experience/advice on this:
I don't feel like I'm ever "post-peak" in terms of the "rules." Because I have easily 3-4 "peaks" in a cycle, I can't ever feel confident saying "okay, I already ovulated" since I never feel more "ovulatory" about one peak over another. I also don't have consistent dryness after peak, but am not using yellow stickers yet. I started my period today, for example, and had what 8C (tacky cloudy, right?) yesterday. Honestly, I'm not convinced I actually ovulated in this cycle, since I never have more than one day of peak-type mucus in a row. I usually get through the entire count of three before I "peak" again. My chart has been a multi-peak chart 2 cycles in a row now.
Has anyone ever experienced this? What kind of advice do you have? How can I know when it's okay to follow post-peak rules (like, all day instead of end of day only, etc)? I just like to hear the feedback of others because I think more exposure helps me absorb the information better. Hearing 3 people tell me the same thing just makes it sink in, you know? The wedding is coming up, and I'm getting a little nervous about actually incorporating the rules in a practical sense!
I don't feel like I'm ever "post-peak" in terms of the "rules." Because I have easily 3-4 "peaks" in a cycle, I can't ever feel confident saying "okay, I already ovulated" since I never feel more "ovulatory" about one peak over another. I also don't have consistent dryness after peak, but am not using yellow stickers yet. I started my period today, for example, and had what 8C (tacky cloudy, right?) yesterday. Honestly, I'm not convinced I actually ovulated in this cycle, since I never have more than one day of peak-type mucus in a row. I usually get through the entire count of three before I "peak" again. My chart has been a multi-peak chart 2 cycles in a row now.
Has anyone ever experienced this? What kind of advice do you have? How can I know when it's okay to follow post-peak rules (like, all day instead of end of day only, etc)? I just like to hear the feedback of others because I think more exposure helps me absorb the information better. Hearing 3 people tell me the same thing just makes it sink in, you know? The wedding is coming up, and I'm getting a little nervous about actually incorporating the rules in a practical sense!
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Re: Creighton question :)
[QUOTE] Try a couple things: no dryer sheets, different detergent, and <strong>keeping the room completely black when you sleep (no computer lights, no outdoor lighting at all). </strong>
Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]
(You know I have to jump in on any NFP discussion ;P) Just wanted to say (re: the bolded) this is a really neat thing that I learned about during my teacher training. Research has shown that having too much (any) light while you're sleeping can raise your estrogen levels which can cause extra mucus and perhaps some other issues, too. AND, if you can't keep the lights down, you can get a sleep-mask instead. It really just needs to be your eyes that are in complete darkness. I know I've been far more conscious of our bedroom lighling since learning this.
[QUOTE]It sounds like you have the "extra" cm and will be using yellow stickers soon. First, its quite possible to have peak type mucous immediately before the period. Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]
I don't want to threadjack, but I have a quick question about this part. If you have peak type CM right before your period, you would not consider that to be fertile mucus, right? Like, you would still consider yourself in phase 3, headed for phase 1? Or, if you are TTA, would you have to abstain if you see this?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Creighton question :) : I don't want to threadjack, but I have a quick question about this part. If you have peak type CM right before your period, you would not consider that to be fertile mucus, right? Like, you would still consider yourself in phase 3, headed for phase 1? Or, if you are TTA, would you have to abstain if you see this?
Posted by emwalsh1[/QUOTE]
If you are sure that you already ovulated then you would still consider yourself to be in phase 3 if you notice peak type CM right before your period. I remember reading in TCOYF that when the lining of your uterus first starts to shed it can appear kind of watery and be mistaken for peak CM before your period starts.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Creighton question :) : If you are sure that you already ovulated then you would still consider yourself to be in phase 3 if you notice peak type CM right before your period. I remember reading in TCOYF that when the lining of your uterus first starts to shed it can appear kind of watery and be mistaken for peak CM before your period starts.
Posted by Tami87[/QUOTE]
<div>This is NOT creighton rules. Creighton does not use the term "phase 3".</div><div><div>
</div><div>If one is avoiding pregnancy and they observe peak type mucous, they abstain, no matter where it is in the cycle. </div></div><div>
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Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]
This is one of the things that I do not understand about Creighton. <div>Doesn't Creighton have "rules" for saying when you've ovulated? (CM buildup, then a certain number of days of peak CM or something?) </div><div>Other than a second egg being released (within 24 hours) of the first, you CANNOT ovulate more than once in a cycle. So once you know you've ovulated, then why do you care what kind of CM you see? If you're TTA, then you're not going to get pregnant! </div><div>
</div><div>That was my main question, but side-tracking a bit more-- </div><div>The only reason I can think of for why Creighton would not have a "phase 3" type designation would be b/c the method itself cannot PROVE with 100% certainty that you have ovulated. If it is possible to have CM buildup and NOT have ovulated...then why wouldn't everyone track their temps to know for *sure* when they ovulated? </div><div>
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Creighton question :) : This is NOT creighton rules. Creighton does not use the term "phase 3". If one is avoiding pregnancy and they observe peak type mucous, they abstain, no matter where it is in the cycle.
Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]
Thank you for clarifying. I realize that the advice I gave is based off TCOYF and sympto-thermal method. Since the person who asked the question said something about phase 3 I assumed that it was a general NFP question instead of specifically Creighton, but considering this is a Creighton thread I should have been more clear.