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Listening to Obama?

Because I sure am. Telling kids to stay in school...the nerve.
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    I wish! I work for a religious organization, and since everyone here loathes Obama...we are not allowed to turn on the TV.  Hopefully I can find it later on.
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    Well!  I, for one, am glad I live up here in Canada where my politicians don't care about education and the future of my population!Wait.  What?

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    I work for a Christian organization too, and we have all of our TV's and computers on it!
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    I work for a religious organizationwhich one? why do they hate him?
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    I'll have to catch it later on too.  I know you asked the question in an earlier post about why some people are up in arms... no one said the "R" word, but I think some of it boils down to overt racism.  No, I don't think it's a cop-out either.  I think there are some undertones of racism in a lot of the opposition to Obama.  I do respect legitimate policy opposition - but this?  There are really no words.
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    How dare he try to brainwash/influence my child with motivational and encouraging words about making something of themselves.  We'll have none of that sh*t in my house, Buddy.

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    I am only because you just reminded me.  






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    I read the speech online this morning and I read a lot of comments that people left on the website, and I was appalled.  I can't believe that people are getting so up in arms over this speech. 
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    Dukey, it's obviously more than the speech content.  It's who's giving the speech. 
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    I work as a secretary in a little Catholic parish.Everyone here is of the "Obama kills babies" mentality.  Election season was FAN-freakin'-tastic, listening to everyone else (it's a relatively small office, but still) talkabout how Obama is a facist abortion-lover and that Biden is "not a REAL Catholic."Plus, I don't have a TV (or headphones) in my office.  So I'll have to find it later on.  But judging by what I've heard so far, it's pretty much what I had figured it would be, and none of the "socialist propaganda" that was the basis of so many rumors flying around.
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    Racism and dislike of change for sure Cacoffer (which are also one in the same a lot of the time)... I wonder how much is serious hatred of black people and how much is just ridiculous dicomfort with anything they haven't experienced before (a black leader).
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    I teach at a Lutheran high school. We aren't watching it. It was not explained why.
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    While he's def. not my favorite person, I don't see any harm in listening to his speech or letting your children listen. I'll probably watch the DVR version when I have time.
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    People kept saying that he's sharing his opinion on things during this time. If his opinion is that you stay in school and take care of yourself, and that isn't an opinion you support, you shouldn't be parenting. 
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    I think Cacoffer is dead-on right here. Unfortunately. Why anyone would NOT want their child to listen to someone encouraging them to stay in school, try their hardest, and excel in life is absolutely beyond me, no matter what the speaker's politics.
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    That kind of language is not allowed in my house. My daughter is going to grow up to be a crackwhore whether she likes it or not.
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    I'm watching. It's a nice speech.
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    If his opinion is that you stay in school and take care of yourself, and that isn't an opinion you support, you shouldn't be parenting. 100%
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    Yeah, I mean there are a lot of legitimate criticisms of Obama, but so much of the stuff dominating the news is just ridiculous. It's pretty disheartening to see the some of the ugliness directed towards him.
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    I'm a teacher too and I have not heard anyone who is against his speech. The problem here is that the teacher worksheets for students posted on the government's website (ed dot gov) have leading questions like:  How are you going to help the president with the challenges of your generation?
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    Does anyone know what time it starts? I'm assuming it'll be on every major news channel.
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    Kristen, isn't that a valid question regardless of who is president?  It's not like they're asking how the kids are going to help the democrats or Obama personally.In Canada, voter apathy in those newly eligible to vote is at all time highs.  They aren't voting because they don't see how it'll make a difference.  Perhaps it isn't a bad thing to get kids started thinking about the political process sooner. 

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    If his opinion is that you stay in school and take care of yourself, and that isn't an opinion you support, you shouldn't be parenting. Ditto!As a non-Obama fan, I'm so embarrassed this was even something to debate.  






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    "The problem here is that the teacher worksheets for students posted on the government's website (ed dot gov) have leading questions like: How are you going to help the president with the challenges of your generation?"Kristin - that's not a leading question.  A leading question would be something like: Are you going to help the president with the challenges of your generation by advocating against drug use?  Or something of the like.  It suggests the answer in the form of the question.And I still don't see why the question you referenced poses a problem.  The politics of the challenges are left unstated so the statement should raise no controversy.  If the controversy is that the question assumes that a child wants to help the president, I fail to see the problem with that.  There should be no controversy in asking children if they'll help the president, whoever the president may be, by working to address challenges. Children should be encouraged to help whoever the president may be in their own way - I think that builds respect for the office of the president, regardless of who's sitting in it.
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    He could be holding a mandatory 20-minute speech about the benefits of socialism, and if that affects your child at all then you FAIL as a parent. Stop looking for things to complain about and if he says something you don't agree with, address it with your kids like you should be doing anyway. Preventing them from exposure does more harm than talking through issues. And "be cool, stay in school." is NOT even an issue! Sorry, that wasn't to anyone here. I'm just sick and fuckingtired of this BS argument. You'd think damn Harry Potter is speaking today, taking recruits for Hogwarts. WTF?
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    Since the inauguration it's just seemed to me that the losing party has been so far beyond bitter that they're shooting themselves in the foot. They've been against absolutely everything. I figured okay, republican vs democrat, yeah disagreements are expected. But this whole mess tells me it's not that. I'm really starting to believe people are just pissed that they didn't win. Other presidents have spoken at schools WITH political overtones in their speeches (sometimes not even overtures, outright statements were made), so what is the deal with this one? I said before the election that I didn't think this country would elect a black man, and I was so thrilled when we did. I thought it showed how far we've come. Think again, I guess.
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    I agree with Bec.If your child brings home opinions you disagree with, then explain your feelings, and why you disagree with it, and let them form their own opinions.Not being a parent myself (and possibly speaking out of turn), I think it's ridiculous when people expect the government/media/the rest of the world to censor itself to their views so as not to inflict other opinions on their children.
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    Am I nuts, or was there a huge tirade by betrothed here a second ago? I wish everyone would stop being so polarized. It's progressively gotten worse, and each new party elected receives backlash from the other party. Conservatives are doing it now for the crap they received from liberals for 8 years, and the liberals threw crap in rebuttal for the crap they received during the Clinton years, etc. etc. The respect and kindness that should be afforded not only to the Presidential Office but also to each other is becoming completely lost. Agree or don't agree with him, but stop attacking a fuckingspeech to kids about school. Again, if it affects your child to the point that he or she decides to quit school and live off the government then you have failed as a parent. Take care of yourself and your own, and no matter what you believe one speech won't change you or your children.
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    Bec, you are nuts, but that's another story.Yes there was a post that is now missing.
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    I think it's ridiculous when people expect the government/media/the rest of the world to censor itself to their views so as not to inflict other opinions on their children.I agree 100%.
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